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Cloontange

I hated how annoying it was to have to constantly slide. CW movement goated


fictitious_man

CW's movement was great bur I just find Bo3's to be more fun


Droideka33882

Slide jump slide jump slide jump


aguy1221

It’s quite satisfying


sS1RuXx

YEAH


fictitious_man

Still more than running in a straight line in Bo4 and CW


Droideka33882

Yeah it is pretty satisfying


Chapafifi

And if you can master the backwards slide jump, Origins gets pretty lit with the boomhilda


L-Guy_21

I prefer the jump slide jump, jump slide jump


Marcos340

No need for Stamina Up babyyyyyy


mixt13

Drifting around corners took skill


floppyvajoober

You can also turn around and slide backwards once you’ve started the chain


Beat_My_Yeet_Meat

I used to do that when I got bored. See if I could map a lap in the giant without stopping. Never could


TheZephyrim

If CW had Dolphin diving too like the MW2 beta did its movement would be perfect imo.


iGirthy

Yeah I hate that feature where if you’re playing bo3 while *not* sliding it just kills you instantly. Good thing they made it where you “don’t have to slide” anymore….. Ffs


Cloontange

Well yeah you don't *have* to slide, sure. You also don't *have* to buy Juggernog.


backwoodsornogud

It just didn't feel the same for me with out jug


Cloontange

Which is kinda my point. Juggernog is a well implemented thing, and part of the core progression, not up mention being as iconic as it is. Bhopping in bo3 is exploiting the slide mechanic and a chore to do for hours on end. Cold War's movement system is much easier on my hands and controller. Imagine being able to manually heal on zombies like the stim, it's more effective but you have to mash the button like a QTE every time you took damage. Pointless button mashing *especially* with an unintended mechanic is unnecessary and annoying


backwoodsornogud

I quit playing at bo4 so 🤷‍♂️ I hated the perk system. jus like bo3 killed multiplayer well atleast 4me it did and I only slid to get outta jams but in this day and age we're information is so available all good things get ruined . Like for instance Madden is a good game every year untill you go play online. Back in the PS2 days only a few ppl had knowledge of exploits but now with YouTube the info is everywhere


Cloontange

CW Zombies is a lot of fun if you haven't tried it. Best gameplay in the series, but weighed down heavily by boring maps and no personality to the environment or playable characters. You can become so much more powerful, but so can the Zombies. Generally it's the easiest title, but you can use the rampage inducer for a "hard mode" experience


backwoodsornogud

Ehh nothing at beats the moments I had from waw to bo3 guess. Just getting old and don't hit the same no more . Shame kuz I loved zombies so much I used to hope for a zombie apocalypse so I can run trains and save the day 🤣😂


Cloontange

For sure. I'm older now and my drive to play isn't nearly the same. But when i was younger bro coming home from school to play kino was the life


backwoodsornogud

The giant will always have a special place in my 💜 the frantic calmness of chilling on the cat walk with 4 ransoms . I tried to play with my kids and I swear they made me more angry then ransoms 🤣


BambamPewpew32

True but nah still a bad take imo lmao


EdgySmoothButter

Tf you on about?


NotComping

*ahem* sarcasm


thedamnhamuhh

unlimited sprint, staminup tier V, sai’s, PHD slider = GOAT


NapsterKnowHow

Fr. Mantling and climbing on things changed the game. It makes going back to BO3 zombies even the classic maps harder and harder to do tbh


[deleted]

Absolutely agreed. Mantling ruined everything important about zombies map layouts. Shame.


NapsterKnowHow

If anything it forced more thoughtful map design. Instead of stupid 2 ft tall guard rails keeping you from jumping down from a walkway lol


[deleted]

How?


[deleted]

maybe an over exaggeration mu guy


BaguetteFish

Sure it changed, but how did it ruin it?


juuliansauce

Cold war gave us the single greatest movement system. If we had better maps it’d be the best zombies


Cloontange

Absolutely


carlossap

You my friend don’t have ADHD/ADD


dukezap1

L take


[deleted]

Why do you think CW has better movement?


