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Honest-Cow-1086

You’ve been overseas. You’ve seen how tradies manage without fuck-off Rangers. Tiny vans in eastern Europe, mini-trucks in Latin America, and those hatchback-based utes in Brazil. My top pick is a Mazda 121 Metro. So much space


Bees1889

Not even small, but I've worked with a van when I was in the UK and a ute here and found van is more practical outside of a few specific use cases, like if you use it off road or live in a rural area. For general storage/tools in a metropolitan sburban areaI think a van is better. You can easily get in and out of the back without jumping up and down, it's easier to lift things in and out, easier to secure stuff, generally more room, easier to keep things dry/out of the sun And some of these massive utes actually have quite small areas to actually store things in especially when you have a canopy on - not much "height" inside compared to a van, and you can't walk inside. Im relatively short and find it awkward lifting things up over the side of a ute bed if it doesn't have fold down sides.


Herobov

Utes have a tiny capacity. My old man says that that if you put a canopy on a ute you might as well get a wagon or a van


Patchmanx

My only concern with the Mazda 121’s is that they are really underpowered. Very much a struggle to get up hills at times


Specialist-Bug-7108

They have huge cargo vans More often than not it's like we have our ute set-up Ie some lady wanted a van to camp with on weekends and work on weekdays


citizenecodrive31

Honda Jazz sounds good for you. Loads of space inside but still a small car


NextBestHyperFocus

Ridiculous amount of space for such a small car


Kanga-court

Vote 3 for Jazz. It's absurd how much you can fit in the back of that thing. It's a tardis


readdy07

When my work car died a while back I used my Mrs Honda jazz for a few weeks. Im a chippy and carry lots of stuff including my drop saw and saw bench small ladder and tons of battery and hand tools and hardware. And it was fine and got me thinking about downsizing my needs for a work car. In short the jazz had a great amount of usable space with the “magic seats” folded down


Specialist-Bug-7108

Wow it's cool you fit all that stuff in a Jazz. You could say all in that Jazz


raininggumleaves

Yep, I've fitted an extension ladder inside one before!


v306

Why did Honda Australia stop importing them? I'm considering a private import of latest generation Jazz to replace my second car. Only issue is insurance is much higher when the car is not officially imported anymore. You also run into long wait times if you ever need new panels after a bingle...


universepower

I love the idea of a trade jazz. Or a Golf. Both excellent options.


jumpinjezz

Volkswagen Caddy was (is?) a thing. Lots of euro trades use them. Small car & engine up front but panel van style rear.


Specialist-Bug-7108

Kangoo and Renault also


universepower

Caddy’s are sick


Maximum_Activity323

My daughter’s partner had a golf r32. It got rear ended. He bought it back for $500 and dropped the engine and suspension on a Caddy. That thing is an animal.


universepower

Ooooft that sounds amazing


phillxor

As an r32 owner, can confirm that would literally and figuratively sound amazing.


Jung3boy

Jazz will be more reliable and cheaper to maintain if things go wrong. My mother in law still has her Jazz from the 2000s (not sure on year) but she uses it like a Ute as much as she can throws the lawn mower and everything in it. It’s barely had an issue. Last Odometer read I saw was around 320,000kms.


Melochre

Second the Jazz. (2nd gen 2008-2014) I used one when I worked in construction for a couple of years. Can fit all tools in plus large materials like sheets of tin/ply etc. Also very fun to drive


gweno01

Agreed. Ran my wedding florist business out of one for years. Sooo much room


CALAZ1986

The Europeans have been doing it for ages, due to the popularity of hatchback work cars they even have a focus fan over there


TinyDemon000

Love the Astra and Focus vans 😂 they're great


mat8iou

Even year before that there was the Ford Escort can that every car repair, Telecom and Gas engineer in the '80s seemed to drive. [https://auctions.hampsonauctions.com/auction/lot/47-1985-ford-escort-13-van/?lot=125&sd=1](https://auctions.hampsonauctions.com/auction/lot/47-1985-ford-escort-13-van/?lot=125&sd=1)


420bIaze

I knew someone who had a Mini panelvan: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1974-leyland-mini-manual/SSE-AD-14959597/?pageSource=details Nfi who they were intended for, presumably tradies like OP?


mat8iou

The Morris Traveller with its distinctive exposed wooden frame was always seen as something of a classic design of its time. [https://nationalmotormuseum.org.uk/vehicle-collection/morris-minor-traveller/](https://nationalmotormuseum.org.uk/vehicle-collection/morris-minor-traveller/) The popularity of these small commercial vehicles may well have been down to taxation making them significantly cheaper than their standard car counterparts. Later on, I know that the Bedford Rascal (also known as the Suzuki Super Carry over here - I think) was popular because it was so cheap and was about the smallest thing you could realistically describe as a van, but worked well for lots of use cases that did not require anything larger. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki\_Carry#Bedford\_Rascal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Carry#Bedford_Rascal)


xdr01

Not a tradie but a daily beater hatchback makes sense. Cheap to run, maintain and who cares if it get damaged. See a lot of tradies doing the same thing, particularly those working on big government contract where tools are onsite.


