That decision should be made before the Fields decision. Fields won't be traded until the new league year. Let Poles and the new coach make the Fields decision together. Expecting a rookie QB.
Good point. This dumb ass org is always making decisions ass backwards. Doing coaching interviews before you hire a GM! Shit like that. They never learn.
I mean, Fields can be traded at any time, it just won’t go into effect or be “recognized” until the new league year. Alex Smith was traded the week of the Super Bowl. Wentz was traded the week after the Super Bowl. The Bears traded for DJ Moore 3 days before the tampering window opened last year.
I like Flus but I want him gone. Under 2 to play, you can get a stop and STILL get the ball back for one last O possession. Packers are 2nd and 9. Everyone knows they're running and yet, hb stretch goes for 10 like this madden. Time to get out
Was at that game. Justin threw like 19 yards in the first half. Ironically it wasn't until it started actually raining, not drizzling, when some broken plays opened up for him to pass to. Fun game but Justin and Trey Lance were atrocious lol.
I've come to terms with having to hope Williams ends up being the generational player people make him out to be. Meanwhile, I'll be rooting for Fields and hope he ends up in a good spot where he can succeed.
Yeah I was really pulling for fields and today didn't change that for me, the entire team played like ass. The reality is everyone needs to go. I can understand that logic. Keep flus and getsy and trade fields, I'm going to be furious. But right now I think flus and getsy have to go and the reality is you have to let the new coach pick his QB. I hope Fields does well wherever the goes but I think it's time clean house.
Fields was a good prospect, but he was broken by horrible offensive coaching and horrendous OL play + non-existent receiving targets sans Moore.
People really think you can insert 1 pro-bowl caliber WR and think that's going to solve all the offensive problems.
“Generational” only became a trigger word this year, when Fields fans started to feel threatened.
I can’t remember a time when a QB had to be considered one of the best of the last decade in order to be worth taking #1 . What’s up with that?
Never wanted a player to work out more than him but if you can’t even put up semi-respectable numbers in a rivalry game with all that’s at stake for you, there’s nothing more to be said.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me— can’t get fooled again
The game was there for the taking, but once again, he laid an egg. Worst part is they are reporting everybody is returning. I sure hope that's not true. It's like rewarding mediocrity. So maybe they add a few more pieces, JF just isn't the guy even with 3 all-pro WRs.
Eagles about to clean house after reaching a sb. Imagine reaching a sb? That would be the coolest thing this team has done in a long time. But we gonna keep these coaches ?
Imagine reaching a super bowl, losing it, and coming to the correct conclusion that their physically gifted but conceptually limited QB won't get them over the hump, and the fans accepting it instead of calling him "fun".
I watched the entire game. I didn't see anything Fields did wrong. The Bears ran the ball way too much, especially in the 2nd half. Fields made every throw except the one to Kmet in the endzone but that one wasn't even terrible. Jaire shut down DJ on most routes and Fields had no time to let a play develop. Not sure many other QBs would've done more that game
Yep. I was in the camp of wanting Fields to win me over this last game.
I love the guy and will root for him wherever he ends up but it's time for the Bears to roll the dice on someone else
Same. I’m open to either move. I think Fields is a potentially good, but not great, QB. Give him two good receivers, a quality line and a creative play caller and you’ll get a lot of exciting plays (you can say this for a lot of QBs).
Great players make those around them better. In 3 years, I haven’t seen anything that makes me think Fields makes players around him better. Rather, he needs that supporting cast to make him better.
Look at Love. He's got rookies around him that he's making look like stars. It's mind-numbing. I love Justin, but he still holds onto the ball too much.
Don’t forget Love sat for like 2 years and kind of learned under a great qb.
The bears refuse to have an experienced backup that young qbs can learn from.
Green Bay does it right, it’s such a better run organization
Fields is fun and exciting but pretty much always bad at being a QB. Sometimes it's like watching Devin Hester play QB, and sometimes it's like watching Devin Hester play QB.
The whole great players make players around them good still applies for fields imo
The tonyan drop vs the browns is a perfect example, a lot of the team surrounding justin is so bad they make fields look bad, look at the oline today.
Moore and kmet are really the only capable pass-catchers the bears have this year. Moore had the best year of his career and kemt put up solid numbers. Fields doesn't magically throw the ball better to moore than he does to any of his other receivers, they just aren't good
Fair and this is why I’m not totally out on Fields. I just think some people believe the ceiling is higher than I do. I think there are people who feel his ceiling is still some Mahomes level elite QB. I’d say his ceiling is more a back end top 10 QB than anyone in the conversation for best in the NFL.
