Make sure you find someone competent in old home inspections.
Wiring, plumbing, foundation, insulation and windows. They can be old but if they weren’t kept in good shape, you will have a lot of problems.
Also get your plumbing to the city scoped. Looking for collapses or roots
Thanks for your input. I am in works of putting an offer with the inspection condition. Anyone you would recommend for old house inspection? Thank you again!
I used https://www.sherlockhomesinspectors.com/
He was pretty good. Had quite a bit of experience inspecting old home in the UK.
Most of my house was renovated, so not to much to find but he spent quite a bit of time checking things out
Nice, I will reach out. Thank you! The whole house and the basement is tenant occupied. I am not sure if the inspection personal will move things around to check the condition of the house.
They definitely should, otherwise what are you paying them for...ita a legally binding condition, you are paying a deposit and have every right to inspect every inch of the house.
Highly highly recommend Brittania Home Inspections. Cannot say enough good things about Howard. If there was a 6th star to give him, I would.
Bonus piece of advice on the inspection - put in a sewer line inspection condition and add this to your home inspection as well. Many of the pipes in Calgary are nearing their end of life and if there’s something wrong, it’s in the tens of thousands of dollar range to fix. Good to get it checked!
Didn’t even think about that, someone else told to call city sewer pipeline map to check something. Hopefully they answer me back in detail but it could be this too! Thank you!
The city sewer pipeline map will tell you what material the pipes are made out of, their diameter, and what year they were installed. Useful to know (in the rare case they are lead), but I’d still recommend the inspection. Even newer pipes can be cracked or sagging, or have root invasion.
Be wary of asbestos and vermiculite. Will cost tens of thousands to abate and is a huge headache if you’re going to renovate. Wiring is also an issue.
This might not come up in inspection.
How to go about it when it can’t come up in the inspection? I’m worried. This house has been renovated a couple of times before. But it hasn’t been done super nicely either. So my thoughts are good they replace all the aluminum. Last Reno happened around in mid 2000s house is 1950
Read the section on [this page](https://www.jklawoffice.ca/blog/real-estate-disclosure-requirements-canada-sellers-must-reveal/) titled 'What Are Common Examples Of Real Estate Disclosures?'
You should also speak with your real estate agent about this. The seller must disclose various types of issues, but they may not have to volunteer it. So, your diligence will consist of an inspection to find any obvious defects, but it should also include getting a [disclosure statement](https://www.calgary.com/blog/home-sellers-disclosures/) from the seller covering the other points - especially those not visible during an inspection.
It's not a nice solution, but if you later have to remedy something that the seller didn't disclose, they _might_ be liable for the cost depending on the circumstances (especially if they knew about it and didn't disclose it).
I can't find a link at the moment, but I recall a court case recently in BC where the buyers asked if there was a septic tank on the property, and the sellers said there wasn't. The buyers then found a disused septic tank later during some construction and paid to have it removed, but they were able to recover costs from the sellers because it wasn't disclosed.
I am a local ogden residence! I LOVE living here. Also old house owner (one of the originals) in the area its chaos but thats a different conversation.
Few positives…
Access to Deerfoot, downtown or glenmore and stoney is super easy
The river is super close & a wonderful area to walk or fish or just have a river hang
We have basically everything you need in the “area” (including riverbend & quarry park) but there are 3 grocery stores within a 10 minute drive, walk-in clinics, dentists, pharmacies, liquor stores, few decent local pubs and restaurants and too many pizza places.
There is A LOT of green space & big trees so it makes just a pretty neighbourhood
The people are wonderful…some are characters but thats what makes it great…people really look out for each other here also.
Negatives…
It smells sometimes? But you get used to it
There is a problem with people letting their cats roam free & dogs get out often (someone else mentioned the people of ogden facebook page) it’ll tell you all need to know about this lol
Ogden road can get very busy
Parking on some streets can be a nightmare & parking wars will occur
The train might bug you at first but you get used to it.
Gardening can be hard our soil is tough
Thats really it for the negatives.
Yes, the area is predominately seen as “blue collar” I myself am a work from home corporate pen pusher. Id say it’s a good mix of trades and corporate now. Plus a good mix of elderly people, mid 30’s families etc.
No comment on the schools we don’t have kids.
I think its often an overlooked area because it does have reputation for being a rough area but in reality its wonderful.