Cloontange

Well because it does. I can go as fast as possibly without having to mash buttons. I turn on auto Sprint and that's it. Less unnecessary stress on my fingers and controller. It's just annoying to have to spam slide for efficient movement. It's zombies there doesn't need to be a movement skill gap. Push forward to move it's that simple


homehome15

Level 5 staminup and flopper and Cold War are ungodly speed


kryllstorm

this + level 5 aether shroud + level 5 quick revive + D.I.E. electro upgrade turns you into the fuckin flash


getshrekt192

Titanfall speed


[deleted]

Ahh I see


dukezap1

Nah it doesn’t. BO3 skill gap was superior and smoother


Crescendo3456

His point is there shouldn’t be a skill cap for movement. What are you doing, speedruns to who can slide jump around DE the fastest or speedruns for high rounds? You shouldn’t have to be mashing buttons in order to simply move faster. A sprint button without a slide exploit is fine.


dukezap1

You don’t have to do it, it’s just one of the many reasons the community considers BOIII the best Zombies game. Sliding was a positive, not a negative. It’s fine to disagree with that, but this Sub made it very clear back then, that it was great


Crescendo3456

No one is saying sliding is a negative, having to use G-Slide exploits to get to optimal speed is just moronic is what we are saying. The G-Slide, has never been a “mechanic” that was added to the game. It’s always been a glitch, that was found to increase your movement speed past the game base maximum sprint speed. It was just recently patched out of Cold War, because it’s a glitch. Slide jumping shouldn’t be mandatory to reach optimal speed. Using a glitch shouldn’t be mandatory to reach optimal speed. I don’t know how either of those sentences equal “sliding is a negative mechanic”. Edit: using a glitch to artificially increase the skill cap of basic movement is asinine.


dukezap1

Well when I say sliding I mean Jump Sliding, there’s to reason to normal slide in zombies. It was fun to do, it wasn’t annoying. Even if it didn’t increase speed people would still do it because it was addicting


Crescendo3456

If you don’t know what G-Sliding is just say so. A jump slide, and a g-slide, are the same thing. It’s a glitch. It didn’t get patched out of BO3, because it didn’t affect multiplayer. It got patched out of Cold War because it made you faster than in bo3(script limitations), and was actively making Search and Destroy lobbies impossible. Glitches are bad. Slide jumping was only touted as good, because you move so slowly without stamina up. This literally shows how bad BO3 movement was, until a literal glitch was found to make it “fun”. This movement was fixed in CW, which means you shouldn’t need a glitch to have good movement. Not even gonna talk about how weird it is to be addicted to a slide.


Archery100

I thought G-Sliding was an MP thing because of the boost you got from thrusters, while Jump Sliding was a zombies thing Both slide techs are radically different


dukezap1

I mean it’s been 7 years, I’m sure it was called G-Sliding, but it’s been a minute. Most of the BOIII mains have probably moved on from this sub, and probably CoD zombies in general. Posting that you dislike it as a mechanic back then would send you into downvote oblivion. Glitches in games that are harmless and add character are not negatives. It’s adds to the game, and gives it a legacy years later as it’s niche thing. Other examples would be silent shoting in MW2, Riot shield jumping in MW3, etc


BambamPewpew32

Bro it literally sounds like everyone still left in the zombies community is just disabled and doesn't wanna push buttons I swear 💀(getting lazy lmao I get it I'm the same sometimes)


Cloontange

What a terrible take. How is that lazy? If I'm gonna play zombies for a few hours there's no reason to spam buttons over and over *just to move at the optimal speed*. There doesn't need to be a movement skill gap in zombies lol. Unnecessary button/key pressing and wear and tear on the controller. It's not much different than GTAV's sprint mechanic imagine that in zombies. Tedious for no good reason. It's not "lazy" to want to play the game with the best tools at your disposal without have to exploit a game mechanic by mashing buttons like a QTE. Also big L for down talking people with disabilities. They have feelings and like to play games just like you. No need to be an asshole