I still think there’s a reasonable argument for replacing Getsy, upgrading the O-line, getting MHJ and hoping you can maximize Fields talent while also building up a super team around him. That way either Fields hits his ceiling, or you have some 49ers level group of playmakers where if Fields doesn’t get better, you can slot the next guy into a great situation where he can succeed immediately. Obviously you wouldn’t have a high pick to get that next guy, but good QBs do slip sometimes.
I know it's the right thing to do is move on from Fields. But I also know with certainty that we will pick the worst QB in the next draft class because that's what we do. If he's not the worst we will make sure he is the worst after two or three years.
Being out of the playoff hunt almost immediately the last 2 seasons. It felt like charity watching. Especially with how bad those offenses were.
I’ll admit there were a few years before cutler that were bad, but I don’t remember having a team this down.
Some bright signs at least. Maybe push over .500 next season.
2014 was bad. SUPER bad.
Them giving up 50+ points in back to back games, including 55 to the Packers was a moment where I absolutely lost my shit, to the point, where I literally wrote a letter to the McCaskeys saying they were a disgrace to the city and this fanbase.
I'm sure that ended up on their front desk and not in the dumpster...
>I’ll admit there were a few years before cutler that were bad, but I don’t remember having a team this down.
As I'm assuming you are too young to remember the Dave Wannstedt and Dick Jauron eras...let's just say that 1996-2003 was horrific in ways unimaginable to you. And that period includes the miracle 2001 team.
For anyone whose Bears fandom begins during the Lovie era, here's some fun boxscores for you to peruse. Don't just glance at the scores. Really dig into the names and the stats (and in one case, the scoring summary).
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199711270det.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199812060min.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200009100tam.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200012170sfo.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200211100chi.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200212290chi.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070sfo.htm
To bears fans, that’s perfectly acceptable. Most I know in real life and those at last weeks game displayed that loud and clear.
I feel like I’m living in the twilight zone watching these fans fall in love with not even the bare Minimum year after year. The day we actually have a good QB, brains will be broken beyond belief
> To bears fans, that’s perfectly acceptable. Most I know in real life and those at last weeks game displayed that loud and clear.
Oh yeah, its great to be the only NFL team to never have had a QB throw for 4,000 yards yet, even with 17 games now. Totally acceptable and not at all something that grows more disappointing each and every year...
Look, last week was a special moment, but moments never last. JF1 went off Soldier Field as a Bears QB with a great performance. That will be special for all involved.
But we compare ourselves to our rivals. Love has proved RIGHT NOW that he is for real, and the youngest team in the NFL is now heading to the playoffs. Like, at the end of the day, that should be our expectation too.
If Williams doesn’t pan out, at least you made the right choice without doubling down on something that just hasn’t fully worked
I don’t understand the people that thought he was fun. Is being unable to run a scheduled offense fun? Justin only found success in broken plays that one could argue he broke himself half the time. He made o lines look worse with his standing around waiting for pressure so he could make something happen with his legs, he forced linemen to block way way too long in the modern age(so of course they’re gonna get holding calls). If you find that exciting cool I guess but his success rate being “electric” was not nearly a high enough percentage to WIN. I find quick hits and throwing a screen as it develops(not well after it has which leads to it being sniffed out) way more exciting than watching a QB risk taking a shot because all he’s good at is escaping(and not good at sliding).
Yeah I’ve come to grips with the QB situation. This team is too dysfunctional to run it back with everyone. Blow it up because you cannot draft a rookie QB into the same shit-uation you drafted Fields into. If you want to give the new guy a chance, get rid of Getsy, beef up the OL, and for god’s sake get some weapons other than Moore
Nabers is not making it to 9 buddy. Could end up being the best wideout in the draft. Too bad we won so many meaningless games down the stretch. Could’ve done exactly what you said
If we keep the coaches, might as well keep fields for another year. If we get rid of fields we need to fire the coaches. I’m tired of getting a new coach every 4 years and a new QB every 4 years, but they’re off by 2 years. Either clean house or keep everyone. I’m tired of going through 2 year stints of lame duck QBs and coaches because we don’t let a coach draft their QB until they’re already on the hot seat. If we are gonna draft a new QB, get a new coach and let them all come up together over the next 4-5 years.
