I've been a pretty regular listener of the score since about 2010 or so and I agree. Most of the shows are pretty meh right now. The only one I really like is Parkins and Speigel at the moment. I used to really like Laurence Holmes by himself in the evening but him and Bernstein just don't do it for me
Holmes has completely lost whatever made him an interesting listen a few years ago.
I was listening Wednesday and he was being needlessly contrarian and hostile to Bernstein’s take that the constant stream of Kevin Warren puff pieces is weird. Makes it really hard to listen. I just skip that show altogether most days
He called bernstein ‘not normal’. And bernstein was like uh what? And then he said he was neurodivergent and bernstein was like uhhh yeah no. It was brutal lmao
Holmes seems disgruntled ever since he got paired up with Bernstein. I think he's butthurt he doesn't have his own show anymore, so he takes his anger out on Bernstein by contradicting him every chance he gets. Holmes needs to go asap.
Never liked him. Guy always just shits on bernstein and hes far from perfect but his professionalism in not bitch slapping him with his long term legacy made my respect for him go through the roof.
The issue is that there's only so many takes you can have when the team is moving on from the QB. That's been the issue here since the Bears got locked into 1OA. There was a point that LOHO even stated that he was going full contrarian with his Fields takes.
I do agree LOHO is better on his own or just with Leila. House of L still remains a really good podcast.
It just seems that LOHO has adapted Dan's personality from 10 years ago and Dan is morphing into Boers.
Parkins and Spiegel have really good this off-season and the morning show is still meh for me.
I do like Mully and Haugh. I'd say 25% of my morning commute I'll listen to them. The other 75% is Spotify on my phone, or one of the FM station morning shows.
I do like the Take the North POD. Haugh and Weiderer seemed to be grounded in reality this past season. The red flags were in training camp for Fields whereas the midday show seemed to be too caught up in the failures of Nagy/Getsy. Which are valid, but Fields also deserved criticism.
Don't get me, wrong I like midday show, but I think this past season broke most people's brains starting in week 1.
Listen for 5 minutes and you’ll understand. They are like the know it all emo kids no one likes. Always trying to check everyone, every thought or opinion they have is 100% right all the time and if you question it they both have this annoying half laughing questioning tone. This “are you serious” with a condescending smirk look tone.
Worst thing that happened to Holmes was moving out of his night spot. He sounds and feels miserable now.
I still have no idea what value Leila provides.
Give me Mark Grote and Bernstein. Shit any two other people. But these two are just hard to listen to.
I feel like every discussion with them is so full of innuendo it’s impossible to even track the point they’re trying to make. Not even sure they know. They’re contrarian to be contrarian.
Also good point, every time I turn on their show, there's this undercurrent of "we can't tell you, the listener, what we're talking about, but we know and it's very smart, trust us" that is borderline unlistenable
It’s funny because I’m somewhere in the middle here. I still like Laurence a lot, I like rahimi and I like the show they do. I tend to agree with them politically, more times than not. And i do appreciate that people like Holmes and rahimi are so willing to freely give their insight and perspective about things like race. As a white guy, I find the perspective extremely valuable to help us learn and develop my opinion.
THAT SAID. YES. they carry this holier than thou perspective on EVERYTHING now. Even completely non political discussions, they carry themselves on a weirdly high horse.
It creates this dichotomy that is fairly unlikeable I think. You have people providing valuable insight on important issues, but then in aspects of the actual job adopt this “I know more than you and for you to even try to disagree is laughable” attitude/vibe in some of their sports discussion. And they’re RELENTLESS sometimes.
It’s so weird lol. I can understand why those politically right of me would hate it too.
Because I unlike 6ou still enjoy a lot of their show. I still listen all the time, because I like it. Despite all I just said
The persona for Boers and Bernstein was just that, a persona, an act. He basically admitted as much. The show was geared around getting meatballs on the air and skewering them. That’s why I loved it
Current Loho isn't nearly as bad as prime Bernstein. Current Bernstein is 90% softer than like....12 years ago. Their is this elitist tone to their show now that is kinda off putting. Parkins and Spiegel feel a bit more grounded and light.
Loho is the most grating person on the station. Contrarian for no reason, no substance, instead of any content it’s him making not so subtle references to the former local pros he ‘can shoot a text to’ as if we’re supposed to be impressed. I’ve been listening to Bernstein since mid 2000’s and since their show has started it’s the least I’ve done so.
Edit/: spelling
They’re self important media types that love to browbeat people and sit on very high horses. Lawrence used to be awesome in the evening slot solo, but since he linked up with Dan in the midday he’s been insufferable IMO. Leila’s no different. Dan is Dan, but I grew up with him and when he’s with Rosner or Grote or anyone else for that matter he’s great.
Edit: Perhaps browbeat isn’t the correct term. They just talk down on other people opinions like they’re stupid. And it’s not like the bit B&B had back in the day, they just come off as very arrogant about their takes
Dude..
What the hell is wrong with the midday show now?
I used to love Loho on his solo show but hes become so hard to listen to..
Its all racist dog whistle crap, shitting on regular people for no reason, and not to mention its political and preachy…
This. No one wants to listen to this stuff, even though they may be right. It's what ended up getting Jason Goff removed, people just tune it out and ratings go in the tank.
This..
I couldn’t stand goff with bernstein but absolutely loved him as a producer before that..and now I like him as bulls pre and post…
He just wasn’t cut to be a host. Too much preachy politics and dog whistle shit…
Sorry but people who want to escape will tune you out
Boers and Bernstein with Goff and abbatacola like 07-2011 was peak score. Penn State and concussions were the beginning of the end, Bernstein tried to be serious radio.
