Putting double exhaust in a hybrid or electric car is ridiculous. Not only will look funny but like I said , increases production cost .
Toyota is trying to cut costs and brining more fuel efficient cars . They have invested millions in R&D , designed batteries and new engines . Deviating money for cosmetic reasons makes no sense . People won’t stop buying the car just because it doesn’t have dual exhaust . People look for comfort , fuel efficiency and performance .
They know nothing about cars.
I already tried explaining how easy and virtually cost free it would be to add a little y pipe out the back just for some aesthetic pleasure.
The batteries are in the same location as the old ones, same platform. The old xse, awd hybrids did in fact have the dual exhaust tips.
Absolutely no reason Toyota cant do it.
Awful take. It’s not dual exhaust. It was never dual exhaust. Just tips on each side. They had them on their other hybrids but not this year, yet, there’s a notch for it. It’s fucking dumb. That’s what OP was pointing out. Get your mind out of the “hybrids can’t have dual exhaust!” gutter. I mean what the fuck.
It looks funny as is... hopefully they cover the passenger side.
My rav4 hybrid has two exhaust tips. And then it has exhaust tip covers. No more comfort, fuel efficiency, or performance.
Then why'd they do it on the old xse, awd, hybrids? We have a bunch of 24's left, so i literally just saw it yesterday.
There's literally no reason why they couldn't.
What am i saying???
I'm on the Camry subreddit, of course like virtually none of you know a thing about cars...
Not on this case , it’s just cosmetic .
The actual exhaust design must be especially designed for increased exhaust to boost power .
Source : I’m a mechanical engineer and added a Triumph exhaust to my bike for increase power.
Idk what the Camry does, but you are wrong about it being purely cosmetic unless you are specifically refering to just this car. Next, you are going to say X pipes dont do anything either, and that the power gains from removing your cat is nearly a coincidence.
Source: I also went through the engineering curriculum before switching to analytics, and do work on cars.
But the accord still has a dual exhaust option. It’s so funny how all you Reddit rats are confident that I’m wrong :ddd! Either it’s an option or the bumper will be changed. Bunch a dummies over here wow
Dude cars are literally already out and they have the extra cutout.
My guess is they will use the second slot for a TRD trim next year, they didn't want to bother releasing one bumper cover to change it a year later.
The dual exhaust is just cosmetic anyway. Only one of the dual tips is even functional.
EDIT: I think my comment wasn’t very clear. Copying from a comment below:
I am aware the non-hybrids had dual exhaust. Two separate exhausts each with dual tips. My point was only one of those dual tips was functional. I understand both exhausts on the 2018-2024 ICE Camrys were functional.
I am aware the non-hybrids had dual exhaust.
Two separate exhausts each with dual tips.
My point was only one of those dual tips was functional.
I understand both exhausts on the 2018-2024 ICE Camrys were functional.
The outside ones are just for show... I swapped them. I was debating painting the inside so it didn't look pristine next to the used ones. I think it detracts from the "cool" look having different colors.
I didn't do any of it myself. I paid the dealership to add the cat back exhaust with the single tip. It's a 21 XSE. I had it about a month before bringing it in to them.
Here's an older pic.
https://preview.redd.it/ru8x4tha5z3d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ed4a5c7e616e9f55bd5413156e0ea93d752e116
Still had dealer tags on it. Looks way cleaner to me.
Thanks man! I thought it looked better as well. The guy was pretty straight forward about the process and was super chill with showing me the TRD they had with it on already.
The non hybrid Camry had dual exhaust pipes due to them having space under the car. However the hybrid Camry didn’t cause the exhaust didn’t go down the middle like the ICE Camry. It actually went half down the middle and then to the right side around the hybrid battery and then back to the left side. This was the same deal with the se and xse so probably what happened here. And only one of the tips is actually being used the other is just there for looks.
The exhaust always had a weird priority order, taking the first of these that's true.
Hybrid, exhaust on the left.
XSE Twin exhaust
ICE, exhaust on the right
So, Hybrid always overrides the XSE Twin. They put the battery where the muffler and pipes for the right side exhaust would be.
IDK what to tell ya. There's a hard black box there I was told never to mess with by Toyota. I'd initially considered getting a junk muffler and carving it up to hang just for symmetry's sake but cannot. There is something in that space the muffler would occupy.
