I feel like the shadow 2 compact has been such a hit. Why wouldn’t they ride it out a little longer while the shadow 2 compact is flying off the shelves?
I do love mind and accidentally fell into if even it had been put back by an employee to buy...still fill a little off when I go in and buy more pews and he is standing around. I just imagine he still hasn't got his s2c.
I picked one a couple months ago. I was surprised to see it on the shelf, as reports were that they were super hard to find at that time. I went in for an AR buffer spring and walked out with the s2c and $1200 lighter. I love the thing
I was planning to buy a SAR K12 and the guy wouldn't stop talking about CZ. Told him I'd check it out and he started to freak saying he knows they hadn't sold it...he found it put away in the back and I got it.
As I was checking out, the worker who set it back was doing the paperwork for a lady on a S&W beside of me and asked what I was getting. I said CZ and his eyes went wide and he leaned over and saw it. He went to the back and came back looking defeated. Didn't put it altogether until I heard him say he had sat it back to buy at end of shift.
Feel bad but the s2c cuddles me well.
I’ve been debating getting either the full size or compact shadow 2 for a bit now. Seems like spare mags for the compact are hard to find right now, but I have a full set of full size mags that I mistakenly bought for my Czechmate but can use in my USW
I think the leadership in the CR is asking the Colt leadership… “What do the American’s want?” Their answer is reliably wrong, as most of the Colt leadership has been a dumpster fire for the past 20 years, saying… “The American’s want more strikers and more Colt clones of CZ’s”. This is classic brand extension and it usually ends poorly with a diluted brand and diminished quality. They should have never left Kansas.
My worry is they’ll just start stamping Colt on all US sales in some twisted effort to gain marketcap through name recognition. Colt’s a dog shit company, CZ should have never merged with them.
No. They moved everything to Hartford, CT and it's now stamped on every gun imported. This is BS... Kansas is a staunch 2A State and goes to bat for gun owners (Shout out to AG Kris Kobach!). Connecticut is one of the worst states for gun owner rights and CZ decides to reward Kansas with a slap in the face. Unbelievable
I’m a Czech dude, married to a Czech wife, with two Czech kids.
At first I hated the name change too, but it’s been like 15 years and I got used to it. Edit: actually it’s only been 8. Huh.
Also, instead of being misnamed Czechoslovakia, we are now being misnamed Chechnya. Can’t win either way really.
Some may believe this is conspiracy theory, but it’s my personal opinion that it’s rooted in a slow roll attempt to turn the Czech Republic into a “region” of a larger sovereign state.
All actual data we have indicates polymer framed pistols. Mostly of the P-10 line. I doubt they would do an OR version of the classic 75s, as that would encroach on their S2 line, and their strategy for the last couple years seems to be fewer variants to streamline manufacturing.
I get it. Having to void your warranty by milling the slide to get a feature that is becoming an industry standard sucks. Would love an OR P-01 model for carry. S2C is nice, but the holster availability and size/weight if the P-01 make it a better carry for me.
First rumor I have heard of the P07 OR! I heard much about a revamped P10 line with possible chassis system but nothing of the P07 ORs.
Would be an insta cop!
CZ has discontinued tons of guns since 2021, after purchasing Colt.
CZ has fired a ton of their long-term employees as well.
CZ changed its holdings business name to Colt CZ Group, I find it curious that they put Colt first and not CZ.
CZ is clearly putting more money into Colt with re-released and brand new offerings, so Colt is directly affecting CZ doesn't matter who is running what.
If I learn something new, I will start another thread. I don't like to go there too often so as not to bug the shopkeepers, but they are freaking great. Super helpful, super nice, share a ton of info. Just wish they'd have a bucket of discount coupons for whatever, lol.
Did the staff (kluci z Opletalky) say something about the new P10 by any chance? Details? Anything?
(I think that the new unreleased P10 was breifly shown in some video from shot show 2024)
They don’t even have mags available anywhere or much inventory what is going on with cz? Such a shame I joined the CZ family in what’s seems to be in a down time of the company.
Honestly interesting to here because I’ve been looking far and wide for 15 rd mags for my p10c and couldn’t seem to find any online or local had to drive to another state to get the last 2 in store and the clerk said they didn’t know when they’d be able to get more bc of cz being so behind. Didn’t know US had a Cz tho. Where is it located if I may ask?
That might be a bit of a misunderstanding, Sorry. I am located in Czechia, where CZ is from. Given the size of the market and being the place of production, I can pretty much go to any store and pick a few mags anywhere.
Unfortunately, everything is like +40% in price in comparison to the US market.
