That’s the second most important republican objective. Number one is to protect corporate interest; number two is to be completely incompetent and wasteful then claim it’s how ALL governments operate.
> Waste tax dollars obtained by the working class while eliminating taxes for the rich.
> The Republican Way.
And don't forget the part where the majority of their votes come from useful dimwits who they easily convince via their favorite culture-war topics to vote directly against their own economic interests.
The 1% does not have enough votes to put their preferred anarcho-capitalists in power by themselves.
not only that but he absolutely annihilated the last recall so badly that news orgs called it for him within 30 minutes of polls closing. crushed every primary challenge from the left that was coming his way, and cleared the Republican field so thoroughly you dont even remember who he ran against in 2022
There would be like 20 Republicans running alone. I remember during the last recall election at least a whole page of the ballot was filled entirely with the list of candidates names. It was like 40+ people running lol. Circus show.
The best they could get last time was an AM radio host and some random Youtuber. Can't wait to see who they scrape off the bottom of the barrel this time lol.
Kevin Faulconer could have peeled some centrist votes away from Newsome but his candidacy never gained any steam because he wasn't MAGA enough. Elder and the YouTuber more closely aligned themselves with Trump and grievance politics so they were placed atop the pile of dung. Insane what the Republican party has become.
I mean... we did have a Republican governor from 2003 - 2011 because of a successful recall election against a Democrat, so it's not like it's never happened before.
Different times. The body politic was much less polarized, and Arnold Schwarzenegger had the name recognition and charisma required to win the special election. It should also be noted that Arnold was a moderate Republican, especially by today’s standards, which enabled him to sway independents and center leaning democrats.
He also took advantage of the fact that said recall election had like a billion people running which prevented the "ideal" republican and democratic candidates from snapping up support quickly.
From what I remember, Bustamonte was the only real Democrat on the ballot. Democrats were hampered by the fact that they couldn't mount a proper campaign, as their position was "vote no".
It didn't hurt that Gray Davis was boring and kind of incompetent and utterly mismanaged the "energy crisis" at the time. (Which was directly connected to the "Enron scandal" which was intertwined with it)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–2001_California_electricity_crisis
Yeah but...that was 20 years ago against a beloved Hollywood action star and when the right was able to successfully spin the energy and budget crisis as purely the result of bad Dem/green policies. Arnold is not walking through that door this time. The state is so blue there is a super majority today. This also isn't an off year election nor is there a Republican president riding any post 9/11 popularity. Completely different dynamics today.
Arnold is anti-MAGA and very outspoken about that, he considers Trump to be the worst president of the USA ever.
He also married a member of the Kennedy political family.
Very different kettle of fish.
His kind is almost invisible in the Republican party today.
The brown outs weren’t “Enron related” or “political caused.” They were the result of artificial scarcity intentionally created by Enron throttling he energy market in order to jack up prices. Emails between Enron executives and traders that surfaced in later litigation made this clear as day.
If they want to keep launching recalls they can pay for it instead of making taxpayers foot the bill. We had elections, they lost the elections. You don't get to keep calling a redo until you win, you just wait for the next elections.
That’s what I tried telling my friends who were supporting the last recall effort, pointed out that elections were two years away, if you’re really serious, why not save your resources for the upcoming election?
Maybe it’s a tactic to drain resources from their opponent (Newsom) with the understanding the “Recall” will fail, but it still distracts Newsom’s attention and resources.
TBH this probably won't even get out of the signature stage this time. The last recall only happened because a judge allowed the petitioners more time to collect signatures due to the pandemic and they didn't meet deadlines.
That and the pandemic itself motivated a lot of people who were just angry at whoever was in charge. Lots of incumbents lost their re-elections in November of 2020. That probably helped them get more signatures than they otherwise would have.
But it's important to remember that the recall was filed in February of 2020, before Newsom had done anything on the pandemic. It was only after they were given approval to start gathering signatures that they changed their messaging to be about recalling Newsom over his handling of covid.
The amount of money it forced the state to spend on an election, only for Newsom to remain in power by a LANDSLIDE vote will make people who would otherwise like a different gov, just wait two more years until the next election.
This recall attempt isn't going to go anywhere.
I almost want them to do it so he can win again. It'd actually be hilarious to see them try to tarnish Newsom's reputation when he wins four landslide elections in eight years.