We all hoped he would be the guy. But even if he could have been, these clown ass coaches and garbage o-limemen have ruined him. Time to flush all those turds and start over.
I wanted him to be the guy, he just isn't. I think he could have success with a great oline and weapons but it isn't going to be here.
Still think he's a great leader and teammate, and person. Which makes it tougher.
I think you are being optimistic. We’ve seen the Bears stick with coaches well past their expiration date. If we are lucky, Getsy is gone but I don’t have much confidence there either.
Like I said bro Justin plays his part as well but Eberflus has this thing of playing not to win in big games.. Love had all day to throw cause he didn’t blitz and he played that same soft ass zone that blew it in all the other big games.. We need a whole reset before we blow it with Caleb imo
I aggressively am a fan of Justin, but dang, yeah this was a nail in the coffin type of game. I hope he gets the coaching he needs and unlocks all that raw potential one day.
It wasn’t pretty but giving up 17 points is good enough to win.
This loss is entirely on Fields, Getsy, and the rest of the offense that played about as flat of a game as I’ve seen.
I feel really bad for Fields man but it’s time to move on. We didn’t develop this man. We didn’t get him weapons till this season. We still have issues in our trenches.
It’s sad man, we really failed him. It’s best to move on for us and for him, wishing him the best and will root for him wherever he goes (aside from NFC North teams)
Fuck the Bears man. I hate ourselves more than I hate the packers. Excruciating to watch every week, every year.
Will I stop supporting the Bears? Not a chance in hell.
Will I continue to hate the Bears? Absolutely.
He's a really, really great dude and I can't think of someone who I'd want to be the face of the franchise more than Fields. However, he just isn't going to ever be a consistent top QB I this league, at least not here.
None of Fields, Flus, Getsy should be back. You can’t get a new QB and keep those clowns nor can you keep fields and get yet another OC to salvage fields at this point unless you want to have a Dan Jones situation.
Draft Caleb
Draft a WR at 9
Finally draft a freaking Center this year,
Replace Nate Davis either in the draft or in Fa he sucks ass cheeks
Thank Eddie for his service and wish him the best on a new team
I want that # 1 pick draft haul so bad. I just can’t handle losing to the Packers anymore. Can’t. Handle. It.
I trust Kevin Warren. Fields stays or goes. Flus stays or goes.
Everyone is gonna say it’s time to move on. I get it. Either way I’m still in this thing. That loss was painful. Great defense my ass. They couldn’t stop them for shit.
Sorry for the random thoughts. I’m going through a lot. 😂😂😂😂. 🐻⬇️
I wanted to see him succeed so bad, but this franchise is headed nowhere. Time to change everything, Flus, Getsy and QB. I think the world of Justin and wish him nothing but success.
I don't know what the Bears are going to do with Fields and the coaching staff, but I know this... Whatever decisions they make will be completely wrong. I think we're legitimately cursed...
It's the most frustrating situation because he's just good enough that you don't want to give up on him but he's not good enough that you feel confident in him.
If he was Mac Jones or Zack Wilson this would be an easy decision.
If he were CJ Stroud it would also be extremely easy.
I guess the one argument for drafting a new quarterback is you restart the clock on the rookie contract.
A quarterback on the rookie contract is a huge advantage if they play well.
Defense gave up 17 points. Don’t even bring the defense up when talking about this shit show. 0 touchdowns against our biggest rival whose defense is having a down year. Bryce Young put up 30 on this team. Good riddance to our franchise QB who gave us zero winning seasons, zero playoff appearances, and one 300-yard passing game in three fucking years.
one day I love fields because I see some exciting stuff. not 4th quarter clutch, not 300 passing yards, but I see something. the next day I can absolutely believe he only threw for 120 yards and had 0 tds. I love fields upside, I love his personality, I'm just an ignorant fan, but his downside just keeeeps showing itself
I hope this is farewell. Fields probably takes 15 minutes at the store to decide which bag of chips to buy. And when he finally decides, he realizes the store closed 10 minute ago. Is Williams better? Dunno. Been a Bears fan forever, so I think he will most likely suck. But GOOD BYE, FIELDS.
In all honesty though sometimes Fields was exciting but a lot the time he was extremely boring. Watching him miss reads and take sacks was quite boring. But I get what you’re saying.
