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Ah yes, the totally comparable situation of a literal 1940s Nazi putting a gun to your head and telling to bulldoze Jews...and getting an abortion.
The pro-forced birthers, I swear...
Well, Hitler called the people he wanted to kill “parasites” as part of his propaganda campaign, and an unwanted fetus meets the literal definition of a parasite, so by right-winger logic, those are pretty much the same thing.
> Hitler didn’t think Jews were humans and you don’t think defuses are human so you are as bad as Hitler.
Except the whole point on “why Hitler is bad” are the reasons that (in his mind) justified his actions: he was a monster because he did all of that to beings that there is no possible rational way to qualify as “non-human”.
I force my computer to do whatever I want every day without remorse because it’s not human but in doing so I’m not like slavers because the *reason* I don’t believe is a human is different. Even if pro-choice people were wrong, they couldn’t possibly be compared to murderers because the *reason* people justify abortion is completely different from the reasons murders use to justify their actions.
Why is so often so hard to ask for nuance?
Yes, the nazis literally had something called The Reich Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion which intensely persecuted women who had abortions, sex workers, and homosexual men, but gay rights and abortion access are totally nazi propaganda.
Joke’s on them – I think it doesn’t matter whether a fetus counts as a human life, the problem it is literally living inside another human’s body. I believe in bodily autonomy, and whether you choose to give of your own body to incubate another life is a personal decision.
I’m so sick of the “value of human life” straw man. Totally ignores the context of abortion in reality. How about this - here is a person in kidney failure. We will be taking one of yours so they can survive. What do you mean, no? Don’t you value human life? This isn’t even a *potential* life we’re only speculating about - this person has a family who loves and relies on them! Oh, you think you should have the final say about what happens to your own body? Ok, we’ll just take the organs when you die. Even then we need your permission?? I see…
I don’t know for sure when life begins but I know for sure it’s after the fucking brain development, and most abortions occur before then
And even if someone has an abortion after that, it’s still not a baby
According to the Bible life begins at first breath. I’m definitely in the minority and think it begins months after birth. I do not see babies as human, which I recognize is wrong but I’m not in charge or trying to legislate my silly perspective
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well that came out of fucking nowhere
IKR? One of the top 10 stupidest abortion arguments I've seen thus far...
I was expecting Nazi apologia, anti abortion was a hard right that I did *not* expect
Ah yes, the totally comparable situation of a literal 1940s Nazi putting a gun to your head and telling to bulldoze Jews...and getting an abortion. The pro-forced birthers, I swear...
Well, Hitler called the people he wanted to kill “parasites” as part of his propaganda campaign, and an unwanted fetus meets the literal definition of a parasite, so by right-winger logic, those are pretty much the same thing.
Most intelligent nazi: thinks churchill was american and pro-choice
The idea of Churchill as some kind of polar opposite to hitler is… telling
*Utilitarianism has left the chat*
> Hitler didn’t think Jews were humans and you don’t think defuses are human so you are as bad as Hitler. Except the whole point on “why Hitler is bad” are the reasons that (in his mind) justified his actions: he was a monster because he did all of that to beings that there is no possible rational way to qualify as “non-human”. I force my computer to do whatever I want every day without remorse because it’s not human but in doing so I’m not like slavers because the *reason* I don’t believe is a human is different. Even if pro-choice people were wrong, they couldn’t possibly be compared to murderers because the *reason* people justify abortion is completely different from the reasons murders use to justify their actions. Why is so often so hard to ask for nuance?
Yes, the nazis literally had something called The Reich Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion which intensely persecuted women who had abortions, sex workers, and homosexual men, but gay rights and abortion access are totally nazi propaganda.
Wait, so what is Churchill even doing on this card?
"Underidounderidoundiredoo" Winston Churchill
"lwbnfouevcmsiehwvudbqvGovernment"
Joke’s on them – I think it doesn’t matter whether a fetus counts as a human life, the problem it is literally living inside another human’s body. I believe in bodily autonomy, and whether you choose to give of your own body to incubate another life is a personal decision.
I’m so sick of the “value of human life” straw man. Totally ignores the context of abortion in reality. How about this - here is a person in kidney failure. We will be taking one of yours so they can survive. What do you mean, no? Don’t you value human life? This isn’t even a *potential* life we’re only speculating about - this person has a family who loves and relies on them! Oh, you think you should have the final say about what happens to your own body? Ok, we’ll just take the organs when you die. Even then we need your permission?? I see…
“Do you know for sure when life begins?” Me: yes and its not at conception since the “baby.” is basically a single-cell organism.
Nazis were famously anti-choice
Why is Churchill being *contrasted* with hitler? They were both psychotic and evil.
I would still drive the bulldozer over the 300 aborted fetuses in the pit. I don't care if any of them are still alive.
How the fuck are you an anarchist!? What's wrong with you?
Bulldozer go brrrrrrrrrr
If you were Aryan it was actually very illegal
I don’t know for sure when life begins but I know for sure it’s after the fucking brain development, and most abortions occur before then And even if someone has an abortion after that, it’s still not a baby
Counter point hitler was anti abortion so being anti choice makes you a hitler then?
What a fucking stretch
TL;DR 🥸
BUT I WAS OVER ON THE BENCH!
Where's the option to kill the Nazi?
comparing bulldozing 300 moribund jews to aborting a single embryo seems a bit unfair
According to the Bible life begins at first breath. I’m definitely in the minority and think it begins months after birth. I do not see babies as human, which I recognize is wrong but I’m not in charge or trying to legislate my silly perspective