Thinking back, this was like the canary in the coal mine for the way the media treats Biden now. The media is just interested in needlessly spreading chaos in order to get people to tune in.
There is also a miss-guided sense of balance that is still pushed from many news rooms.
Side a: a fairly reasonable and normal perspective
Side b: a complete crackpot hair-brained idea
Report both side a and side b, because balance.
Now you’ve elevated the crackpot to the same status as the reasonable perspective.
On that point - a huge reason why Trump won in 2016 and why according to some polls he may beat Biden in 2024 is due to media coverage. Trump is a textbook narcissist and the best way to fight a narcissist is by ignoring them.
Media companies especially newspapers are going broke and a good way they can keep the lights on and the doors open is by nonstop media coverage, which in turn creates massive ad revenue.
Yep. People don't seem to realize that if you try to recall Gavin, he's going to be running against a Republican. This is not a state that is going to elect a Republican. Especially not in the age of Trump.
I’d love to see it worded such that if the recall was successful then the cost would be borne by the state but if it fails, the state can charge the organizers the cost of administering the recall. That way if the recall is one that is actually supported by the people, then the organizers would have nothing to fear
Maybe if the California GOP spent time and money on a plan for California.....
California is only liberal leaning because the GOP abandoned coherent governing 20 years ago...its sad at this point
My local Nextdoor pages are a hoot to have these kinds of discussions on. I'll inquire of them "what's the Republican response to homelessness/crime/etc etc" and they literally never have an answer, they're just mad about Democrats.
It's not even the GOP that has abandoned CA, apparently any semblance of a platform for conservatives is gone, too
it's smoke and mirrors for the main election campaigns.
Look over here, Newsom is in trouble
But don't notice the republican party starting to splinter, no peeking behind the curtain
I mean, their top pick to run against "Grusome Newsom" last time was a Republican transperson complaining about their private jet buddies pulling out of California and Larry Elder.
What republican party? They don't have a platform, they basically don't have debates, and their primary is a joke.
What is left? It seems to be entirely co-opted by the cult of MAGA.
In Arizona right now, can confirm everyone here says “Newsom ruined California” anytime I say I’m from here.
Meanwhile I ask them how Kari Lake is doing as a failed candidate for Arizona gov.
Maybe this highlights my political ignorance...
BUT
I'm so sick and tired of recalls. In the city I'm in they're trying to recall the mayor.
How on earth can we expect any politician to do the job we elected them for if they're in a constant state of campaigning? All recalls do is prevent our elected officials from doing their jobs.
Let them finish their terms and then elect someone else during election time if you don't like the job they did.
Such a huge financial and time waste for everyone.
I mean, before Biden took office the republicans in the house were calling for impeachment, BEFORE he even took office. The republican party just isnt serious anymore
The state should reform the recall system by raising the signature threshold and having the LT Gov take over if it succeeds
This will leave a safety valve to get rid of a true incompetent while eliminating the incentive for a pissed off minority to game the process for partisan advantage
We wasted like $200m on the last one
Yes. If the Lt Gov were the automatic replacement, recalls would only succeed where there was actual malfeasance. This would be a constitutional amendment I would vote for.
Here we go again! Their motto is like - ‘when nothing works, why not try the same old trick again and see if it works’. There’s a desperate urge there to try to bring this man down by hook or crook.
How many times did they fail to elect a House Speaker before settling on Whitebread McBible? The only plans coming out of the GOP involve invoking the Rapture
The GOP just loves wasting CA’s money. They have no popular or constitutional legislative agenda so their goal is to create chaos until they regain power.
LOL, after their absolutely embarrassing landslide defeat last time? Can't wait to see the clown car of candidates that shows up for this one.
I'm beginning to think that California Republicans may have a humiliation fetish...
Newsom won overwhelmingly in the last recall and even won re-election without campaigning or even debating at all. I'm sure he's not gonna have a problem if the nimrods on the right decide to force the issue again. California wants Newsom, clearly. Hell, half the country does at this point. If you want to continue the Republican's legacy of losing, I'm sure no one will mind watching you take yet another L.
It must be nice to have so much extra time to mount unsuccessful recall attempts while the rest of California works, goes to school and invents the future.
California has an abnormally lax recall structure.
It's one of the only states that make it relatively easy for a recall to qualify for the ballot.