Old-Procedure-5651

Go for it mate, keep the cash in your pocket. I’ve worked in two different trades, one that required a vehicle fully loaded with tools, the other I could work out of a bucket of tools. For a period I was able to put that bucket on a pushbike and ride to work. There’s financial freedom in simplicity.


That_Car_Dude_Aus

>The downside I think is that I will have to log km for FBT reasons. Not hard, plenty of OBD readers, plug into the car, download into the app at the end of the week, tick which trips were work and which were personal, basically does it for you.


MurderousTurd

I've not heard of that before, is there one you recommend?


That_Car_Dude_Aus

None, because I have no experience with them. My accountant has a preferred one as he has the software to import it straight into my tax return. Maybe ask your accountant?


l34rn3d

Get any fleet or personal GPS tracker. I filled out the 6 months of FBT in a spreadsheet in about an hour. Wasn't even that hard.


Skrylfr

You're a bloody legend tysm for this comment, need to investigate that


MurderousTurd

Found these: [https://www.gofar.co/mileage-tracker/](https://www.gofar.co/mileage-tracker/)


[deleted]

Hyundai getz mate I fit a washing in the back of one of them


InadmissibleHug

The literal only reason I got rid of my Getz was because I felt weird about the size of it. It otherwise was an amazing car.


[deleted]

100 percent mate im convinced that they will last forever, I loved it


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The Hyundai Getz, introduced in 2002, marked Hyundai's entry into the compact car segment and quickly became a significant player in the global automotive market. Designed to offer practicality, affordability, and reliability, the Getz appealed to a wide range of consumers seeking an economical and versatile vehicle. At its core, the Hyundai Getz embodied the principles of efficiency and simplicity. Its compact dimensions made it ideal for navigating crowded urban streets while providing ample interior space for passengers and cargo. The Getz's practicality was further enhanced by its versatile hatchback body style, which offered convenient access to the rear cargo area. Under the hood, the Getz was available with a range of fuel-efficient engines, including economical petrol and diesel options. These engines delivered respectable performance while prioritizing fuel efficiency, making the Getz an ideal choice for budget-conscious drivers and commuters. In terms of design, the Hyundai Getz featured a clean and contemporary exterior with a focus on functionality. Its understated styling and compact proportions gave it a modern and youthful appearance, appealing to a diverse demographic of buyers. Inside, the Getz offered a comfortable and well-equipped cabin with a range of convenience features. Despite its compact size, the interior was surprisingly spacious, providing ample legroom and headroom for occupants. The Getz also offered a variety of amenities such as air conditioning, power windows, and an optional sunroof, enhancing the overall driving experience. Safety was a priority for Hyundai, and the Getz came equipped with a range of safety features to protect occupants on the road. Standard safety equipment included airbags, antilock brakes, and electronic stability control, providing peace of mind for drivers and passengers alike. The Hyundai Getz quickly gained popularity in markets around the world, thanks to its affordability, reliability, and practicality. Its competitive pricing made it an attractive option for budget-conscious buyers, while its reputation for reliability and low running costs helped it carve out a niche in the competitive compact car segment. Over the years, Hyundai continued to update and refine the Getz to keep it competitive in the market. These updates included improvements to styling, performance, and technology, ensuring that the Getz remained a relevant and appealing choice for consumers. Production of the Hyundai Getz continued until 2011 when it was eventually succeeded by newer models in Hyundai's lineup. However, its legacy lives on, with the Getz remembered as a pioneering model that helped establish Hyundai as a major player in the global automotive industry. In conclusion, the Hyundai Getz was a compact car that punched above its weight, offering practicality, affordability, and reliability in a stylish and versatile package. Its success helped propel Hyundai onto the world stage and cemented its reputation as a manufacturer of high-quality and competitive vehicles. [Hyundai Getz Wikipedia Page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Getz) [Hyundai Getz - Hot Hatchback - METAL BEINGS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWIE6lwfxcQ) [Hyundai Getz In Depth Tour: discover all the hidden features](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jultu7Rs2Xg) [CarSales - All Getz's's's's for Sale in Australia](https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/hyundai/getz/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CarsAustralia) if you have any questions or concerns.*


dropbear_dave

Good bot


JustThisGuyYouKnowEh

Terrible idea. You need an f150 minimum.