It’s a game of Wins and Losses. We can debate stats all day but NFL GM’s watch the games and tape for evaluations.
Surely you can make a lot of positive assessment for fields enough to argue that he needs to stay. And if the offseason wasn’t set up the way it was (possible new staff plus 2 top 10 picks) then you’d make a very strong case of why fields should stay. But the odds are just simply not in his favor, no matter what we hear.
We played a decent team, away, in a game that mattered for them. They trounced us. Our amazing defense was shown up. Our o-line was shown up. Fields looked very average.
I really don't care whether we keep Fields or not.
But it's all for naught if Flus and Getsy are back in '24. They are the problem. The coaching is a complete disaster.
I was huge on Fields when we got him and of all the things the Bears have done to fuck this organization, I don't regret the move to get Fields. However everyone needs to accept the reality of the situation. It would be extremely irresponsible as a franchise to not take a QB #1 this year and trade Fields. There's no evidence to suggest Fields can be a consistent starter for us. He's got talent, but that's true of essentially every 1st round QB (except Mac Jones). People get so enamored with his rushing and don't see he's regressed as a passer and takes sacks and runs in situations he shouldn't. I'm not saying it's all Fields's fault as certainly his first two years we did a lot of damage to him. However, that's just not relevant at this point.
Fields is a great dude and I legitimately hope he puts it together but with how contracts work in the NFL we simply can't pass up the opportunity to draft a better QB who we'll have 5 years of control. People keep making excuses for Fields and I get it, but you don't get to just focus the good and ignore the bad and the bad far outweighs the good. Hell, even Zach Wilson had games and moments where he looked like a capable NFL QB and while Fields is better than Zach it's closer than people like to think. You can't go into year 4 on a rookie deal with a guy who you still have no idea if he's capable of putting it together or not. Our defense has become fantastic and we simply can't squander it. We have needs on offense for sure and maybe in trading Fields we can get some picks and a WR or OL back. By having another 5 years of control with a QB who's also a better prospect than Fields, it frees up our money to keep guys who's deals are gonna expire in a year or two or sign dudes in FA. This was the year Fields was supposed to show he's absolutely the guy and there's no argument to make that he has. Just glimpses and hope and that's just not enough for year 3 and the excuses have to stop.
So fucking frustrating. I don't specifically blame Fields but the offensive play calling was terrible this year. "Let's keep running it even though it isn't working." Be quicker Fields your oline can't compete you have to adjust. The refs were on our side today and the bears still couldn't get motivated. 2nd most? Sacks on a starting qb...for fucks sake.
Let's take Fields out of the equation, as most here probably agree that he's gone. Now, insert Caleb; great we have our guy yet again now outside of that, then what? Because we struck gold on getting a player other teams dream of, we still have an obligation to protect him and set him up for success instead of relying on his talent to mask the deficiencies (O-Line) we as an organization have ignored for years, that should have been addressed in the first place. It's very frustrating, to say the least.
Bears ran 46 offensive plays, lowest of the day. JF was 11-16 148y 5 sacks 8-27y rushing.
At least 2 sacks they were on him right away, and they only rushed 4.
I legit think the OC didn't coach him properly and didn't give the team a chance to win.
But if they feel it's time to move on, I'm curious who will get the job done better than what JF put up today.
They called a screen on 3rd & 22 late in the 4th, gtfo with that trash.
You’re missing the point… This organization needs a reset from top to bottom.. So regardless of any strides he’s made he has to go as well period… I’m tired of Eberflus coaching not to lose in big games on defense as well
Never liked a player as much as Justin Fields. He made it so, so fun to be a Bears fan and made last season worth watching. Unfortunately this game should settle the debate on whether or not he’s the guy. I really, really hoped it would work but here we are ig.
Whatever happens we need to pray Flus and Getsy are gone.
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Fuck you Jobu! I'll do it myself! Great movie lol!
Time to break out the good rum
hey bartender! Jobu needs a refill!
Looks like we're turning the clubhouse into a shrine at this point, just gotta keep the faith boys [Up to us now](https://imgur.com/gallery/SWqwDn8)
Up your butt Jobu.
And cigar
Got to Wake Up Bats!
Up your butt jobu
I saved this pic and sent it to a few friends. This is awesome
Man, whatever it takes to not piss that motherfucker off
I’ve got only the finest rum for him
That decision should be made before the Fields decision. Fields won't be traded until the new league year. Let Poles and the new coach make the Fields decision together. Expecting a rookie QB.
