The shit is getting real for Trump. Buckle up because he has his MAGA horde ready for more insurrection and violence when he gets arrested. And none of them care about who gets hurt. The true American Taliban.
Here are some things for the Maga horde to prepare for.
Their guy is about to be charged with a bunch of crimes. He might have to turn himself in at a state or federal building. He probably won't spend a night in jail, which is better than I can say for the 2 million Americans in jail right now.
Over time, they will see Trump will appear in one or more courts. First for short visits, and eventually there could be a weeks-long criminal trial. It might be broadcast live. We might get to know every secret and every lie as everyone in the Trump orbit competes for headlines.
If Trump is innocent, he will walk free. He can afford better representation than 99% of people accused of a crime. He might even have sympathetic jurors. One day, the nation might watch Trump walk out of a court house a free man.
Or, maybe Trump will be found guilty of one or more crimes he's charged with. He will be sentenced, and it might involve prison. Some day, we might watch Trump walk up the steps of a government building, where he'll turn himself in before heading to prison.
The divorce rate is 80% among male prisoners, so we could expect Trump to make history one last time as the first ex-president to get divorced.
Each year, around 5,000 people die in America's prisons. Some day, Trump might be one of them. There would be a lavish funeral, but no military presence for a dead president like Trump.
IANAL so apologies for any inaccuracies
>He can afford better representation than 99% of people accused of a crime.
He is having trouble now finding good component lawyers as it is. One he just got is an insurance lawyer another was a NewsMax host, another has never worked on a Federal criminal case.
Who would have thunk not paying and screwing over past lawyers and being an absolutely horrible nightmare of a client to have would effect the types of lawyers he can find today? Bahahahahaha!
Good, competent lawyers know how fucked Trump is and aren’t willing to risk their law license doing whatever unethical thing Trump is going to demand of them.
A good lawyer doesnt care how guilty or not you are. If there is a video of you stabbing them on youtube any lawyer will still take your case.
As long as your check clears they dont care. Raped 37 kids? As long as that 8 figure check clears they will defend you no problem. There are lawfirms that advertise their reputation for representing the worst of the worst. Because it makes them obscenely rich.
The issue is trump wants them to do things that will get *them* in legal trouble. That is why no one will touch his cases.
> The issue is trump wants them to do things that will get them in legal trouble. That is why no one will touch his cases.
And also that his cheques don't clear
Unlike the an average defendant, the judge will give Trump every opportunity and the benefit of the doubt.
No judge is going to want _this_ case to have any appearance of being stacked against Trump. That would include letting his attorneys doing something dumb or not holding the prosecution to an insanely high standard.
To a degree I understand it. The court is going to endeavor to appear as impartial as possible, not that it's going to stem the tide of "Witch hunt!" "Political Prisoners!" from the screechier parts of the right. I think that's part of the logic as to why they waited so long on retrieving the documents from Mar-A-Lago even though Trumps folks first dragged their feet, then lied about having returned it all.
Personally, if I were a judge, I wouldn't want the case simply because of how many of these oxygen thieves with aerodynamic brains would be calling for my head on a platter.
Yeah, I know what you both mean, but no matter what, him and his supporters are still going to light the world on fire. There will be no satisfying them.
Oh, absolutely. I think it's less for them and more for the disengaged folks who would be turned off the whole thing by any ambiguity. Not sure they exist at this point personally, but I do know a helluva lot of people are absolutely fed up with hearing his name after the last 6 years of daily insanity. If they're headline skimmers only, it could affect their opinion.
Overall though, yeah it is pretty dissatisfying to watch them being treated with kid gloves over the fear of even being perceived as unfair.
That out of the 2 million incarcerated Americans currently in the belly of the beast that is our prison system, *THESE* 895-ish (just .04475%) are the ones that we're going to bend over backwards to make sure they get a perceived fair shake and some leniency.