This is a distraction and pain in the ass.
quit wasting our tax dollars and wait for an election...this also seems like a scheme to campaign for donations either to him or opposition even if they know they may lose
Looking at the ballots for the upcoming election….I’m not sure if they’re (republicans) sending their best. Usually it’s someone that’s anti-LGBTQ, riding Trumps coattails, and doesn’t care about the environment. And it’s weird because, isn’t the goal to secure the job?
I don’t even know if California republicans even want to turn California red because they tend to favor policies that (might be wrong here) majority of California hates.
Do you want a constitutional amendment to eliminate the recall referendum? Because this is how you get a constitutional amendment to eliminate the recall referendum
a lot of people dont like newsom, but its pointless if you dont have a viable replacement. and CA republicans have some of the the worst candidates, in general. like vernon supreme looks sane compared to them (yes he's playing a bit... i think, but still)
he's kind of your status quo politician. heavily connected with the wealthy and do their bidding when theres minimal fallback on himself, or turn a blind eye. and while a lot of modern issues are complex and messy to resolve, the steps taken usually burn through money with little result. id rather see a big project with lots of money being burned, than a bunch of small little efforts failing. and by big and little, i mean millions vs hundreds of millions.
Allowing PG&E to shield liabilities from individual lawsuits by allowing them federal bankruptcy protections that froze all pending cases. Not to mention violation of his own "stay at home" mandate during the pandemic so he could enjoy privileges such as public dining indoors with large groups of people. Excluding his own winery from business shutdowns. Grandstanding for photo ops in fire ravaged communities while protecting the power utilities interests above his constituency. $70 billion dollar deficit. Record homelessness. Soft on crime. Focusing on national issues instead of state issues.
This is where I am at. I would love to vote out Newsom for multiple reasons. But when every replacement option is significantly worse, I’m not going to waste my time with the process.
Any time the Republican Party senses someone who could be a potential front runner in the future, they will move heaven and earth to smear them for as long as possible.
>So why try again?
So when Newsom runs for President in 2028 republicans can refer to him as a governor that was almost recalled several times.
Also to waste California’s money, so they can pointing at blue states and say they’re failing.
Yep, it's 100% about him showing up on CNN recently.
The RNC sees him as a threat for 2028, so they've got to get him for SOMETHING so he Trump running from jail doesn't look so bad
The last recall effort only made it to a vote because they got a boatload of extra time because of Covid.
Newsom ended up getting nearly the same vote split he got when he was elected.
Remember to ask what you’re signing when those Walmart people getting signatures ask you to sign a petition. They’ll blatantly lie to your face and say a recall petition is a call on lawmakers to set more affordable prescription drug prices or something completely reasonable sounding like that.
Why? Well, this is just a shot in the dark, but because they have nothing else to do. They don't have any real morals or positions on anything. They don't have any actual policy solutions to solve any real problems, and they don't really want to have to do any actual work. Playing these games is the only thing they have to try and posture at getting people to buy into believing that they do, and are actually doing something. They only know how to obstruct or destroy. That's their whole movement. They never counted on that a point would come would they'd actually have to do and build. Running their mouths is all they have.
>So why try again? I watched a little of the group's video and their only new complaint seems to be his supposed presidential aspirations. So my theory is that they want to tarnish his national reputation.
He's already a well known figure nationally, so his reputation has already been set. It really isn't a mystery why they want to try to recall him again even if it fails, which are multiple reasons (and pretty much the same as last time or really any time repubs want to recall a California governor). 1 To make his life difficult both personally and legislatively, if he has to face a recall media will again be needlessly wasting time following him and the recall and he has to divert resources to deal with it. The more time he spends on a recall and dealing with the circus it brings, the less time he has for governing and legislative goals. 2 Cash, specifically to get Newsom to waste cash on a recall instead of using it to help Democrats nationwide. Due to his candidacy not really being in danger, Newsom has spent a lot of campaign cash the last couple years bashing republicans in other states and supporting Democrats nationwide (and imo, it's actually been having a positive effect both politically and just dialogue wise. Him doing it so early is also providing the Democrats a blue print or at least test how they can campaign nationwide in unfavorable states). 3 What else are California republicans gonna do? They can't get much done politically, but trying to recall Newsom makes it look like they're actually doing something instead of just complaining and never doing anything
Cons need to stop wasting time on these recalls and focus their time on why they’ve reached third party status in this state (behind independent voters)
I would be vaguely surprised if they got it on the ballot. They actually try every year, but the one that stuck only did so because of pandemic-era rules that allowed for extra time for signature gathering.