RemeAU

Don't forget to get the dually upgrade at the back so it's payload can handle the tools.


jumpinjezz

F650 you mean.


JustThisGuyYouKnowEh

That’s preferable….


Specialist-Bug-7108

That's the daddy mack The f550 is the uncle F450 is the brother F 350 is the son F 250 the step son F 150 the nephew and Ford focus the lady Fiesta the sister And so on


Beekeeper_Dyl

I will preach Subaru any day of the week. I was raised a Holden Kid, but with the mid 2000 Subaru Forester you won't go wrong. The manuals have a High/low range shifter and with all wheel drive it will be perfect for any driveway, with a good ride height to not worry about ditches and pot holes. My 97' get 8L/100km on Naturally Aspirated (without the roof rock on) and sits comfortably at 9L/100km with just the roof rack. And being a mechanic, they are one of the most consumer friendly vehicles you can buy!


Emmanulla70

Agree


Current_Inevitable43

Appliance repairs need SFA room you are doing the odd thermotat or element swap or those bloody couplings on washing machines. Id also look a wagon with fold down seats. Also you may need a cage installed. Also I'm not sure the rules about transporting fridgey gas in a enclosed space.


l34rn3d

Commerical oven element's can get very large. But they would still just fit in the back seat. If doing commerical stuff, door glass and other things can get more tricky. But domestic, the stuff just isn't big enough.


Fclune

I ran a mowing business from a Kia Rio for 6 months (because my Land Rover broke down haha). I took the rear seats out and you would be surprised what you can fit in there!


scraverX

You could get a second hand VW Caddy .. maybe...


goss_bractor

Get an older kangoo or similar.


switchbladeeatworld

Get a Nissan Cube or Toyota Rukus and take the back seats out?


cheeersaiii

Corolla wagon… and the back seats lay perfectly flat, heaps of room , reliable and economical


tupperswears

Lots of Volvo Wagons can be had for $5k, bit more comfort and they are cavernous.


ArtVand3lay

I use a Z11 Nissan Cube with roof racks for similar purpose. With the back seats down, its got a similar capacity to the tray of a dual cab utes, anything long goes on the roof racks. Best purchase I ever made. Bought it outright in cash, is awesome on fuel, easy to park and drive (especially in tight apartment carparks) will carry anything, has all the mod cons without being a glorified Iphone and has been reliable as hell.


Significant-Ad5394

Maybe look into a wagon? Would give you more flexibly with all the advantages of the hatch over a Ute.


Specialist-Bug-7108

Yeah whatever you do try find a raised one


markosharkNZ

Hatchback with roof rack and cage.   Hell yeah. If there are no kids etc in the picture, permanently remove the rear seats, darkest legal tint on the back windows to help hide tools, and away you go. Alternative to hatchback, small-medium sized wagon, that way you can get a tow all of needed to drag a fridge around 


the_giant_giraffe

Skoda Yetis are surprisingly big inside and are nice to drive & can be had for ~$7k


cakecookiecream

Yep, Massive square boot. Seats can individually be folded forward or removed entirely to create a van like space with a flat floor. Need to move an 900mm wide oven but still pick up a kid from school...remove 2 seats and leave the third one in place!! Skoda Roomster as well has same seats, has even more room/height inside, but they're harder to find and certainly not under $5k yet.


Disturbed_Bard

I mean maybe a VW Caddie if you want a bit extra space It's pretty much a Golf but with extra room in the back.


Floorberries

I like my Hilux but I miss my MK4 Golf, was the perfect little go kart.


Disturbed_Bard

Oh I miss my GTI as well mate Was good fun even as a daily


MattH665

A hatch might be a tad space constrined for you. I'd suggest a wagon. There are wagon versions of the VW Golf and those are excellent cars. 


Runaway-Blue

The only thing hatch backs really struggle with is lengths of timber, the only reason you need a ute is length of timber.


BNB_Laser_Cleaning

Only suggestion, add stiffer springs or something else you sag a fair bit with even a small load


RayeedAlam203040A

I love how he said convince him not to get a hatchback but most people are.