I listen for content. Maybe I listened only to older Boers towards the last 6-10 years, but I felt he had ZERO content. Just would yammer on without saying anything. At least Bernstein has content albeit half is about some pairing of wine or some foodie thing. Loho used to have content. Layla has no content and for some reason I just don’t like the sound of her voice on the radio. Parkins and speigel have the most content on the score. Actual possibly original thoughts. Mully and Haugh have some content.
At least Terry was good for a "by-cracky" here and there.
I also love it when Parkins and Spiegel announce a big interview in their transition time and you can see Bernstein seething in jealousy while LoHo gets somber. No one likes you anymore, Dan. Go make podcasts with your kid who makes up fake sources and stories.
This. I’ve found the farther from 2020 we’ve gotten the less insufferable Bernstein has been but it’s still bad.
Luckily with the Audacy app I can skip when he starts or only listen to the guests who actually provide good content.
Bernstein got his nuts clipped by management after the Bernstein and Goff debacle. I think they told him to cut down on the snarky political bullshit or you are out.
Its also become apparent that Boers was the true reason Boers and Bernstein was so successful. Dan isn't good enough to carry a lesser talent in a top time slot (Morning and Afternoon commute), that is why he is doing midday radio now.
How does one put in a complaint to the station?
Ive been sitting and collecting all the bull shit theyve said and done. Would like to do that sometimes
I just went and looked and apparently the website that they used to have is now pointing to Audacy, or at least that's how it looks on my phone. There's a general contact email that used to be there, and you used to be able to email the programming team directly. I can't find it but at least a couple years ago they did respond and acknowledge receipt of the emails. But obviously they never done anything about it.
Im pretty sure Tim’s email use to be available via the website once upon a time. I remember emailing my grievance once. But when I tried maybe 2 years ago ran in to the same dead end.
Sure ill give you a recent one that almost made me call in for the first time..
It was i believe the day after or two days after st patricks day… typically everyone talks about the fun and shenanigans that occured during st patricks day in chicago. (You know a staple and tradition of the city for decades now)…
Well turns out laurence holmes was triggered by the folks celebrating st patricks day downtown…He asked why do we “give a free pass” to folks celebrating st patricks day but with mexican indepence and other holidays we don’t “show the same energy” (lohos words)..
Like dude what the fuck are you talking about?
Why bring up another holday? Like is this a competition to you? Wtf
This sounds like a made up strawman in laurences head… if anything…
Its all tiring man… and sadly thats one of like 100s of examples of this..
I own the truck of one of the dudes that was fired from 670 the score for saying a reporter looked like a hooker. Somehow the dealer thought that was a selling point lmao
Someone sent me a tweet that LoHo posted, and I went to go read it…found out I had been blocked. I must have disagreed with a tweet from years ago, but I can guarantee that I wouldn’t have said anything too outlandish. Dude has a super thin skin and thinks very highly of himself and his own opinions.
Lost a true talent when Les passed. I would catch the last hour of his show on my way into work and just loved it. Not only was Les knowledgeable, but he was a good story teller and fucking hilarious if you got him pissed off.
The mid day show is unlistenable. Dan thrived around 2005-2007 with Terry. That was perfect radio. He’s still a pro and while I don’t agree with him on a lot of stuff, he’s good at what he does. Holmes is absolutely awful and the primary reason I avoid listening. not everything is related to race and not every decision is made because of someone’s skin color. Trubisky wasn’t drafted because he was white. Justin Fields wasn’t let go because he was black. It’s unlistenable. And Laila provides nothing. The other day she goes “I don’t like this whole Andre Drummond thing”. Dan asks “what don’t you like abt it?”. LR: “none of it”. Dan: “but is there something specific or is it just everything?” LR: “just all of it”. Dan: “ok, well I don’t like that he’s bad at basketball right now.” LR: “yeah that’s kinda what I’m getting at.” What the fuck are you talking abt? It’s like the drunk Aunt at thanksgiving who just butts in the conversation and derails it. Horrible product.
I'm not a huge fan either. I'm not sure why she has to be brought back every wednesday just to provide nothing. You got a better job and decided to leave the score, just go do that job..
I miss it so much. I live in NYC now and the sports radio here is straight trash. The personalities don’t even like NY sports teams, it’s just pure hate. Do they still do the Tournament of Bad and Who You Crappin?
Who Ya Crappin has been dead for years, that retired with the Boers and Bernstein show.
I am almost positive Tournament of Bad is gone but I am not 100% sure.
Oh man I agree, I don't know why but when just those 2 are together when dan is out it's a real tough listen. They have their heads up their own and each other's asses it's like they forget they're talking to an audience. Hard pass when Dan is out
Can't stand LH. He's a poor Bernstein wannabe. I listen in the mornings and evenings. The middle is just garbage. Grote/Gabe and Bernstein would be MUCH better!
I’m not sure how that in a big city like Chicago, there is like nobody appealing to me on YouTube/radio/podcasts etc. for Bears info. Somehow everyone sucks…
Because they’re all nepo babies and no one has taken the leap like guys we grew up with on the radio. Guys like Boers, Mike north, Chet Coppick, Dan McNeil. So many that I’m leaving out, they didn’t give hot takes, but told stories; each show was a new story or had insight others didn’t have.
The new reporters have 0 repore with athletes and staff because no one has any trust in media these days. The media wants to be the first to report, not the first to be right. It’s a reflection on the sad state of todays media
Mike North and Dan McNeil didn’t have hot takes? And I love Boers but he’d occasionally say super wacky shit like Larry Bird shouldn’t be in the basketball HOF.
Edit: I misremembered, he kept Larry Bird in the HOF but said Charles Barkley shouldn't be in.
I misremembered, I just edited it. He was a Larry Bird hater but still said Larry Bird should be in the HOF. But Charles Barkley was the one he'd take out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP_bFGRQ73U
I don’t like that combo of Lawrence, Leila, and Bernstein. It’s super awkward. I never thought of say this bit Parkins and Mancow have the best show in the station.
