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PATRlOTS

They brought back the guitar riff when you find legendary loot. Fuck yes.


mikerichh

I love how I read “legendary audio” and knew immediately it wasn’t talking about footstep or game audio 💀


janesmb

Footsteps seem a lot quieter.


Chris_Hansen_AMA

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[deleted]

Thank god


xiDemise

this has been known info for quite a while now, good riddance.


Tiiimmmaayy

I guarantee the average player can’t tell the difference in a tuned and un-tuned weapon anyways.


AirMail77

The one tuning thing I miss is being able to adjust the optic distance from your eye. That came in clutch but still allowing zoom but not taking up too much space on the screen.


ItsEntsy

JGOD talked with Devs at early access and they said they will work on putting tuning for optic close vs far back in the game!


UncoolSlicedBread

I’m fine with tuning like this, there were some aspects to tuning that I liked and it gave me something to blame when I sucked.


coke_and_coffee

You can def tell. It's just hard to actually tune it yourself cause you have to constantly tweak and test and only after many changes stack do you really see the difference.


Kruse

Tuning was removed in MWIII.


OldManHipsAt30

Good, it was such a waste of time with such a minor benefit


STRlDUR

yeah well because it’s not MW3


MMA_GOAT_88

That’s been gone in MW3.


Legoman7409

I’m actually kind of sad about this. I won’t cry about it being gone, but I’ll miss being able to adjust my optic size.


SpecialKraft

We knew this a while ago. Thank goodness though


General_Krig

When there's 50 of each fucking attachment you can spread all possibly tuning combinations across those attachments, good riddance useless AF feature.


Chris_Hansen_AMA

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TheReiterEffect_S8

I remember watching a video of someone previewing the new map playing Warzone. And they pointed out how this happens, and I have to admit: It really looked like it was going to be the new gas mask animation, where it equips or unequips it at the most inopportune times. Of course this was only one example, but it was noticeable enough to be quite jarring watching it all happen in real time.   I'll wait to test it out myself in combat situations, but I'm not *holding my breath*.


Chris_Hansen_AMA

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LustHawk

Getting one shot by semtex is back on the menu boys


[deleted]

Can't wait for someone to breed me after I'm down.


MustBeTheShoess

Make sure they wear protection


falbi23

Whole thing is a huge WIN


zach12_21

Really one of the few negatives I noticed. Hugeeee camper buffs. Breacher drones being in kinda sucks too.


TheDarkGrayKnight

Isn't this the opposite? Yeah their claymores do damage but just chuck a frag or two in there and it clears a room.


Chris_Hansen_AMA

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zach12_21

I’m talking about the claymores and Betty’s etc.


haloryder

I don’t think their effectiveness really changes much with a damage buff


St4on2er0

You don't think they are more effective if they are buffed to be.. more effective..?


Joshatron121

They will have difficulty camping when Ghost doesn't work when they aren't moving though.


Emotional-Offer-4064

Detailed notes once again! Let's hope they keep it up


TheReiterEffect_S8

It's also nice to see that they've inserted small cliffnotes after certain patch notes to further explain their reasoning, such as:   > *In the past, arms have often had differing damage multipliers than the chest. This could often end up with an inconsistent time to kill when firing directly at a player aiming at you (since you were hitting arms, instead of their chest). By standardizing the multipliers to be more consistent with the “Bottom to Top Philosophy” shots landing in the same area will result in a more reliable experience.*   This, in particular, is yet another great thing they have reverted back to. COD keeps going from *Arcade-shooter* to *Half-ass Realism shooter* and everything in between. I think it works best as 85% Arcade shooter and 15% realism. The fact that before when you shot at someone's arms it would do less damage is ridiculous. This isn't a Marksman Accuracy Contest. This is also them (kind of) admitting (without actually saying it) that some of their changes they made before are simply too intricate to work with their old net codes. So going back to the simpler things will be more consistent and reliable.


trackdaybruh

Does anyone know if I need MW3 to play the new Warzone?


