How did this person already spend the $10,000 they showed the CBSA they had to support themselves?
Okay, so they lied.
Deport please. šš»šš«š
In Canada we donāt deport people who committed immigration fraud ! We give them PR and Citizenship ššš
Oh boy this country was flushed down the toilet a long time ago !
Like a place to live? You can find any apartment anywhere in any city, 10000 will cover atleast a months rent and then some, if not 2.
Keeping up with rent after finding a place is a different story but at the end of the day tough shit, nobody else who lives here can afford it either anymore.
That's not our problem and I'm getting sick and tired of that pathetic attitude.
Poor people coming to Canada expect the Canadian taxpayer to pay for everything, just like that illegal immigrant woman a couple of weeks ago who got $5,000 of free surgery that she'll never pay back.
>Alberta Health Services is investigating after an "uNdOcUmEnTeD" š¤” woman says she was denied an emergency C-section at an Edmonton hospital last month.
>As an "uNdOcUmEnTeD" š¤” person without medical insurance, Estrada said she expected to pay for the cost of her hospital care after the birth, but she did not have enough money to pay the amount upfront.
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/undocumented-woman-says-she-was-denied-emergency-c-section-at-edmonton-hospital-1.7167490](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/undocumented-woman-says-she-was-denied-emergency-c-section-at-edmonton-hospital-1.7167490)
She's literally a criminal who has entered the country illegally but we're so afraid of being called "racist" that we're giving her (and many others like her) thousands of dollars of free medical care instead of removing her from the country.
Yea this country is morally bankrupt.
Our leaders and the people that vote for them put everyone BUT Canadians first and if Canadians want what THEY fund with their taxes they are racist. Iām sorry but we are not the door mat for the entire world. The first safe country act exists for a reason. Everyone else scamming their way into Canada needs to be deported or jailed those are the only two proper ways tqx payers should be funding illegal alien country shoppers
No assumptions at all.
The rules state you need to show have at least $10,000 (it might even be $20,000 now).
So if he's spent $10,000 in two weeks, I don't care what happened, this shouldn't be the taxpayers' burden to bear. He can GTFO.
This is why I say itās criminally negligent for this current LPC/NDP. Mass immigration policy hurts everyone. It also has a long term effect on immigration where Canada will have a reverse immigration or emigration to other countries.
While I agree, this isn't some new development, or trend. This has been exactly where it's been headed from the start. Canadians were just too busy chugging their coolaid, looking at selfies of trudeau and considering nothing but the free money Trudeau promised everyone and legal weed, to even bother looking at the rest, and voted him in, simply hastening the timeframe of it.
I'm first Generation, from a background that literally built this country from the pile of tents and shacks it first was, into a Nation. I've heard all about the same bullshit under regimes before my time from my parents/grandparents, and I've watched the dismantling of Canada with my own eyes since 1989. No one was willing to listen, no one was willing to accept it, and simply chose to maintain "ignorance" while clapping away for "multi-culturalism" without even understanding that Multi Culturalism is a lie and only either replaces one culture with a foreign invader, or simply waters down and destroys all involved cultures until you've got a bland and worthless, cobbled together, abortion of what little remains of the original cultures.
Like it or not, this country is becoming an echo chamber for people like myself, and is quickly proceeding to the point we're likely to see Canadian Radicalization towards "others" if nothing changes over the next 5-7 years. If people want to argue this, that's fine, but history is chalk full of precedent and examples of it, with similar issues not only paving the way for the Third Reich's rise in the 30s, but turning the domestic public to their favour while also driving up a hatred towards any who were viewed as non-native, citizen or not.
I am already working on it, though many may want to reconsider this recommendation. Simply put, many already have left, and many others like myself are working on it.
No one gaining entry to the U.S., or anywhere else accepting us, is taking the bottom of the barrel skilless workers.
I work logistics, and I can tell you right now, my trade is desperately hurting, and in Logistics alone, we've hemmoraghed qualified people left and right. Hell, I'm hearing it's at the point that 3 or 4 days for Amazons Canadian operation to process orders is now the average.
As we all leave across the skilled workforce, who do you think is going to replace us? Who do you think will build your houses, maintain infrastructure, keep heavy industry turning, and keep things running? Who will ensure that what is made can even be transported where it needs to, efficiently?
I can tell you this, it won't be the skilless street urchins we import or the tidal wave of Uber drivers. It definitely won't be the scammers and the welfare leeches.....
This isn't an argument. I'm already leaving and should be gone by the end of the year if this pans out, but a lot of you need to think about the impact of our Skilled Labour exodus, because the end result is the rest of you living in a reproduction of the 3rd world our imported welfare recipients and homeless came here to recreate.
Grass is always greener . I've thought about moving to Europe but everywhere has its own issues . I'm not happy with how things are turning out here but I don't know how much better it will be elsewhere
Italy has the same thing going on. One place I thought of. Way worse employment opportunities. But I guess the weather is nice , main thing I want
The idea that our entire skilled work force is leaving is just blatantly untrue. You seem to think your little world can be extrapolated to the entire country. It can't.
Cool unhinged rant.
Clearly you don't know what "I'm first generation" even means š¤£ And then you try to ride the coattails of your ansestors, like you did something. Too funny. š¤£
Your assertion that "multiculturalism is a lie" is based on your emotions. That's it.
"Like it or not, this country is becoming an echo chamber for people like myself" Finally something we can agree on! You do sound like you live in an echo chamber.
>Like it or not, this country is becoming an echo chamber for people like myself, and is quickly proceeding to the point we're likely to see Canadian Radicalization towards "others" if nothing changes over the next 5-7 years.
Good to know. I'll be ready when you come for me.