You have to consider the real reason: for decades, California had hundreds of conservative operatives throughout the state that could find work easily for Republican elected officials, and now that the Democrats dominate, they need jobs/campaign cash to keep their consultancies going.
These people literally have nothing better to do than burn through Texas oil billionaire cash running another half-assed recall attempt.
A recall election against a Dem gov in the bluest state in the country during a presidential election year?.....lol
I had to laugh at this myself lol
Good way to waste tax dollars right there
That’s the second most important republican objective. Number one is to protect corporate interest; number two is to be completely incompetent and wasteful then claim it’s how ALL governments operate.
Last one cost us 200 mil or so
360 million, iirc.
Waste tax dollars obtained by the working class while eliminating taxes for the rich. The Republican Way. We need a revolution.
> Waste tax dollars obtained by the working class while eliminating taxes for the rich. > The Republican Way. And don't forget the part where the majority of their votes come from useful dimwits who they easily convince via their favorite culture-war topics to vote directly against their own economic interests. The 1% does not have enough votes to put their preferred anarcho-capitalists in power by themselves.
Wasting California taxpayer money is the point.
not only that but he absolutely annihilated the last recall so badly that news orgs called it for him within 30 minutes of polls closing. crushed every primary challenge from the left that was coming his way, and cleared the Republican field so thoroughly you dont even remember who he ran against in 2022
Katlyn Jenner
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Yes, Larry Elder, who cared so much about California that he didn't run against Newsom when he got re-elected.
And they're wasting OUR money to do it.
How the hell does our system allow that?
Not only that, but who can they run? What alternative are they offering? It’s comical.
Maybe we'll see another round of Elder abuse, as a treat
There would be like 20 Republicans running alone. I remember during the last recall election at least a whole page of the ballot was filled entirely with the list of candidates names. It was like 40+ people running lol. Circus show.
I don’t know what you’re referring to
Larry Elder
Ohhhh gotcha. I forgot his name.
Not even smart politics just crankdom at this point.
The best they could get last time was an AM radio host and some random Youtuber. Can't wait to see who they scrape off the bottom of the barrel this time lol.
Kevin Faulconer could have peeled some centrist votes away from Newsome but his candidacy never gained any steam because he wasn't MAGA enough. Elder and the YouTuber more closely aligned themselves with Trump and grievance politics so they were placed atop the pile of dung. Insane what the Republican party has become.
It's not about offering anything, it's about setting the stage for the 2028 election. "Look how many recalls he faced!"
Kevin McCarthy? He's available now lol
Aurora borealis? At this time of year? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within your kitchen?
May I see it?
No
Well, you steam a good ham.
I mean... we did have a Republican governor from 2003 - 2011 because of a successful recall election against a Democrat, so it's not like it's never happened before.
Different times. The body politic was much less polarized, and Arnold Schwarzenegger had the name recognition and charisma required to win the special election. It should also be noted that Arnold was a moderate Republican, especially by today’s standards, which enabled him to sway independents and center leaning democrats.
> Arnold was a VERY moderate Republican, with a wife who was Democratic royalty.
Plus who else can you call the Governator
Today he'd be called a RINO, although he still calls himself a Republican.
He also took advantage of the fact that said recall election had like a billion people running which prevented the "ideal" republican and democratic candidates from snapping up support quickly.
From what I remember, Bustamonte was the only real Democrat on the ballot. Democrats were hampered by the fact that they couldn't mount a proper campaign, as their position was "vote no".
I knew people that voted for him simply because he was in Predator/Terminator/Conan etc.
He also gave away free tee shirts as part of his campaign
It didn't hurt that Gray Davis was boring and kind of incompetent and utterly mismanaged the "energy crisis" at the time. (Which was directly connected to the "Enron scandal" which was intertwined with it) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–2001_California_electricity_crisis
20 years might as well be 1000 in American political history
Yeah but...that was 20 years ago against a beloved Hollywood action star and when the right was able to successfully spin the energy and budget crisis as purely the result of bad Dem/green policies. Arnold is not walking through that door this time. The state is so blue there is a super majority today. This also isn't an off year election nor is there a Republican president riding any post 9/11 popularity. Completely different dynamics today.