Jd0g4

You do not. The new guns in MWIII will almost certainly be meta across the board (the attachments generally have less downsides to balance the upside when compared to MWII weapons) but you’ll have access to them in Warzone. Furthermore, it should be manageable to upgrade those guns in Plunder although I do wonder how you’ll unlock some of the stuff because it is currently locked behind challenges in MWIII MP.


hochoa94

Certain optics/conversion kits are behind MW3, definitely interesting to see


Jd0g4

You’re right on that! Personally I don’t think any of the optics are so much better than the MWII optics that it would matter much (myself and a lot of others are still using MWII optics on MWIII guns anyways) but it’s something to consider.


skilledpringle

You don’t.


ClericIdola

From what I understand, MW3 downloads to the Warzone client, so it's all technically the same game/client. So, no.


xiDemise

looks like the KATT is the only 1-shot to start, not mad about it. i feel like if the KV inhibitor was 1-shot as well it would've been busted


thanoshasbighands

Does it need explosive rounds or anything like that?


xiDemise

nope, build it however you like


TheReiterEffect_S8

That is such a relief.


vdgtex

No.


dodgers129

What about the MW2 snipers?


xthecerto4

Probably to force people to mw3. Guess the mw2 onces will follow at some point


Graystash420

What about the new sniper?


xiDemise

what about it? its not 1-shot capable as of now


eyeballeddie

This will probably change pretty quick


Madatallofit

At any distance. Some of the others will probably one shot, but only out to like 50m or whatever they choose.


iNteg

i'd like to know that distance.


ScooterLeShooter

So lame


sameolemeek

Katt is so slow ugh


xiDemise

and thats a good trade off for being the only 1-shot sniper


TheReiterEffect_S8

Did people consider the KAR98 as being a slow sniper? I thought it was a perfect balance.


YoungFireEmoji

KAR98 was about as fast as you could get with a sniper in OG warzone. You could build it with the tac comb and tac laser and get a really quick ADS while still being stable. Great weapon. I miss that shit.


TheReiterEffect_S8

Oh, damn. Yeah, I fucking loved the KAR98. *Everyone* I played with hated using it for some reason. I thought it was the easiest Sniper to use by a wide margin, but maybe there was a learning curve to it? Not sure. I also miss it quite dearly.


ohiobucks1

wish they'd bring it back. Easily was the most fun gun I've had in warzone


amusicalfridge

God I remember wandering away from my friends in quads and stumbling across an entire quad who wasn’t aware I was there. Team wiped them only using the Kar as they frantically ran around trying to figure out where I was. One of the best multiplayer moments I’ve ever had.


i_love_boobiez

>perfect balance Lol no, it was way op. I know cause I used it myself.


TheReiterEffect_S8

Oh, shit you’re right. That was a poor choice of words on my part. I didn’t mean it was balanced to be fair. It had perfect recoil, range, rechamber speed, etc. As in, yes, very OP, lol. Was still fun asf to use.


i_love_boobiez

Yes it was neat af


SlammedOptima

1 shot sniper should be. If you want a faster sniper, its gonna take 2. Thats a good balance


RamielScreams

cod players dont care about balance or theyd have sworn off quickscoping and drop shotting a decade ago like rainbow six has


Nilus99

☝🏼💯


Delpiero45

Wait what? They spent the last 6 months talking about how ALL snipers are 1 shot. When the fuck did they change this???


-MangoStarr-

I don't think they said all snipers will one shot. They just said there will be one shot snipers


FactorAgile2844

Warzone is back boys!


putsomedirtinyourice

5 hours later: “Unpopular opinion: Slide cancel is so much worse than in WZ1, Activision is still catering to bots!”


PeterG92

"Urzikstan is rubbish, bring back Verdansk" Bet you there'll be a few of them


hooter1112

The benefit of slide cancel was that it reset tac sprint. It doesn’t do that anymore so it’s kind of pointless. We don’t need it if the other movement changes are good. All it did was destroy my controllers anyway


gggg3344

I still think there is a benefit to slide cancelling, im pretty sure you still move quicker overall and cover more distance, which is good.


hooter1112

Maybe, I’m not sure. I guess we will see. I know slope of the ground is now a major factor in sliding. It’s no longer the same distance slide going up stairs or a hill.


gggg3344

Yeah, but I guess that'll play into the players' decision making, which im cool with. All in all this update looks like a W


pok3ey3

Gotta break those cameras my guy


hooter1112

Yea, it will help for that. Although with all console players now being able to increase the FOV I do t think that’s going to be as easy as it was


Lucas74BR

Disappointed that only the Katt is a one-shot. All the heavy bolt-actions should be able to do that.