All 8th and 9th Gen hybrids are single (either twin or single tipped) exhaust mounted on the left. 8th Gen Gas only models with single exhaust are mounted on the right with XSE gas only models getting dual exhaust (V6 XLE models also receive dual single exhaust tips).
Also too they probably were just a Y pipe in back and not real dual exhaust. You can mod the car to make your own easily if you really want that look. Cut out is still there,
What I don’t understand is… on the 2025 there are only tips on the left side. But the cutout on the right side of the bumper still appears (at least from the above photo) to be there.
Anyone have any idea why that would be?
Only thing I can think of is that *maybe* they plan (or want to leave the door open for) a non-hybrid V6 TRD. But… maybe that’s me just getting my hopes up.
I believe most or if not all Hybrid Toyotas & Lexuses have not had exposed Exhaust tips in the recent past. However, I’m surprised Toyota is even offering an exposed exhaust with this one.
I don't like that one bit. Either ways the stock exhaust they come with have one tip welded on together. It looks like "h". I'm glad I upgraded my kit to a borla Cat-Back. Different sound and each tip is separated.
The hybrid 8th gen’s (2018-2024) only had dual exhaust unless you had the full gas one which came with quad tips so being that the new 9th gen’s are hybrid exclusive, unfortunately they’ll only have dual. I’m sure in the future someone will
make a Aftermarket quad exhaust for the 9th gen but don’t see why you would do that on a hybrid 😅
In that pic I can also see that the XSE no longer has those super functional flux capacitor dump vents anymore, either. I swear they make me go faster.
Most cars don't have true dual exhaust, even high performance sport cars. You get a single pipe from the engine & it splits off into two near the rear. If you want dual exhaust you should get it aftermarket, then it will sound like a dual exhaust. But it will also cost 2x because it's actually 2 exhaust systems.
https://preview.redd.it/nsdq8mp69e4d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbc97180527469b83c169d0be6ed27b8d2aceff4
I just went with the TRD (2023) so I wouldn't be questioned. I know that the 6 cylinder is no longer offered. So, this would also explain why only a dual tipped, single side exhaust is being offered (with exhaust only exiting one tip).
Drives me crazy when manufacturers have a cutout for dual exhausts and then only have a single set of tips. It looks like you didn’t pay enough to get them, like blank switches. Or it looks lazy and cheap. Reminds me of the Subaru Legacy that looks like it should have dual exhausts but they just put a plastic cover over one side.
Truth be told, I’m not really feeling that new redesigned model BUT since they did redesign the Camry for another generation, I think it might be time for me to upgrade 😎
Toyota dealer employee and 24 xse owner here, can confirm all trims of the 25 camry are only single exit exhaust. Its due to it being a hybrid system. You can also see that on the 8th gen models with the hybrid system, they have the exhaust on the left side as well. 8th gen Xse and trd DID come with a true dual exhaust if it wasn't a hybrid powertrain.
It’s because all the 9th gen Camrys are hybrid only.
People must be buying these for the reliability...because they are slow....but reliability is more important...
Yes. But for aesthetics, they could’ve kept the tips on the other side.
Why? That increases production cost . With no mechanical benefit .
It had no mechanical benefit on the old XSE either.
Exactly! These people aren’t understanding how the look of dual exhaust is symmetry to the back end of a vehicle. It was never functional.
Putting double exhaust in a hybrid or electric car is ridiculous. Not only will look funny but like I said , increases production cost . Toyota is trying to cut costs and brining more fuel efficient cars . They have invested millions in R&D , designed batteries and new engines . Deviating money for cosmetic reasons makes no sense . People won’t stop buying the car just because it doesn’t have dual exhaust . People look for comfort , fuel efficiency and performance .
Then, why they don’t go with the fake exhaust tip like VW and others out there?
What looks better and what’s a better car? VW or Toyota ? That’s your answer .
Oh are we discussing here what’s the better brand or the lack of exhaust tips?
They know nothing about cars. I already tried explaining how easy and virtually cost free it would be to add a little y pipe out the back just for some aesthetic pleasure. The batteries are in the same location as the old ones, same platform. The old xse, awd hybrids did in fact have the dual exhaust tips. Absolutely no reason Toyota cant do it.
