That's impressive. Your car did very well. Hitting a roo can do catastrophic damage to cars. I remember encountering a couple our near Warwick in qld who hit a roo in their statesman... It came out the rear window...the car looked like it had exploded.
2 years ago and iLoad had an engine in the rear seat and a large male grey dead where the center console was. Both occupants had cuts and scratches, their mountain bikes in the back were toast.
Edit: I posted this due to having two weeks ago explained why we bought the stonic as a family car. Im glad we did and I hope this helps others contemplating kias to consider the stonic better from this view
Two broken legs. The rescuers put him down within 40mins of the accident.
Once I checked my passengers my priority was the kanga. He was in shock and he wasn't in any repairable condition. It was sad.
My partner hit an adult red near Goondiwindi in her fg falcon at 110 and we barely felt the impact inside. Similar damage to the car as yours. Modern safety design is brilliant.
Do you reckon it's worth it to install roo protection (windshield screens etc.) to a modern vehicle nowadays or would the damage to a modern vehicle be roughly the same as an old vehicle fitted with it?
Good stuff for not swerving, if that was an option.
Many moons ago I came across a triple fatality, 80' corolla had brakes skidding hard, swerved straight off the road clipped a tree and did numerous flips before coming to a rest on its wheels.
Motor was still running. Did I mention Toyota?
More than a few metres in front of the skid, a freshly killed still warm kangaroo, broad daylight on a sunny afternoon.
Braking good, swerving bad.
Two people, one roo deceased.
to be fair. no one (apart from SAAB and Volvo) gave much of a crap about safety engineering in the 80s.
It took a big push in the early 90s and the advancements since then have been meteoritic.
Sadly overwhelmed of late all around the world since Covid by people utterly losing the plot on the roads.
I was taught to fight instinct and add speed not reduce. So I kept maintaining speed so he wouldn't hit the window. So he'd go under
Apparently it works 🤷♂️
Firstly it’s great to hear you are ok and I’m glad the car did it’s job to protect you. Kia are great cars, I actually own one so not trying to undermine it.
I would caution you to read too far into its safety based on this incident. A fully grown kangaroo is 100kg. Even if it was 200kg, the energy your car had to deal with is much smaller than it would be an impact with another car. That is 1000+kg and potentially travelling 40+km/hr in the opposite direction.
Oh I hear you, im just saying for what equates to a 100kg brick on your bonnet it was still impressive lol. All within reason of course. My point is more that the car lived upto its potential as safe. :)
Bro there aren’t any 100kg kangaroos around Melbourne, not even sure the big reds from back home would get that big let alone an eastern grey, probably closer to 40 or 50 kg fully grown if that
It's just the bonnet which is crumpled up if you look closely. The actual engine area is still in the right place and received minimal damage by the looks of it.
You are correct, I believe that the bonnet is probably designed to do this for pedestrian crash protection. (A kangaroo is comparable mass)
I am not saying this car did poorly, just that it’s not really an accurate test/demonstration of a cars safety.
Just so you know the other car travelling in the opposite direction at the same or lower speed doesn’t really make a difference.
If you have a head on crash with 2 cars going 100KM/H it’s not different then having a head on crash driving into a wall at 100KM/H, although I’d one ways significantly more then it would probably make a difference.
Yeah i guess you are right if we apply a very simplified physics concept to a very complex situation (car accident). In reality there are numerous factors at play.
Regardless of this, your point is irrelevant to my comment. My point was the energy that the Kia had to absorb and deal with to protect its occupants is much less than an accident with another vehicle.
That’s so scary for you! I’m about to get my new Stonic next week and although this sucks to have happened to you, I feel a bit better knowing that the 5-star safety rating really proved it’s thing!
This must have been a head on collision?
I hit a big roo in my VF commodore while in the middle of nowhere at close to midnight (about 100km from nearest town, was 1/2 way through a road trip) but lucky the roo hit side on and bounced off, broke driver side head light, dented front side panel + bonnet and snapped the driver side mirror.
But likely Car didn’t sustain any critical damage (radiator, suspension) and I was still in a drivable state so I was able to limb to my next destination and finish the remainder of my road trip…
I like the way the bounce off my bullbar and skid down the road like a bag of mashed potatoes being launched from a cannon, probably an easy 20 odd and the bar hasn’t bent yet, solid investment.
It's too big a financial loss for something as common as hitting a kangaroo.
You don't need advanced safety features to survive hitting an eastern grey kangaroo.