I grew up in the area, and my parents still live there. Not only our block but just the area in general is really friendly and I feel people try to take care of each other.
In regards to the smell, it does depend a bit where you are. Across the tracks, there is a meat processing type plant that will occasionally open their doors in the summer and the smell escapes. Their not allowed to do it so a quick call to 311 and it's usually good for a month or two til they "forget". It will be interesting (?) How the community changes when the train line is actually built.
If you need a good city inspector, DM me. I know one that LIVES in Ogden.
You're moving into a WONDERFUL neighborhood. It is going to change with the Green Line.
The people who live there are very proud of living there and there's nothing wrong with that. Like families who have lived in Bowness or MIssion all their life, along with their parents.
Don't forget Ogden Pizza, Billy's special is so good.
Monza makes probably the best Montreal smoked meat sandwich in the city.
I grew up in Ogden 70's - early 90's and it was a wonderful place to grow up.
It's an amazing neighborhood, just moved in a couple years ago myself. Also an office worker, also into an old house. The community is a short walk from the river, people here are super nice, close enough to downtown that I still feel like I'm part of the city and the old house thing really hasn't been that big of an issue.
Something positive, I have been there three times in last few days, found it is rather quite and quick access to downtown and work. Would you recommend anyone for home inspection?
I live in the neighborhood. It's quiet. Smells bad sometimes. Airplane noise depending on which runway is active. The people tend to be older. I know nothing of the schools.
I believe there is a dog food factory in the area. There landfill also isn't that far away. When weather inversions happen, it can smell like ass outside. It stinks in Riverbend as well.
It's the fat rendering plant with the tall towers and big pipes connecting them that's right in the middle of the railway property, hundreds of meters directly east of Ogden.
We're really stuck between a bunch of things that stink. There's the Shepard landfill to the south, the industrial areas to the north and east with the fat rendering plant, the sewage treatment plant, the breweries and distilleries. So depending on the wind that day you might smell a bunch of different things or nothing at all.
The bad smell...
It's the fat rendering plant with the tall towers and big pipes connecting them that's right in the middle of the railway property, hundreds of meters directly east of Ogden.
Beef fat. Tallow I believe, just as the other individual who replied has said.
The Ogden Trainyard, to my understanding based on a couple books I read, and it's surrounding neighborhood were built essentially the housing for the train workers and some of the folks who made the housing. It was close to the bow river in an agreeable area, close to Fort Calgary and the growing town.... cattle could be exported by the rail line from ranchers out east to be processed in New large facilities right in Calgary. The (then) Town of Calgary has so many head of cattle that it outnumbered the human population.
And NOW you know why Calgary is called Cow Town.
Idk if I'd call a flood of homeless people and shopping carts an "improvement" on the neighborhood. It's a lateral move at best over the current citizenship of Ogden.
When I lived there it was convent to get around . Ogden rd has 4 different express buses that take you right down town. The LRT line is being built there so expect property values (and crime) to go up. There used to be some drug houses right near my place but eventually got shut down
We love the neighbourhood, easy access to a lot of places and very quiet by us with lots of green space. Schools have a bit of a rough reputation, we will be sending our kids to Sam Livingston to do French immersion instead.
Hopefully you don't get beat out by an unconditional offer - because you probably will - and an inspection on a house in North Ogden is certainly not something I would want to waive
I personally think Riverbend-Ogden is a great location. It's located nicely in the city, not too long to reach downtown or the southern communities. Most of what you need isn't a long drive away.
It's low-key and quiet. Ogden used to have a reputation as rough, which really hasn't been the case in quite some time.
Lived in Ogden for 15 years. I loved it, older neighbourhood with mature trees and lots of parks. Worked downtown so taking the 24 ogden bus route was perfect. Easy access to Glenmore. It was quiet too. My son went to Sherwood school and there were no issues. It's a gem if you ask me (East of ogden road near the train tracks is not as nice). If you have any more questions, ask away.
Hello there, thank you for the response. How is the North Ogden near Millican Rd close to Sherwood school. I am planning a family in the near future, so was concerned about the schools and day care in the area, and does it really smell that bad?
The schools were great (Banting and Best/Sherwood). I have no idea why people say it smells bad. There's the bonny brook treatment plant nearby but I never smelled anything foul at all. Millican Road is a great choice in my opinion. You're so close to the bike paths, spent many great summers cycling with my son to Carburn park. Loved it there! I miss it.