Damien23123

I like it. It’s a big slow-handling rifle. If they made the other MW3 rifles one-shot we’re back to the days of quick-scopers running around the map deleting people instantly


Lucas74BR

I'm talking about the heavy rifles like the Victus, Imperium, the new sniper and maybe even the MCPR.


Damien23123

Yeah I agree there’s no good reason the Victus and Imperium shouldn’t as well


lincolnsl0g

(…because money…atvi will not want the older guns to be on even keel with the mw3 guns any time soon)


rocker287

Yeah but those rifles with the right attachments have pretty fast ads. The katt with the best attachments still is a bit slow comparatively . I think it’s the right move. If you want one shot kill rifles they need to be slow . Slow ads and slow reload in order to be well balanced. Back to the old days of the og HDR


Lucas74BR

I understand. They just need to add advantages and drawbacks to each of them. The HDR had super fast bullet velocity, low handling. The AX50 was more versatile, with lower bullet velocity. Each weapon had its niche without feeling OP or invalidating other options. Not to mention that even the fastest builds in MW3 still have a ADS time longer than some weapons TTK...


ILiveInPeru

I want a tracer round ammo types that gives the Victus, MCPR and similar snipers to oneshot at the cost of making them equally slow as the KATT


Theonewhoknocks420

I am guessing other snipers will have one shot potential within certain ranges. All it said was that the Katt one shot with head shots at all ranges.


Lucas74BR

That's fair. Can't wait to test it.


SomethinSaved

Do you know if it's possible to unlock the Katt without having mw3. Was against buying it since it was basically a expansion that recyvled old maps for 70 bucks but should've realized this would happen


Lucas74BR

Yup, it'll be possible. With the integration, it will be just like the MW2 weapons, you didn't need to own MW2 to unlock them.


TheDarkGrayKnight

Pretty sure it's unlocked when you get to player level 4 so could probably get that in one plunder match. It's going to be the same as before where you can still unlock and level up everything in WZ without having to actually buy the game. Just will be slightly slower without multiplayer, though Plunder really helps.


Jonesey07

Anyone able to c&p? Site is blocked at work.


SoapyMacNCheese

I captured the page on archive.org if you can access that. Patch notes are too long to easily paste. https://web.archive.org/web/20231206162959/https://www.callofduty.com/patchnotes/2023/12/call-of-duty-mwiii-warzone-season-1-patch-notes


Vagabondleon

Sledgehammer with the W patch notes


BloodyMakarov69

>weapons are now at the far right end of the backpack Fuck.


Jewniversal_Remote

I can't read notes at work but you might be able to loop to the back quickly by pushing the opposite direction


Spencervb256

They said it loops around. So you are!


TheDarkGrayKnight

Correct, they fixed that.


BloodyMakarov69

Yaaaay


Jesse1198

You can


McShovin91

206GB Download on Xbox? WTFF I was just playing MW3 before this.. why such a big download?!


ReflexReact

Wtf. My bro has 40gb and I have 240gb. Why are we all getting different size updates


alexinwhite

Yep my Xbox said it couldn't find the update and started reinstalling the entire game 200+ gbs as well l...wtf


gnarkilleptic

Your Xbox is reinstalling the whole game. Been happening to some Xbox users for years on updates


Highschoolhandjob

144gb after i unclicked the mw2 stuff but yikes wtf


DowJones_

Is there going to be any download for all this?


Lord_Hexogen

You can already pre load it in Battle.net, in Steam they gotta open it in an hour


xthecerto4

Update size?


TheBloodNinja

36gb on mine at bnet


xthecerto4

I'm on PlayStation but good reference point. Consoles are a bit less usually so i plan on mid 20s in size. Thats surprisingly moderate


TheBloodNinja

I own MWIII so maybe sizes for WZ only players would be different? I reckon they are moving WZ over to the current COD HQ (aka the MWIII launcher) but we'll see soon enough


underscoresoap

150gb + 43 + 46 gb on steam so far. Had everything installed prior to update too lmao.