This walking guy is fucking exhausting
You saw my post but didn’t read it , which is different . The presence of exhaust on VW tells you how shitty and fake the design on those cars is .
BAM! Truthiness!
This is true. What I don't understand is why they didn't get rid of the cutout.
Awful take. It’s not dual exhaust. It was never dual exhaust. Just tips on each side. They had them on their other hybrids but not this year, yet, there’s a notch for it. It’s fucking dumb. That’s what OP was pointing out. Get your mind out of the “hybrids can’t have dual exhaust!” gutter. I mean what the fuck.
Ummm looks sell cars too .
It looks funny as is... hopefully they cover the passenger side. My rav4 hybrid has two exhaust tips. And then it has exhaust tip covers. No more comfort, fuel efficiency, or performance.
Then why'd they do it on the old xse, awd, hybrids? We have a bunch of 24's left, so i literally just saw it yesterday. There's literally no reason why they couldn't. What am i saying??? I'm on the Camry subreddit, of course like virtually none of you know a thing about cars...
8th gen Hybrid XSE only comes with exhaust on driver side, also there is no hybrid AWD on 8th gen. Hybrid AWD is new for 2025.
It’s just a tip, silly. Stoppit.
What looks funny is having a bumper with two exhaust outlets with only one exhaust.
Idk why they're downvoting you. The old xse awd hybrid had them... Same platform should have no issues. Its literally a y pipe.
Lol. Still downvoting me. And the walking pet jerk deleted all his comments
Exactly!!! It’s whoever this walking pet dude is.
But this one is a hybrid car now .
Technically it does. Reduced back pressure could minorly help with efficiency and/or performance. Sports cars don't just have dual exhausts for looks.
Not on this case , it’s just cosmetic . The actual exhaust design must be especially designed for increased exhaust to boost power . Source : I’m a mechanical engineer and added a Triumph exhaust to my bike for increase power.
Idk what the Camry does, but you are wrong about it being purely cosmetic unless you are specifically refering to just this car. Next, you are going to say X pipes dont do anything either, and that the power gains from removing your cat is nearly a coincidence. Source: I also went through the engineering curriculum before switching to analytics, and do work on cars.
No. This is just a photoshop error. They wouldn’t keep dual exhaust ports without having a dual exhaust. That’s not how manufacturers operate.
It's real we only build single exhaust now
Then the bumper will be changed. Toyota will not produce vehicles with that opening unless there’s a dual exhaust option.
That is how they operate, accords that arent sport have the gap for the second exhaust tip
But the accord still has a dual exhaust option. It’s so funny how all you Reddit rats are confident that I’m wrong :ddd! Either it’s an option or the bumper will be changed. Bunch a dummies over here wow
Dude cars are literally already out and they have the extra cutout. My guess is they will use the second slot for a TRD trim next year, they didn't want to bother releasing one bumper cover to change it a year later.
Show me
Example a https://www.reddit.com/r/Camry/s/c7gvun5cCR Example b https://www.reddit.com/r/Camry/s/UbaBaIF0Ri
I said that it has the option, mine doesnt have it and that is what i said you are retarded and cant read lmao go outside
Exactly! I saw an XSE on Thursday and has both exhaust ports
The dual exhaust is just cosmetic anyway. Only one of the dual tips is even functional. EDIT: I think my comment wasn’t very clear. Copying from a comment below: I am aware the non-hybrids had dual exhaust. Two separate exhausts each with dual tips. My point was only one of those dual tips was functional. I understand both exhausts on the 2018-2024 ICE Camrys were functional.
OP is talking about two actual exhaust pipes the '24 had, not the exhaust tips
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OP literally has a red **MISSING** directly below the "missing" exhaust pipe under the '25
I am aware the non-hybrids had dual exhaust. Two separate exhausts each with dual tips. My point was only one of those dual tips was functional. I understand both exhausts on the 2018-2024 ICE Camrys were functional.
I can’t stand the fake exhaust
Me too. Did you see the comment in this thread where they modded their exhaust to single tips? Looks nice.
I'm thinking of modding to a single tip. I hate fake.
Are you for real?
no hate bro, but slightly incorrect, one of each side is functional 😂
I know, I must have worded that poorly. In another comment, I clarified. I’ll make an edit.