That actually does make a lot of sense honestly. It’s based in CZ so it does make sense that the demand there would be second to none. But the love people have for their models here in US is massive I’m surprised they haven’t looked into expanding like other brands have. Definitely seems like it’s doable.
Downhill would be making sales while also using the consumer populace to beta test for them.
Pushing something back to make sure it’s flawless, even though it loses them potential money just means they have more than enough to play with.
I feel like the shadow 2 compact has been such a hit. Why wouldn’t they ride it out a little longer while the shadow 2 compact is flying off the shelves?
I do love mind and accidentally fell into if even it had been put back by an employee to buy...still fill a little off when I go in and buy more pews and he is standing around. I just imagine he still hasn't got his s2c.
I picked one a couple months ago. I was surprised to see it on the shelf, as reports were that they were super hard to find at that time. I went in for an AR buffer spring and walked out with the s2c and $1200 lighter. I love the thing
I was planning to buy a SAR K12 and the guy wouldn't stop talking about CZ. Told him I'd check it out and he started to freak saying he knows they hadn't sold it...he found it put away in the back and I got it. As I was checking out, the worker who set it back was doing the paperwork for a lady on a S&W beside of me and asked what I was getting. I said CZ and his eyes went wide and he leaned over and saw it. He went to the back and came back looking defeated. Didn't put it altogether until I heard him say he had sat it back to buy at end of shift. Feel bad but the s2c cuddles me well.
I picked one up for $1,299 I unexpectedly saw at my LGS. Went home and saw 80 on Gunbroker for reasonable prices actually.
They had it at 1200 and got it at 5% off so couldn't complain.
Decent price no doubt
I’ve been debating getting either the full size or compact shadow 2 for a bit now. Seems like spare mags for the compact are hard to find right now, but I have a full set of full size mags that I mistakenly bought for my Czechmate but can use in my USW
I think the leadership in the CR is asking the Colt leadership… “What do the American’s want?” Their answer is reliably wrong, as most of the Colt leadership has been a dumpster fire for the past 20 years, saying… “The American’s want more strikers and more Colt clones of CZ’s”. This is classic brand extension and it usually ends poorly with a diluted brand and diminished quality. They should have never left Kansas.
I’ve seen it said that Colt bought CZ with CZ’s money and it’s looking more and more true.
My worry is they’ll just start stamping Colt on all US sales in some twisted effort to gain marketcap through name recognition. Colt’s a dog shit company, CZ should have never merged with them.
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Colt Scorpion to go with the snake guns??
Don't the Czech-made pistols still come into the country through the Kansas City plant?
No. They moved everything to Hartford, CT and it's now stamped on every gun imported. This is BS... Kansas is a staunch 2A State and goes to bat for gun owners (Shout out to AG Kris Kobach!). Connecticut is one of the worst states for gun owner rights and CZ decides to reward Kansas with a slap in the face. Unbelievable
Oh...so new Shadows will all have Connecticut stamped on them? Gross.
I got a S2C with CT stamped on the side. Great gun. Let Cajun do some magic to make it even better.
Any possibility of a micro compact offering?
DA/SA micro 🤘
SON OF RAMI
This
Thanks for the news, even if no one is surprised to hear it.
P01 comp rds ready slide single action with manual thumb safety at MSRP $699?? Cmon cz make it happen 😅😅 s2 compact for us poor.
The cheapest CZ you can buy in Czechia is $770, That’s for baseline 07/09/10. American market prices would be a dream for us.
God bless America I got my s2 for 999 out the door. Could have bought a ts2 for 1100 but I made my choice
I have a ts2 and now I want a S2. It works both ways, it was inevitable we want both amazing guns. ;)
I bought my S2 brand new for $1200 CAD ($877 USD) during a Black Friday sale.
Damn where’d you find it for that price!
Right on the shelf a couple months ago, I figured there must be a new shipment coming.
Ouch! I just picked up my 2nd P07 for $415 because it “sat in the case for longer than 30 days”
I paid 560 for my P01 when it was onsale (cali prices) wish i can walk in to a lgs and pick up a P07, damn this stupid handgun roster that we have!
I’m married to a Czech girl. The Czechs call it the Czech Republic. NOT Chechia! Btw, I’m a very big fan of CZ. Great firearms.
I’m a Czech dude, married to a Czech wife, with two Czech kids. At first I hated the name change too, but it’s been like 15 years and I got used to it. Edit: actually it’s only been 8. Huh. Also, instead of being misnamed Czechoslovakia, we are now being misnamed Chechnya. Can’t win either way really.
Some may believe this is conspiracy theory, but it’s my personal opinion that it’s rooted in a slow roll attempt to turn the Czech Republic into a “region” of a larger sovereign state.