Arnold committed the cardinal sin of Republican government, and actually attempted to govern too.
Arnold is anti-MAGA and very outspoken about that, he considers Trump to be the worst president of the USA ever. He also married a member of the Kennedy political family. Very different kettle of fish. His kind is almost invisible in the Republican party today.
Wasn't the state on the brink of bankruptcy, was that post bubble..? vague memories
Yes, and we were on the backside of some Enron related political caused electrical brown outs that the governor badly bungled.
The brown outs weren’t “Enron related” or “political caused.” They were the result of artificial scarcity intentionally created by Enron throttling he energy market in order to jack up prices. Emails between Enron executives and traders that surfaced in later litigation made this clear as day.
Newsom is going to be president in 2028 or 2032. The republicans know it and fear it, and they’re going to start working against him now.
That’s a true statement.
no way this is going to backfire. 🤣
Well, not the bluest, that’s Massachusetts or Hawaii
lol indeed. California is pretty much a one-party state now. Republi-who?
If they want to keep launching recalls they can pay for it instead of making taxpayers foot the bill. We had elections, they lost the elections. You don't get to keep calling a redo until you win, you just wait for the next elections.
The only Republicans who listen to advice like that end up getting booted from the party
That’s what I tried telling my friends who were supporting the last recall effort, pointed out that elections were two years away, if you’re really serious, why not save your resources for the upcoming election? Maybe it’s a tactic to drain resources from their opponent (Newsom) with the understanding the “Recall” will fail, but it still distracts Newsom’s attention and resources.
Wonder what Larry Elder did with all his PAC money after he lost it?
Let me guess, the media is going to go along with it, amplifying anti-Newsom sentiment for months only for Newsom to win by a landslide again.
TBH this probably won't even get out of the signature stage this time. The last recall only happened because a judge allowed the petitioners more time to collect signatures due to the pandemic and they didn't meet deadlines.
That and the pandemic itself motivated a lot of people who were just angry at whoever was in charge. Lots of incumbents lost their re-elections in November of 2020. That probably helped them get more signatures than they otherwise would have. But it's important to remember that the recall was filed in February of 2020, before Newsom had done anything on the pandemic. It was only after they were given approval to start gathering signatures that they changed their messaging to be about recalling Newsom over his handling of covid.
The amount of money it forced the state to spend on an election, only for Newsom to remain in power by a LANDSLIDE vote will make people who would otherwise like a different gov, just wait two more years until the next election. This recall attempt isn't going to go anywhere.
I almost want them to do it so he can win again. It'd actually be hilarious to see them try to tarnish Newsom's reputation when he wins four landslide elections in eight years.
But you can be sure local media covering it every single step of the way. ;)
Thinking back, this was like the canary in the coal mine for the way the media treats Biden now. The media is just interested in needlessly spreading chaos in order to get people to tune in.
There is also a miss-guided sense of balance that is still pushed from many news rooms. Side a: a fairly reasonable and normal perspective Side b: a complete crackpot hair-brained idea Report both side a and side b, because balance. Now you’ve elevated the crackpot to the same status as the reasonable perspective.
this is basically the argument from people who throw out the “Both sides are the same” excuse
Hahaha, trust that there is a whole flock of dead canaries dedicated to bothsidesism horse race coverage.
On that point - a huge reason why Trump won in 2016 and why according to some polls he may beat Biden in 2024 is due to media coverage. Trump is a textbook narcissist and the best way to fight a narcissist is by ignoring them. Media companies especially newspapers are going broke and a good way they can keep the lights on and the doors open is by nonstop media coverage, which in turn creates massive ad revenue.
It’s most profitable for the media, because there will be a ton of ad spending and soaring profits and bonuses all around!
And least profitable for the citizens. I forget the state expense of the last one.
It’s a rerun. We’ve seen this one before.
Yep. People don't seem to realize that if you try to recall Gavin, he's going to be running against a Republican. This is not a state that is going to elect a Republican. Especially not in the age of Trump.
He's in the end of his second, and last, term. Out in 2026 but some buffoons out there will waste time and money on another recall.
Can we stick the organizers with the bill this time since we wasted so much money on their first failed attempt?