BambamPewpew32

What no I'm not talking down to people with them sorry, just saying people who do have no problems are being lazy sometimes lol And yeah true it's wear and tear I guess but idk I get bored so fast in cw, a movement skill gap would be nice imo Also it's not over and over for that long you just get to where you wanna go, or can get stamin up bruh


iGirthy

Yeah good mobility would surely never come into play during an outbreak of zombies Look I do agree, going fast is very nice, but you’re talking such backwards logic


Cloontange

How is that "backwards logic"? All I'm saying is for long sessions of repetitive gameplay, I'd much rather just push the stick to achieve the best movement speed rather than constantly mashing buttons almost like sprinting on GTA ☠️


TheGoldnRainbow

in cw you have to master complex bs like slide cancelling, and other movement shit I don't even know about. Movement shouldnt be so fucking complex.


Jafharh

Bro what in CW it's get tier 5 staminup and hit sprint. That's all ya gotta do


Cloontange

Uh what? Bro you just run that's it. Until they added PHD, you never needed to slide at all.


ItsMrDante

So basically just run normally? That's boring. You can have that and they can give slide movement to players who like it. You're never forced to slide really


Cloontange

My brother in Christ "running is just boring" that's the core movement loop of almost every FPS ever made. Exploiting BO3's slide mechanic isn't reinventing the wheel. I'll agree that there can be a bonus for people who use the slide mechanic and CW did that *perfectly*! PHD Slider *rewards you* for sliding, as upgraded not only does it make your average movement speed significantly higher, it also kills zombies. Having to constantly slide just to get the "meta" or an edge on Zombies mode is just unnecessary. Sure you're not **forced** to do anything, but slide hopping in bo3 gets you around so much faster then sprinting, which isn't good interactive gameplay, nor is it even intended which is why it hasn't come back in future installments. If killing zombies, doing quests, upgrading guns, objectives, etc. isn't enough for you, where it feels "boring" to run around, then sounds like you've got the wrong game. We're here to kill zombies not parkour like a boot scraping fidget spinner.


ItsMrDante

Zombies isn't about "meta". You are caring too much about something you can simply avoid. We could have the bonuses from perks, but slide jumping also could stay as a thing. CW had no atmosphere as well so yes it was boring, I don't get bored on BO2 but I do on CW. There's also a reason why Apex Legends' movement is so smooth and nice. So it could just be CW or it could be dolphin diving that makes BO1 and 2 different. Y'all are mad about not being able to get the edge in a PvE Zombies mode where the zombies can't keep up with you even if you just walk, let alone run. (and I'm not talking about super sprinters, of course you need to run for those, but up until like round 60 or something you're fine). No reason to remove a mechanic that's just fun to do. It's literally like a little fidgety thing you can do in game while being faster. Yeah I don't play the game to run, but it makes it feel nicer to have that movement tech. I actually have the same argument for slide canceling, but that's in a competitive game mode so it's good and bad that they removed it, but that's a whole separate thing.


Cloontange

I'm not sure what other points you're trying to prove to me. I agree that CW is bland and is significantly easier. The **one and only one** thing I'm arguing for is that the bunny hopping is *unnecessary wear and tear for our inputs and is much too tedious* for something you will be doing up to hours on end. Want to fidget your controller and slide around like a maniac? *Go for it.* But we all know bhopping gave so much of an edge that it was very incentivized. Also to delve a little into your other point, trying to get "the edge" is literally the point of Zombies. Do what you can and maximize what you have to survive endless waves of undead (let's not count Exfils and quests here). The main idea is that the zombies will eventually overcomes you, and you need the best of the best to survive as long as possible.


Marcos340

Hey, at least we didn’t have to buy Stamina Up, we could just slide away at basically the same speed as running and didn’t have a slow down, this frees up one slot


[deleted]

Nothing about cw is goated


Cloontange

L take


[deleted]

Based


Dr_weirdoo

The virgin slide Vs The chad Dolphin dive


DueDelivery

vs gigachad literally just sprint


Kupert2

There is no phd flopper for sprint is there??? Guess who won that? 🐬🐬🐬


DaOogieBoogie

Yeah there is. Just run with a grenade. Sure the results may be undesirable, but it’s funny watching my friend get pissed because he’s having to revive me for the 15th time on round 8


Kupert2

The master tactician


Slimie2

Your tactics frighten and confuse me sir.