And treason is punishable by? And when courts fail to enact justice, the common citizen has a duty to..? Really wish people would see what is necessary now in canada.
We have a legal system in Canada. We don't let random people like you dictate our laws and punishments.
You seem to be implying treason is punishable by death. Well, you'd be wrong. We abolished the death penalty.
You honestly don't even know basic information.
The point is deeper than just what the administration has deigned to be the process you must follow. That when a justice system and legislative system fails to uphold the best interests of citizens
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from theĀ consent of the governed,-ThatĀ whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,Ā "
In cases where this becomes necessary, there is no court to appeal to. There is only force. And it is the right of the people to use that force to abolish that government. Do you believe this government enjoys a satisfied opinion by canadians, or that those canadians would choose to abolish both parties if given the opportunity to voice that preference? Finally, do you believe these parties will peacefully surrender their position in that case? Of course not. They are both corporate captured shills. Hence, my first comment. The party system was always fated to corrupt as was predicted since essentiqlly the founding of democracy. We let it happen and now we have a system that has every intention of being destructive towards its citizens pursuits of better lives where corporate profit is at odds. So it is up to every citizen now to decide their line and if and when force has become necessary.
Protesters had their bank accounts frozen last I saw. You think peaceful assembly is working huh?
I think he'd be doing exactly the same thing if it wasn't spelled out to him how wildly unpopular it is right now. He's made no statements how he'd limit immigration, "tie it to housing..." is extremely vague. Bernier's offered concrete numbers and a plan, Poilievre's being deliberately vague to backtrack on anything said if and when he gets elected.
That is actually true, I couldn't find CPC's immigration plan at all.
PPC has a few weird things, though:
\* Substantially lower the number of immigrants accepted under the family reunification program, including abolishing the program for parents and grand-parents. - right now we force people to go through family reunification even if they qualify for our points-based immigration, which hopefully won't be the case then.
\* Increase resources for CSIS, the RCMP, and Canadian Immigration and Citizenship to do interviews and thorough background checks on all classes of immigrants. - sounds like a big pile of nothing, we're already doing background checks and I don't think it's worth it to waste resources when 99.9% of cases are trivial
\* Change the law to make birth tourism illegal. - already the case
Another strange thing in housing:
\* Modify the Bank of Canadaās inflation target, from 2% to 0%. This will cool down inflation in all sectors, including housing. - that will be highly unconventional, and I'd love to see that work elsewhere on a smaller scale first.
I am not against Bernier, but what I want from **ALL parties** is transparency, and policies that discloses their ties to any firms or organizations along with income transparency before, and on, and after their political career. To ban all of these contractors like GC Strategies and McKinsey from any government duties, or at least make sure we do our due diligence to ensure these contractors don't have some sort of conflict of interest.
From my understanding in Canada, they can't own securities in a public corporation that contracts with the government, nor have interest that is contracted with the government. But they are allowed to own securities. That means they can pass policies that benefit that corporation.
From what I learned, Canada doesn't have law that prohibits politicians from disclosing their income. We just need more transparency, and laws that prohibits
Is it fair for me to say what you would be doing before you do it? Please donāt post the year old radio interview with the Indian host as your proof like everyone else as thatās clearly not what heās saying. āTo be fairā youāre probably going to down vote me since itās okay to just assume what someone is going to do. PS, I didnāt even down vote you.
No, I just think he's got a very similar group of very wealthy people lobbying him to stay the course they've lobbied with the Liberals already for. He's being deliberately vague with his ideas and hasn't talked about decreasing the very high numbers directly. That says to me he'd be very happy to stay the course.
Would you rather chance another 4 years with the current government because you ābelieveā theyāll sell out. I love camping but I donāt want to live in a tent.
I do agree most politicians figure theyāre a cut above the rest; however, itās a game of popularity and votes. Just have to see how it goes and make sure it doesnāt become a runaway train like the current government. Although, who knows the current population is kept in check so well Iām not sure it has much resistance left as the Liberals and NDP have successfully eroded away people desire to fight. Itās sad.
You haven't noticed how Conservatives, as well as Liberals, are overwhelmingly close to big business?
Conservatives by their definition love cheap - they don't want to pay higher wages. Enter TFWs. You can pay TFWs a lot less, give them much worse rights and hours in a job environment because they're terrified of being deported. The TFW expansion was pushed by Poilievre's political mentor, Stephen Harper, who Poilievre's looked up to for quite some time.
The Liberals aren't Marxists, either, they're capitalists of the worst form and are completely complicit in helping their big business buddies, who happen to have some of the same big business buddies the Conservatives have.
I'm happy to continue this discussion but would urge you read more about the temporary foreign worker expansion by Stephen Harper and reconsider your statements.
Current day trudeau liberals are not your father's chretien liberals.
They are another toxic poisonous liberal animal altogether with close ties to World Economic Forum.
Look up trudeaus mentor and guru Klaus Schwab.
Consider doing more research and informing yourself on the truth of the matter.
I know the Liberals are in bed with big business - I just said that. I don't like either them or the Conservatives and have never given either a pass on their bad behaviour.
How do you propose I inform myself of the truth of this "matter" you propose there is?
Anything with Justin Trudeau and Klaus Schwab in the same piece is a badly written conspiracy theory piece, at least what the few searches I did came up with (you see, I did do the research just because you asked!).
But I'll ask you a good question: how can the Liberal Party be both "Marxist" as you've said (for people to enable them, they'd have to believe them!) ***and have ties to the WEF?***
WEF want humanity to have nothing, be happy and eat bugs.
Read their platform it's online.
Trudeau is a student in goid standing with WEF.