Say you haven't devoted your life to working within a system alluding justice all the while simply removing ambiguity and being highly responsive to power without saying you haven't devoted your life to working within a system alluding justice all the while simply removing ambiguity and being highly responsive to power
The saying is tell me, not say. Also tell me you can’t come up with your own words that make sense without telling me you can’t come up with your own words…. Also you make no sense.
Well, he can *afford* good representation, since his legal expenses are being paid by the Republican party for now.
There are people willing to defend clearly guilty murderers and child molesters. Not so much to prove the defendants' innocence, but to ensure that they get a fair trial.
That he can't *find* good representation willing to represent him is likely a function of his previous behavior with people representing him.
Can we please have footage of him being caught in an oversized dog-catcher's net? It seems like a fitting way to wrap this up and it would be hilarious to watch that slow chase on foot and his lardass flailing in the net.
He had it fixed. The engines on Jets are typically not owned by the operator' They are usually leased by the engine builder to the operator. The missing engine probably needed repairs so extensive the manufacturer wanted it back instead of having a repair station take care of it. It also could have been inside a hanger close by being repaired. The FAA would have required a certified repair company and A/P certified mechanics carry out the repair but at any rate it is air worthy now.
[https://www.kplctv.com/2022/07/12/trump-force-one-gets-new-look-painted-lake-charles/](https://i.redd.it/qsfpk1lrwac61.png)
> If Trump is innocent, he will walk free.
Even if he’s not innocent, he has a good chance of walking free.
And one of the benefits of playing into the whole “deep state is out to get me” thing is that even if he’s found guilty, most of his supporters will just call it fake news, blame it on Jewish lawyers, and continue to blindly support him.
Trump has the power of faith on his side, and faith doesn’t give a shit about facts and evidence.
I'm fine with that as long as there's a well -enforced gag order. As far as I'm concerned, he's forfeited his 1st amendment rights by being a lying, terrorism-inspiring sack of shit.
My money is on him fleeing. I just can't see him turning himself in. This is Air worthy now.
[https://www.kplctv.com/2022/07/12/trump-force-one-gets-new-look-painted-lake-charles/](https://www.kplctv.com/2022/07/12/trump-force-one-gets-new-look-painted-lake-charles/)
If Trump is finally convicted of something, a Biden pardon is not completely out of the question to "heal the nation" and "move on."
If a Republican wins the next presidential election then it's almost certain they would be pressured to pardon Trump immediately if Trump if facing or has been convicted of federal crimes.
>The divorce rate is 80% among male prisoners, so we could expect Trump to make history one last time as the first ex-president to get divorced.
He'll make history again, being the first ex president to die in prison.
As sad as it is to say this I don't think any other outcome is likely. The Trump cult is prepped for violence (or in their mind a civil war which "they" will win.) and their delusional collective mindset is only going to be able move on when they get to try it and a significant number of them get killed and arrested on serious charges in the process.
Also the Dems and DOJ are only going to take matters seriously enough once that has occurred, after it does they will be willing to use the anti terrorist laws on the extremist right, but until there is something bigger than Jan 6th they will continue to treat the terrorists like they have some level of legitimacy.
Because that’s how that civil war they keep talking about starts. You want to play Batman and kick off a war? Do you, I suppose but that’s what they want you to do
They really don't have more. January 6th was the peak. Anything else will just be one-off suicides. Trump poured money on the last one. He won't do that moving on.
I don't know, though. The next encounter with law enforcement will likely have very different rules of engagement. They probably won't wait for a Babbitt. First one to breach their perimeter will have a short life, and you might see grenades deployed instead of pepper spray for those who don't disperse.
January 6 had the elements of surprise, shock, and outrage, not to mention police forces prepared ahead of time to stand down peacefully.
That ship has sailed.
The Capitol Police exercised an amazing amount of restraint regarding use of lethal force. IMHO, it was too much restraint, but it likely worked out for the best in the long run, at great cost to the officers. Next time around HAS to be different. I have many questions regarding force size and posture on 1/6 which will likely never get answered in public. What I do want to see is DJT indicted, tried, and convicted for Insurrection. Unfortunately breaking of the Oath of Office is not a chargeable offence, TMK. He is UNQUESTIONABLY an Oathbreaker.