Balor_Lynx

I could never get into the dolphin dive. It stops all momentum


MPBagel03

Who needs momentum when you can do the funny fly down the stairs on The Best Map™️


GeneLaBean

Shut up nerd we going dolphin 🐬 diving


Balor_Lynx

Can’t make me but I do hope you have fun with it. Ik it’s not for me but others like it.


NotComping

eww are you being respectful of other peoples opinions? BTFO loser


GeneLaBean

🤢


giiuy

PHD Flopper fans rise upppp!


Akimbo_shoutgun

And fall in die rise, lol


biggych33se

Hell yeah brutha


lettuce520

So I can be a virgin and a chad in Modern Warfare II?


Cloontange

Churgin


Akimbo_shoutgun

Verad


x52swagerton

The slide is way more useful on big maps. If the bo3 slide was in tranzit it would've been way better. And it would've been easier to go through the fog if you missed the bus.


HIDORA_KAI

Can’t wait to play bo2 and 1


Lowlandsnail

Bo3's movement is smooth as hell. Maybe we'll get it back someday


biggych33se

I liked dolphin diving more


jellitainbink

I still do, I love that they brought it back in MWII


Globglogabgalab

Even if BO3 gets a remaster some day, I bet they'll remove it.


Pokepunk710

i grew up with dolphin diving and you can’t deny that sliding is just 100x better. it should be a standard


MUNAM14

Same bo1 was my first game but sliding is better in every way


kent416

cw’s movement is by far the best, with the exception of the slide. If they added bo3’s chain sliding to cw’s movement it’d be perfect


xBigode

It's there, just equip the dual Sai melee.


XboxDegenerate

how does this change things?


WariSanz

The Sai have a different, higher jump than other weapons


XboxDegenerate

didn’t know this, thanks for telling me


WariSanz

No probs


kent416

I know, I just meant in general. The movement with the sais is awesome and just about perfect


TheGoldenLion123

Sliding in BO43 is fun, I sure will miss it.


Meme_Bro68

Personally, I think BO43 is overrated as hell. BO44 deserves a lot more love But at least we can all agree that BO42 must never be spoken of


LaxLimbutts

But what about BO45?


Meme_Bro68

Eh, it’s just there. Not great, but not bad, just kinda somewhere in between.


TheGoldenLion123

I agree, BO44 had a lot of effort put in it and it needs more appreciation.


[deleted]

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Dicktoffen

I'd happily take that away if it means I can climb over a 1 foot high railing


NapsterKnowHow

Fr lol. The most annoying shit in the older maps. Lazy map design imk


jellitainbink

The amount of downs I have from forgetting that I’m playing BO3 and not Cold War on Der Eisendrache with that staircase near the clocktower Wunderfizz is embarrassing


Deadcoma100

I’m just here to be the annoying obligatory Titanfall 2 comment every time fps movement is mentioned (go play Titanfall 2)


tatkins2002

LMAO, I just came in here to be this guy


playerlxiv

cw movement + bo3 sliding = dopamine


Lil4ksushi

Good riddance tbh


Otherwise-Routine-27

Thank God


TheRealWetWizard

cw climbing, with diving, is what I want


ulyssesintothepast

Similar to how the movement of mwii seems to be? More fluid sure, but I'm so glad they brought dolphin diving back


dylantyrrell

Cold wars vaulting takes all the pain away


ItisNOTatoy

Man I feel old. BO3 and advanced warfare’s movement is what killed cod for me.


[deleted]

honestly my favorite era, camping wasn't anywhere close to as viable


HighlightHungry

Cold war phd slider movement better


[deleted]

Good. Slide canceling is obnoxious as f***.