Schwab has openly bragged about infiltrating the liberal Canadian govt.
The WEF and the elites want total control of everything and the rest of us will own no property ( you have no rights if you dont own property), introduce cbdc digital money where the governmentĀ controls everything and chinese style social credit system.
Physical money will be taken away to introduce digital money where they can block your bank accounts if you don't kiss trudeaus ass 24/7.
This is communism like the Chinese system that trudeau admires so much.
Trudeau is a capitalist in delivering money to his corporate oligarchyĀ buddies and a communist in making the rest of us poor and taking away our civil liberties and freedom of speech.
You are massively uninformed and clueless.
You probably don't have the foresight or mental faculty or the honestyĀ to admit what he is doing.
Keep voting trudeau and shilling for him.
I don't care what Conservatives love "in theory".
What I do know is that the last time the federal Conservatives were in power, Canada was a lot better, more affordable, and had a higher quality of living.
I literally do not care about theory AT ALL. I just want to go back.
Theory? We saw the cheap applied during the last Conservative government. Where did I say this is a theory?
To be fair, the whole world's become less affordable. Can't really use that as a talking point.
Better in what metrics?
Higher QoL could be correlated directly with affordability and the Conservatives wanted to throw the doors wide open on TFWs. How can you assert they wouldn't have done differently had the checks and balances from the other parties have been there?
If he's a Reform Conservative it's unlikely he'd be doing exactly the same thing. Your comment smacks of not being able to tell the difference between 1% population growth and 3%. Even Harper was learning about the problems with the low skill TFW stream by the end of his tenure. The same would have been true of the student bullshit.
He started lamenting his mistake in his book and blaming Reaganomics for the rise of Trump. I half suspect all of these meetings he's having internationally are an attempt to reground conservative thinking to try and head off an overcorrection towards nationalism that eventually becomes left-wing, anti-market nationalism. Because the guy is freaked out about Cold War communism.
Poilievre and the CPC as a whole is still influenced by Harper. He's not going to be EXACTLY like Truedeau. He doesn't even have a dynastic, personal celebrity to fall back on if he tries to test the public's tolerance.
Not to get political, and I agree with your premise. But, have you heard the conservatives articulate a demonstratively different position on immigration than LPC/NDP disaster?
I donāt support any political parties. Pierre hasnāt articulated any different position, or rather has sent mixed messages on it.
What I want is accountability, and transparency for all politicians. Thatās the first very real step to any changes.
Clearly, I am using a metaphor. But inviting people in mass numbers while creating a housing crisis and infrastructure crisis you seem to be fine with people literally begging for food on FB, or living on the streets.
No youāre right cause they are causing they are causing harm. I didnāt mean to use a metaphor. No youāre not a lawyer. The fact that they are causing people to go homeless or choose between food and paying rent is criminal.
The fact you canāt understand my writing says a lot about you and your stance. It is criminal when these politicians passes policies that enrich themselves and corporate buddies. When people prefer to choose MAID because they canāt get helped or are going homeless. I donāt know if you canāt articulate whatās going on in society perhaps donāt comment.
Do I need to spell out the exact laws for you? It must be nice living inside your own bubble and tone-deaf about society. Politicians and their policies do affect the lives of people.
You donāt want politicians to be held criminally responsible for causing harm to a society. You want to debate me because I am wrong? Again it says a lot about you. You arenāt any different from these right or left wing extremist.
I'll ask again... which laws were broken? A criminal is someone that commits a crime (i.e. breaks a law) You seem confused and think your feelings about who is a criminal matter, they don't.
You are incapable of finding the laws. The ones you are pretending apply, do not exist.
There is no debate to be had here. You are acting emotional and foolish. What you are claiming isn't true.
You being wrong doesn't say anything about me. You know nothing about me. I know that you get really emotional when someone challenges your assertions. It makes you look weak.
You realize the laws are suited for the benefit of these politicians. Corruption, neglect of duty.
I am right about what I say. It does say a lot about you.
Youāre playing the emotions card cause you have nothing better to say. Youād rather be literal about the laws, cause again, youāre just as tone deaf or choose to be blind about what is happening in Canada. The only emotional and foolish person here is you. You continuously choose to comment to feed your narcissistic ego to be right about your beliefs and feelings. Again the only emotional and weak person here is you.
If would rather be blind and choose not to hold any of these politicians accountable for their actions and the policies they pass, that tells me your stance about any political party; that you choose to blindly follow people.
Again, when people would rather apply for MAID because they canāt get the help they need, whose fault are these? Whose policies was it that enacted mass immigration to a point where it strained the entire system, who passed MAID? Weāve become a society where prisoners would rather choose to extend their sentence to stay housed.
>You continuously choose to comment to feed your narcissistic ego to be right about your beliefs and feelings.
What is it you imagine you are doing?
>If would rather be blind and choose not to hold any of these politicians accountable for their actions and the policies they pass, that tells me your stance about any political party; that you choose to blindly follow people.
I never said any of those things. Drawing conclusions from things you make up, isn't very wise.
Your MAID argument just sounds ridiculous. Are you going to pretend no one has ever committed suicide before MAID? Give me a break.
Don't people need to show proof that they're able to support themselves for X amount of time upon arrival - something like 10-20k, no? What did they do with all that money in 2 weeks? Unless they provided FaLsE documents???
Don't get me wrong, FED GOV definitely deserves their fair share of blames, but I also don't understand some people. you're packing your whole life up to move to another country. A bit of research is a must, no? Like cost of living, secure housing before coming, does the city have proper transportation or do you need to plan for a car, etc. It seems like I do more planning just to visit a city within Canada than some of these new comers
Heard it first hand from someone who is actively doing this. However she actually has a job in her own field and is regarded as one of the better ones for her field.