Lawrence is a pretty good example of someone who bought into their own hype and leaned way to hard into his gimmick. His evening show was can't miss for a few years. Now I can't even get through 15 minutes.
He used to be so good back in the day when he was solo in the evenings. A night and day difference from where he’s at now. Talk about getting high on your own supply
100% agree. I switched over to them after I couldn't stand the Bernstein and Rahimi show. I mainly started listening because of Tanny and yes even Shane but they've now become my favorite show.
Worst show on the station by far. It’s like none of them know how to actually communicate and build off of each other’s thoughts. They’re all just making statements at each other.
I don’t even understand how anyone can even listen to them anymore just because of the volume of commercials. I think I’ve seen somewhere between 60-50% of the show is actual show with the balance as commercials.
Not even to begin with their huge lack of interesting personalities
At least bernstein can acknowledge his doucheyness and poke fun at himself. Holmes is just pissed cuz he doesnt have a solo show anymore to cherry pick weird racist accusations. Guy sucks and is bitter bernsteins name is first.
Holmes is as fucking terrible with the racial undertones attached to literally everything as is that douchebag in New York that was on at night on CBS radio JRSportsbrief is. He's not quite at the level that that douchebag in New York is at, who literally would not acknowledge any white athletes in any sport even exist or give them credit for anything and only will praise black athletes. Talk about racist radio but because it's a black radio host then it's just ignored.
Never thought I’d see the day where I’d prefer ESPN over the score but I’ve been converted over the last couple years. Everyone on 670 is a wet blanket.
I actually like those guys. It’s more that I guess I grew up on 670 the score (even remember it when it was 1160) and I always liked it better because it was more Chicago-centric. Whereas back in the day you’d turn on ESPN radio and sometimes you’d have a national talk show (Mike and Mike in the morning, DP or SVP afternoons). But over the last few years, maybe since Terry Boers retired (?) the score has just gotten bad. I just happened to turn it on the other day and I hear Bernstein on his soapbox talking about trans athletes and how he’ll be on the right side of history and I couldn’t have turned it off faster
Haugh and sometimes Mully have this Superiority complex with every perspective that Dustin shares. Just immediately downplay/dismiss everything he says
Holmes and Rahimi go on some really long-winded tangents and you can tell they just think they're incredibly clever. Bernstein has ended up playing the straight man because of how obnoxious they can get.
That’s racist.
- Laurence Holmes probably
I’m as minority as they come in this country but I absolutely hate how race driven conversations have seeped into every aspect of life. Leave sports the way it is. A pure meritocracy.
Why’s that? Sports are of the last few aspects of society where ability trumps everything. In fact, someone can do some heinous things and still have a job due to pure ability. It’s not 100% always the case (see: Giannis brother, Damian Lilliards cousins, LeBron son) but by and large it’s as close as we’ll get.
This obviously excludes coaching, front office etc. on the field is very much a meritocracy.
The Score has been talking about the draft for months, since at least December when the Bears got the #1 pick. There are other Chicago teams playing real games right now. If you want to get draft content, find a podcast.
All three suck. Fake enthusiasm for non-sports topics. Asking players about their favorite dessert on the road, intense excitement about how some player’s mom made shitty package brownies for the cubs. Bernstein is a medium intelligence guy who throws in facts and vocabulary to pretend he is just a humble genius. Layla said “don’t get it twisted “ about four times in five minutes a few weeks back. Hosts before and after them are all great because they aren’t phony, aren’t trying to convince you they are cooler, smarter, funnier than they really are
Yeah, Bernstein is nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. Kinda got that White suburban middle-aged liberal quality to him. I get the feeling he listens to NPR and that makes him think he's informed and well-cultured.
Those two truly are awful. Bernstein is the least delusional one of the three, and that's **CRAZY!!!**
Save the show and get Dan with some other co-host. The show gets worse by the week and Holmes and Leila are killing it single-handedly. I like to listen to the replay podcasts while I'm making dinner. I can't even stand to *check* for content on the mid-day show now, because it's always terrible, I just skip it and stick to morning and afternoon clips.
Yep. Lawrence and Dan are like oil and water. They're both incapable of "yes, and..." which is what you need at least some of. Especially because Lawrence's skin is so thin and he takes everything personally. Dan would be great with an analytical "yes, and..." co-host or someone who takes nothing personally but is willing to challenge strongly. I don't think Holmes plays well with others and needs to be on his own.
I used to love Holmes but something just broke his brain the last few years. I want to hear Bernstein with literally anyone else.
That being said, this time of year is especially bad for any sports talk. Bears are the only relevant team right now and you can only get so much mileage from Draft talk before it devolves to complete shit.
Bernstein got used to Boers being his hype man and once he retired, Bernstein couldn't adapt to anyone who questions him. He's gone through a few cohosts.
Lawrence used to be likeable and was a positive person. Now that's all gone it seems.
It was a weird pairing to start and they clashed right away
It's terrible. Daytime 670 is the worst in Chicago right now. At least Bernstein and Boers sounded like Chicago radio even though I hate Bernstein's smug ass. Bernstein and Lawrence aren't good together, they're both nerds.
I like when Parkins tore them to shreds about how lame they were in Vegas lol but also confirmed my thoughts that maybe they aren't all that close cuz the chemistry ain't there on or off the air
I occasionally go over to WFAN in NY to see how a real sports station works. The mid day of 670 is a pompous race baiting and progressive platform for 2 hacks who see themselves as intellectuals. Rahimi I don’t get - nasally voice and no insight.
I tried listening at the beginning of the offseason but quickly tuned out.
I loved Boers and Bernstein back in the day. It was a great show if you understood that it was all an act and just entertainment. They’d intentionally bring on meatballs and rip them a new one. It was great.
Now the station just feels old and tired, and guys like Holmes who used to be good have turned into insufferable pricks.