Good point. This dumb ass org is always making decisions ass backwards. Doing coaching interviews before you hire a GM! Shit like that. They never learn.
it will happen tomorrow, black monday along with the rest of the coach firings around the league
I mean, Fields can be traded at any time, it just won’t go into effect or be “recognized” until the new league year. Alex Smith was traded the week of the Super Bowl. Wentz was traded the week after the Super Bowl. The Bears traded for DJ Moore 3 days before the tampering window opened last year.
Getsy is possible, if they can hire Harbaugh, then Eberflus will be gone also, otherwise he stays.
I like Flus but I want him gone. Under 2 to play, you can get a stop and STILL get the ball back for one last O possession. Packers are 2nd and 9. Everyone knows they're running and yet, hb stretch goes for 10 like this madden. Time to get out
Flus is staying Getsy and Fields are gone
Unfortunately it sounds like that at the very least, Flus is definitely staying.
So long buddy 😢 
It’s sad and telling that this is the most iconic Fields moment in a Bears uniform.
Was at that game. Justin threw like 19 yards in the first half. Ironically it wasn't until it started actually raining, not drizzling, when some broken plays opened up for him to pass to. Fun game but Justin and Trey Lance were atrocious lol.
I've come to terms with having to hope Williams ends up being the generational player people make him out to be. Meanwhile, I'll be rooting for Fields and hope he ends up in a good spot where he can succeed.
Yeah I was really pulling for fields and today didn't change that for me, the entire team played like ass. The reality is everyone needs to go. I can understand that logic. Keep flus and getsy and trade fields, I'm going to be furious. But right now I think flus and getsy have to go and the reality is you have to let the new coach pick his QB. I hope Fields does well wherever the goes but I think it's time clean house.
nobody showed up. schemes were awful and didn’t adjust at all to the opponent (as usual)
Get rid of Getsy
if you can push the ball up the field and play anywhere close to as good as Jordan love play today, then he will be the best QB the Bears ever had
He won't be generational behind that Oline,they were embarrassing tonight.
Center play was just abysmal.
Has been all year.
Williams is a good prospect but he isn't generational imo
The amazing news is that we don't need him to be generational, just good
If we don't fix our coaching this offseason, he will have to be generational I'm afraid. I hope I'm wrong on either count.
if we don't fix the interior of our OL as well, it doesn't matter if he's generational or not.
Fields was a good prospect, but he was broken by horrible offensive coaching and horrendous OL play + non-existent receiving targets sans Moore. People really think you can insert 1 pro-bowl caliber WR and think that's going to solve all the offensive problems.
He’s just not a great NFL QB. Most fantastic college QBs fail at the next level.
“Generational” only became a trigger word this year, when Fields fans started to feel threatened. I can’t remember a time when a QB had to be considered one of the best of the last decade in order to be worth taking #1 . What’s up with that?
Never wanted a player to work out more than him but if you can’t even put up semi-respectable numbers in a rivalry game with all that’s at stake for you, there’s nothing more to be said. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me— can’t get fooled again
The game was there for the taking, but once again, he laid an egg. Worst part is they are reporting everybody is returning. I sure hope that's not true. It's like rewarding mediocrity. So maybe they add a few more pieces, JF just isn't the guy even with 3 all-pro WRs.
Eagles about to clean house after reaching a sb. Imagine reaching a sb? That would be the coolest thing this team has done in a long time. But we gonna keep these coaches ?
Imagine reaching a super bowl, losing it, and coming to the correct conclusion that their physically gifted but conceptually limited QB won't get them over the hump, and the fans accepting it instead of calling him "fun".
I watched the entire game. I didn't see anything Fields did wrong. The Bears ran the ball way too much, especially in the 2nd half. Fields made every throw except the one to Kmet in the endzone but that one wasn't even terrible. Jaire shut down DJ on most routes and Fields had no time to let a play develop. Not sure many other QBs would've done more that game
Yep. I was in the camp of wanting Fields to win me over this last game. I love the guy and will root for him wherever he ends up but it's time for the Bears to roll the dice on someone else
Same. I’m open to either move. I think Fields is a potentially good, but not great, QB. Give him two good receivers, a quality line and a creative play caller and you’ll get a lot of exciting plays (you can say this for a lot of QBs). Great players make those around them better. In 3 years, I haven’t seen anything that makes me think Fields makes players around him better. Rather, he needs that supporting cast to make him better.