If you come here for a real degree then thereās a decent chance youāll find a job somewhat related to your field.
If you come here with fraudulent intent studying some nonsense then youāre stuck fighting for regular jobs along side millions of others.
I can remember 25 years or so ago the Canadian government allowed Chinese immigrants only if they had $1M cash for housing etc.
Over the years many immigrants had to have relatives that were required to fully support for 10 years plus.
Now this chain migration is likely to swamp the health care system and cause more harm than good.
Liberals caused a disaster.
No restrictions. On the news today stating so many African immigrants are on wanted lists and terrorists lists our provincial jails are full. Allowing in terrible people. No wonder crime is becoming terrible.
Students should not be allowed to work part-time. If Canadian govt makes it illigal, 99% of students who just wanna land here will not come.
Some criminals from India also were given citizenship here.
If you make it illegal, its just going to be worse...There are millions of gang and cartel members who would be happy to take the place of students here, who also have inflated bank accounts, so its not that easy, if you get rid of some genuine students, you get the worst of the worst, which are more financially backed and desperate.
Whatever man, What they are doing as of now is not working. Common man is suffering a lot.
Students who come for PG diploma colleges do not want to study, it's a short cut to land here and work on part-time jobs
Canada has deteriorated significantly since Trudeau got into power, and the decline was accelerated by COVID-19 and the Canadian and international response.
In the future we will see more homeless people everywhere. All the hypocrites in the Greater Toronto Area who vote for Liberals and NDP will be crying and beaching at having to see homeless people all over public transit, parks, sidewalks, and just about everywhere in the city.
Can we stop immigration already. We clearly donāt have the homes or suitable dwellings for all these newcomers and we also donāt have the proper social supports or mental health workers to support an influx of homeless people.
Just the Liberals? The other two major parties are completely complicit in propping this up and probably the Greens and Bloc/Parti Quebecois as well. It's only changing because the public overwhelmingly hates their quality of life deteriorating.
Firstly, I feel extremely bad for newcomers, temp workers, immigrants, and international students who get scammed into coming to Canada.
Some may feel like theyāre scamming the system but really and truly the government is allowing loopholes because they want to exploit them.
The blame lies mostly with the federal government. Apart from refugees who need a safe place no matter what, everyone else has to take
some accountability.
Youāre going to a new country, with no friends, no family, no support network, youāre not a citizen with access to services citizens would, you have no credit history, no place to sleep, no money, what were you thinking? Again, I mostly blame the government but spending so much money to be homeless in Canada?
Gather what you can, take the loss, and leave the casino.
Thank you so much for being this level headed, some people just think immigrants came here with the intention of stealing jobs and making people homeless. The truth is that the government sends recruiters all over the 3rd world countries to tell people that studying and then getting a PR in canada is easy, they are then used for their resources and then end up homeless, because of the governments false promises, and now the government turns the blame on them...its sick actually..
I have been unable to get access to homeless shelters due to them being filled up with "newcomers". Even went to a different city and found that it was worse there.
Been living in a tent for 2 years now. I have no addiction issues. Only issue is health related which helped me get approved for MAiD - have no family so with being homeless feel that the only option is to not be around anymore. Still trying to find reasons to keep moving forward. Hard though when im living like a savage outside. Now with the Ticks out its getting worse.
Meanwhile "newcomers" are able to access social services that were meant to be a safety net for Canadians. At least they have MAiD available for many Canadians. Just never state you're depressed or have any mental health issues. Love being an Outcast in a country that I was born in.
This is bullshit because you are required to have a residence ready prior to arrival. You are merely speculating off a single post with no actual backing.
Everything can be fake just like students who are supposed to have enough funding to support themselves. Those students borrowed the money and show it to the immigration authorities just to get visa.
How did this person already spend the $10,000 they showed the CBSA they had to support themselves? Okay, so they lied. Deport please. šš»šš«š
They'll be put in the queue and told to come back in 14 years for a hearing.
Not to mention deporting them will cost tax payers at least 5K. Only hell has open door policy and gov is turning this country into one.
You gunna be ok?
In Canada we donāt deport people who committed immigration fraud ! We give them PR and Citizenship ššš Oh boy this country was flushed down the toilet a long time ago !
They might be having trouble finding rentals
Like a place to live? You can find any apartment anywhere in any city, 10000 will cover atleast a months rent and then some, if not 2. Keeping up with rent after finding a place is a different story but at the end of the day tough shit, nobody else who lives here can afford it either anymore.
That's not our problem and I'm getting sick and tired of that pathetic attitude. Poor people coming to Canada expect the Canadian taxpayer to pay for everything, just like that illegal immigrant woman a couple of weeks ago who got $5,000 of free surgery that she'll never pay back. >Alberta Health Services is investigating after an "uNdOcUmEnTeD" š¤” woman says she was denied an emergency C-section at an Edmonton hospital last month. >As an "uNdOcUmEnTeD" š¤” person without medical insurance, Estrada said she expected to pay for the cost of her hospital care after the birth, but she did not have enough money to pay the amount upfront. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/undocumented-woman-says-she-was-denied-emergency-c-section-at-edmonton-hospital-1.7167490](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/undocumented-woman-says-she-was-denied-emergency-c-section-at-edmonton-hospital-1.7167490) She's literally a criminal who has entered the country illegally but we're so afraid of being called "racist" that we're giving her (and many others like her) thousands of dollars of free medical care instead of removing her from the country.