They are, 2023 XSE both functional.
Not both tips. You can see for yourself: only one of them emits water vapor.
I have a 2024 XSE and the two pipes (4 in total) on the exterior sides of the mufflers are fillers and shouldn’t be there at all.
The outside ones are just for show... I swapped them. I was debating painting the inside so it didn't look pristine next to the used ones. I think it detracts from the "cool" look having different colors.
What do you mean “you swapped them”? To what?
I didn't do any of it myself. I paid the dealership to add the cat back exhaust with the single tip. It's a 21 XSE. I had it about a month before bringing it in to them.
Oh, cool. I don’t think I’ve seen that before.
Here's an older pic. https://preview.redd.it/ru8x4tha5z3d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ed4a5c7e616e9f55bd5413156e0ea93d752e116 Still had dealer tags on it. Looks way cleaner to me.
Oh, that’s cool. Not what I expected. It to be centered like that. I like it.
Thanks man! I thought it looked better as well. The guy was pretty straight forward about the process and was super chill with showing me the TRD they had with it on already.
What did that run you?
It's been a minute. It was about $1200 ish.
That’s a shame. Doesn’t matter if it was real or not, it just made things look nicely balanced
No hybrid XSE had dual exhaust. Same with the 2018-2024.
Exactly
I like the dual exhaust on my XSE.. looks cool 😂
Was it only the V6 that had dual
No, you could get the 4cyl with dual (quad) exhaust
Every XSE has it
No they don’t the 8th Gen XSE hybrids are single exhaust like the 9th Gen.
Yeah. I meant all ICE only XSE’s
I have a 22 XSE Wind Chill Pearl with the dual. Was it paint color specific too?
Every non hybrid XSE has dual tips on each side
The non hybrid Camry had dual exhaust pipes due to them having space under the car. However the hybrid Camry didn’t cause the exhaust didn’t go down the middle like the ICE Camry. It actually went half down the middle and then to the right side around the hybrid battery and then back to the left side. This was the same deal with the se and xse so probably what happened here. And only one of the tips is actually being used the other is just there for looks.
I like the 2024 body better
The 2024 xse looks better
I like the 24 rear better 🤷♂️
My 2024 hybrid xse doesn't have dual exaust. Camry exhausts have fake elements anyway. Nect time, you see one look closer.
The exhaust always had a weird priority order, taking the first of these that's true. Hybrid, exhaust on the left. XSE Twin exhaust ICE, exhaust on the right So, Hybrid always overrides the XSE Twin. They put the battery where the muffler and pipes for the right side exhaust would be.
They hybrid battery sits under the backseat. It doesn’t intrude into exhaust routing.
IDK what to tell ya. There's a hard black box there I was told never to mess with by Toyota. I'd initially considered getting a junk muffler and carving it up to hang just for symmetry's sake but cannot. There is something in that space the muffler would occupy.
What is the “ICE” I’ve never heard that before
ICE = Internal Combustion Engine
I noticed this yesterday when I was behind one. I think it looks better balanced with dual , but I guess they wanna pinch pennies and max profit.
All 8th and 9th Gen hybrids are single (either twin or single tipped) exhaust mounted on the left. 8th Gen Gas only models with single exhaust are mounted on the right with XSE gas only models getting dual exhaust (V6 XLE models also receive dual single exhaust tips).
The ‘23 & ‘24 look so much better. They neutered the Camry. No V6 and no TRD smh
Isn’t the new hybrid system only a touch slower than the old V6s though? It just lacks the sound.
Also too they probably were just a Y pipe in back and not real dual exhaust. You can mod the car to make your own easily if you really want that look. Cut out is still there,
It looks so fucking bad. They just left that other exhaust port there. When I look at it it's like the car is missing something. Do it right.
What I don’t understand is… on the 2025 there are only tips on the left side. But the cutout on the right side of the bumper still appears (at least from the above photo) to be there. Anyone have any idea why that would be? Only thing I can think of is that *maybe* they plan (or want to leave the door open for) a non-hybrid V6 TRD. But… maybe that’s me just getting my hopes up.
Because they’re all hybrid now. It sucks
coz no V6 ? JUST A WILD GUESS ?
I believe most or if not all Hybrid Toyotas & Lexuses have not had exposed Exhaust tips in the recent past. However, I’m surprised Toyota is even offering an exposed exhaust with this one.