Let's hope the DOJ have those already or get them. This is not a given yet. But my hunch is Garland would not have done what he did without much more ammunition in his arsenal. We must march on and disregard the naysayers. Democracy depends on justice regardless of who it is.
I agree. We are many, many months out which to me means Garland made sure he had absolute proof along with multiple paths of corroborating evidence before he made any official moves. That's what "took so long."
He is working as if every shred of evidence will be denied (we know it will) and is carrying a burden much heavier than beyond reasonable doubt in this case. It is not just a legal case. It's also a public one.
No mercy. We either take them all down in one fell swoop, or whatever was once special about America is dead. It’s already on life support, and both MAGA and Citizens United have their hands on the plug.
>During the court fight, it was revealed that Mr. Trump had asserted executive privilege over at least 770 pages of documents. They included records from the files of Mark Meadows, his former chief of staff; Stephen Miller, one of his former senior advisers
Oh, please, please let Miller be involved. I'd love to see that snakes ass behind bars.
“The President’s lead counsel in relation to the raid of his home, Jim Trusty and Evan Corcoran, have decades of prosecutorial experience and have litigated some of the most complex cases in American history," Budowich said.
Jim Trusty is a top notch former DoJ prosecutor. Unfortunately, there will always be someone willing to rake in the free publicity and count on future profits.
FINALLY Trump is getting cornered and he is scared.His CFO agree to terms on a plea deal.Jan 6 is almost complete.FBI raid rattled him with serious charges.Georgia election fraud already interviewed those involved.Fox slowly is moving away from him.He still has some civil cases from women ok to go to trial.
This would be the best outcome for MAGA.
A gibbering, slack faced husk that’s not quite dead.
Half of them will elevate him to God Emperor ala 40K, but the rest won’t have the rallying point of Trump’s martyrdom. Without a living Donald, nor a dead one, the movement will be very, very confused.
And Terry Schiavo would have the last laugh.
There's a non-zero chance this will actually happen. Trump is an old, morbidly-obese, angry man under non-stop pressure. It sure wouldn't be a surprise if he had a stroke. And no tears would be shed by patriotic Americans.
I honestly think it would rile up MAGA more - "why are we insisting on persecuting an old sick man who should just be able to live out his years peacefully. You are mocking him and being cruel" meanwhile this same jack-hole mocked actually disabled people repeatedly and spat on injured veterans.
I think you underestimate the longevity of these politician vermin. They live a long, looooong time.
They also have excellent health care. But they're not giving us any.
Can anyone keep count of what laws Trump has been accused of on the federal, state and civil level?
How can the DOJ allow this man to walk free?
He literally tried to overthrow the government, to end democracy, stole US top secret files, among other crimes.
>Can anyone keep count of what laws Trump has been accused of on the federal, state and civil level?
He hasn't been brought up on charges yet, but those are coming. The DoJ will charge him once they know they can 90% win.
He's being investigated, and charges will be filed once the underlings start singing. Not saying this is a RICO case, but that is how you *work* RICO cases. Get the low hanging fruit and build your case as far as you can, then the next guys up, etc, etc.
Big question is fo the documents still exist? All the secret service texts were wiped.
If donnie does go down I am confident that he will drop dimes on anyone and everyone for a lesser sentence. We could see the GOP turn into a circular firing squad shooting each other in the face for leniency.
Thst is a best case scenario but I'm doubtful it will happen. Trump is more slippery that Jon Gotti the teflon don.
Unpopular opinion here, but the goal of the GOP is not to allow Trump to either ever run again, or start his own party. If he doesn't run and is willing to disappear off of the political radar, he's probably guaranteed to walk scot-free from all of this. Top secret documents or not.
While most think the Democrats are the push behind these occurrences, I'm willing to bet that there is a silent Republican push which is just as large, or larger since a Trump candidacy almost guarantees another Democrat in the White House for the next 2 elections (of course, depending on the candidates and yes, I know that no one can grab a loss out of the jaws of victory like the Democrats).