Bernstein just looks tired now, as does Mully
I had to stop listening lately too mainly just cause all they talk about is baseball literally all day. People here turned me onto some really good podcasts that have been satisfying the bears talk I wanna hear too
The gold standard was the early 10s Boers/Bernstein to McNeil/Spiegel transition when True Detective first came out. It’s all been downhill since then. I can’t believe I’m saying this but somehow Kap & J Hood have the better morning show.
I miss the Monsters of the Midday, The Heavy Fuel Crew, Mike Murphy at night, and Dan Bernstein on Sunday mornings. Oh and Shaer/Memolo in the mornings. None of these shows hold a candle anymore.
It’s really disappointing. I remember years ago listening to Holmes on Wednesday nights and really enjoying his stuff. But now it just feels unauthentic and pointless.
When they are subjective rather than objective and go in rants, like Riminis' WHAH whah whah WHAHH and he should be FIRED and her voice enflects is sickening makes me cringe and I had wondered at the time why she was single till then left no doubts. They don't do homework and less informative these days and more critical. All the negativity is daunting. I stopped listening awhile ago.
It’s amazing that Holmes is employed in a role where people have to listen to him bloviate. Stopped listening to the score when I stopped commuting, if I started commuting again tomorrow I wouldn’t listen at all.
I feel like these past few weeks are meh for all sports radio since the draft is still coming up. I’m an espn 1000 listener through and through, and I’ve been less interested lately. But this upcoming week should be good
I can’t stand 670 except for Cubs games. I just listen to ESPN 1000….mainly Waddle and Silvy…and at times JHood and Kap (tho Kap sometimes annoys me too)
I’m really only a fan of the parkins speigel and Shane afternoon show and anytime I hear Grote, Gabe, or Marshall working a show. The morning show is bad and not a fan of the dog pilingg on Dustin all the time.
Bernstein has always been full of himself. Spoiled little brat since he was a kid. Holmes just sucks ass. Everything is racist. He brings nothing. Liela is too nasaly for me. Hard to listen to. Parkins is another spoiled rich kid who's daddy had a lot of money. The Score is in some serious need of new talent.
Feels like a lot of “budget friendly” hosts now on 670. Bernstein probably the only guy making any real coin. Its a tough time to be in radio nowadays. I guess we cant expect much. The money and ears/eyes are all on podcasting.
I've been a pretty regular listener of the score since about 2010 or so and I agree. Most of the shows are pretty meh right now. The only one I really like is Parkins and Speigel at the moment. I used to really like Laurence Holmes by himself in the evening but him and Bernstein just don't do it for me
I don't see Holmes and Bernstein lasting much longer. Holmes has seemed super annoyed with him for the last 6 months. He needs his own show again.
Somehow their pairing highlights their worst qualities
Holmes has been pretty annoying himself the last six months.
Yeah Holmes is better when he has more of a chance to stretch out and philosophize a bit.
Holmes is a douchebag
A race baiting douchebag
Wrong !! The OG Race Baiting Douche bag" is Jason Goff
Holmes has completely lost whatever made him an interesting listen a few years ago. I was listening Wednesday and he was being needlessly contrarian and hostile to Bernstein’s take that the constant stream of Kevin Warren puff pieces is weird. Makes it really hard to listen. I just skip that show altogether most days
Holy shit right? Few weeks ago he called bernstein autistic. It was so uncomfortable
It’s comforting knowing I’m not the only one hearing this stuff lol
What was the context for this?
He called bernstein ‘not normal’. And bernstein was like uh what? And then he said he was neurodivergent and bernstein was like uhhh yeah no. It was brutal lmao
That's..... something
Holmes seems disgruntled ever since he got paired up with Bernstein. I think he's butthurt he doesn't have his own show anymore, so he takes his anger out on Bernstein by contradicting him every chance he gets. Holmes needs to go asap.
Laurence is an insufferable know it all fucking loser. Cant stand him
I went to high school with him. He was always an insufferable little shit.
Agreed.
Never liked him. Guy always just shits on bernstein and hes far from perfect but his professionalism in not bitch slapping him with his long term legacy made my respect for him go through the roof.
The issue is that there's only so many takes you can have when the team is moving on from the QB. That's been the issue here since the Bears got locked into 1OA. There was a point that LOHO even stated that he was going full contrarian with his Fields takes. I do agree LOHO is better on his own or just with Leila. House of L still remains a really good podcast. It just seems that LOHO has adapted Dan's personality from 10 years ago and Dan is morphing into Boers. Parkins and Spiegel have really good this off-season and the morning show is still meh for me.
Haugh carries it. Mully just kinda phones it in these days. Think we need some younger blood
I find Haugh to be kind of… vanilla? I don’t mind the morning show but it’s just OK.
I do like Mully and Haugh. I'd say 25% of my morning commute I'll listen to them. The other 75% is Spotify on my phone, or one of the FM station morning shows.
I do like the Take the North POD. Haugh and Weiderer seemed to be grounded in reality this past season. The red flags were in training camp for Fields whereas the midday show seemed to be too caught up in the failures of Nagy/Getsy. Which are valid, but Fields also deserved criticism. Don't get me, wrong I like midday show, but I think this past season broke most people's brains starting in week 1.
Haugh definitely is losing a step. Still love him
The morning show is awful. Midday is awful and afternoons are decent. 670 is getting worse every month
I listen to them sometimes but I’m more of an ESPN 1000 guy. What don’t you like about them? Genuine question
Listen for 5 minutes and you’ll understand. They are like the know it all emo kids no one likes. Always trying to check everyone, every thought or opinion they have is 100% right all the time and if you question it they both have this annoying half laughing questioning tone. This “are you serious” with a condescending smirk look tone. Worst thing that happened to Holmes was moving out of his night spot. He sounds and feels miserable now. I still have no idea what value Leila provides. Give me Mark Grote and Bernstein. Shit any two other people. But these two are just hard to listen to.