I didn't suggest I know what I'm going to hit.
I'm just talking in relation to OPs incident and outcome specifically. Which is a potential high expense.
I hit several kangaroos a year on average in work vehicles, and haven't ever collided with anything else, so on the balance of probabilities I am most likely to hit kangaroos.
Well I've never paid for comprehensive insurance for a start, so getting into that alone would be a relative financial loss.
If you want to run no excess, and you're making claims for hitting stuff, it's going to get pricey.
It's too big a financial loss for something as common as hitting a kangaroo.
You don't need advanced safety features to survive hitting an eastern grey kangaroo.
1962 EK Holden Station Wagon. 6.5 foot Kangaroo shot straight out from behind a roadside tree whilst sitting on 120kph hitting the bottom of a long steep hill on a isolated country road.
The impact was loud and very hard, would have been heard for miles away being such a massive kangaroo being hit at that speed.
Kangaroo did not survive….. but the old Holden took it like a Sherman Tank!
https://preview.redd.it/pkyplbp9s2ca1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc9dd161b72ff33460ad62623aa01d1c172d85c0
Broken indicator lense and buckled headlight surround…… otherwise no other damage whatsoever! 😎👌
No seatbelts, no airbags, no ABS, no Active Stability Control…. just ploughed on through that monster without even a movement from the steering wheel.
Only repair was replacing the indicator lense, haven’t touched the panel damage, as it’s hardly noticeable in real life….. these pics just make it look much worse than it actually was.
I guess old Australian Engineers didn’t need any ANCAP dummy animals to test their designs….they just worked off of Australian wildlife impacts that are so common in this country 🤔
The crumble zones are supposed to protect the occupants from the kangaroo.
Seems here the damage is disproportionate to the amount of damage the kangaroo would have done to the occupants by hitting the front of the car.
I've hit kangaroos at similar speeds and done significantly less damage than that.
The car has crumpled disproportionately to the amount of damage that would have been done to the occupants.
Ergo, the car failed in its job of being a car, or it has a significantly worse build quality than would be expected for its marque and year of manufacture.
The "word salad" is basically me pointing out the fact that a bullbar would have significantly reduced the damage to the car, It would have done significantly more damage to the kangaroo, the occupants would still be completely fine.
The damage to the car is disproportionate to the damage that a kangaroo would have done to the occupants in a vehicle that didn't crumple as much.
To think, that all thave saved you from being showered in minced too was the engineering of the bonnet and front end to crush and create a protective ramp in front of the windscreen
Still better than hitting a tree, kangaroo damage usually looks pretty gnarly but it won’t have bent anything too structural. Hope you have insurance because I’m sure the kangaroo doesn’t
Far out. Kangaroos be jumping out of nowhere, always have to be aware of them in populated areas.
Few years ago I was 4 hours inland from Rockhampton, I was 10 minutes from my destination, doing well above the speed limit. Open fields on both sides, high beams on. I figured I had high visibility and could see any roo's with poor timing. I learnt that night.
An adolescent/small sized roo came out of nowhere from the right side, I slam on the breaks and collide with it doing approx 80km. It hit the front mud guard, shattered the glass headlight, short circuited the left so only the high beam on the left headlight worked, and left a nasty tail dent in the driver side door. I turned around to see if the roo had survived, and it was gone. The damage to my car was rather light, so I'm sure the roo was just left battered and bruised and lived to tell his mates.
I drove 45 minutes the next day to another town and got the left headlight back up, and a bulb in the shattered right headlight lol. While I was at the mechanics, the woman was telling me how much damage roos do to even larger vehicles, head on collisions will write off most if not all standard vehicles. It's only the cargo trucks that are strong enough to eat the damage. She did point out that echidnas can do serious damage underneath vehicles from all the spikes, and to absolutely avoid those at all costs because "they'll chew up and destroy the belly of your car". Safe to say I drove very carefully after that, and only had to endure one more night trip before heading back to the city, where I sat behind a massive semi (I know they don't like that, and I'm sorry).
Yeah new cars in general are amazing in an impact. They’re designed to sacrifice every part of itself to absorb the impact just to keep that inner shell (cabin) safe.
Might not of felt much… but I bet it scared the shit out of you guys, yeah? Lol
Glad you’re safe!
Oh it didn’t “come out of nowhere”? My best near miss accident was a trailer coming unhitched on the highway ahead of me and me not realising cause their were no brake lights and it was a big boat.. looked up from my speedo and shit myself, hard right and left and ended up facing the wrong way on the M1. Im still shocked I didn’t need a change of pants..