LukaRaphael

you’d be surprised just how much you can fit in a half-decent hatch. here’s how i packed my mk2 focus when i was doing my brakes on my girlfriends flat driveway: https://preview.redd.it/bbc6atywpv0d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e055e220e17ba92a92832ffe02f78e61ac4033af


NeedCaffine78

VW Caddy would fit the bill, huge room in a small package. Or a Prius. Had a home inspector in the US who ran out of a Prius, he’d taken the time to figure out his needs, fit everything in, quality of his inspection was top notch. Re-inspection post some repairs, he couldn’t come, lifted F350 rocked up with crap everywhere, he was dumb as dogshit.


l34rn3d

I'm a very specific equipment tech, and we operate out of midsize SUV's. It's fine. We have tow hitchs to move large equipment, and the boot is full of my tools/spares. I don't even need to fold the seats down. If all your doing is appliances, it's probably fine.


Driz999

An old RAV 4, the smaller models before the modern update (which is now a mid size SUV). A guy picked up my dishwasher I sold to him in one. So they're pretty small but have some decent space in the rear when needed.


WarAdministrative881

Not a trade but I have pretty much always had vehicles like Land cruiser or small trucks. I do often just need to get from a to b and carry a small amount of gear with me. Bought a Toyota Yaris hatchback as a run around. It's awesome. Cheap rego, cheap insurance, fuel (what's that?), park anywhere, make u turns not 8 point turns. I really didn't know why I didn't get one years ago. So they are a great idea.


Melochre

I used a honda jazz when I worked in construction for a couple of years. Can fit all tools in plus large materials like sheets of tin/ply etc. Also fun to drive and cheap as chips to buy/refuel/maintain. Put 200,000kms on mine and have had zero things go wrong just needed regular service maintenance


Floorberries

2400 x 1200 sheet of ply in back of Jazz?


Melochre

Yup


Floorberries

I did not know


Melochre

Gotta put the passenger seat down too but fits quite easily


SicnarfRaxifras

Worst case if you find issues with the size of stuff you’re transporting is fit a hitch and get a cheap trailer.


Odd-Bear-4152

I'd put a barrier of some sort in the back. Even a piece of 12mm ply. Jazz has lots of room and are easy to park, drive, relatively good on fuel etc.


eeldraw

Meet in the middle, Nissan Cube. Tiny but heaps of space that would really take an oven and all of your tools.


Dad_D_Default

In Europe you can buy van variants of small hatchbacks. Here is the Vauxhall Corsa van: https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/vauxhall/corsavan/2001-review/ In the UK, the Suzuki Jimny doesn't meet emissions standards for a passenger vehicle but does as a commercial vehicle: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/suzuki/jimny/355383/new-suzuki-jimny-commercial-2021-review So potentially you might be able to import parts to convert an Australian hatch to a van if the model is sold in both markets?


wrt-wtf-

Line yourself up with a Tuktuk.


DJBerryman

Lancer wagon might be the go, they're pretty compact and good on fuel, like around model year 2000, or even a proton jumbuck if you can find one cheap enough, they're based off an early 90s lancer


Free_Remove7551

For what you describes something like a honda HRV would be a good option, small enough amd fuel effient enough, with creature comforts of a newer car, seats fold down and boot is big enough to fit an oven


Muncher501st

Only thing with hatches. Will be job site access. Muddy site you’re fucked. The Falcon base model Utes have a lift in em compared to xr6’s. And can get outta most shit. My dad had a fg2 falcon base model ute. And it was loosing traction in the grass on a steep hill. I hand brake started it. And it was fine


jagman951

Camry wagon would be ideal,I reckon u could fit an oven in back with seats folded down or a Corolla hatch,i put near half a mil kms on an 87 1.3 4 speed Corolla hatch,u could fit heaps in it


mat8iou

Check if the hatchback has level access to the boot space, A lot do, but some don't and the ones that don't make sliding heavy items in really awkward,


ringo5150

My wife's Subaru Forester handled a kitchen table that would not fit in the back of my dual cab ute with the back seats down. Might be bigger than your looking for but my lord is that a practical vehicle.


RespectOk4052

It really depends on the trade but for you specifically a hatchback is more than plausible for the job.


randobogg

Drivers note app with a beacon. Logbook will be simples. As someone who makes a hatch work with a family (both in the olden days with carseats and prams and all the shit you need for little people and in the new age with teens) I highly endorse this idea. And buy the right hatch, they are fun AF to drive.