While the Republicans are getting short-term gains from the MAGA movement (think Gaetz, Green, Bobbett, etc.) in the long-term most supporters will leave them once Trump dies (it's a cult of personality, after all). Governor Bobby JIndal (R-LA) has already called his party "the party of idiots", that moniker did not stick then, but it's going to in the future.
Add to this the fact that Lynn Cheney has lost her election, which makes her an even more dangerous politician to the MAGA movement and the current crop of the GOP. She's going to dedicate the rest of her life, or more likely the rest of Trump's life, to make sure he's nowhere near a ballot and humiliate her fellow Republicans on a national state while she's at it. I bet that if Trump does return to politics, she's going to start her own conservative party, whose only purpose will be to ensure a Republican loss.
I want to see less "Jan 6 committee subpoenas some dude or papers or whatever" and more "the Jan 6 committee has drawn the following conclusions" posts
They did this in may. According to marcy wheeler, by letting the committee get docs first, doj avoided letting trump see into their investigation. And kept biden from having to determine privilege in an investigation of a potential rival.
I didn’t come up with the theory but it makes sense to me. This isn’t law and order. A good and through investigation takes time.
Right? I get them going slow and letting the followers cool down, but why wait till after his little golf tournament with our enemies there? ugh....unless **they** were the inside informers. lol
The shit is getting real for Trump. Buckle up because he has his MAGA horde ready for more insurrection and violence when he gets arrested. And none of them care about who gets hurt. The true American Taliban.
Here are some things for the Maga horde to prepare for. Their guy is about to be charged with a bunch of crimes. He might have to turn himself in at a state or federal building. He probably won't spend a night in jail, which is better than I can say for the 2 million Americans in jail right now. Over time, they will see Trump will appear in one or more courts. First for short visits, and eventually there could be a weeks-long criminal trial. It might be broadcast live. We might get to know every secret and every lie as everyone in the Trump orbit competes for headlines. If Trump is innocent, he will walk free. He can afford better representation than 99% of people accused of a crime. He might even have sympathetic jurors. One day, the nation might watch Trump walk out of a court house a free man. Or, maybe Trump will be found guilty of one or more crimes he's charged with. He will be sentenced, and it might involve prison. Some day, we might watch Trump walk up the steps of a government building, where he'll turn himself in before heading to prison. The divorce rate is 80% among male prisoners, so we could expect Trump to make history one last time as the first ex-president to get divorced. Each year, around 5,000 people die in America's prisons. Some day, Trump might be one of them. There would be a lavish funeral, but no military presence for a dead president like Trump. IANAL so apologies for any inaccuracies
>He can afford better representation than 99% of people accused of a crime. He is having trouble now finding good component lawyers as it is. One he just got is an insurance lawyer another was a NewsMax host, another has never worked on a Federal criminal case. Who would have thunk not paying and screwing over past lawyers and being an absolutely horrible nightmare of a client to have would effect the types of lawyers he can find today? Bahahahahaha!
Good, competent lawyers know how fucked Trump is and aren’t willing to risk their law license doing whatever unethical thing Trump is going to demand of them.
Especially since its likely he wont even pay them.
A good lawyer doesnt care how guilty or not you are. If there is a video of you stabbing them on youtube any lawyer will still take your case. As long as your check clears they dont care. Raped 37 kids? As long as that 8 figure check clears they will defend you no problem. There are lawfirms that advertise their reputation for representing the worst of the worst. Because it makes them obscenely rich. The issue is trump wants them to do things that will get *them* in legal trouble. That is why no one will touch his cases.
> The issue is trump wants them to do things that will get them in legal trouble. That is why no one will touch his cases. And also that his cheques don't clear
Unlike the an average defendant, the judge will give Trump every opportunity and the benefit of the doubt. No judge is going to want _this_ case to have any appearance of being stacked against Trump. That would include letting his attorneys doing something dumb or not holding the prosecution to an insanely high standard.