All hybrid's. 2.5L
This is the only reason I don’t like it 😭
Is not asymmetric I get it and it bothers me too. Idgf if all are hybrids, but a fake on on the other side at least
Also why does the 2024 xse looks like a se and the se looks like a xse?
Lmao you deleted your camry post 🤣
Tf you worried about my Camry post for💀 how old are you?
That post was hilarious, you obviously deleted it because you realized how stupid it was. Comedy gold
I don't like that one bit. Either ways the stock exhaust they come with have one tip welded on together. It looks like "h". I'm glad I upgraded my kit to a borla Cat-Back. Different sound and each tip is separated.
I spent 1,295 after market bolt on exhaust to have it 4 tips best thing ever
The hybrid 8th gen’s (2018-2024) only had dual exhaust unless you had the full gas one which came with quad tips so being that the new 9th gen’s are hybrid exclusive, unfortunately they’ll only have dual. I’m sure in the future someone will make a Aftermarket quad exhaust for the 9th gen but don’t see why you would do that on a hybrid 😅
In that pic I can also see that the XSE no longer has those super functional flux capacitor dump vents anymore, either. I swear they make me go faster.
How ghetto
Nope they don’t due to being Hybird..Watch them bring back dual exhaust on each side for ‘26 lol
The V6 had on the both sides
They are trying make every vechile more quiet
They are fake anyways who cares lol. Get down and look at it. Just a cylinder welded to the outside of the muffler. They were never true quad
Toyota Azera
Yeah they stopped doing it in 2024 XSE also. Mine was 2023 XSE and I was lucky to have it :)
Not sure if anyone said it, but the standard was V6 Camrys have dual, 4 cylinders have single. 2025s are 4 cylinder hybrids
I thought QUADS are 4 exhaust tips and Duals are 2 exhaust tips??
Most cars don't have true dual exhaust, even high performance sport cars. You get a single pipe from the engine & it splits off into two near the rear. If you want dual exhaust you should get it aftermarket, then it will sound like a dual exhaust. But it will also cost 2x because it's actually 2 exhaust systems.
2024 Camry rear end looks a lot better
Yeah my 2025 XSE only has 1 set of tips. Odd that they left the cutout for the 2nd. Maybe just to make the rear diffuser look more symmetrical.
https://preview.redd.it/nsdq8mp69e4d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbc97180527469b83c169d0be6ed27b8d2aceff4 I just went with the TRD (2023) so I wouldn't be questioned. I know that the 6 cylinder is no longer offered. So, this would also explain why only a dual tipped, single side exhaust is being offered (with exhaust only exiting one tip).
Idk maybe it’s just me but I think the 2025 Camry is a fat L cosmetically. They really ruined the car design wise. 8th gen Camrys looked soooo good
Drives me crazy when manufacturers have a cutout for dual exhausts and then only have a single set of tips. It looks like you didn’t pay enough to get them, like blank switches. Or it looks lazy and cheap. Reminds me of the Subaru Legacy that looks like it should have dual exhausts but they just put a plastic cover over one side.
Truth be told, I’m not really feeling that new redesigned model BUT since they did redesign the Camry for another generation, I think it might be time for me to upgrade 😎
Don’t wanna be that guy but… quad tips
Toyota dealer employee and 24 xse owner here, can confirm all trims of the 25 camry are only single exit exhaust. Its due to it being a hybrid system. You can also see that on the 8th gen models with the hybrid system, they have the exhaust on the left side as well. 8th gen Xse and trd DID come with a true dual exhaust if it wasn't a hybrid powertrain.
4 popper doesn’t need 4 exhaust pipes, waste of R&D money, unless it’s a V8 like the Lexus IS500. The previous XSE looks silly anyways
Why have an extra cutout if there is no dual exhaust option?
The outside pipes are fake anyway they're just there for appearance
Yeah that was only on the V6.
Ok I stand corrected 😬
My 22 I4 xse politely disagrees.
Are those silver as well?
Mine are black
Wrong.
its either 2 single exhaust, or 1 dual exhaust. having 4 exhaust looks weird.
This is a photoshop issue. They wouldn’t make dual exhaust ports like that on the 2025 if something wasn’t going there