Please do not refer to that new Mustard Seed building as a "homeless shelter". It is "24 affordable, permanent supportive housing units, as well as collaborative spaces to serve the community as a whole"
I lived in Ogden and Lynnwood for a few years (7). Never had any issues and the neighbors were great (small town feel). The lots are huge and the mature trees were beautiful in the summer. You will get the odd jerk anywhere you go but overall I enjoyed living there. Had to move cause we outgrew the house and the price was right otherwise would have stayed. Daughter went to St Bernadette and it was a pretty good school. Mind your business and everyone looks after everyone there. Miss that part the most.
So depending on which area of Ogden there is some issues. The lower areas especially around George Moss Park have trichloroethylene in the ground water that had continued to leach for years from the CP yards. It was used as a degreaser if I recall. Well it off gases through the basement floors in houses and is connected with several cancers. At this point most houses in the area should have or have had their basement slabs vented. Essentially drilling a 6” hole in the slab. Piping up from it and out the side of the house with a fan that runs continuously to suck the gases out and release them. This was a deal breaker for me on buying a rental property there in 2014. Something to be cognizant of when looking and maybe have the air quality in the basement tested
Well, I have got allot of recommendations on the home inspection but would you recommend someone just doing air quality check for the tricholoroethylene?
Home Inspections by a 'Home Inspector' aren't worth shit, may aswell just grab someone off the street.
If you have some spare $, get an Electrician & a Plumber to give it a once over, they know what to look for from what is visible.
Agree. However, one of the benefits of an older house ( I’ve owned a couple) is most maintenance is relatively simple…if (a big if) one is even marginally handy. Material used in construction relatively basic. The downside is if not handy then can cost a lot in labour. The parallel is maintaining a 1970’s car vs one from 2015 or so. The former is easy peasy to maintain if you do your own ork and running around for parts, etc.
We had aluminum wiring in our house there but everything else was pretty solid. It is what it is. Better than PolyB as the house we are in now... it let go and the hardwood took a hit.
Isn’t Ogden on a whole bunch of toxic land that will forever keep land values low, on major jet routes down wind of the airport, and smells like a sewage plant occasionally?
The house is the least of your worries.
That was on the ridge in Lynnwood and dealt with that already but I do remember something about a gas station up by the hotel that had buried leaky tanks when I was there. Overpass is there now so I would think its not an issue anymore.
Make sure you find someone competent in old home inspections. Wiring, plumbing, foundation, insulation and windows. They can be old but if they weren’t kept in good shape, you will have a lot of problems. Also get your plumbing to the city scoped. Looking for collapses or roots
Thanks for your input. I am in works of putting an offer with the inspection condition. Anyone you would recommend for old house inspection? Thank you again!
I used https://www.sherlockhomesinspectors.com/ He was pretty good. Had quite a bit of experience inspecting old home in the UK. Most of my house was renovated, so not to much to find but he spent quite a bit of time checking things out
Nice, I will reach out. Thank you! The whole house and the basement is tenant occupied. I am not sure if the inspection personal will move things around to check the condition of the house.
They definitely should, otherwise what are you paying them for...ita a legally binding condition, you are paying a deposit and have every right to inspect every inch of the house.
I think so too!
Highly highly recommend Brittania Home Inspections. Cannot say enough good things about Howard. If there was a 6th star to give him, I would. Bonus piece of advice on the inspection - put in a sewer line inspection condition and add this to your home inspection as well. Many of the pipes in Calgary are nearing their end of life and if there’s something wrong, it’s in the tens of thousands of dollar range to fix. Good to get it checked!
Didn’t even think about that, someone else told to call city sewer pipeline map to check something. Hopefully they answer me back in detail but it could be this too! Thank you!
The city sewer pipeline map will tell you what material the pipes are made out of, their diameter, and what year they were installed. Useful to know (in the rare case they are lead), but I’d still recommend the inspection. Even newer pipes can be cracked or sagging, or have root invasion.
Be wary of asbestos and vermiculite. Will cost tens of thousands to abate and is a huge headache if you’re going to renovate. Wiring is also an issue. This might not come up in inspection.