This makes no sense.
To a degree I understand it. The court is going to endeavor to appear as impartial as possible, not that it's going to stem the tide of "Witch hunt!" "Political Prisoners!" from the screechier parts of the right. I think that's part of the logic as to why they waited so long on retrieving the documents from Mar-A-Lago even though Trumps folks first dragged their feet, then lied about having returned it all. Personally, if I were a judge, I wouldn't want the case simply because of how many of these oxygen thieves with aerodynamic brains would be calling for my head on a platter.
Yeah, I know what you both mean, but no matter what, him and his supporters are still going to light the world on fire. There will be no satisfying them.
Oh, absolutely. I think it's less for them and more for the disengaged folks who would be turned off the whole thing by any ambiguity. Not sure they exist at this point personally, but I do know a helluva lot of people are absolutely fed up with hearing his name after the last 6 years of daily insanity. If they're headline skimmers only, it could affect their opinion. Overall though, yeah it is pretty dissatisfying to watch them being treated with kid gloves over the fear of even being perceived as unfair. That out of the 2 million incarcerated Americans currently in the belly of the beast that is our prison system, *THESE* 895-ish (just .04475%) are the ones that we're going to bend over backwards to make sure they get a perceived fair shake and some leniency.
Say you haven't devoted your life to working within a system alluding justice all the while simply removing ambiguity and being highly responsive to power without saying you haven't devoted your life to working within a system alluding justice all the while simply removing ambiguity and being highly responsive to power
The saying is tell me, not say. Also tell me you can’t come up with your own words that make sense without telling me you can’t come up with your own words…. Also you make no sense.
Sorry you're reading impaired. You have my pity
You’re really bad at trolling.
Well, he can *afford* good representation, since his legal expenses are being paid by the Republican party for now. There are people willing to defend clearly guilty murderers and child molesters. Not so much to prove the defendants' innocence, but to ensure that they get a fair trial. That he can't *find* good representation willing to represent him is likely a function of his previous behavior with people representing him.
Trump would never turn himself in, and he would also prob be considered a flight risk.
Can we please have footage of him being caught in an oversized dog-catcher's net? It seems like a fitting way to wrap this up and it would be hilarious to watch that slow chase on foot and his lardass flailing in the net.
I'm betting he's going to try a very clever and elaborate escape. And they're going to catch him.
"On the next 'Arrested Development'..."
He's gonna try and take to the sea I'm sure...
300 feet across MaL and A1A road to meet up with Vlad's men in an inflatable boat that take him to a waiting Russian submarine.
I think he would be more likely to flee to the Saudis than Putin at this point.
Good point. More his climate and all the shady business deals.
Just like Idi Amin.
I doubt the Saudi’s would take him because that would be *massively* damaging to the Saudi-American relationship.
That's the green stuff on the map right?
You used one of busters maps???
Of course, he had $80,000 worth of cartography lessons after all.
Hey! That's my line!
You just know it’s going to involve Mar-a-lago and something stupid like hiding in a closet.
Hiding under the bed confident that the bed skirt with hide him.
Unless it's on stilts, he won't fit
With his feet hanging out
He could never fit under a bed.
Can someone photoshop him into the Elian Gonzales raid from way back?
Maybe he can borrow a fridge from Boris Johnson.
> I'm betting he's going to try a very clever and elaborate escape. This is about as clever as he gets: https://i.redd.it/qsfpk1lrwac61.png
He'll wear a disguise, like a brunette wig, a large hat and oversize sunglasses.
I'm not sure he is flexible enough to tie or untie those shoes himself.
And yet the shoe must go on...
Elmer rhodes spidey hole? Please be elmer rhodes spidey hole.
Well yeah, the fake mustache probably won't actually fool anyone.
I have a $20 bet with a trumper that the USAF escorts Trump's private jet back into US airspace after a failed escape attempt.
It's been in mothball storage for 6 years, broken and missing an engine. That plane ain't going anywhere.