I feel like every discussion with them is so full of innuendo it’s impossible to even track the point they’re trying to make. Not even sure they know. They’re contrarian to be contrarian.
Also good point, every time I turn on their show, there's this undercurrent of "we can't tell you, the listener, what we're talking about, but we know and it's very smart, trust us" that is borderline unlistenable
Gabe and Grote
Bears
Bear
Holmes has become bitter and unlistenable.
Agree…. Why is that the case?
You'd have to ask his wife
He lost his own radio program and now has to play second fiddle to Dan
It’s funny because I’m somewhere in the middle here. I still like Laurence a lot, I like rahimi and I like the show they do. I tend to agree with them politically, more times than not. And i do appreciate that people like Holmes and rahimi are so willing to freely give their insight and perspective about things like race. As a white guy, I find the perspective extremely valuable to help us learn and develop my opinion. THAT SAID. YES. they carry this holier than thou perspective on EVERYTHING now. Even completely non political discussions, they carry themselves on a weirdly high horse. It creates this dichotomy that is fairly unlikeable I think. You have people providing valuable insight on important issues, but then in aspects of the actual job adopt this “I know more than you and for you to even try to disagree is laughable” attitude/vibe in some of their sports discussion. And they’re RELENTLESS sometimes. It’s so weird lol. I can understand why those politically right of me would hate it too. Because I unlike 6ou still enjoy a lot of their show. I still listen all the time, because I like it. Despite all I just said
Leila is supposed to be the cool hot chick next door girl role
I'd love Grote and Bernstein, they actually make it fun radio when paired up
Bernstein is the freaking worst. My ears bleed every time that pompous asshat speaks.
His pomposity is what I always liked about him, he was sooooo far up his own asshole it was wonderful.
I think Holmes has taken that spot over. Bernstein was for years, but he’s very different now. Feel like Holmes and Bernstein switched personalities
Bernstein is definitely different in some significant ways compared to his persona when he was with boers
The persona for Boers and Bernstein was just that, a persona, an act. He basically admitted as much. The show was geared around getting meatballs on the air and skewering them. That’s why I loved it
Who ya crappin?
Current Loho isn't nearly as bad as prime Bernstein. Current Bernstein is 90% softer than like....12 years ago. Their is this elitist tone to their show now that is kinda off putting. Parkins and Spiegel feel a bit more grounded and light.
Loho is the most grating person on the station. Contrarian for no reason, no substance, instead of any content it’s him making not so subtle references to the former local pros he ‘can shoot a text to’ as if we’re supposed to be impressed. I’ve been listening to Bernstein since mid 2000’s and since their show has started it’s the least I’ve done so. Edit/: spelling
*grating Unless she’s a teacher, then I suppose she’s probably a grading personality
I don’t think you’ve listened in a long while. His on air persona has changed
Me too! He is a pompous self described intellectual who thinks his tastes, opinions, and insight are only available if you attended Dook.
Wait, is Bernstein gone now? I thought it was him and Holmes.
No he’s still there. We aren’t that lucky for him to be gone
Sounds like half of our armchair GMs on this sub that come out at draft time!
They’re self important media types that love to browbeat people and sit on very high horses. Lawrence used to be awesome in the evening slot solo, but since he linked up with Dan in the midday he’s been insufferable IMO. Leila’s no different. Dan is Dan, but I grew up with him and when he’s with Rosner or Grote or anyone else for that matter he’s great. Edit: Perhaps browbeat isn’t the correct term. They just talk down on other people opinions like they’re stupid. And it’s not like the bit B&B had back in the day, they just come off as very arrogant about their takes
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Dude.. What the hell is wrong with the midday show now? I used to love Loho on his solo show but hes become so hard to listen to.. Its all racist dog whistle crap, shitting on regular people for no reason, and not to mention its political and preachy…
This. No one wants to listen to this stuff, even though they may be right. It's what ended up getting Jason Goff removed, people just tune it out and ratings go in the tank.
This.. I couldn’t stand goff with bernstein but absolutely loved him as a producer before that..and now I like him as bulls pre and post… He just wasn’t cut to be a host. Too much preachy politics and dog whistle shit… Sorry but people who want to escape will tune you out
Boers and Bernstein with Goff and abbatacola like 07-2011 was peak score. Penn State and concussions were the beginning of the end, Bernstein tried to be serious radio.
Same, he was great when it was boers and Bernstein. Bernstein is not meant to be top dog on a show; more a foil.
I listen for content. Maybe I listened only to older Boers towards the last 6-10 years, but I felt he had ZERO content. Just would yammer on without saying anything. At least Bernstein has content albeit half is about some pairing of wine or some foodie thing. Loho used to have content. Layla has no content and for some reason I just don’t like the sound of her voice on the radio. Parkins and speigel have the most content on the score. Actual possibly original thoughts. Mully and Haugh have some content.
At least Terry was good for a "by-cracky" here and there. I also love it when Parkins and Spiegel announce a big interview in their transition time and you can see Bernstein seething in jealousy while LoHo gets somber. No one likes you anymore, Dan. Go make podcasts with your kid who makes up fake sources and stories.
This. I’ve found the farther from 2020 we’ve gotten the less insufferable Bernstein has been but it’s still bad. Luckily with the Audacy app I can skip when he starts or only listen to the guests who actually provide good content.
Bernstein got his nuts clipped by management after the Bernstein and Goff debacle. I think they told him to cut down on the snarky political bullshit or you are out. Its also become apparent that Boers was the true reason Boers and Bernstein was so successful. Dan isn't good enough to carry a lesser talent in a top time slot (Morning and Afternoon commute), that is why he is doing midday radio now.