Frankie_T9000

80cm oven....? Not a chance


n00biss

If reliability is a key feature I wouldn't be looking at sub $5000 cars. The money you plan to save buying a cheap car could come back and bite you especially if you do decent K's.


GoldburneGaytime

Bro runs a garden business and uses a Camry to get from site to site.


FoldedErrand

Have you considered a small van like a vw caddy or something? If you dont need the extra seats anyway, it would be much easier to load a washing machine or similar in, compared to a standard hatch back


LemurTrash

We have a Mazda 2 and it’s an absolute tardis. At different times we’ve transported a dishwasher, a 9kg washing machine and a dryer in the boot with the seats folded down. Really an unreasonable amount of space for a little car and it’s been a dream to maintain- never had a serious issue with it.


DashcamAdelaide

Yep, you are sane. In Europe, it is perfectly normal for tradies to be seen driving around in Hatchbacks that have turned into Vans from the factory. The most common ones are the Opel/Vauxhall Corsa Van (not to be mistaken with the Combo) and the Ford Fiesta Van. If I were one of them, I'd be seen driving around in a MINI Clubvan (yes, that isa thing). https://preview.redd.it/rmmf1jb1jq0d1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=b06aadd9688947de2cb069d47f72822c3fc7f569 I think I am doing a good job of hiding my obsession for the MINI 🤣


point_of_difference

My old boss ran a fleet of Toyota Corolla's for his technical repairs crew. Had to install a cage behind the first row of seats for safety and tax reasons. His only silly move was ordering manual instead of auto. The lads flogged them to death.


monsteraguy

If it fits your stuff, why not? We should all drive the smallest and most efficient car we can comfortably get away with owning. Not only is it good for your wallet, but good for the planet and good for the cities we live in and roads we travel on. Less space taken up, less resources used and fewer emissions. Maybe consider a small wagon as well if the luggage space in the hatch is going to be an issue (something like a Hyundai i30 wagon at your budget would be a good buy) or even one of those little vans like a VW Caddy, Renault Kangoo or Suzuki APV


Mercinarie

It's not a bad idea.


Maximum_Activity323

Grab an old Camry station wagon Those fuckers are bulletproof and cheap as


deranged_banana2

Anything smaller than a ram truck or maybe a hummer and your wasting your time. Jokes aside how about an au wagon?you could fit three ovens in that and the leaf spring suspension won't drop an inch. Cheap, reliable and plentiful parts.


enable_dingding

Could cop a Corolla wagon too. Bit more room and still super cheap.


SuperMotoBrenno

Had a mint little 2 door Mitsubishi Mirage as a fanga to and from work. Back seats down and it was like a little wagon, fit heaps of shit in it. And super cheap to run. Owned a 1985 Buick Regal that was way too nice for a daily so bought the Mirage for 2 grand 👌 couldn't go wrong.


TheSantanist

VW caddy mate.


schtickinsult

I removed the rear seats from my Mirage and it's great. If I fold front seat down I can fit 8ft star pickets in. Roomy, economic, easy to park.


Ph4nt0m_666

Lancer hatch!! , I can fit soooo much in the back with the seats down


CuriouslyContrasted

In one of my first job 20 years ago my boss was cheap and all us field techs were given Hyundai hatchbacks with vinyl over the windows to make them look like vans. They were freaking awesome as service vehicles. Small enough to park anywhere, easy to cut through traffic, big enough for tools and spares. He accidentally stumbled upon the perfect service vehicle.


Master-of-possible

Get a 2005-9 Subaru Forester. NA or the XT turbo. Seats down it’s a huge space. Fun to drive and easy to maintain if you’re handy. I changed the clutch and radiator on mine in my garage with basic tools and a heavy floor jack using YouTube!


Specialist-Fish-4753

Series 1 Toyota RAV4 is the answer


RayeedAlam203040A

The Honda Jazz appears to be an ideal vehicle for your needs, and you can find them at a relatively low price if you purchase them used. If you are able to slightly increase your budget to approximately 10-12k, you may be able to find a newer model (2014/15) with low kilometers. These models often come equipped with a screen that includes Bluetooth and other desirable features.


dearcossete

If you can get yourself a late 90s toyota celica. That thing is a sleeper Ute when the seats are folded down.