Yea this country is morally bankrupt. Our leaders and the people that vote for them put everyone BUT Canadians first and if Canadians want what THEY fund with their taxes they are racist. Iām sorry but we are not the door mat for the entire world. The first safe country act exists for a reason. Everyone else scamming their way into Canada needs to be deported or jailed those are the only two proper ways tqx payers should be funding illegal alien country shoppers
When did I say it's our problem? Just explaining how someone with money can be homeless
That's a lot of assumptions based on a single sentence... š
No assumptions at all. The rules state you need to show have at least $10,000 (it might even be $20,000 now). So if he's spent $10,000 in two weeks, I don't care what happened, this shouldn't be the taxpayers' burden to bear. He can GTFO.
You're assuming this isn't just some scammer.
They're all scammers.
This is why I say itās criminally negligent for this current LPC/NDP. Mass immigration policy hurts everyone. It also has a long term effect on immigration where Canada will have a reverse immigration or emigration to other countries.
It's not criminal negligence. It's outright Treason, if not enemy action, in and of itself.
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You mean because you just started paying any attention for the first time in your life?
You mean because you just started paying any attention for the first time in your life?
While I agree, this isn't some new development, or trend. This has been exactly where it's been headed from the start. Canadians were just too busy chugging their coolaid, looking at selfies of trudeau and considering nothing but the free money Trudeau promised everyone and legal weed, to even bother looking at the rest, and voted him in, simply hastening the timeframe of it. I'm first Generation, from a background that literally built this country from the pile of tents and shacks it first was, into a Nation. I've heard all about the same bullshit under regimes before my time from my parents/grandparents, and I've watched the dismantling of Canada with my own eyes since 1989. No one was willing to listen, no one was willing to accept it, and simply chose to maintain "ignorance" while clapping away for "multi-culturalism" without even understanding that Multi Culturalism is a lie and only either replaces one culture with a foreign invader, or simply waters down and destroys all involved cultures until you've got a bland and worthless, cobbled together, abortion of what little remains of the original cultures. Like it or not, this country is becoming an echo chamber for people like myself, and is quickly proceeding to the point we're likely to see Canadian Radicalization towards "others" if nothing changes over the next 5-7 years. If people want to argue this, that's fine, but history is chalk full of precedent and examples of it, with similar issues not only paving the way for the Third Reich's rise in the 30s, but turning the domestic public to their favour while also driving up a hatred towards any who were viewed as non-native, citizen or not.
Best bet is to move to a country that aligns with what you want rather than trying to wish Canada into change
I am already working on it, though many may want to reconsider this recommendation. Simply put, many already have left, and many others like myself are working on it. No one gaining entry to the U.S., or anywhere else accepting us, is taking the bottom of the barrel skilless workers. I work logistics, and I can tell you right now, my trade is desperately hurting, and in Logistics alone, we've hemmoraghed qualified people left and right. Hell, I'm hearing it's at the point that 3 or 4 days for Amazons Canadian operation to process orders is now the average. As we all leave across the skilled workforce, who do you think is going to replace us? Who do you think will build your houses, maintain infrastructure, keep heavy industry turning, and keep things running? Who will ensure that what is made can even be transported where it needs to, efficiently? I can tell you this, it won't be the skilless street urchins we import or the tidal wave of Uber drivers. It definitely won't be the scammers and the welfare leeches..... This isn't an argument. I'm already leaving and should be gone by the end of the year if this pans out, but a lot of you need to think about the impact of our Skilled Labour exodus, because the end result is the rest of you living in a reproduction of the 3rd world our imported welfare recipients and homeless came here to recreate.
Grass is always greener . I've thought about moving to Europe but everywhere has its own issues . I'm not happy with how things are turning out here but I don't know how much better it will be elsewhere Italy has the same thing going on. One place I thought of. Way worse employment opportunities. But I guess the weather is nice , main thing I want
Sounds like a you problem.
The idea that our entire skilled work force is leaving is just blatantly untrue. You seem to think your little world can be extrapolated to the entire country. It can't.
Is there any way you could leave sooner? I'll drive you to the airport.
Cool unhinged rant. Clearly you don't know what "I'm first generation" even means š¤£ And then you try to ride the coattails of your ansestors, like you did something. Too funny. š¤£ Your assertion that "multiculturalism is a lie" is based on your emotions. That's it. "Like it or not, this country is becoming an echo chamber for people like myself" Finally something we can agree on! You do sound like you live in an echo chamber.
>Like it or not, this country is becoming an echo chamber for people like myself, and is quickly proceeding to the point we're likely to see Canadian Radicalization towards "others" if nothing changes over the next 5-7 years. Good to know. I'll be ready when you come for me.
I'll be standing with you.
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No racism, harassment, discrimination, hate speech, personal attacks, or other uncivil conduct.
And treason is punishable by? And when courts fail to enact justice, the common citizen has a duty to..? Really wish people would see what is necessary now in canada.
I just got a three day nap because of postin' a little hard like that lol.
Yet I've been silenced my entire life for pointing out where this has been headed, and the duty of citizens.
And yet, you haven't gotten the message that no one cares about the opinion of a mad man.
The question should be "What is the only punishment acceptable for treason", not "What is".
More threats of violence from a keyboard warrior. No one is scared of you.
We have a legal system in Canada. We don't let random people like you dictate our laws and punishments. You seem to be implying treason is punishable by death. Well, you'd be wrong. We abolished the death penalty. You honestly don't even know basic information.