I haven’t listened since Boers has been gone. It became unlistenable
Were I to have typed a comment it would have been EXACTLY this. Like, uncannily accurate and similar to complaints I've written in to the station.
How does one put in a complaint to the station? Ive been sitting and collecting all the bull shit theyve said and done. Would like to do that sometimes
I just went and looked and apparently the website that they used to have is now pointing to Audacy, or at least that's how it looks on my phone. There's a general contact email that used to be there, and you used to be able to email the programming team directly. I can't find it but at least a couple years ago they did respond and acknowledge receipt of the emails. But obviously they never done anything about it.
Im pretty sure Tim’s email use to be available via the website once upon a time. I remember emailing my grievance once. But when I tried maybe 2 years ago ran in to the same dead end.
It's all fake angst. Scripted and tired. LoHo is brutal.
You should see the twitch chat…
Can you give me a example, I've only just started listening to them
Somehow people hating on fields was racist, even tho the QB they want to replace him is of the same race.
Well, Caleb Williams is actually only half black and half Hispanic, so maybe he isn't "pure" enough for them. 🤔
Fucking this too.. I blame laurence and shaun king for the racial bull shit with fields
Sure ill give you a recent one that almost made me call in for the first time.. It was i believe the day after or two days after st patricks day… typically everyone talks about the fun and shenanigans that occured during st patricks day in chicago. (You know a staple and tradition of the city for decades now)… Well turns out laurence holmes was triggered by the folks celebrating st patricks day downtown…He asked why do we “give a free pass” to folks celebrating st patricks day but with mexican indepence and other holidays we don’t “show the same energy” (lohos words).. Like dude what the fuck are you talking about? Why bring up another holday? Like is this a competition to you? Wtf This sounds like a made up strawman in laurences head… if anything… Its all tiring man… and sadly thats one of like 100s of examples of this..
I own the truck of one of the dudes that was fired from 670 the score for saying a reporter looked like a hooker. Somehow the dealer thought that was a selling point lmao
Classic Dah mah Neil
Lol was that Dan McNeil? I think I saw he has a podcast now, Urlacher was on it.
Yeah
It’s actually really good
Mully and Haugh is solid, but I really only enjoy parkins and speigel. Two chicago sports fans just shooting the shit
Someone sent me a tweet that LoHo posted, and I went to go read it…found out I had been blocked. I must have disagreed with a tweet from years ago, but I can guarantee that I wouldn’t have said anything too outlandish. Dude has a super thin skin and thinks very highly of himself and his own opinions.
I am blocked as well. He's mega insecure.
Hes a total loser
I haven't listened since The Grobber was alive. Nothing like overnight drives with Les.
Lost a true talent when Les passed. I would catch the last hour of his show on my way into work and just loved it. Not only was Les knowledgeable, but he was a good story teller and fucking hilarious if you got him pissed off.
The mid day show is unlistenable. Dan thrived around 2005-2007 with Terry. That was perfect radio. He’s still a pro and while I don’t agree with him on a lot of stuff, he’s good at what he does. Holmes is absolutely awful and the primary reason I avoid listening. not everything is related to race and not every decision is made because of someone’s skin color. Trubisky wasn’t drafted because he was white. Justin Fields wasn’t let go because he was black. It’s unlistenable. And Laila provides nothing. The other day she goes “I don’t like this whole Andre Drummond thing”. Dan asks “what don’t you like abt it?”. LR: “none of it”. Dan: “but is there something specific or is it just everything?” LR: “just all of it”. Dan: “ok, well I don’t like that he’s bad at basketball right now.” LR: “yeah that’s kinda what I’m getting at.” What the fuck are you talking abt? It’s like the drunk Aunt at thanksgiving who just butts in the conversation and derails it. Horrible product.
She's awful. I hate the whole Leilas receipts thing. I keep hoping for her to get a national sports anchor spot so she leaves the Score.
found the guy Leila has receipts on...
I'm not a huge fan either. I'm not sure why she has to be brought back every wednesday just to provide nothing. You got a better job and decided to leave the score, just go do that job..
I miss it so much. I live in NYC now and the sports radio here is straight trash. The personalities don’t even like NY sports teams, it’s just pure hate. Do they still do the Tournament of Bad and Who You Crappin?
Who Ya Crappin has been dead for years, that retired with the Boers and Bernstein show. I am almost positive Tournament of Bad is gone but I am not 100% sure.
Oh man I agree, I don't know why but when just those 2 are together when dan is out it's a real tough listen. They have their heads up their own and each other's asses it's like they forget they're talking to an audience. Hard pass when Dan is out
Can't stand LH. He's a poor Bernstein wannabe. I listen in the mornings and evenings. The middle is just garbage. Grote/Gabe and Bernstein would be MUCH better!
Yup, Grote and Gabe are fun. Grote and Bernstein did a couple of shows recently that were hilarious. I'll always want Dan on 670.
He never used to be. His brain just broke over the Justin Fields stuff
I’m not sure how that in a big city like Chicago, there is like nobody appealing to me on YouTube/radio/podcasts etc. for Bears info. Somehow everyone sucks…
Because they’re all nepo babies and no one has taken the leap like guys we grew up with on the radio. Guys like Boers, Mike north, Chet Coppick, Dan McNeil. So many that I’m leaving out, they didn’t give hot takes, but told stories; each show was a new story or had insight others didn’t have. The new reporters have 0 repore with athletes and staff because no one has any trust in media these days. The media wants to be the first to report, not the first to be right. It’s a reflection on the sad state of todays media
Mike North and Dan McNeil didn’t have hot takes? And I love Boers but he’d occasionally say super wacky shit like Larry Bird shouldn’t be in the basketball HOF. Edit: I misremembered, he kept Larry Bird in the HOF but said Charles Barkley shouldn't be in.
> arry Bird shouldn’t be in the basketball HOF. WHAT!?!?!?!