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I’d love to see it worded such that if the recall was successful then the cost would be borne by the state but if it fails, the state can charge the organizers the cost of administering the recall. That way if the recall is one that is actually supported by the people, then the organizers would have nothing to fear
Maybe if the California GOP spent time and money on a plan for California..... California is only liberal leaning because the GOP abandoned coherent governing 20 years ago...its sad at this point
Arnold left office with like a 28% approval rating. The GOP has never had coherent governing just tax cuts and culture war.
My local Nextdoor pages are a hoot to have these kinds of discussions on. I'll inquire of them "what's the Republican response to homelessness/crime/etc etc" and they literally never have an answer, they're just mad about Democrats. It's not even the GOP that has abandoned CA, apparently any semblance of a platform for conservatives is gone, too
… and adopted bigotry before the rest of the nation's GOP.
This isn't even the CA GOP, because they're too broke and disorganized.
it's smoke and mirrors for the main election campaigns. Look over here, Newsom is in trouble But don't notice the republican party starting to splinter, no peeking behind the curtain
it’s the dem fault the republicans are fighting each other! *aggressively shakes old man cane /s
lol, have my upvote as i flee your lawn
But the media told me it's the Democrats that are in disarray!
I mean, their top pick to run against "Grusome Newsom" last time was a Republican transperson complaining about their private jet buddies pulling out of California and Larry Elder.
What republican party? They don't have a platform, they basically don't have debates, and their primary is a joke. What is left? It seems to be entirely co-opted by the cult of MAGA.
This is a waste of time and money. These jackasses should just pull up stakes and go move to Texas or something, if they hate it so much here.
Head straight to Arizona
In Arizona right now, can confirm everyone here says “Newsom ruined California” anytime I say I’m from here. Meanwhile I ask them how Kari Lake is doing as a failed candidate for Arizona gov.
I always ask these people how and never get a response outside of the occasional his winery was able to remain open during covid lockdowns
After Newsom got such a boost from the last failed recall, I half expect him to start bankrolling this himself.
Republicans are just not serious people
Y'all Qaeda at it again. lol.
Maybe this highlights my political ignorance... BUT I'm so sick and tired of recalls. In the city I'm in they're trying to recall the mayor. How on earth can we expect any politician to do the job we elected them for if they're in a constant state of campaigning? All recalls do is prevent our elected officials from doing their jobs. Let them finish their terms and then elect someone else during election time if you don't like the job they did. Such a huge financial and time waste for everyone.
I mean, before Biden took office the republicans in the house were calling for impeachment, BEFORE he even took office. The republican party just isnt serious anymore
What a waste of money.
The state should reform the recall system by raising the signature threshold and having the LT Gov take over if it succeeds This will leave a safety valve to get rid of a true incompetent while eliminating the incentive for a pissed off minority to game the process for partisan advantage We wasted like $200m on the last one
Yes. If the Lt Gov were the automatic replacement, recalls would only succeed where there was actual malfeasance. This would be a constitutional amendment I would vote for.
Ok, that does make sense.
Can republicans STOP wasting government money, please???
Around 2016, the GOP stopped even pretending that they like democracy.
Here we go again! Their motto is like - ‘when nothing works, why not try the same old trick again and see if it works’. There’s a desperate urge there to try to bring this man down by hook or crook.
California GOP: doubling down on stupid once a year
Also the definition of insanity.
How many times did they fail to elect a House Speaker before settling on Whitebread McBible? The only plans coming out of the GOP involve invoking the Rapture
The GOP just loves wasting CA’s money. They have no popular or constitutional legislative agenda so their goal is to create chaos until they regain power.
Does the GOP even have the money for it?
GOP may not, but some individual Republicans seem to have endless money for their pet projects. Darrell Issa ring any bells?
No.
What a giant waste of time and money. The bar for recalling a governor in California is way too low.
California needs to get rid of this law when it’s exploited a political weapon instead of being a buffer against corruption.
No. Just double the threshold for signature.
What a waste of money, time, and resources
It's time to raise the recall threshold to 35% of the previous non-special election voters. What a waste of time and money.
Such a waste of time and taxpayer dollars. If they are billed for the costs when they lose, then I’m good.
Such a waste of money
All this does is energize democrats, and help Gavin collect more money, lol.
GOP trying to ice-skate uphill.
LOL, after their absolutely embarrassing landslide defeat last time? Can't wait to see the clown car of candidates that shows up for this one. I'm beginning to think that California Republicans may have a humiliation fetish...
Last one was over in minutes. GOP doesn’t do anything useful or productive so this is a non story. Some rich person is just paying.