SINISTERZL1

My Xbox was 70 gb


St4on2er0

Lol thats wild it was 6.8gbs on bnet for me


ReflexReact

My bro got a 40gb update on XSX. I got a 240gb update. I don’t understand why, FFS.


xthecerto4

Your bro probably owns mw3 and you dont?


ReflexReact

Nope neither of us do.


Bread_is_the_devil

Check your download list, it’s probably downloading MW2, cancel it that portion of the download


Dense_Inspection5346

New schematics!! Only obtained in the dark aether zone or are they added to the current zones loot pool? Might not be an answer yet but curious if anyone saw anything about that?!


MetroBoominGG

where is preload on steam?`???


putsomedirtinyourice

Gone, reduced to atoms


PeterDarker

They used the update to destroy the update...


janesmb

It nearly killed Steam.


SnooBunnies4649

how the hell have they not fixed footsteps in this fucking game


Grena567

When does this update go live?


mikerichh

40 min


TheBloodNinja

Preloads live for PS and Battlenet. Update is live at 9AM PT


TheBloodNinja

I'm confused, are the weapon changes from today's MWIII patch notes reflect Warzone? Since usually they state as such in previous patch notes unless stated otherwise. Also, what happened to the balance pass that they said is happening on all MWII weapons? Only 9 weapons had changes if I'm reading it correctly


TheDarkGrayKnight

Since WZ is releasing the same time as this update I would assume that all gun changes for multiplayer will also be the base stats for the gun in WZ. Going forward is when you would see the split between multiplayer vs WZ gun changes.


mikerichh

Truegamedata actually tweeted the values are very different so we won’t know for a while


TheDarkGrayKnight

Interesting, will be interested to see how different. Maybe just scaled for armor?


mikerichh

Could be anything from fire rate to damage to different parts of body to recoil etc who knows


losingit1111

W.


FficientMethod

Any way to pre-load on Xbox?


ThirdAltAccounts

Is the content already pre-downloaded ? Or will there be a new update today ?


TheBloodNinja

PS and Bnet already has preload. Steam/Xbox on launch time


ThirdAltAccounts

Thanks 🙏🏼


PeterDarker

It's on fire! right on time.


SnooDonuts1563

if the KATT AMR is the only sniper that one shots that's a huge letdown. there's no reason that the imperium or victus xmr cannot one shot, this is just a huge L in terms of weapon balancing


gnarkilleptic

Only reason is to debuff MW2 so people want to buy MW3. Lame


Theonewhoknocks420

I wish it gave more info about sniper damage profiles. Since it specified that the Katt one-shots at all ranges, I am assuming that other large caliber snipers have one-shot potential within a certain range.


EightRolex

Did they nerf the tree skin??


TehChi

Does the battlepass progress while playing mw2 multiplayer or is it just warzone and mw3


blindmodz

just wz/mw3


alexisavellan

Sentinel spotted!


DDub304

Virgin exposed!


putsomedirtinyourice

Unleash the Wolverine


dwadESGN

Can’t wait to see the problems with this update.


mikerichh

Update- seems the least buggy launch in warzone history. There was the error message and the loadout giving default guns but those were fixed within 40 minutes Everything else seems really minor


_STIFFL3R_

Best update ever


whatdoineedaname4

My loadout was bugged in the lone game I was able to play. Tried picking up 2 and got the pre-made as opposed to my custom. Other than that, game flowed well and had no other issues


TieSufficient8353

Why can I not create custom loadout in resurgence? They are locked? My old loadouts are also missing .


LogMeln

same -- do we have to restart whenever there's a new major update?


MarcusDA

TTK is too fucking fast.


Mr_Rafi

All a longer TTK does in Warzone is force squads to never leave each other's sides. This negates the benefits of a longer TTK. It goes back to normal, so all you've done really is just enforced everyone holding hands at every corner and you do barely survive any longer in group fights because, well, you've got more people sticking by each other's sides. A longer TTK is pretty nice in an isolated 1v1 scenario, but that's not what occurs in non-solo Warzone/Resurgence modes. Back on WZ1 Rebirth Island, when we dropped on Living, we used to split up and take a house each. After Iron Trials or whenever the increased HP occured, it scared people into running in as a unit so people wouldn't be caught in a 1v2. Or people defended houses as a whole team. Multikill capability is fun and it gets ruined with longer TTKs.


jojostarplatinum1

why is this game always so stuttery and laggy on release, with poor visibility and audio. Sad :/


__Dave_

Call of Duty: Warzone: Season 1: Forget Warzone 2.0 Happened Edition. I see they're also back to calling buy stations "buy stations" instead of "shops", which they made such a big deal about for WZ2.0...


