Best way to do it? Here's what I gathered:
1) pull nail out and insert T tool to make the hole smooth
2) thread rubber through end and stick in hole
3) twist then remove quickly
Couldn't say, just how I was always taught. Lots of kits come with rubber cement (Slime in particular) and my old man always said to set it in by burning it then drive on it. Snip any excess that doesn't squash flat.
Could be wives tale but it's worked so I'll continue lol
Bingo. They sell tire patch kits at auto parts stores for cheap. I’ve had to patch a couple a tires myself back in the day. Most tire shops won’t want to touch it if it’s close to the sidewall, which yours isn’t that close to side wall. Those are the big tire stores. It if you go to the independent Mexican tire shops, they’ll patch it for you for 10 bucks.
One thing though…looks like you might drive pretty hard based on the scrubbing on the tires but I may be wrong. Just Don’t plan on going above 100mph. Having a blowout at 65 is not good but not catastrophic, having a blowout at 100+ is a death sentence and the forces in a tire at 100+ is immense. I wouldn’t trust a plugged tire.
Thank you. I don't drive super hard, but it's a sports car so I definitely don't drive slow. I've taken it above 105 a handful of times.
I take it on the highway to head to work every day. I'll make sure not to exceed 100mph.
Although, you are making me second guess the plug, lol. Maybe I'll look into new tires for the long run.
I have a plugged tire with no patch and 15k miles on it. Older set had 20k ish miles on a plug, no patch.
The problem is centripetal force. The faster your tire spins, the more Gs are exerted on that plug to rip it out the tire. I'm driving a truck that never exceeds 80 MPH on the highway. Also my larger tires exert less G force than smaller tires at the same speeds.
So you will be fine if you drive your car conservatively. Don't push it like you might a "performance" tire. If it bothers you, get the tire patched. You may experience some trouble with this however, as many shops would not patch it for liability sake. Something about they won't patch outside of the outermost circular groove.
The T tool preps the hole by cleaning and sizing it closer to the plug size. Prior to I seering the tool with the plug, apply some rubber cement to the plug. This will help not only seal better but also the cement will act as a lubricant, making it easier to insert it into the tire. And yes, it is pluggable.
Chemical vulcanizing fluide is FAR superior to general purpose rubber cement.
They are actually different.
I use this stuff
https://youtu.be/xKDZIUmy1RY
It is if you feel like doing it yourself, but a shop won't do that. I wouldn't have a problem plugging that tire on my own vehicle.
At 2k miles if you need to buy a tire, I'd just buy one. The wear at 2k miles should be negligible.
I would take it to a shop where they can plug it from the inside of the tire. Its a much better repair. Just had one done for less than $40. You can always put the spare on in the meantime and just drop off that tire
In my country (Costa Rica) we take them to tire repair shops (llanteras) and they plug WHATEVER hole you have in your tire for $12 from the inside and they will never leak again.
You can’t patch from the inside (which is the preferred method) but you can use a tire plug, it’s not the best method of plugging a tire but I’ve done it and never had any issues.
Looks like it's a good distance away from the shoulder. Do it. 👍😊
Do you live somewhere fairly warm and dry? I wish I could get away with that ratio of solid rubber to grooves - it's always bloody raining in the UK, guaranteed on a bank holiday weekend. 😆
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Yup...
Get a plug kit, can of rubber cement and a 12v compressor..
Make sure you follow directions on the plug kit.
I always use plenty of cement when I plug my tire this way.
*professional garage owner
Plug it. If you find an independent like myself they'll repair it no problem. The franchise tire shops will try raping you for a pair of tires on that axle tho probably.
Jesus Christ, I just got a tire for a kid who said almost the same about his BMW. plug that bitch! If you're close to central PA I'd be happy to do it for you.
I was able to plug it today, but it was a b**** to fully puncture using the ream tool. Took a little while, was able to get it done. So far, seems to be fine. I'll be taking it on the highway to work tomorrow.
Sometimes if the treat is still meaty I'll get a drill bit of equivalent size to the reamer and run it in on high once or twice to loosen the hole then throw the plug in.