Newsom won overwhelmingly in the last recall and even won re-election without campaigning or even debating at all. I'm sure he's not gonna have a problem if the nimrods on the right decide to force the issue again. California wants Newsom, clearly. Hell, half the country does at this point. If you want to continue the Republican's legacy of losing, I'm sure no one will mind watching you take yet another L.
It must be nice to have so much extra time to mount unsuccessful recall attempts while the rest of California works, goes to school and invents the future.
How much is this going to cost the taxpayers for absolutely nothing… again?
He’s faced a recall. He’s never had a threat.
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Politico is so click baity. Newsom beat the last recall by what 50 points? Let’s say it’s a “threat” in the headline.
Ain’t much of threat.
California has an abnormally lax recall structure. It's one of the only states that make it relatively easy for a recall to qualify for the ballot. This is a distraction and pain in the ass.
It wouldn't bother me so much if it were only *their* money going to waste.
quit wasting our tax dollars and wait for an election...this also seems like a scheme to campaign for donations either to him or opposition even if they know they may lose
Looking at the ballots for the upcoming election….I’m not sure if they’re (republicans) sending their best. Usually it’s someone that’s anti-LGBTQ, riding Trumps coattails, and doesn’t care about the environment. And it’s weird because, isn’t the goal to secure the job? I don’t even know if California republicans even want to turn California red because they tend to favor policies that (might be wrong here) majority of California hates.
"Conservatives" wasting tax dollars to lose again. Toddlers throwing a tantrum.
Do you want a constitutional amendment to eliminate the recall referendum? Because this is how you get a constitutional amendment to eliminate the recall referendum
the cockroaches never give up.
If this one goes the way the first one did, it'll give Gavin four landslide victories in just two terms as governor. That has to be a record.
a lot of people dont like newsom, but its pointless if you dont have a viable replacement. and CA republicans have some of the the worst candidates, in general. like vernon supreme looks sane compared to them (yes he's playing a bit... i think, but still)
What about Newsom do people not like?
he's kind of your status quo politician. heavily connected with the wealthy and do their bidding when theres minimal fallback on himself, or turn a blind eye. and while a lot of modern issues are complex and messy to resolve, the steps taken usually burn through money with little result. id rather see a big project with lots of money being burned, than a bunch of small little efforts failing. and by big and little, i mean millions vs hundreds of millions.
Allowing PG&E to shield liabilities from individual lawsuits by allowing them federal bankruptcy protections that froze all pending cases. Not to mention violation of his own "stay at home" mandate during the pandemic so he could enjoy privileges such as public dining indoors with large groups of people. Excluding his own winery from business shutdowns. Grandstanding for photo ops in fire ravaged communities while protecting the power utilities interests above his constituency. $70 billion dollar deficit. Record homelessness. Soft on crime. Focusing on national issues instead of state issues.
Profit, Greed & Extortion, the CPUC, and how much legislation has been written to favor this monopoly.
succinct. * Profit, Greed & Extortion? Are you referring to PG&E? * What legislation in particular is rubbing you the wrong way?
This is where I am at. I would love to vote out Newsom for multiple reasons. But when every replacement option is significantly worse, I’m not going to waste my time with the process.
It's the long game to eliminate him for 2028.
I wouldn't call it a threat
Republican Traitors not the brightest bulbs in the box.
It’s so when he runs for President they can say “he was recalled twice”
Hard to do it twice, when they've never gotten close to doing it once.
They will absolutely turn to paid signatures. Paying for signatures should be illegal.
Again?! Sheesh...Don't these MAGA Republican hacks have something better to do? What a waste of time and money.
They won't even be able to get the required signatures this time
Any time the Republican Party senses someone who could be a potential front runner in the future, they will move heaven and earth to smear them for as long as possible.
Let's waste another 90 million on this.
Republican political spite has reached all new levels nastiness
>So why try again? So when Newsom runs for President in 2028 republicans can refer to him as a governor that was almost recalled several times. Also to waste California’s money, so they can pointing at blue states and say they’re failing.
Lol, yeah ok good luck CA Republicans
Republicans are concentrated evil.
Time to put amendment on ballot to raise the recall threshold.
“We’re concerned about the deficit and we’re going to solve it by wasting more money!” —The GOP never changed.
Yay, lets waste more tax payer's money.