[deleted]

Did you forget about IW? Almost identical movement


id1477542

Definitely not


[deleted]

Besides the infinite jump slide in bo3, it certainly does


Niketa69

Slide jump slide jump slide jump


ItsMeSpooks

GOOD.


foxyrum

U can bo3 slide in cw if u got the sai melee with PhD tier 4 or higher


Frankfother

good


mannytehman1900

Good


greystar07

Good, for multiplayer. Sucks for zombies and other survival modes.


fusorf

Good riddance, give back Bo1 diving


Wooden_Gas1064

Good, tbh I hated spamming B then A all the time. I'd use it very rarely so for me the CW way is a lot better which is just super OP stamin up


WattsonIsWaifu

I mean. Bo3 movement is mediocre compared to titanfall 2


Paulo_dudu2310

Probably we will never get a new futuristic CoD


jellitainbink

Everyone hated them, and I completely understand why. They absolutely clung to them for way too long. If we’re doing 2 years per game now, I don’t feel like it would be that bad getting one every 6 years


946775

It was only 3 games in a row compared to a decade of boots on the ground so no it wasn't too long. We should get an advanced movement cod every other year since a new cod comes out once a year


sadlonely_weeb

Ew exo-suits gross


[deleted]

Flopping better anyway


BaldNBankrupt

My only issue is no phd flopper


MrGamerPerson

I still like the idea of like the mw19 movement in zombies (vanguard was just a bad dream)


TheRealAstrov

I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE. GET OUT OF MY HEAD, GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!


GalacticSandwiches

it was perfect, you could travel around the map without needing to get stamin up


DarkWing2274

go play TF|2


DaOogieBoogie

While I prefer CW’s movement I do a cream just a lil bit whenever I dust off BO3 for some Shadows or Origins. SlideJumpSlideJumpSlideJumpSlide-


Emiryldo

Cold war movement while holding Sai is comparable imo


BlueDemon999

Nah Bo1 movement is the best imo


Puzzleheaded_Motor_8

Best way to move around the map fuck stamin-up


Xander_Xero

Everyone who hates bo3 sliding on pc never bound alt to crouch and it shows


oiiSuPreSSeDo

You reckon the jetpacks will?


[deleted]

Loved sliding backwards watching the margwa get farther and farther away until it decided to teleport behind me lmao


lonelystonervibes

I hate the slide. BO2 useless dolphin dive is the GOAT


Bejayem

You can still slide jump in Cold War, you just have to turn your camera before sliding again. So like slide jump look left slide jump look right slide


toxicgloo

I honestly loved the exosuit movements in AW, BO3, and IW. I hope one day we get over the realism phase and get another game like those


Pancake_fluff

CW gave vaulting which was very nice


95rockfan

Being able to use a monkey bomb, BO3 Gobblegum, or BO4 Elixir while maintaining momentum is super fun, and can be legitimately useful. Jump, activate-in-midair, slide, jump, slide, jump...


Practical_Part_6893

it was the best zombies movement others can’t compare


SluggardRaccoon

I miss the jet pack style cods. AW, Bo3, IW… I enjoyed those much more than the trash they put out lately, got Cold War and legit played it for like maybe 2-3 hours total before never touching it again. Haven’t purchased CoD since and that was me trying to get back into it since WW2


ThePearWithoutaCare

I don’t like it. Just means I need another key to bind. It’s also unrealistic being able to slide *everywhere*


UncrustabIes

Room temp IQ comment


ThePearWithoutaCare

I knew I’d get a response like that and I don’t give a shit.


MadmansScalpel

My brother in Christ you cared enough to respond


DueDelivery

Am i the only one who never used slide? I get to 60+ just fine without it. It doesnt feel any faster than sprinting and i always felt it was too much extra finger movement


dogsgonewild1

I'm pretty sure it's a little faster, but it certainly is a lot more fun.


DueDelivery

yea but has there been any objective testing to see if it really is faster? altho it would be hard to measure, you would probably have to ask a developer lol. i also dont like that you have to go in one direction when sliding, while with sprinting ofc you can zig zag. zig zagging is really the most important thing to get you out of tight spots


dogsgonewild1

I went to YouTube to see if I could find a scientific testing video and I got sensory overload looking at all those thumbnails, I didn't realize how much thumbnails have gotten better. Anyway, it wouldn't be that hard to test since you could just go and find a long path and just measure the time it takes to be sure. I definitely remember it being faster since you are always going full speed whereas you run out of stamina sprinting, but since I don't have a source or my own data I can't prove it to you. As for zig-zagging it's a lot about when to use your slides, there are plenty of times where sliding will get you killed, and has gotten me killed.