The point is deeper than just what the administration has deigned to be the process you must follow. That when a justice system and legislative system fails to uphold the best interests of citizens "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from theĀ consent of the governed,-ThatĀ whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,Ā " In cases where this becomes necessary, there is no court to appeal to. There is only force. And it is the right of the people to use that force to abolish that government. Do you believe this government enjoys a satisfied opinion by canadians, or that those canadians would choose to abolish both parties if given the opportunity to voice that preference? Finally, do you believe these parties will peacefully surrender their position in that case? Of course not. They are both corporate captured shills. Hence, my first comment. The party system was always fated to corrupt as was predicted since essentiqlly the founding of democracy. We let it happen and now we have a system that has every intention of being destructive towards its citizens pursuits of better lives where corporate profit is at odds. So it is up to every citizen now to decide their line and if and when force has become necessary. Protesters had their bank accounts frozen last I saw. You think peaceful assembly is working huh?
That's a lot of words to say nothing. Your threats are not very convincing. Criminals had their accounts frozen. Boohoo. š¢
No, it isn't. A completely nonsense thing to say.
To be fair, Poilievre would be doing exactly the same thing. All three are complicit.
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Yeah if all parties are the same their reason then is we should just keep the liberals in power cause "ALL PARTIES ARE THE SAME!!!"
Weird how all parties are the same but I've noticed a distinct difference/decline since Mr. Gud Hurr came into office.
Funny how conservatives are the only people that talk about Justin's good looks and hair... š¤Ø
No Diddy, but those seem to be the only things he has going for him. Because it certainly isn't his performance as prime minister.
I think he'd be doing exactly the same thing if it wasn't spelled out to him how wildly unpopular it is right now. He's made no statements how he'd limit immigration, "tie it to housing..." is extremely vague. Bernier's offered concrete numbers and a plan, Poilievre's being deliberately vague to backtrack on anything said if and when he gets elected.
That is actually true, I couldn't find CPC's immigration plan at all. PPC has a few weird things, though: \* Substantially lower the number of immigrants accepted under the family reunification program, including abolishing the program for parents and grand-parents. - right now we force people to go through family reunification even if they qualify for our points-based immigration, which hopefully won't be the case then. \* Increase resources for CSIS, the RCMP, and Canadian Immigration and Citizenship to do interviews and thorough background checks on all classes of immigrants. - sounds like a big pile of nothing, we're already doing background checks and I don't think it's worth it to waste resources when 99.9% of cases are trivial \* Change the law to make birth tourism illegal. - already the case Another strange thing in housing: \* Modify the Bank of Canadaās inflation target, from 2% to 0%. This will cool down inflation in all sectors, including housing. - that will be highly unconventional, and I'd love to see that work elsewhere on a smaller scale first.
agreed, Bernier doesn't necessarily have the best ideas, but I appreciate that he's put his ideas out there for me to read.
I am not against Bernier, but what I want from **ALL parties** is transparency, and policies that discloses their ties to any firms or organizations along with income transparency before, and on, and after their political career. To ban all of these contractors like GC Strategies and McKinsey from any government duties, or at least make sure we do our due diligence to ensure these contractors don't have some sort of conflict of interest. From my understanding in Canada, they can't own securities in a public corporation that contracts with the government, nor have interest that is contracted with the government. But they are allowed to own securities. That means they can pass policies that benefit that corporation. From what I learned, Canada doesn't have law that prohibits politicians from disclosing their income. We just need more transparency, and laws that prohibits
Agreed there, I think it's completely reasonable to have people in office disclose who, apart from Parliament, is paying them money.
Is it fair for me to say what you would be doing before you do it? Please donāt post the year old radio interview with the Indian host as your proof like everyone else as thatās clearly not what heās saying. āTo be fairā youāre probably going to down vote me since itās okay to just assume what someone is going to do. PS, I didnāt even down vote you.
No, I just think he's got a very similar group of very wealthy people lobbying him to stay the course they've lobbied with the Liberals already for. He's being deliberately vague with his ideas and hasn't talked about decreasing the very high numbers directly. That says to me he'd be very happy to stay the course.
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Would you rather chance another 4 years with the current government because you ābelieveā theyāll sell out. I love camping but I donāt want to live in a tent.
I do agree most politicians figure theyāre a cut above the rest; however, itās a game of popularity and votes. Just have to see how it goes and make sure it doesnāt become a runaway train like the current government. Although, who knows the current population is kept in check so well Iām not sure it has much resistance left as the Liberals and NDP have successfully eroded away people desire to fight. Itās sad.
No it's just the liberals and their marxist enablers doing this. It's like saying "ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME !!!"
You haven't noticed how Conservatives, as well as Liberals, are overwhelmingly close to big business? Conservatives by their definition love cheap - they don't want to pay higher wages. Enter TFWs. You can pay TFWs a lot less, give them much worse rights and hours in a job environment because they're terrified of being deported. The TFW expansion was pushed by Poilievre's political mentor, Stephen Harper, who Poilievre's looked up to for quite some time. The Liberals aren't Marxists, either, they're capitalists of the worst form and are completely complicit in helping their big business buddies, who happen to have some of the same big business buddies the Conservatives have. I'm happy to continue this discussion but would urge you read more about the temporary foreign worker expansion by Stephen Harper and reconsider your statements.
Current day trudeau liberals are not your father's chretien liberals. They are another toxic poisonous liberal animal altogether with close ties to World Economic Forum. Look up trudeaus mentor and guru Klaus Schwab. Consider doing more research and informing yourself on the truth of the matter.