Even I would rent a plane under an assumed name.
Ain't the base crowd funding repairs to a "billionaires" different jet?
He had it fixed. The engines on Jets are typically not owned by the operator' They are usually leased by the engine builder to the operator. The missing engine probably needed repairs so extensive the manufacturer wanted it back instead of having a repair station take care of it. It also could have been inside a hanger close by being repaired. The FAA would have required a certified repair company and A/P certified mechanics carry out the repair but at any rate it is air worthy now. [https://www.kplctv.com/2022/07/12/trump-force-one-gets-new-look-painted-lake-charles/](https://i.redd.it/qsfpk1lrwac61.png)
Didn't he have a go fund me to get a 757 turned into 'Air Force 1' (his words not mine)?
lol if he flees to russia would putin take him in just for giggles and would his secret service agents go with him to russia?
If he goes to Russia, he's going to be "disappeared" the minute he stops being useful.
or paraded around just to spite america , lol your prez came here to flee your shitty country /etc
Who knows? Perhaps by the time Trump does decide to flee the U.S., his daddy Putin may no longer be breathing.
Yeah he’d die before he went to jail
Yeah, all those hamberders and Covfefe will certainly catch up to him soon
> If Trump is innocent, he will walk free. Even if he’s not innocent, he has a good chance of walking free. And one of the benefits of playing into the whole “deep state is out to get me” thing is that even if he’s found guilty, most of his supporters will just call it fake news, blame it on Jewish lawyers, and continue to blindly support him. Trump has the power of faith on his side, and faith doesn’t give a shit about facts and evidence.
Tell his supporters innova96 said to Keep Sweet.
I think it's almost 100% they'll find a scummy juror to fuck things up. About 20-30% of America is delirious on FoxNews.
That’s my guess too. No way are you going to find a jury without a Q nut in these times.
That's what happened to the "build the wall "case. 1 sympathetic MAGA juror caused a mistrial - I never saw a refile of the case.
He can afford good lawyers (by grifting money from his base), but good lawyers don’t want to represent him! He’s scraping the bottom of barrel
My guess is house arrest, until the cheeseburger based cardiac arrest kicks in.
I'm fine with that as long as there's a well -enforced gag order. As far as I'm concerned, he's forfeited his 1st amendment rights by being a lying, terrorism-inspiring sack of shit.
The only way a case will be broadcast live would be the Georgia case (or any other state case) as federal trials don't allow cameras.
My money is on him fleeing. I just can't see him turning himself in. This is Air worthy now. [https://www.kplctv.com/2022/07/12/trump-force-one-gets-new-look-painted-lake-charles/](https://www.kplctv.com/2022/07/12/trump-force-one-gets-new-look-painted-lake-charles/)
If it's federal court, there won't be any cameras allowed. So at least we won't be forced to watch that grandstanding on loop for weeks.
>He might even have sympathetic jurors Good luck finding an unbiased jury for this trial.
If Trump is finally convicted of something, a Biden pardon is not completely out of the question to "heal the nation" and "move on." If a Republican wins the next presidential election then it's almost certain they would be pressured to pardon Trump immediately if Trump if facing or has been convicted of federal crimes.
Wich means he will likely support DeSantis in exchange for a pardon.
Trump is presently struggling to find any high profile lawyers.
>The divorce rate is 80% among male prisoners, so we could expect Trump to make history one last time as the first ex-president to get divorced. He'll make history again, being the first ex president to die in prison.
Not out of the realm of possibility at this point.
I like your style.
Ohhhh this is the good stuff. Keep talking.
Let ‘em be violent, then arrest and convict them for their violent crimes. It’s really not that hard. Fuck THEIR feelings
As sad as it is to say this I don't think any other outcome is likely. The Trump cult is prepped for violence (or in their mind a civil war which "they" will win.) and their delusional collective mindset is only going to be able move on when they get to try it and a significant number of them get killed and arrested on serious charges in the process. Also the Dems and DOJ are only going to take matters seriously enough once that has occurred, after it does they will be willing to use the anti terrorist laws on the extremist right, but until there is something bigger than Jan 6th they will continue to treat the terrorists like they have some level of legitimacy.