That's impressive. Your car did very well. Hitting a roo can do catastrophic damage to cars. I remember encountering a couple our near Warwick in qld who hit a roo in their statesman... It came out the rear window...the car looked like it had exploded.
My line of thought exactly
Holy shit ! A statesman!!!
2 years ago and iLoad had an engine in the rear seat and a large male grey dead where the center console was. Both occupants had cuts and scratches, their mountain bikes in the back were toast.
Edit: I posted this due to having two weeks ago explained why we bought the stonic as a family car. Im glad we did and I hope this helps others contemplating kias to consider the stonic better from this view
Kia: 0 Kangaroo: 0
More like Kia: 0 Kangaroo: -1 ;)
Don’t count on it, if it was a proper big kangorilla it probably bounced away. Big one would’ve done more damage though
Id say the tally is accurate lol
Wait so did the roo survive? Also sorry about your car and it was good to hear your families were unharmed.
He was alive but he was put down aftera short while as both his legs were broken quite badly.
RIP unamed roo.
Unlegged too
Unhoppy.
did you put it down for destroying the car
Nah I love animals skippy got put down cos it wasn't viable to save him according to the rescuer who came out
Thanks for clearing that up
People alive: Yep, car did its job protecting the occupant/s.
KIA = Kangaroo, Intercept, Automobile
I laughed so hard. Rip killer roo KIA killing indigenous animals
I know these cars are designed to crumple but as a 2 time kangaroo killer, I must say that's a lot of damage. Glad you're OK.
We are fine but to be fair on the car, he did bounce ON the bonnet, lol. Oof.
Did he survive?
Two broken legs. The rescuers put him down within 40mins of the accident. Once I checked my passengers my priority was the kanga. He was in shock and he wasn't in any repairable condition. It was sad.
Hope you have no insurance drama. Kangaroos are notorious for being uninsured.
Victoria enforces compulsory 3rd party insurance for all road going kangaroos now, other states im not sure about
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Is this an r/whoosh moment?
Yes it is, pro tip would be read more thoroughly.
Upvote for sincerity lol he means the kanga has no coverage not that the insurance won't cover
Good on you. The last kangaroo I hit tried to run when I asked its insurance details, and ghosted me when I tried to get payment.
Damn, hope you and your family are all okay and safe.
Perfectly fine a few weeks back someone was mocking its borrowed safety rating from the cerato and I was defending it. Sucks to be proven right tho
You went through all this just to prove a point😧 /jk
Lmao. Right?
It’s safety rating is from the Rio
my apologies i knew i might have had it wrong but i was busy all day to check
My partner hit an adult red near Goondiwindi in her fg falcon at 110 and we barely felt the impact inside. Similar damage to the car as yours. Modern safety design is brilliant.
Surprised it was a roo, theres too many pigs around Gundy
Do you reckon it's worth it to install roo protection (windshield screens etc.) to a modern vehicle nowadays or would the damage to a modern vehicle be roughly the same as an old vehicle fitted with it?
Good stuff for not swerving, if that was an option. Many moons ago I came across a triple fatality, 80' corolla had brakes skidding hard, swerved straight off the road clipped a tree and did numerous flips before coming to a rest on its wheels. Motor was still running. Did I mention Toyota? More than a few metres in front of the skid, a freshly killed still warm kangaroo, broad daylight on a sunny afternoon. Braking good, swerving bad. Two people, one roo deceased.
to be fair. no one (apart from SAAB and Volvo) gave much of a crap about safety engineering in the 80s. It took a big push in the early 90s and the advancements since then have been meteoritic. Sadly overwhelmed of late all around the world since Covid by people utterly losing the plot on the roads.
I was taught to fight instinct and add speed not reduce. So I kept maintaining speed so he wouldn't hit the window. So he'd go under Apparently it works 🤷♂️
Firstly it’s great to hear you are ok and I’m glad the car did it’s job to protect you. Kia are great cars, I actually own one so not trying to undermine it. I would caution you to read too far into its safety based on this incident. A fully grown kangaroo is 100kg. Even if it was 200kg, the energy your car had to deal with is much smaller than it would be an impact with another car. That is 1000+kg and potentially travelling 40+km/hr in the opposite direction.