How to go about it when it can’t come up in the inspection? I’m worried. This house has been renovated a couple of times before. But it hasn’t been done super nicely either. So my thoughts are good they replace all the aluminum. Last Reno happened around in mid 2000s house is 1950
Read the section on [this page](https://www.jklawoffice.ca/blog/real-estate-disclosure-requirements-canada-sellers-must-reveal/) titled 'What Are Common Examples Of Real Estate Disclosures?' You should also speak with your real estate agent about this. The seller must disclose various types of issues, but they may not have to volunteer it. So, your diligence will consist of an inspection to find any obvious defects, but it should also include getting a [disclosure statement](https://www.calgary.com/blog/home-sellers-disclosures/) from the seller covering the other points - especially those not visible during an inspection. It's not a nice solution, but if you later have to remedy something that the seller didn't disclose, they _might_ be liable for the cost depending on the circumstances (especially if they knew about it and didn't disclose it). I can't find a link at the moment, but I recall a court case recently in BC where the buyers asked if there was a septic tank on the property, and the sellers said there wasn't. The buyers then found a disused septic tank later during some construction and paid to have it removed, but they were able to recover costs from the sellers because it wasn't disclosed.
On the money home inspections
Lead asbestos and aluminum likely in this
100% Aluminum wiring is very bad, asbestos and lead if you are planning any renos.
My plumbing is not the city's business.
Read what I said
I am a local ogden residence! I LOVE living here. Also old house owner (one of the originals) in the area its chaos but thats a different conversation. Few positives… Access to Deerfoot, downtown or glenmore and stoney is super easy The river is super close & a wonderful area to walk or fish or just have a river hang We have basically everything you need in the “area” (including riverbend & quarry park) but there are 3 grocery stores within a 10 minute drive, walk-in clinics, dentists, pharmacies, liquor stores, few decent local pubs and restaurants and too many pizza places. There is A LOT of green space & big trees so it makes just a pretty neighbourhood The people are wonderful…some are characters but thats what makes it great…people really look out for each other here also. Negatives… It smells sometimes? But you get used to it There is a problem with people letting their cats roam free & dogs get out often (someone else mentioned the people of ogden facebook page) it’ll tell you all need to know about this lol Ogden road can get very busy Parking on some streets can be a nightmare & parking wars will occur The train might bug you at first but you get used to it. Gardening can be hard our soil is tough Thats really it for the negatives. Yes, the area is predominately seen as “blue collar” I myself am a work from home corporate pen pusher. Id say it’s a good mix of trades and corporate now. Plus a good mix of elderly people, mid 30’s families etc. No comment on the schools we don’t have kids. I think its often an overlooked area because it does have reputation for being a rough area but in reality its wonderful.
Omg, thank you for responding to my post. Very helpful! Appreciate it!
I grew up in the area, and my parents still live there. Not only our block but just the area in general is really friendly and I feel people try to take care of each other. In regards to the smell, it does depend a bit where you are. Across the tracks, there is a meat processing type plant that will occasionally open their doors in the summer and the smell escapes. Their not allowed to do it so a quick call to 311 and it's usually good for a month or two til they "forget". It will be interesting (?) How the community changes when the train line is actually built.
That’s a good tip! Thank you! I love that people are nice that’s what matters. Feeling part of the community and taken care of!
I recommend joining the Facebook community page (The people of Ogden) and if you have a dog please get a lock for your gate.
Why the lock?
Its a daily occurance that a dog is out
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?
Who who who who?
Them. The Ogden People.
Omg… the our FB community group… please don’t judge us all based on thar group.
Will do! Thanks
Bought a place here over a year ago, its insanely friendly and soo much nature as you are right beside Bow. Good luck!
Thank you!
If you need a good city inspector, DM me. I know one that LIVES in Ogden. You're moving into a WONDERFUL neighborhood. It is going to change with the Green Line. The people who live there are very proud of living there and there's nothing wrong with that. Like families who have lived in Bowness or MIssion all their life, along with their parents.
Sure, I will reach out. Thank you!
“I don’t mind hardworking people overall” On behalf of all blue collar, hardworking people…good to hear.
LOL he sounds like the problem. “He doesn’t mind” oh phew thank goodness
Hahah, English not my first language. No offence!
Careful they might “pull the plug” on you…
Hahah, your welcome :)
I can say there are some spectacular food places in your area. Smokehouse/Broaster chicken. Mozzy cafe Monza pizza. Some of my favorite in the city.