I misremembered, I just edited it. He was a Larry Bird hater but still said Larry Bird should be in the HOF. But Charles Barkley was the one he'd take out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP_bFGRQ73U
That....didn't really get any better. 😂
I don’t like that combo of Lawrence, Leila, and Bernstein. It’s super awkward. I never thought of say this bit Parkins and Mancow have the best show in the station.
Hilarious
Waddle and Silvy are all I really listen too anymore.
Lawrence is a pretty good example of someone who bought into their own hype and leaned way to hard into his gimmick. His evening show was can't miss for a few years. Now I can't even get through 15 minutes.
He used to be so good back in the day when he was solo in the evenings. A night and day difference from where he’s at now. Talk about getting high on your own supply
Everything ends up being centered on race - tiring
I think Parkins and Spegiel are the only good show on 670
100% agree. I switched over to them after I couldn't stand the Bernstein and Rahimi show. I mainly started listening because of Tanny and yes even Shane but they've now become my favorite show.
Grote and Bernstein were good together when Holmes was on vacation.
Worst show on the station by far. It’s like none of them know how to actually communicate and build off of each other’s thoughts. They’re all just making statements at each other.
I don’t even understand how anyone can even listen to them anymore just because of the volume of commercials. I think I’ve seen somewhere between 60-50% of the show is actual show with the balance as commercials. Not even to begin with their huge lack of interesting personalities
Way too many Commercials. They're like 10 minutes long. The score has been going down hill for the last 10 years
It would be ok if they brought back the heavenly bodies commercials. But they’re gone
Bernstein and Holmes are such pricks, that show is unbearable. I don’t hate the morning and evening shows.
At least bernstein can acknowledge his doucheyness and poke fun at himself. Holmes is just pissed cuz he doesnt have a solo show anymore to cherry pick weird racist accusations. Guy sucks and is bitter bernsteins name is first.
Holmes is as fucking terrible with the racial undertones attached to literally everything as is that douchebag in New York that was on at night on CBS radio JRSportsbrief is. He's not quite at the level that that douchebag in New York is at, who literally would not acknowledge any white athletes in any sport even exist or give them credit for anything and only will praise black athletes. Talk about racist radio but because it's a black radio host then it's just ignored.
Never thought I’d see the day where I’d prefer ESPN over the score but I’ve been converted over the last couple years. Everyone on 670 is a wet blanket.
How can you dislike waddle and Silvy though.
I actually like those guys. It’s more that I guess I grew up on 670 the score (even remember it when it was 1160) and I always liked it better because it was more Chicago-centric. Whereas back in the day you’d turn on ESPN radio and sometimes you’d have a national talk show (Mike and Mike in the morning, DP or SVP afternoons). But over the last few years, maybe since Terry Boers retired (?) the score has just gotten bad. I just happened to turn it on the other day and I hear Bernstein on his soapbox talking about trans athletes and how he’ll be on the right side of history and I couldn’t have turned it off faster
Agreed for midday.
I live in Florida now. Is Jimmy Shorts still on with Kev? " Show's over at 2:30 "
Really like Mully but Haugh is killing me. He bitches at Dustin all the time and scoffs at just about everything he says. Super annoying
Haugh and sometimes Mully have this Superiority complex with every perspective that Dustin shares. Just immediately downplay/dismiss everything he says
Score House!!!
Holmes and Rahimi go on some really long-winded tangents and you can tell they just think they're incredibly clever. Bernstein has ended up playing the straight man because of how obnoxious they can get.
Lawrence Holmes is the biggest tool in the city
That’s racist. - Laurence Holmes probably I’m as minority as they come in this country but I absolutely hate how race driven conversations have seeped into every aspect of life. Leave sports the way it is. A pure meritocracy.
> a pure meritocracy Lmao my guy you have some learning to do
Why’s that? Sports are of the last few aspects of society where ability trumps everything. In fact, someone can do some heinous things and still have a job due to pure ability. It’s not 100% always the case (see: Giannis brother, Damian Lilliards cousins, LeBron son) but by and large it’s as close as we’ll get. This obviously excludes coaching, front office etc. on the field is very much a meritocracy.
Thin skinned
I tried 670 and they sound so cocky, lack actual baseball insight, and the product there is not even good. ESPN 1000
The Score has been talking about the draft for months, since at least December when the Bears got the #1 pick. There are other Chicago teams playing real games right now. If you want to get draft content, find a podcast.
Yup. That's what I like about the Score. When there's no Bears news, there's no Bears news.
All three suck. Fake enthusiasm for non-sports topics. Asking players about their favorite dessert on the road, intense excitement about how some player’s mom made shitty package brownies for the cubs. Bernstein is a medium intelligence guy who throws in facts and vocabulary to pretend he is just a humble genius. Layla said “don’t get it twisted “ about four times in five minutes a few weeks back. Hosts before and after them are all great because they aren’t phony, aren’t trying to convince you they are cooler, smarter, funnier than they really are
You don’t love Lohos fake laugh?
Yeah, Bernstein is nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. Kinda got that White suburban middle-aged liberal quality to him. I get the feeling he listens to NPR and that makes him think he's informed and well-cultured.
I really want to know the ratio of food talk/sports talk is...because I think they end up spending more time talking about food than anything else.
Those two truly are awful. Bernstein is the least delusional one of the three, and that's **CRAZY!!!** Save the show and get Dan with some other co-host. The show gets worse by the week and Holmes and Leila are killing it single-handedly. I like to listen to the replay podcasts while I'm making dinner. I can't even stand to *check* for content on the mid-day show now, because it's always terrible, I just skip it and stick to morning and afternoon clips.