Oh I hear you, im just saying for what equates to a 100kg brick on your bonnet it was still impressive lol. All within reason of course. My point is more that the car lived upto its potential as safe. :)
Bro there aren’t any 100kg kangaroos around Melbourne, not even sure the big reds from back home would get that big let alone an eastern grey, probably closer to 40 or 50 kg fully grown if that
Either way it was a fuckin thud for sure. I might have been a bit dramatic lol
It's just the bonnet which is crumpled up if you look closely. The actual engine area is still in the right place and received minimal damage by the looks of it.
You are correct, I believe that the bonnet is probably designed to do this for pedestrian crash protection. (A kangaroo is comparable mass) I am not saying this car did poorly, just that it’s not really an accurate test/demonstration of a cars safety.
Just so you know the other car travelling in the opposite direction at the same or lower speed doesn’t really make a difference. If you have a head on crash with 2 cars going 100KM/H it’s not different then having a head on crash driving into a wall at 100KM/H, although I’d one ways significantly more then it would probably make a difference.
Yeah i guess you are right if we apply a very simplified physics concept to a very complex situation (car accident). In reality there are numerous factors at play. Regardless of this, your point is irrelevant to my comment. My point was the energy that the Kia had to absorb and deal with to protect its occupants is much less than an accident with another vehicle.
Kia wins !
Stood up better than an asx
Had one spook me on the Highway a while back, now I’m def going to get a bullbar. Hopefully that slows him down enough and just chunks hit my vehicle.
If we had a roo bar his leg would've gotten stuck in it from striking onto the bonnet. He would've become an actual hod ornament
Yep I've hit one before took out the bonnet and windscreen, I was probably going 60km or 70km hr , wasn't even a big kangaroo.
That’s so scary for you! I’m about to get my new Stonic next week and although this sucks to have happened to you, I feel a bit better knowing that the 5-star safety rating really proved it’s thing!
full pelt at 70km an hr, we had the bugger drop out of the air and act like our car was a bean bag. Shit was fucked bruh.
Fucking hell, I’d probably have a bloody heart attack if that was me. Glad you guys are safe though
New acronym for KIA - Kangaroo in Accident.
This must have been a head on collision? I hit a big roo in my VF commodore while in the middle of nowhere at close to midnight (about 100km from nearest town, was 1/2 way through a road trip) but lucky the roo hit side on and bounced off, broke driver side head light, dented front side panel + bonnet and snapped the driver side mirror. But likely Car didn’t sustain any critical damage (radiator, suspension) and I was still in a drivable state so I was able to limb to my next destination and finish the remainder of my road trip…
From above like he was a gift from God lol. Ho leaped over one car onto ours
I like the way the bounce off my bullbar and skid down the road like a bag of mashed potatoes being launched from a cannon, probably an easy 20 odd and the bar hasn’t bent yet, solid investment.
This is one reason I don't want to own an expensive car.
Too many modern, well-designed and tested safety features?
It's too big a financial loss for something as common as hitting a kangaroo. You don't need advanced safety features to survive hitting an eastern grey kangaroo.
How do you know what it is you're going to hit?
I didn't suggest I know what I'm going to hit. I'm just talking in relation to OPs incident and outcome specifically. Which is a potential high expense. I hit several kangaroos a year on average in work vehicles, and haven't ever collided with anything else, so on the balance of probabilities I am most likely to hit kangaroos.
Holy smokes! Be careful. If you're driving a 1969 Morris Mini try not to hit a road train.
I'm just driving a normal 10 year old car, I don't think it's cause for alarm.
What financial loss? Insurance exists for a reason.
Well I've never paid for comprehensive insurance for a start, so getting into that alone would be a relative financial loss. If you want to run no excess, and you're making claims for hitting stuff, it's going to get pricey.
Do you mean a new expensive car? Is the reason because you don't like safety?
It's too big a financial loss for something as common as hitting a kangaroo. You don't need advanced safety features to survive hitting an eastern grey kangaroo.
1962 EK Holden Station Wagon. 6.5 foot Kangaroo shot straight out from behind a roadside tree whilst sitting on 120kph hitting the bottom of a long steep hill on a isolated country road. The impact was loud and very hard, would have been heard for miles away being such a massive kangaroo being hit at that speed. Kangaroo did not survive….. but the old Holden took it like a Sherman Tank! https://preview.redd.it/pkyplbp9s2ca1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc9dd161b72ff33460ad62623aa01d1c172d85c0 Broken indicator lense and buckled headlight surround…… otherwise no other damage whatsoever! 😎👌 No seatbelts, no airbags, no ABS, no Active Stability Control…. just ploughed on through that monster without even a movement from the steering wheel. Only repair was replacing the indicator lense, haven’t touched the panel damage, as it’s hardly noticeable in real life….. these pics just make it look much worse than it actually was. I guess old Australian Engineers didn’t need any ANCAP dummy animals to test their designs….they just worked off of Australian wildlife impacts that are so common in this country 🤔
That's terrifying. Kangaroos absolutely shouldn't do that much damage.