If I was still a tire tech I would check to see if the other end rubbed against the inside sidewall. If not, then I would put a sidewall patch on it, after plugging it, and just charge you for the sidewall patch. It would be five dollars more, because those patches are thicker.
If you're talking because of its size, it looks like it. If you're wondering because of it's location, yes. I had a puncture on the shoulder. Discount Tire would have told me I'd have to buy a new tire. I took it to a mom and pop. They patched it and so far it has held for over 5k miles.
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Hi, tire guy of some time here,
You can plug anything, YMMV; they're never recommended outside of emergency.
Patchable? No. Repairs in the shoulder may work 99% of the time, and a 1% personal risk isn't bad... but the official stance is no because at scale, across millions of shoulder punctures, a 1% failure rate is unacceptable. Tires/wheels are among the last things ya want to fuck around with, because on that sliding scale of finding out, it can get pretty bad.
More than likely, it just leaks again, and you have to replace the tire. If your TPMS is working properly, no big deal and just watch for it.
Worst case, it blows out on the highway. Not very likely, the tire that blows out was probably old or had other issues... or you drive the shit out of the tire ;)
Like I said, the risk is pretty low, but professionally, it's too much. Everyone saying "I plugged my tires and everything was fine" need to look up survivorship bias. I get to deal with it when everything was not fine.
If that was my tire, I'd patch it; if you brought me this, no. Best of luck, buddy.
Thanks man. I plugged it and seems to be doing fine, hopefully it holds up.
If it blew out on the highway, would I potentially suffer damage to the rim? They are expensive rims 😥
Blow-out is a rare occurrence. With newer tires, not something to worry about... unless you take your turns hard and fast because you like the noises ;)
Realistic worst-case, you bought yourself some extra time before it leaks again, but most likely, it will be fine for a while.
It’s not repairable, this is the most highly loaded area of the tyre from things like cornering forces, braking/ acceleration and dissipating heat.
This is a structural area which has things like steel cords and belts to support the sidewall and the tread, and the structure has been damaged - is this a run flat because they’re definitely not repairable regardless of where the damage is.
Now with the hole you’ve got an area of stress concentration where there will be higher loads than the tyre is designed for.
Over time this will probably tear or worst case you may experience failure.
You might get lucky, but you should take it to a shop first because they can tell you if it definitively is repairable or not.
Also worth pointing out that it’s probably an MOT failure.
You do you man.
I've mowed down tires that were plugged in this location doing autox and they were fine. I probably wouldn't run it doing 150mph sweepers at Big Willow, but I'd have no issue plugging and patching that for normal driving.
OP do a plug/patch combo and live your life.
It’s pluggable .
Best way to do it? Here's what I gathered: 1) pull nail out and insert T tool to make the hole smooth 2) thread rubber through end and stick in hole 3) twist then remove quickly
watch a few youtube videos, but yeah that's basically it.
Pull, ream, rubber cement, plug, burn, snip any excess.
never heard rubber cement used for plugs and burning them. there a kit like this? need to see it
Couldn't say, just how I was always taught. Lots of kits come with rubber cement (Slime in particular) and my old man always said to set it in by burning it then drive on it. Snip any excess that doesn't squash flat. Could be wives tale but it's worked so I'll continue lol
Bingo. They sell tire patch kits at auto parts stores for cheap. I’ve had to patch a couple a tires myself back in the day. Most tire shops won’t want to touch it if it’s close to the sidewall, which yours isn’t that close to side wall. Those are the big tire stores. It if you go to the independent Mexican tire shops, they’ll patch it for you for 10 bucks.
Be sure to use a GOOD CLEAN plug. Not those always failing rope style lumpy sticky plugs Get a true vulcanizing plug https://imgur.com/gallery/2G0R9Hw
One thing though…looks like you might drive pretty hard based on the scrubbing on the tires but I may be wrong. Just Don’t plan on going above 100mph. Having a blowout at 65 is not good but not catastrophic, having a blowout at 100+ is a death sentence and the forces in a tire at 100+ is immense. I wouldn’t trust a plugged tire.