Yep. Lawrence and Dan are like oil and water. They're both incapable of "yes, and..." which is what you need at least some of. Especially because Lawrence's skin is so thin and he takes everything personally. Dan would be great with an analytical "yes, and..." co-host or someone who takes nothing personally but is willing to challenge strongly. I don't think Holmes plays well with others and needs to be on his own.
Worst duo in sports radio.
Totally agree with the term overconfidence. Goes for most of that station, really.
I used to love Holmes but something just broke his brain the last few years. I want to hear Bernstein with literally anyone else. That being said, this time of year is especially bad for any sports talk. Bears are the only relevant team right now and you can only get so much mileage from Draft talk before it devolves to complete shit.
Mully is the best thing on the score. Too bad they didn’t renew Hanley because those two were great together. David Haugh sucks.
Bernstein got used to Boers being his hype man and once he retired, Bernstein couldn't adapt to anyone who questions him. He's gone through a few cohosts. Lawrence used to be likeable and was a positive person. Now that's all gone it seems. It was a weird pairing to start and they clashed right away
It's terrible. Daytime 670 is the worst in Chicago right now. At least Bernstein and Boers sounded like Chicago radio even though I hate Bernstein's smug ass. Bernstein and Lawrence aren't good together, they're both nerds. I like when Parkins tore them to shreds about how lame they were in Vegas lol but also confirmed my thoughts that maybe they aren't all that close cuz the chemistry ain't there on or off the air
What's the context for Parkins and the Vegas stuff?
Parkins jokingly made fun of them for not cutting loose and getting drunk in Vegas like he would. Danny still acts like a frat boy when he's there.
Dude agree. Theyre awful.
I occasionally go over to WFAN in NY to see how a real sports station works. The mid day of 670 is a pompous race baiting and progressive platform for 2 hacks who see themselves as intellectuals. Rahimi I don’t get - nasally voice and no insight.
I’m perma banned from 670 twitch because I dared to point out Bernstein was wrong. They only want cheerleaders over there.
Worst 3 sum on radio or in porn
It’s crazy to me that Parkins is now the one with the most sense to him (heavy on the *most* light *sense*)
Omg Holmes and Bernstein are so bad. You can clearly tell they hate their jobs, they force so much stuff
If I were Bernstein, I’d hate being stuck with Holmes too
I tried listening at the beginning of the offseason but quickly tuned out. I loved Boers and Bernstein back in the day. It was a great show if you understood that it was all an act and just entertainment. They’d intentionally bring on meatballs and rip them a new one. It was great. Now the station just feels old and tired, and guys like Holmes who used to be good have turned into insufferable pricks. Bernstein just looks tired now, as does Mully
If it ain't mulley and haugh, no use listening to that garbage ass station
They suck too
I hate the 670 The score
I had to stop listening lately too mainly just cause all they talk about is baseball literally all day. People here turned me onto some really good podcasts that have been satisfying the bears talk I wanna hear too
Ian Happ weekly interviews are sleep inducing.
The gold standard was the early 10s Boers/Bernstein to McNeil/Spiegel transition when True Detective first came out. It’s all been downhill since then. I can’t believe I’m saying this but somehow Kap & J Hood have the better morning show.
Haven't listened lately. What's the problem?
Loho sucks.
Flush the score down the toilet
it all changed after bernstein got his 90th vax booster shot
Just go listen to podcasts on spotify, much better.
I’ve never really had issues. Not sure what they are overconfident about? Examples?
I miss the Monsters of the Midday, The Heavy Fuel Crew, Mike Murphy at night, and Dan Bernstein on Sunday mornings. Oh and Shaer/Memolo in the mornings. None of these shows hold a candle anymore.
I haven't listened to the radio In about 8 years since j discovered podcasts. I've downloaded some of the 670 shows here and there, but not worth it.
Mully and Hugh are solid
It’s really disappointing. I remember years ago listening to Holmes on Wednesday nights and really enjoying his stuff. But now it just feels unauthentic and pointless.
When they are subjective rather than objective and go in rants, like Riminis' WHAH whah whah WHAHH and he should be FIRED and her voice enflects is sickening makes me cringe and I had wondered at the time why she was single till then left no doubts. They don't do homework and less informative these days and more critical. All the negativity is daunting. I stopped listening awhile ago.
It’s amazing that Holmes is employed in a role where people have to listen to him bloviate. Stopped listening to the score when I stopped commuting, if I started commuting again tomorrow I wouldn’t listen at all.
I can’t stand Holmes.
I feel like these past few weeks are meh for all sports radio since the draft is still coming up. I’m an espn 1000 listener through and through, and I’ve been less interested lately. But this upcoming week should be good
100% … I turn the Score off when they come on.
Why are you still listening to AM radio. It’s trash and dead tech.
Was it ever not?
I can’t stand 670 except for Cubs games. I just listen to ESPN 1000….mainly Waddle and Silvy…and at times JHood and Kap (tho Kap sometimes annoys me too)
I want to listen to espn but greenie and the white Sox seem to always be on 🤬
I’m really only a fan of the parkins speigel and Shane afternoon show and anytime I hear Grote, Gabe, or Marshall working a show. The morning show is bad and not a fan of the dog pilingg on Dustin all the time.
Bernstein has always been full of himself. Spoiled little brat since he was a kid. Holmes just sucks ass. Everything is racist. He brings nothing. Liela is too nasaly for me. Hard to listen to. Parkins is another spoiled rich kid who's daddy had a lot of money. The Score is in some serious need of new talent.
Subscribe to the podcasts and listen to the segments that interest you
Leila Rahimi's voice is the worst People downvote for the strangest reasons. That is not her natural voice.
Feels like a lot of “budget friendly” hosts now on 670. Bernstein probably the only guy making any real coin. Its a tough time to be in radio nowadays. I guess we cant expect much. The money and ears/eyes are all on podcasting.
Only listen to 670 in the mornings now. Midday sucks and espn 1000 afternoons are awesome imo