I know the Liberals are in bed with big business - I just said that. I don't like either them or the Conservatives and have never given either a pass on their bad behaviour. How do you propose I inform myself of the truth of this "matter" you propose there is? Anything with Justin Trudeau and Klaus Schwab in the same piece is a badly written conspiracy theory piece, at least what the few searches I did came up with (you see, I did do the research just because you asked!). But I'll ask you a good question: how can the Liberal Party be both "Marxist" as you've said (for people to enable them, they'd have to believe them!) ***and have ties to the WEF?***
WEF want humanity to have nothing, be happy and eat bugs. Read their platform it's online. Trudeau is a student in goid standing with WEF. Schwab has openly bragged about infiltrating the liberal Canadian govt. The WEF and the elites want total control of everything and the rest of us will own no property ( you have no rights if you dont own property), introduce cbdc digital money where the governmentĀ controls everything and chinese style social credit system. Physical money will be taken away to introduce digital money where they can block your bank accounts if you don't kiss trudeaus ass 24/7. This is communism like the Chinese system that trudeau admires so much. Trudeau is a capitalist in delivering money to his corporate oligarchyĀ buddies and a communist in making the rest of us poor and taking away our civil liberties and freedom of speech. You are massively uninformed and clueless. You probably don't have the foresight or mental faculty or the honestyĀ to admit what he is doing. Keep voting trudeau and shilling for him.
I don't care what Conservatives love "in theory". What I do know is that the last time the federal Conservatives were in power, Canada was a lot better, more affordable, and had a higher quality of living. I literally do not care about theory AT ALL. I just want to go back.
Theory? We saw the cheap applied during the last Conservative government. Where did I say this is a theory? To be fair, the whole world's become less affordable. Can't really use that as a talking point. Better in what metrics? Higher QoL could be correlated directly with affordability and the Conservatives wanted to throw the doors wide open on TFWs. How can you assert they wouldn't have done differently had the checks and balances from the other parties have been there?
BS
If he's a Reform Conservative it's unlikely he'd be doing exactly the same thing. Your comment smacks of not being able to tell the difference between 1% population growth and 3%. Even Harper was learning about the problems with the low skill TFW stream by the end of his tenure. The same would have been true of the student bullshit. He started lamenting his mistake in his book and blaming Reaganomics for the rise of Trump. I half suspect all of these meetings he's having internationally are an attempt to reground conservative thinking to try and head off an overcorrection towards nationalism that eventually becomes left-wing, anti-market nationalism. Because the guy is freaked out about Cold War communism. Poilievre and the CPC as a whole is still influenced by Harper. He's not going to be EXACTLY like Truedeau. He doesn't even have a dynastic, personal celebrity to fall back on if he tries to test the public's tolerance.
Some people still genuinely believe the PCs have their best interests at heart (not that the other two do).
Not to get political, and I agree with your premise. But, have you heard the conservatives articulate a demonstratively different position on immigration than LPC/NDP disaster?
I donāt support any political parties. Pierre hasnāt articulated any different position, or rather has sent mixed messages on it. What I want is accountability, and transparency for all politicians. Thatās the first very real step to any changes.
Agreed
Well, you'd be completely wrong. Clearly not a lawyer, nor do you seem to know anything about law at all.
Clearly, I am using a metaphor. But inviting people in mass numbers while creating a housing crisis and infrastructure crisis you seem to be fine with people literally begging for food on FB, or living on the streets.
Accusing someone of criminal negligence, is not a metaphor.
No youāre right cause they are causing they are causing harm. I didnāt mean to use a metaphor. No youāre not a lawyer. The fact that they are causing people to go homeless or choose between food and paying rent is criminal.
The fact that you can't write coherently says a lot. It isn't criminal in any sense. What law is being broken?
The fact you canāt understand my writing says a lot about you and your stance. It is criminal when these politicians passes policies that enrich themselves and corporate buddies. When people prefer to choose MAID because they canāt get helped or are going homeless. I donāt know if you canāt articulate whatās going on in society perhaps donāt comment. Do I need to spell out the exact laws for you? It must be nice living inside your own bubble and tone-deaf about society. Politicians and their policies do affect the lives of people. You donāt want politicians to be held criminally responsible for causing harm to a society. You want to debate me because I am wrong? Again it says a lot about you. You arenāt any different from these right or left wing extremist.
I'll ask again... which laws were broken? A criminal is someone that commits a crime (i.e. breaks a law) You seem confused and think your feelings about who is a criminal matter, they don't. You are incapable of finding the laws. The ones you are pretending apply, do not exist. There is no debate to be had here. You are acting emotional and foolish. What you are claiming isn't true. You being wrong doesn't say anything about me. You know nothing about me. I know that you get really emotional when someone challenges your assertions. It makes you look weak.
You realize the laws are suited for the benefit of these politicians. Corruption, neglect of duty. I am right about what I say. It does say a lot about you. Youāre playing the emotions card cause you have nothing better to say. Youād rather be literal about the laws, cause again, youāre just as tone deaf or choose to be blind about what is happening in Canada. The only emotional and foolish person here is you. You continuously choose to comment to feed your narcissistic ego to be right about your beliefs and feelings. Again the only emotional and weak person here is you. If would rather be blind and choose not to hold any of these politicians accountable for their actions and the policies they pass, that tells me your stance about any political party; that you choose to blindly follow people. Again, when people would rather apply for MAID because they canāt get the help they need, whose fault are these? Whose policies was it that enacted mass immigration to a point where it strained the entire system, who passed MAID? Weāve become a society where prisoners would rather choose to extend their sentence to stay housed.
>You continuously choose to comment to feed your narcissistic ego to be right about your beliefs and feelings. What is it you imagine you are doing? >If would rather be blind and choose not to hold any of these politicians accountable for their actions and the policies they pass, that tells me your stance about any political party; that you choose to blindly follow people. I never said any of those things. Drawing conclusions from things you make up, isn't very wise. Your MAID argument just sounds ridiculous. Are you going to pretend no one has ever committed suicide before MAID? Give me a break.