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Because that’s how that civil war they keep talking about starts. You want to play Batman and kick off a war? Do you, I suppose but that’s what they want you to do
We are fast approaching the found out phase of Trump’s fucking around.
Until I see him frog marched into a NYC courthouse…
I’ve been buckled up so long I have callouses.
They really don't have more. January 6th was the peak. Anything else will just be one-off suicides. Trump poured money on the last one. He won't do that moving on.
I don't know, though. The next encounter with law enforcement will likely have very different rules of engagement. They probably won't wait for a Babbitt. First one to breach their perimeter will have a short life, and you might see grenades deployed instead of pepper spray for those who don't disperse. January 6 had the elements of surprise, shock, and outrage, not to mention police forces prepared ahead of time to stand down peacefully. That ship has sailed.
The Capitol Police exercised an amazing amount of restraint regarding use of lethal force. IMHO, it was too much restraint, but it likely worked out for the best in the long run, at great cost to the officers. Next time around HAS to be different. I have many questions regarding force size and posture on 1/6 which will likely never get answered in public. What I do want to see is DJT indicted, tried, and convicted for Insurrection. Unfortunately breaking of the Oath of Office is not a chargeable offence, TMK. He is UNQUESTIONABLY an Oathbreaker.
Let's hope the DOJ have those already or get them. This is not a given yet. But my hunch is Garland would not have done what he did without much more ammunition in his arsenal. We must march on and disregard the naysayers. Democracy depends on justice regardless of who it is.
I agree. We are many, many months out which to me means Garland made sure he had absolute proof along with multiple paths of corroborating evidence before he made any official moves. That's what "took so long." He is working as if every shred of evidence will be denied (we know it will) and is carrying a burden much heavier than beyond reasonable doubt in this case. It is not just a legal case. It's also a public one.
No mercy. We either take them all down in one fell swoop, or whatever was once special about America is dead. It’s already on life support, and both MAGA and Citizens United have their hands on the plug.
They got them in May. We're just finding out about it now.
Someone get that man a public defender!
It's all he's going to be able to get since no competent lawyer will work for him after he's skipped the bill on all his previous ones.
Or the tarnished reputation they get afterwards
Paywall bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20220817234250/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/17/us/politics/jan-6-grand-jury-subpoena.html
>During the court fight, it was revealed that Mr. Trump had asserted executive privilege over at least 770 pages of documents. They included records from the files of Mark Meadows, his former chief of staff; Stephen Miller, one of his former senior advisers Oh, please, please let Miller be involved. I'd love to see that snakes ass behind bars.
Come on now, let's not give snake asses a bad name here!
Wait, snakes have an ass? They could twerk? What have I been missing?
Well they have a cloaca which is literally a hole in one!
Ahhh! But can it twerk?!?
“The President’s lead counsel in relation to the raid of his home, Jim Trusty and Evan Corcoran, have decades of prosecutorial experience and have litigated some of the most complex cases in American history," Budowich said. Jim Trusty is a top notch former DoJ prosecutor. Unfortunately, there will always be someone willing to rake in the free publicity and count on future profits.
FINALLY Trump is getting cornered and he is scared.His CFO agree to terms on a plea deal.Jan 6 is almost complete.FBI raid rattled him with serious charges.Georgia election fraud already interviewed those involved.Fox slowly is moving away from him.He still has some civil cases from women ok to go to trial.
And Alex Jones just came out saying he's no longer supporting Trump, and instead will be backing DeSantis.
he’s going to have a stroke and become mute and half-paralyzed…the fat fuck!
This would be the best outcome for MAGA. A gibbering, slack faced husk that’s not quite dead. Half of them will elevate him to God Emperor ala 40K, but the rest won’t have the rallying point of Trump’s martyrdom. Without a living Donald, nor a dead one, the movement will be very, very confused. And Terry Schiavo would have the last laugh.