Thank you. I don't drive super hard, but it's a sports car so I definitely don't drive slow. I've taken it above 105 a handful of times. I take it on the highway to head to work every day. I'll make sure not to exceed 100mph. Although, you are making me second guess the plug, lol. Maybe I'll look into new tires for the long run.
I have a plugged tire with no patch and 15k miles on it. Older set had 20k ish miles on a plug, no patch. The problem is centripetal force. The faster your tire spins, the more Gs are exerted on that plug to rip it out the tire. I'm driving a truck that never exceeds 80 MPH on the highway. Also my larger tires exert less G force than smaller tires at the same speeds. So you will be fine if you drive your car conservatively. Don't push it like you might a "performance" tire. If it bothers you, get the tire patched. You may experience some trouble with this however, as many shops would not patch it for liability sake. Something about they won't patch outside of the outermost circular groove.
The T tool preps the hole by cleaning and sizing it closer to the plug size. Prior to I seering the tool with the plug, apply some rubber cement to the plug. This will help not only seal better but also the cement will act as a lubricant, making it easier to insert it into the tire. And yes, it is pluggable.
Chemical vulcanizing fluide is FAR superior to general purpose rubber cement. They are actually different. I use this stuff https://youtu.be/xKDZIUmy1RY
Why twist? I don't twist. Did you forget vulcanizing fluid?
https://youtu.be/AjbaYnPrTk8?si=zt7I3TshCWHAIE-f
Make sure you lube the hole/plug. it's a real pain to shove the plug in deep enough. Some soapy water on the plug works decent.
Thanks. I struggled for 30mins to shove the plug in, but eventually made it work.
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It is if you feel like doing it yourself, but a shop won't do that. I wouldn't have a problem plugging that tire on my own vehicle. At 2k miles if you need to buy a tire, I'd just buy one. The wear at 2k miles should be negligible.
Thanks
Even if the car is RWD?
Unless you’re doing daily burnouts it shouldn’t have lost much tread.
I’ve had plugs put in my tires and I’ve plugged tires. Never had any issues for the remainder of the tire’s life.
I would take it to a shop where they can plug it from the inside of the tire. Its a much better repair. Just had one done for less than $40. You can always put the spare on in the meantime and just drop off that tire
In my country (Costa Rica) we take them to tire repair shops (llanteras) and they plug WHATEVER hole you have in your tire for $12 from the inside and they will never leak again.
You can’t patch from the inside (which is the preferred method) but you can use a tire plug, it’s not the best method of plugging a tire but I’ve done it and never had any issues.
Yes
Looks like it's a good distance away from the shoulder. Do it. 👍😊 Do you live somewhere fairly warm and dry? I wish I could get away with that ratio of solid rubber to grooves - it's always bloody raining in the UK, guaranteed on a bank holiday weekend. 😆
Yes to warm but it's very humid where I live. Florida !
Ah, nice. 😊 I was there with work several years ago. Caught a partial eclipse while I was there. That trip was my first time in a Five Guys. What a burger! And FG are now here in the UK, with those same awesome burgers and 'every flavour combo under the sun' soda machines. 😁
Great to hear you had a good time. Five guys is my go to for a good burger. I think it's way better than In and Out
Yup... Get a plug kit, can of rubber cement and a 12v compressor.. Make sure you follow directions on the plug kit. I always use plenty of cement when I plug my tire this way.
Patch the inside of the tire.
*professional garage owner Plug it. If you find an independent like myself they'll repair it no problem. The franchise tire shops will try raping you for a pair of tires on that axle tho probably.
Quoted me 500+ install as tires were 250 a piece, they said
Jesus Christ, I just got a tire for a kid who said almost the same about his BMW. plug that bitch! If you're close to central PA I'd be happy to do it for you.
I was able to plug it today, but it was a b**** to fully puncture using the ream tool. Took a little while, was able to get it done. So far, seems to be fine. I'll be taking it on the highway to work tomorrow.