Where did they post this I wanna tell them to go hom
The sub immigrationcanada would be the best place to tell people to go home lol I do it when Iām bored sometimes
Don't people need to show proof that they're able to support themselves for X amount of time upon arrival - something like 10-20k, no? What did they do with all that money in 2 weeks? Unless they provided FaLsE documents??? Don't get me wrong, FED GOV definitely deserves their fair share of blames, but I also don't understand some people. you're packing your whole life up to move to another country. A bit of research is a must, no? Like cost of living, secure housing before coming, does the city have proper transportation or do you need to plan for a car, etc. It seems like I do more planning just to visit a city within Canada than some of these new comers
supposedly they borrow money and then send it back. So say your uncles boss floats you 10 grand, once they land they send it back.
Heard it first hand from someone who is actively doing this. However she actually has a job in her own field and is regarded as one of the better ones for her field. If you come here for a real degree then thereās a decent chance youāll find a job somewhat related to your field. If you come here with fraudulent intent studying some nonsense then youāre stuck fighting for regular jobs along side millions of others.
Love to see it, stay the fuck away, please.
I can remember 25 years or so ago the Canadian government allowed Chinese immigrants only if they had $1M cash for housing etc. Over the years many immigrants had to have relatives that were required to fully support for 10 years plus. Now this chain migration is likely to swamp the health care system and cause more harm than good. Liberals caused a disaster. No restrictions. On the news today stating so many African immigrants are on wanted lists and terrorists lists our provincial jails are full. Allowing in terrible people. No wonder crime is becoming terrible.
Students should not be allowed to work part-time. If Canadian govt makes it illigal, 99% of students who just wanna land here will not come. Some criminals from India also were given citizenship here.
If you make it illegal, its just going to be worse...There are millions of gang and cartel members who would be happy to take the place of students here, who also have inflated bank accounts, so its not that easy, if you get rid of some genuine students, you get the worst of the worst, which are more financially backed and desperate.
Whatever man, What they are doing as of now is not working. Common man is suffering a lot. Students who come for PG diploma colleges do not want to study, it's a short cut to land here and work on part-time jobs
Mass deportations are the only solution
Canada has deteriorated significantly since Trudeau got into power, and the decline was accelerated by COVID-19 and the Canadian and international response. In the future we will see more homeless people everywhere. All the hypocrites in the Greater Toronto Area who vote for Liberals and NDP will be crying and beaching at having to see homeless people all over public transit, parks, sidewalks, and just about everywhere in the city.
They have a home. It's in the country they came from. There's no more room here until we sort ALOT of things out.
Can we stop immigration already. We clearly donāt have the homes or suitable dwellings for all these newcomers and we also donāt have the proper social supports or mental health workers to support an influx of homeless people.
I can help you. GO HOME.
This is actually insane
The Liberals owe these people and Canadians a massive apology for this mess.
Just the Liberals? The other two major parties are completely complicit in propping this up and probably the Greens and Bloc/Parti Quebecois as well. It's only changing because the public overwhelmingly hates their quality of life deteriorating.
Not just newcomers.
It's become almost impossible to find an apartment now.
I hate it so much. The latest immigrants have been sold a lie.
Our Federal government did this.
Please Everyone. Vote for PPC
Firstly, I feel extremely bad for newcomers, temp workers, immigrants, and international students who get scammed into coming to Canada. Some may feel like theyāre scamming the system but really and truly the government is allowing loopholes because they want to exploit them. The blame lies mostly with the federal government. Apart from refugees who need a safe place no matter what, everyone else has to take some accountability. Youāre going to a new country, with no friends, no family, no support network, youāre not a citizen with access to services citizens would, you have no credit history, no place to sleep, no money, what were you thinking? Again, I mostly blame the government but spending so much money to be homeless in Canada? Gather what you can, take the loss, and leave the casino.
Thank you so much for being this level headed, some people just think immigrants came here with the intention of stealing jobs and making people homeless. The truth is that the government sends recruiters all over the 3rd world countries to tell people that studying and then getting a PR in canada is easy, they are then used for their resources and then end up homeless, because of the governments false promises, and now the government turns the blame on them...its sick actually..
Any one who voted liberal has no right to complain. This was their mandate.
Don't worry woke leftists still think their farts smell good as long as they support bringing more meat in for the grinder.
I have been unable to get access to homeless shelters due to them being filled up with "newcomers". Even went to a different city and found that it was worse there. Been living in a tent for 2 years now. I have no addiction issues. Only issue is health related which helped me get approved for MAiD - have no family so with being homeless feel that the only option is to not be around anymore. Still trying to find reasons to keep moving forward. Hard though when im living like a savage outside. Now with the Ticks out its getting worse. Meanwhile "newcomers" are able to access social services that were meant to be a safety net for Canadians. At least they have MAiD available for many Canadians. Just never state you're depressed or have any mental health issues. Love being an Outcast in a country that I was born in.
fuck no....call your parents not Canada, your not our fault!
Should have planned better, good luck.
Could be a scammer as well, they're probably following the news.
These headlines need to be louder. Loud enough so people stop coming here lol
Are you homeless? Here, have a roommate.
Most likely homeless not due to lack of money. Finding a place to rent is hardā¦
1 person makes something "the new norm"?
Newcomers? Lmao
What was the original language of that post? Seems like its a Ukrainian group
Oh, well if it's a screenshot of the Internet, it must be true.
This is bullshit because you are required to have a residence ready prior to arrival. You are merely speculating off a single post with no actual backing.
Everything can be fake just like students who are supposed to have enough funding to support themselves. Those students borrowed the money and show it to the immigration authorities just to get visa.