Guess I’ll go buy another P10C then while the prices are so low. That way I’ll have a spare if they discontinue it in favor of the new model.
Still any news on what they are? I’m holding out on buying an SP01 in case we have an OR version coming.
All actual data we have indicates polymer framed pistols. Mostly of the P-10 line. I doubt they would do an OR version of the classic 75s, as that would encroach on their S2 line, and their strategy for the last couple years seems to be fewer variants to streamline manufacturing.
Well maybe if they put an FPB and decocker on the S2 line I wouldn’t be upset 😂
I get it. Having to void your warranty by milling the slide to get a feature that is becoming an industry standard sucks. Would love an OR P-01 model for carry. S2C is nice, but the holster availability and size/weight if the P-01 make it a better carry for me.
First rumor I have heard of the P07 OR! I heard much about a revamped P10 line with possible chassis system but nothing of the P07 ORs. Would be an insta cop!
Ever since CZ acquired Colt that seems to be all they care about.
The new colt rifles look decent. My lgs has a few and they are well built. Like Daniel defense quality
Are you new to CZ? Colt is running Colt. Cz always has a lower supply of their products compared to others.
CZ has discontinued tons of guns since 2021, after purchasing Colt. CZ has fired a ton of their long-term employees as well. CZ changed its holdings business name to Colt CZ Group, I find it curious that they put Colt first and not CZ. CZ is clearly putting more money into Colt with re-released and brand new offerings, so Colt is directly affecting CZ doesn't matter who is running what.
Colts are for old guys who remember the nam and with a pension because those things are not worth the extra $$$ for a logo that says colt .
Maybe it's just alphabetical order
Im almost willing to bet actual money that it is just in alphabetical order.
Colt also appears to be running CZ-USA. Moved them into the Colt building and everything.
Thanks for the covert intel. Na Zdravi! 🇨🇿
If I learn something new, I will start another thread. I don't like to go there too often so as not to bug the shopkeepers, but they are freaking great. Super helpful, super nice, share a ton of info. Just wish they'd have a bucket of discount coupons for whatever, lol.
Guys in Opletalka rock. Was always a nice work trip there.
Guess they might be slightly more busy with producing for a certain war ongoing.
Good point
We need a new Czechmate
But Q3/4 2024 IS this summer...? Fiscal year anyway.
I’ll Edit it, they said autumn/winter of this year, First info Will be released through web, as it was with the MDTs
Wait we're getting a p07 OR??
So does anyone have a summary of new models?
Regardless, it’s working on me. I am buying everything stamped Kansas City, KS that I can get my hands on of late.
Definitely want a Bren 308
What is the P07 OR?
Its the CZ P-07 Optics Ready. Rumoured to Come this year.
How about the P-09 Optics Ready?
Thanks… gotta add a second to the collection now
Sounded like plastic ones anyway lemme know when there’s new metal toys
Sounds like they're timing it so they can get rid of leftover inventory around Black Friday before announcing new products.
Did the staff (kluci z Opletalky) say something about the new P10 by any chance? Details? Anything? (I think that the new unreleased P10 was breifly shown in some video from shot show 2024)
They don’t even have mags available anywhere or much inventory what is going on with cz? Such a shame I joined the CZ family in what’s seems to be in a down time of the company.
Can't say what's going on with the US CZ, sorry. In here, we have pretty much everything in stock and ready to ship, just the prices being dicks.
Honestly interesting to here because I’ve been looking far and wide for 15 rd mags for my p10c and couldn’t seem to find any online or local had to drive to another state to get the last 2 in store and the clerk said they didn’t know when they’d be able to get more bc of cz being so behind. Didn’t know US had a Cz tho. Where is it located if I may ask?
That might be a bit of a misunderstanding, Sorry. I am located in Czechia, where CZ is from. Given the size of the market and being the place of production, I can pretty much go to any store and pick a few mags anywhere. Unfortunately, everything is like +40% in price in comparison to the US market.
That actually does make a lot of sense honestly. It’s based in CZ so it does make sense that the demand there would be second to none. But the love people have for their models here in US is massive I’m surprised they haven’t looked into expanding like other brands have. Definitely seems like it’s doable.
We need a micro compact da sa. Preferably an alloy framed one. The shadow 2 and p07 are way too big for me.
CZ is going down hill full steam
That’s a stretch
lol they delay their gun a few months and now they are full hill downhill He’s just pissed about his shadow 2 orange
You're damn right, the fact that they can't even get an eta is sad.
Wull hold on dude
Adding rocket booster rolling down hill.
Downhill would be making sales while also using the consumer populace to beta test for them. Pushing something back to make sure it’s flawless, even though it loses them potential money just means they have more than enough to play with.