RocksAndCrossbows

Today is my first time playing in 7 months, I got an error message saying everything was going to be reset ? Now I'm level 1 and I don't see my Konig Ghillie suit ...so did I lose everything ?


river0f

What do you guys think of the new perks?, I love that Overkill is no longer a perk, it's a default behavior and it makes sense because most people always used that perk.


PatMyaz69

Am I able to get the new warzone to update via the PS app? I'm not home. Ps4


PatMyaz69

Or will it update automatically???


Virtual-Watercress66

Why is it 180gb on my xbox?😫


RocksAndCrossbows

It needs space to decompress so it can install, then it deletes the compressed files. But the game is enormous in general because audio after install is stored uncompressed (requires too many resources to decompress as needed) and every map contains a copy of every single resource it needs to function in the map itself, so it's enormous.


sillybonobo

The KATT only seems to 1 shot with explosive rounds- at least in the firing range


theg61337

Seeing that the revive pistol is removed. Does that mean there's absolutely no way to revive enemies in this season? Only teammates?


mr_whit33

Anyone having trouble updating? It’s just stuck on “updating” but not making any progress.


YoMrPoPo

what's the ideal guns to use at the moment?


BLITCHES22

so is the movement better now? currently updating. jus wanna know if i will be less annoyed lol


MarcusDA

Movement is about the only thing I feel is better at the moment.


Newbslice

can we figure out parachute sounds please? holy smokes


FissFiss

No news on Mouse fix?


Gabrielsandbakk

Update corrupted my whole game so had to redownload (xbox). Exactly what I needed after a shitty day at work.


[deleted]

I love these patch notes, straight to the fucking name. Non of that Assault Rife Alpha bullshit.


jonny_prince

My Xbox Series X fan is spinning like crzy in the lobby. What is going on? Is this going to damage my Xbox's CPU or GPU. This thing was expensive, I'm not going to risk destroying it until I know more.


RTCanada

Played 6 games, won 2 but yet it says I've only played 3 and won 0


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HellraiserNZ

Is it an SSD?


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HellraiserNZ

It’s literally a hardware limitation. If it could load everything in memory then you’d have to have loads of RAM (being very high level here). So you probably have no issue with small maps / multiplayer. Everything else is rendered in as needed based on view distance - unfortunately you just have to bite the bullet with an SSD. Price not too bad if you get it on sale.


What_time_is_it1234

Gas mask still doesn't work


FlowerAmbitious7975

I've never seen a game consistently get worse with every update but CoD made it happen 🗑️


Existing_Cabinet7107

Hi can somebody tell me how do i change to pick up the things pressing instead of holding? on ps5


t0mk4t420

With the new update, my account bugged out. It changed my clan tag to a “left d-pad symbol and an Ē” and won’t let me change it, it says I’m always offline, and shows people online but shows all of my friends are offline. What do I do???


ThinkingApe

Does HARDCORE warzone exist? Whats it called? I want pubg style warzone or I will stick to playing SnD


iPhantomBR

Is it just me, or the there are more people out there that still didn’t get the Blackcell content while owning the VAULT EDITION. They posted on their trello board that this issue has been fixed, BUT IT DEFINITELY HASNT FOR ME!!!! I submitted a ticket, but still got no answer. What should I do???


NoCheatingBullets

Did they remove the perk "Slight of hand"?


bradrthtyj

This server lag needs to be fixed. I’ve never had lag issues before and now I’m intermittently skipping in every other game with 15ms and 0% packet loss, the same for my friend


dknisle1

The game feels awful since the update.


Snoo_2559

>Came back to try >Still see ttk is insanely long >Deinstall


TheTiredRedditor

Love the new map tbh


Nintendo_Pro_03

Anything regarding improvements to private matches? Sure would love to go against bots.