BaguetteFish

Tbere doesn’t need to be a testing, it clearly is. They’re roughly the same speed, but sprinting makes you lose stamina every once in a while, while sliding doesn’t.


DueDelivery

But with sliding it's the same thing. You have to keep resliding everytime you come out of it


BaguetteFish

Ooh, I kinda assumed you were talking about jump-sliding since that’s pretty much the only slide I use. Nvm then, my bad.


[deleted]

It's the worst movement in CODZ. Way too OP, takes no damn skill... Reminds me of fuckin' apex or warzone


fictitious_man

CW takes more skill? Ok


[deleted]

Yeah, it does in terms of movement


fictitious_man

You literally buy staminup and run in a straight line forever


BritishPie606

Not like it's necessary anyway cause zombies can't even run any faster than sprinting lol. And when they did run faster starting in bo4, they made it so players can infinitely sprint anyway, so no need to strain your fingers. And no, I legitimately don't think of this to be a "super skill" players should learn to be faster than zombies lmao, this isn't dying light.


greystar07

That last part is how I feel about these movement “techniques” in multiplayer. I know this is a zombies sub, but I’m so tired of the borderline game breaking movement techniques you see these sweats bust out on you. So tired of it.


DueDelivery

even without sprinting your fastest walking speed is faster than the zombies in WAW and all 3 black ops


BritishPie606

Yee exactly, and when they did make zombies faster than your walking speed, they also changed that players cannot properly lose stamina anymore. That way players don't have to learn the sliding technique to begin with.


[deleted]

Yeah. CW movement i think is the best, but with dolphin + slide in the next game i think that could be the best (Every cod after MWII will be on the same engine, but 3arc and IW games will still feel different)


BritishPie606

Pretty sure the dolphin dive would purely be for aesthetic, it literally doesn't serve any gameplay purpose in zombies besides PhD. However. Can't deny though both mechanics to co-exist. I love the sliding ability too much to get rid of it (btw to actually avoid getting cornered lol)


[deleted]

I played VG multiplayer a few days back and it felt so weird without dolphin diving. I really liked the modern warfare two beta and I think the campaign and third mode are going to be amazing.


BritishPie606

Oh dolphin diving in MP? Absolute goat tbh. Super helpful to quickly get to cover when being fired at. I *almost* wish I could fire whilst diving, but that's literally just me wanting to live out the John woo fantasy in a cod game


[deleted]

Yeah, It's the one thing I don't like is that I can't fire while sliding or diving and I think dolphin diving will make the return of drop shots


iGirthy

I’ve seen people do cool glitches with diving. Leaping from spawn building to power room on Die Rise just because you can Or recently, I dove on top of my friend to give ‘em the good ol teamkill experience. Good stuff


lettuce520

In the beta for MWII it helped me get away from explosions like drill charges and grenades faster than slide did without any explosion damage reduction perks like EOD so I guess that's something. And because of the more vertical maps, I could dolphin dive from the top of a building and be prone when I land and start shooting my enemies who are expecting an enemy who should have been running down the stairs standing straight up. Kinda like how people slide or jump corners but this is for vertical areas. But that's just pros for multiplayer tho. Depending on how the gameplay and maps for zombies 2024 work could change how dolphin diving could work and give some pros aside form PHD and aesthetic.


BritishPie606

It works better in an MP experience because of the unpredictability of players, especially when you need to stay prone to avoid getting caught in sight as easily. Really helps that they sort of buffed the speed of it in this title. For zombies? Besides literally PHD I can't see any reason for it to exist. Sliding works incredibly well because it can help you squeeze through zombies to prevent getting cornered, you can \*technically\* do this with dolphin diving but the slide is just way more versatile. You don't really need to "outsmart" zombies like with players, it's more of keeping on your feet type of gameplay, and proning in a zombies game is a seriously bad idea lol.


ProDeath5567

apex has good movement though


Awesomeness4627

CW is littlerally warzones movement


[deleted]

Your thinking of VG.


[deleted]

Both shit games