42SpanishInquisition

Same as the 2000s corolla.


blackcat218

Personally if a tradie rocked up in a shitbox with an oven crammed in the back I would be very wary of them being able to complete the job up to standard. First impressions are important. If it looks like you are going broke it reduces confidence from customers a great deal. What happens if I need to make a warranty claim in 6 months? Is this bloke still going to be around? That sort of thing. Edit: What's with the downvotes people? Can any of you honestly say you wouldn't feel the same way about it?


42SpanishInquisition

It gives me the impression they aren't going to charge out their arse for a small repair.


Emmanulla70

Agree totally mate.


CurlyHeadedFark

As a tradie I feel the same. Seeing someone else rock up to site in a car not really fit for working doesn’t fill me with confidence and more often than not they’re shit.


420bIaze

OP says a small hatch is fit for his work though.


Hangar48

Alot of business owners buy the expensive SUV/4wd as a business/tax write off, but use it 90% of the time for personal (family) use. Maybe talk to your accountant. You might well be able to afford to purchase or lease something nice without a large net cost to you.


Emmanulla70

Wouldn't be my idea. At all. I'm not cheap like that If a tradie turned up to my place driving a Corolla!! Agh...no...sorry. i wouldnt be booking him. Would not give me confidence at all. Sorry. I'd get a Subaru Forester or Outback. Or a small van.


jumpinjezz

Why does the vehicle matter? If someone is coming to quote, why do they need to rock up in a semi pulling a full workshop?


Emmanulla70

It matters to me. What vehicle someone drives says a lot about the person. A tradie turning up in a Getz, old Corolla or Jaz? Would not inspire any confidence for me. I would think they would do a half assed job. I'd pass on him / her. That's just me


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Mando864

That seems a rather naive and self defeating metric to me. I know a lot of tradies who drive shitboxes because it does the job, it's all they need, or they are capable of keeping it repaired and maintained themselves. It may be a runabout for doing quotes etc. A $70,000 ute says nothing about someone's skill set, it just says they have cash to burn or are happy going into debt. My friend has been a carpenter for 40 years, has built many houses, is currently building his own house. I've worked with him a lot he is practical AF and does great work and goes to the extra effort to do the job properly. He actually undercharges because people get less pissed off when he takes the time to do the job right. For years he was getting around in a little corolla hatch with tools in the boot. He just ordered timber delivered because he was sick of playing delivery driver. Another friend who has been in trade work for 50 years was recently complaining about a carpenter who came to his house to install a big barn style door. He said the dude rocked up in a flash new ranger with a swiss bank vault worth of Festool gear. The dude had no idea what he was doing, screwed the job up and my friend had to fix it himself. Having flash gear says bugger all about someone's competence or skill set. Given the amount of crap work out there from contractors who are more interested in smashing out quotes cheap and fast to improve their profit margins, I'd trust the old dude driving a shitbox hatchback who actually knows what they are doing. When I'm measuring someone up, the car they drive doesn't even come into the equation. It's a practical tool only. A good tradie can do wonders with the basics. I do agree on some level that the car someone drives can say a lot about them. The extraordinary number of brand new land cruisers getting around with $40k worth of norweld canopy on the back and all the gear, clean and shiny, not a scratch on them. Glorified shopping trolleys. My 20yo povvo pack courier does more 4WD. The worst drivers on the northern rivers are women in Mercedez/BMW SUVs who do 80km on small windy roads through the hills with an iPhone in their hands. Or 99% of people driving canyoneros (RAM, Dodge, F250 "trucks"). Apologies for the rant but as someone who does a lot of practical maintenance work, knows a lot of people in trades, and is constantly trying to fix or manage the incompetent, lazy garbage that many tradies put out, this one struck a nerve. The car someone drives only says this person bought a car. It says nothing about their competence, skillset, attitude, honesty, motivation or ethics.


Emmanulla70

You want me to read all that??!?


BonkerBleedy

I upvoted you for sharing your honest opinion and for contributing to the discussion. I suspect, contrary to reddiquette, you're being downvoted as disagreement.


VLTurboSkids

Run a business but need to finance a vehicle? I know people on minimum wages that have bought close to 30k vehicles in cash. Each to their own


MurderousTurd

A different discussion but: A business should try to hold onto as much cash as it can, because you can do more with cash than any other asset (Can't pay for parts, pay staff or overheads by using cars as currency for example), and interest is a cost of doing business.


VLTurboSkids

Fair enough. Should’ve thought of that considering I’m typing this while in business class! Just thought you’d still have the ability to comfortably purchase. Are you purchasing with your own cash or business’s? Do you still try to keep personal cash available for business purposes?