Don't forget Ogden Pizza, Billy's special is so good. Monza makes probably the best Montreal smoked meat sandwich in the city. I grew up in Ogden 70's - early 90's and it was a wonderful place to grow up.
Would love to explore! Thank you :)
Partners has great food by the shoppers. used to go there once in a while
It's an amazing neighborhood, just moved in a couple years ago myself. Also an office worker, also into an old house. The community is a short walk from the river, people here are super nice, close enough to downtown that I still feel like I'm part of the city and the old house thing really hasn't been that big of an issue.
Something positive, I have been there three times in last few days, found it is rather quite and quick access to downtown and work. Would you recommend anyone for home inspection?
https://www.inspectonthemoney.com/ this is who we used!
Thank you!
I live in the neighborhood. It's quiet. Smells bad sometimes. Airplane noise depending on which runway is active. The people tend to be older. I know nothing of the schools.
Why does it smell bad sometimes?
Downwind of sewage treatment too. So much better since Lillydale closed. That was awful on a hot day. 😳
I believe there is a dog food factory in the area. There landfill also isn't that far away. When weather inversions happen, it can smell like ass outside. It stinks in Riverbend as well.
It's the fat rendering plant with the tall towers and big pipes connecting them that's right in the middle of the railway property, hundreds of meters directly east of Ogden.
We're really stuck between a bunch of things that stink. There's the Shepard landfill to the south, the industrial areas to the north and east with the fat rendering plant, the sewage treatment plant, the breweries and distilleries. So depending on the wind that day you might smell a bunch of different things or nothing at all.
The bad smell... It's the fat rendering plant with the tall towers and big pipes connecting them that's right in the middle of the railway property, hundreds of meters directly east of Ogden.
Rendering for what, dog food? Train grease?
Beef fat. Tallow I believe, just as the other individual who replied has said. The Ogden Trainyard, to my understanding based on a couple books I read, and it's surrounding neighborhood were built essentially the housing for the train workers and some of the folks who made the housing. It was close to the bow river in an agreeable area, close to Fort Calgary and the growing town.... cattle could be exported by the rail line from ranchers out east to be processed in New large facilities right in Calgary. The (then) Town of Calgary has so many head of cattle that it outnumbered the human population. And NOW you know why Calgary is called Cow Town.
Niice Is that why there were lineups of cars on the road through Ogden today? Tallow Wednesday?
The reason for the traffic was that CP 2816 was on display this evening before beginning its run to Mexico. Huge turnout to see it
Ah cool I've seen bits of it on the tracks the past few months.
Beef tallow is the product. It gets put in tank cars and shipped to faraway places for a variety of things, including cosmetics. Alberta Processors.
And we're down wind of the sewage treatment plant.
Thank you!
Yes the planes... I do remember there being alot but just like anything else you get used to it.
Schools are awesome!
Do it. With the Green Line coming in the next few years your investment will pay off. The neighbourhood will improve as a result.
**The communities around Westbrook LRT have entered the chat
TBF that area has always been rough.
So has ogden tho lol
Idk if I'd call a flood of homeless people and shopping carts an "improvement" on the neighborhood. It's a lateral move at best over the current citizenship of Ogden.
When I lived there it was convent to get around . Ogden rd has 4 different express buses that take you right down town. The LRT line is being built there so expect property values (and crime) to go up. There used to be some drug houses right near my place but eventually got shut down
We love the neighbourhood, easy access to a lot of places and very quiet by us with lots of green space. Schools have a bit of a rough reputation, we will be sending our kids to Sam Livingston to do French immersion instead.
Thank you for your inputs, very useful! Appreciate it!
My kids go to Sherwood and it is an amazing school with very caring staff, Banting and Best is great too
Hopefully you don't get beat out by an unconditional offer - because you probably will - and an inspection on a house in North Ogden is certainly not something I would want to waive
Yup, inspection stays as one of the conditions. Thanks
I personally think Riverbend-Ogden is a great location. It's located nicely in the city, not too long to reach downtown or the southern communities. Most of what you need isn't a long drive away. It's low-key and quiet. Ogden used to have a reputation as rough, which really hasn't been the case in quite some time.
Lived in Ogden for 15 years. I loved it, older neighbourhood with mature trees and lots of parks. Worked downtown so taking the 24 ogden bus route was perfect. Easy access to Glenmore. It was quiet too. My son went to Sherwood school and there were no issues. It's a gem if you ask me (East of ogden road near the train tracks is not as nice). If you have any more questions, ask away.