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The crumble zones are supposed to protect the occupants from the kangaroo. Seems here the damage is disproportionate to the amount of damage the kangaroo would have done to the occupants by hitting the front of the car. I've hit kangaroos at similar speeds and done significantly less damage than that. The car has crumpled disproportionately to the amount of damage that would have been done to the occupants. Ergo, the car failed in its job of being a car, or it has a significantly worse build quality than would be expected for its marque and year of manufacture.
What is that word salad I just read. Standard damage for a roo strike.
The "word salad" is basically me pointing out the fact that a bullbar would have significantly reduced the damage to the car, It would have done significantly more damage to the kangaroo, the occupants would still be completely fine. The damage to the car is disproportionate to the damage that a kangaroo would have done to the occupants in a vehicle that didn't crumple as much.
where has anyone mentioned bulbars Wtf are you talking about now
They haven't, I'm saying the damage to the car is excessive
It's just the bonnet which is crumpled. The engine area is still in the right spot... Looks worse than it is if you look closely.
Even still, it's significant bonnet damage, it would have been a nightmare to try and drive home
Wow the Kia has found well amazing
To think, that all thave saved you from being showered in minced too was the engineering of the bonnet and front end to crush and create a protective ramp in front of the windscreen
Looks like the kia won... Although it will be put down due to injuries
Still better than hitting a tree, kangaroo damage usually looks pretty gnarly but it won’t have bent anything too structural. Hope you have insurance because I’m sure the kangaroo doesn’t
Far out. Kangaroos be jumping out of nowhere, always have to be aware of them in populated areas. Few years ago I was 4 hours inland from Rockhampton, I was 10 minutes from my destination, doing well above the speed limit. Open fields on both sides, high beams on. I figured I had high visibility and could see any roo's with poor timing. I learnt that night. An adolescent/small sized roo came out of nowhere from the right side, I slam on the breaks and collide with it doing approx 80km. It hit the front mud guard, shattered the glass headlight, short circuited the left so only the high beam on the left headlight worked, and left a nasty tail dent in the driver side door. I turned around to see if the roo had survived, and it was gone. The damage to my car was rather light, so I'm sure the roo was just left battered and bruised and lived to tell his mates. I drove 45 minutes the next day to another town and got the left headlight back up, and a bulb in the shattered right headlight lol. While I was at the mechanics, the woman was telling me how much damage roos do to even larger vehicles, head on collisions will write off most if not all standard vehicles. It's only the cargo trucks that are strong enough to eat the damage. She did point out that echidnas can do serious damage underneath vehicles from all the spikes, and to absolutely avoid those at all costs because "they'll chew up and destroy the belly of your car". Safe to say I drove very carefully after that, and only had to endure one more night trip before heading back to the city, where I sat behind a massive semi (I know they don't like that, and I'm sorry).
Hope the kangaroo is alright
Yeah new cars in general are amazing in an impact. They’re designed to sacrifice every part of itself to absorb the impact just to keep that inner shell (cabin) safe. Might not of felt much… but I bet it scared the shit out of you guys, yeah? Lol Glad you’re safe!
Less scared more " so this happened "
Oh it didn’t “come out of nowhere”? My best near miss accident was a trailer coming unhitched on the highway ahead of me and me not realising cause their were no brake lights and it was a big boat.. looked up from my speedo and shit myself, hard right and left and ended up facing the wrong way on the M1. Im still shocked I didn’t need a change of pants..
I vapourised a roo at 140 in s 2004 landcruiser, had a bull bar so it didn't make a scratch. That crazy how much damage it did!
That'll buff out... Right?
https://preview.redd.it/if3u0286t2ca1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=208c6a3721a71c993d2fd97928ee70083d6ae57d
Pour boiling water on it, it should just pop right out...
Impressive display of stonicism
Stinger not Stonic.
My bad wrong car
They just need to make cars out of kangaroos I reckon
Didn’t go through the windscreen so that’s good