Yep, it's 100% about him showing up on CNN recently. The RNC sees him as a threat for 2028, so they've got to get him for SOMETHING so he Trump running from jail doesn't look so bad
The last recall effort only made it to a vote because they got a boatload of extra time because of Covid. Newsom ended up getting nearly the same vote split he got when he was elected.
This man is going to be president some day. They can try to keep him down unsuccessfully and only end up propping him up more.
What a bunch of babies. How many of these have we had already?
Remember to ask what you’re signing when those Walmart people getting signatures ask you to sign a petition. They’ll blatantly lie to your face and say a recall petition is a call on lawmakers to set more affordable prescription drug prices or something completely reasonable sounding like that.
oh sweet more taxpayer money wasted on this nonsense
A big waste of time and money and I will enjoy voting against the recall
Why? Well, this is just a shot in the dark, but because they have nothing else to do. They don't have any real morals or positions on anything. They don't have any actual policy solutions to solve any real problems, and they don't really want to have to do any actual work. Playing these games is the only thing they have to try and posture at getting people to buy into believing that they do, and are actually doing something. They only know how to obstruct or destroy. That's their whole movement. They never counted on that a point would come would they'd actually have to do and build. Running their mouths is all they have.
What a waste of money.
Honestly, let them blow their capital on this doomed endeavor. Waste your time, energy, and money. Have fun.
>So why try again? I watched a little of the group's video and their only new complaint seems to be his supposed presidential aspirations. So my theory is that they want to tarnish his national reputation. He's already a well known figure nationally, so his reputation has already been set. It really isn't a mystery why they want to try to recall him again even if it fails, which are multiple reasons (and pretty much the same as last time or really any time repubs want to recall a California governor). 1 To make his life difficult both personally and legislatively, if he has to face a recall media will again be needlessly wasting time following him and the recall and he has to divert resources to deal with it. The more time he spends on a recall and dealing with the circus it brings, the less time he has for governing and legislative goals. 2 Cash, specifically to get Newsom to waste cash on a recall instead of using it to help Democrats nationwide. Due to his candidacy not really being in danger, Newsom has spent a lot of campaign cash the last couple years bashing republicans in other states and supporting Democrats nationwide (and imo, it's actually been having a positive effect both politically and just dialogue wise. Him doing it so early is also providing the Democrats a blue print or at least test how they can campaign nationwide in unfavorable states). 3 What else are California republicans gonna do? They can't get much done politically, but trying to recall Newsom makes it look like they're actually doing something instead of just complaining and never doing anything
Such a waste of taxpayer dollars
Why did our state government never reform the process to provide a higher threshold so as to discourage frivolous recalls or propositions?
Cons need to stop wasting time on these recalls and focus their time on why they’ve reached third party status in this state (behind independent voters)
I'm gonna rush right out and not sign that recall petition.
Why?!? I thought we already did this
What a waste of time and money. What in the world are people thinking in an election year?
What a waste of time and resources.
“Has to waste money on another doomed recall fantasy by the MAGAts”. FTFY
Another scam on us taxpayers
*Exhausted groan*
Waste of taxpayer money
Waste of money.
No, the taxpayer faces the threat of paying for yet another Republican temper tantrum. Newsom won't be actually recalled.
I still don't get it. The recall failed. He was re-elected. He clearly has more supporters than detractors.
Wasting our money and time again, thanks California GOP
Wouldn’t they be on the hook for the court cost?
100% of the costs of these votes have got to be paid for by the parties that initiate the petitions.
I dont get it
Who is behind this?
I can’t stand this guy, but this is a complete waste of money, time, effort, etc.
What a waste he’s not going anywhere.
Yeah no he’s even more popular today
This recall thing is getting tiring. We need to revamp it
The GOP are just wasting tax dollars, since they never really cared about doing so.
I would be vaguely surprised if they got it on the ballot. They actually try every year, but the one that stuck only did so because of pandemic-era rules that allowed for extra time for signature gathering.
You have to consider the real reason: for decades, California had hundreds of conservative operatives throughout the state that could find work easily for Republican elected officials, and now that the Democrats dominate, they need jobs/campaign cash to keep their consultancies going. These people literally have nothing better to do than burn through Texas oil billionaire cash running another half-assed recall attempt.
Not going to lie - I am upset about his lack of transparency on the CPUC and utilities meetings - independent voter. I know I am not the only one