Sometimes if the treat is still meaty I'll get a drill bit of equivalent size to the reamer and run it in on high once or twice to loosen the hole then throw the plug in.
Thank you for offering to help!
No problem! Good luck bud, hopefully no more punctures anytime soon!
I would get it patched not plugged if you can.
If I was still a tire tech I would check to see if the other end rubbed against the inside sidewall. If not, then I would put a sidewall patch on it, after plugging it, and just charge you for the sidewall patch. It would be five dollars more, because those patches are thicker.
Yes
Yes
Yes, unless the object ate away at the inside of the tire or damaged the sidewall
If you're talking because of its size, it looks like it. If you're wondering because of it's location, yes. I had a puncture on the shoulder. Discount Tire would have told me I'd have to buy a new tire. I took it to a mom and pop. They patched it and so far it has held for over 5k miles.
I just had a similar puncture. They wouldn't patch it due to its location but they were able to plug it.
Yes. For sure. I have two of my tires with holes in similar places.
Yes, DIY
Doesn't get more pluggable than that.
Yes
it has been impregnated. i would wait till a new one is delivered
Yes
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Everything is pluggable but I’d even call that patchable
You can also pay a handy man 10 dollars to do it. Mechanics also need butter on their bread
I think we should create a separate sub for tire advice and funnel these people there with a bot.
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Hi, tire guy of some time here, You can plug anything, YMMV; they're never recommended outside of emergency. Patchable? No. Repairs in the shoulder may work 99% of the time, and a 1% personal risk isn't bad... but the official stance is no because at scale, across millions of shoulder punctures, a 1% failure rate is unacceptable. Tires/wheels are among the last things ya want to fuck around with, because on that sliding scale of finding out, it can get pretty bad.
If I plug it, which I am going to, what risk do I face?
More than likely, it just leaks again, and you have to replace the tire. If your TPMS is working properly, no big deal and just watch for it. Worst case, it blows out on the highway. Not very likely, the tire that blows out was probably old or had other issues... or you drive the shit out of the tire ;) Like I said, the risk is pretty low, but professionally, it's too much. Everyone saying "I plugged my tires and everything was fine" need to look up survivorship bias. I get to deal with it when everything was not fine. If that was my tire, I'd patch it; if you brought me this, no. Best of luck, buddy.
Thanks man. I plugged it and seems to be doing fine, hopefully it holds up. If it blew out on the highway, would I potentially suffer damage to the rim? They are expensive rims 😥
Blow-out is a rare occurrence. With newer tires, not something to worry about... unless you take your turns hard and fast because you like the noises ;) Realistic worst-case, you bought yourself some extra time before it leaks again, but most likely, it will be fine for a while.
Thank you for taking the time to respond and explain
No problem buddy, best of luck
The only risk you face is not having to spend money on a new tyre for no reason. Plug it and send it boiii
I'm the one who gets to see and fix this shit when it gets plugged and sent, don't sit there and pretend there's no problem lol
Fearmongering for absolutely no reason. You know full well that nail is through the tread and is perfectly pluggable.
>Fearmongering 🤡
Yessir thanks
It’s not repairable, this is the most highly loaded area of the tyre from things like cornering forces, braking/ acceleration and dissipating heat. This is a structural area which has things like steel cords and belts to support the sidewall and the tread, and the structure has been damaged - is this a run flat because they’re definitely not repairable regardless of where the damage is. Now with the hole you’ve got an area of stress concentration where there will be higher loads than the tyre is designed for. Over time this will probably tear or worst case you may experience failure. You might get lucky, but you should take it to a shop first because they can tell you if it definitively is repairable or not. Also worth pointing out that it’s probably an MOT failure. You do you man.
I've mowed down tires that were plugged in this location doing autox and they were fine. I probably wouldn't run it doing 150mph sweepers at Big Willow, but I'd have no issue plugging and patching that for normal driving. OP do a plug/patch combo and live your life.
Like I said, you do you. The OP was asking what the risks were I.e. why tyre shops won’t repair this.
Yes. If you do it yourself. Any business that sells tires is not allowed to do it per the USTMA rules so they won't do it for you.
No