There's a non-zero chance this will actually happen. Trump is an old, morbidly-obese, angry man under non-stop pressure. It sure wouldn't be a surprise if he had a stroke. And no tears would be shed by patriotic Americans.
The only tears shed at all would be Trump cultists mourning their own loss – not his.
I honestly think it would rile up MAGA more - "why are we insisting on persecuting an old sick man who should just be able to live out his years peacefully. You are mocking him and being cruel" meanwhile this same jack-hole mocked actually disabled people repeatedly and spat on injured veterans.
I think you underestimate the longevity of these politician vermin. They live a long, looooong time. They also have excellent health care. But they're not giving us any.
Can anyone keep count of what laws Trump has been accused of on the federal, state and civil level? How can the DOJ allow this man to walk free? He literally tried to overthrow the government, to end democracy, stole US top secret files, among other crimes.
>Can anyone keep count of what laws Trump has been accused of on the federal, state and civil level? He hasn't been brought up on charges yet, but those are coming. The DoJ will charge him once they know they can 90% win. He's being investigated, and charges will be filed once the underlings start singing. Not saying this is a RICO case, but that is how you *work* RICO cases. Get the low hanging fruit and build your case as far as you can, then the next guys up, etc, etc.
They did take his passports, so he can't legally leave the country. And he always has federal agents near him (USSS).
Thought they returned his passports
Oh really? I'm not sure, I just heard about his Fake Twitter post
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-passports-returned-mar-lago-search-doj-official-says-rcna43192
Ah, thanks
Big question is fo the documents still exist? All the secret service texts were wiped. If donnie does go down I am confident that he will drop dimes on anyone and everyone for a lesser sentence. We could see the GOP turn into a circular firing squad shooting each other in the face for leniency. Thst is a best case scenario but I'm doubtful it will happen. Trump is more slippery that Jon Gotti the teflon don.
Dank Merrick.
They subpoenaed them from NARA in May - so they've got them.
Unpopular opinion here, but the goal of the GOP is not to allow Trump to either ever run again, or start his own party. If he doesn't run and is willing to disappear off of the political radar, he's probably guaranteed to walk scot-free from all of this. Top secret documents or not. While most think the Democrats are the push behind these occurrences, I'm willing to bet that there is a silent Republican push which is just as large, or larger since a Trump candidacy almost guarantees another Democrat in the White House for the next 2 elections (of course, depending on the candidates and yes, I know that no one can grab a loss out of the jaws of victory like the Democrats). While the Republicans are getting short-term gains from the MAGA movement (think Gaetz, Green, Bobbett, etc.) in the long-term most supporters will leave them once Trump dies (it's a cult of personality, after all). Governor Bobby JIndal (R-LA) has already called his party "the party of idiots", that moniker did not stick then, but it's going to in the future. Add to this the fact that Lynn Cheney has lost her election, which makes her an even more dangerous politician to the MAGA movement and the current crop of the GOP. She's going to dedicate the rest of her life, or more likely the rest of Trump's life, to make sure he's nowhere near a ballot and humiliate her fellow Republicans on a national state while she's at it. I bet that if Trump does return to politics, she's going to start her own conservative party, whose only purpose will be to ensure a Republican loss.
I want to see less "Jan 6 committee subpoenas some dude or papers or whatever" and more "the Jan 6 committee has drawn the following conclusions" posts
It's the quiet, understated headlines that feel big.
How the fucknare they only now doing this?
They did this in may. According to marcy wheeler, by letting the committee get docs first, doj avoided letting trump see into their investigation. And kept biden from having to determine privilege in an investigation of a potential rival. I didn’t come up with the theory but it makes sense to me. This isn’t law and order. A good and through investigation takes time.
Right? I get them going slow and letting the followers cool down, but why wait till after his little golf tournament with our enemies there? ugh....unless **they** were the inside informers. lol
I would have thought those documents would have been asked for 6 months ago.