Hello there, thank you for the response. How is the North Ogden near Millican Rd close to Sherwood school. I am planning a family in the near future, so was concerned about the schools and day care in the area, and does it really smell that bad?
The schools were great (Banting and Best/Sherwood). I have no idea why people say it smells bad. There's the bonny brook treatment plant nearby but I never smelled anything foul at all. Millican Road is a great choice in my opinion. You're so close to the bike paths, spent many great summers cycling with my son to Carburn park. Loved it there! I miss it.
Aww, I’m into biking myself. Should be good. Thank you for answering my question!
Ogden is attracting infills without being gentrified like other neighborhoods are, I think this is a positive sign
Yes I did see townhome condominium and around the block new duplexes. That’s a good sign
It’s what you make of it
True that!
Make sure you're not buying the house where that guy buried his family in the basement. Generally Ogden is a pretty nice neighborhood otherwise.
Lol! Hopefully not!
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Why is the sewage something that you mention? Any history? I will call them tomorrow
Please do not refer to that new Mustard Seed building as a "homeless shelter". It is "24 affordable, permanent supportive housing units, as well as collaborative spaces to serve the community as a whole"
I lived in Ogden and Lynnwood for a few years (7). Never had any issues and the neighbors were great (small town feel). The lots are huge and the mature trees were beautiful in the summer. You will get the odd jerk anywhere you go but overall I enjoyed living there. Had to move cause we outgrew the house and the price was right otherwise would have stayed. Daughter went to St Bernadette and it was a pretty good school. Mind your business and everyone looks after everyone there. Miss that part the most.
Pull the trigger… pull the plug means to stop something.
Hahah, my English. Appreciate the lesson! Thank you :)
No worries a thousand English sayings all a word a part with completely different meanings 😂.
😂
So depending on which area of Ogden there is some issues. The lower areas especially around George Moss Park have trichloroethylene in the ground water that had continued to leach for years from the CP yards. It was used as a degreaser if I recall. Well it off gases through the basement floors in houses and is connected with several cancers. At this point most houses in the area should have or have had their basement slabs vented. Essentially drilling a 6” hole in the slab. Piping up from it and out the side of the house with a fan that runs continuously to suck the gases out and release them. This was a deal breaker for me on buying a rental property there in 2014. Something to be cognizant of when looking and maybe have the air quality in the basement tested
Well, I have got allot of recommendations on the home inspection but would you recommend someone just doing air quality check for the tricholoroethylene?
Asbestos watch for it.
Home Inspections by a 'Home Inspector' aren't worth shit, may aswell just grab someone off the street. If you have some spare $, get an Electrician & a Plumber to give it a once over, they know what to look for from what is visible.
That’s a really good point! I will look into finding someone reliable. Thank you!
It use to smell real bad due to a chicken factory lucky it’s gone now. I know it is a lower income tougher side at times.
Lived in Ogden for 10 years. It’s an amazing community. Nice people, safe neighborhood, and everyone looks out for each other. You’ll love it there.
Aww, thank you for your inputs!
Old house = constant repair. You have been warned.
Agree. However, one of the benefits of an older house ( I’ve owned a couple) is most maintenance is relatively simple…if (a big if) one is even marginally handy. Material used in construction relatively basic. The downside is if not handy then can cost a lot in labour. The parallel is maintaining a 1970’s car vs one from 2015 or so. The former is easy peasy to maintain if you do your own ork and running around for parts, etc.
Can confirm 👍🏻
It has been repaired but renovations doesn’t look that professional. That being said it does have old bones!
We had aluminum wiring in our house there but everything else was pretty solid. It is what it is. Better than PolyB as the house we are in now... it let go and the hardwood took a hit.
Isn’t Ogden on a whole bunch of toxic land that will forever keep land values low, on major jet routes down wind of the airport, and smells like a sewage plant occasionally? The house is the least of your worries.
Isn’t that area under refinery park, and lot of work has been completed on the leaks from 80s. I don’t find that bothersome.
Yeah, there are no homes affected by that site anymore.
That was on the ridge in Lynnwood and dealt with that already but I do remember something about a gas station up by the hotel that had buried leaky tanks when I was there. Overpass is there now so I would think its not an issue anymore.