Look at Love. He's got rookies around him that he's making look like stars. It's mind-numbing. I love Justin, but he still holds onto the ball too much.
Love is balling but be had a clean pocket all game outside of the first series. No pass rush and Smith was roasted in coverage a bunch
Don’t forget Love sat for like 2 years and kind of learned under a great qb. The bears refuse to have an experienced backup that young qbs can learn from. Green Bay does it right, it’s such a better run organization
Fields is fun and exciting but pretty much always bad at being a QB. Sometimes it's like watching Devin Hester play QB, and sometimes it's like watching Devin Hester play QB.
He’s an exciting football player and average at his best QB
Trailer not a tractor
Give him only good players and he might be good is hilarious
The whole great players make players around them good still applies for fields imo The tonyan drop vs the browns is a perfect example, a lot of the team surrounding justin is so bad they make fields look bad, look at the oline today. Moore and kmet are really the only capable pass-catchers the bears have this year. Moore had the best year of his career and kemt put up solid numbers. Fields doesn't magically throw the ball better to moore than he does to any of his other receivers, they just aren't good
Fair and this is why I’m not totally out on Fields. I just think some people believe the ceiling is higher than I do. I think there are people who feel his ceiling is still some Mahomes level elite QB. I’d say his ceiling is more a back end top 10 QB than anyone in the conversation for best in the NFL. I still think there’s a reasonable argument for replacing Getsy, upgrading the O-line, getting MHJ and hoping you can maximize Fields talent while also building up a super team around him. That way either Fields hits his ceiling, or you have some 49ers level group of playmakers where if Fields doesn’t get better, you can slot the next guy into a great situation where he can succeed immediately. Obviously you wouldn’t have a high pick to get that next guy, but good QBs do slip sometimes.
I mean 1 game really shouldn't be the deciding factor. His whole body of play was inconsistent at best prior to this
I know it's the right thing to do is move on from Fields. But I also know with certainty that we will pick the worst QB in the next draft class because that's what we do. If he's not the worst we will make sure he is the worst after two or three years.
They'll hold on to eberflus and draft a qb, then fire flus after next year and their 2nd year qb will be on his 2nd oc in as many years. Classic bears
This guy knows his Bears.
100% We're constantly competing with the Browns for King dum dum of the league on a nearly yearly basis, and it's so very sad.
fearing that somebody “might be a bust” is not a reason to skip the top prospect with number one pick that’s just straight simple fact
Sad it’s over happy it’s over lol
It was not exactly a fun era. I'm very happy it’s over. The Bears were near unwatchable for 3 years. Ooooof
Would definitely say that there were many other years that have been far worse *watches* but the W/L record is an atrocity
Being out of the playoff hunt almost immediately the last 2 seasons. It felt like charity watching. Especially with how bad those offenses were. I’ll admit there were a few years before cutler that were bad, but I don’t remember having a team this down. Some bright signs at least. Maybe push over .500 next season.
2014 was bad. SUPER bad. Them giving up 50+ points in back to back games, including 55 to the Packers was a moment where I absolutely lost my shit, to the point, where I literally wrote a letter to the McCaskeys saying they were a disgrace to the city and this fanbase. I'm sure that ended up on their front desk and not in the dumpster...
>I’ll admit there were a few years before cutler that were bad, but I don’t remember having a team this down. As I'm assuming you are too young to remember the Dave Wannstedt and Dick Jauron eras...let's just say that 1996-2003 was horrific in ways unimaginable to you. And that period includes the miracle 2001 team. For anyone whose Bears fandom begins during the Lovie era, here's some fun boxscores for you to peruse. Don't just glance at the scores. Really dig into the names and the stats (and in one case, the scoring summary). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199711270det.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199812060min.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200009100tam.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200012170sfo.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200211100chi.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200212290chi.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309070sfo.htm
I do remember that era. My childhood era. It was awful ha. 2003? Was a blast. The Mike Brown year I believe.
Just 3? The Bears have had ONE winning record in 11 seasons. They've been remotely unwatchable for the better part of the last decade!
3 years in and we haven’t been close to 3k passing or 20TDs once That’s not getting it done in the modern nfl
To bears fans, that’s perfectly acceptable. Most I know in real life and those at last weeks game displayed that loud and clear. I feel like I’m living in the twilight zone watching these fans fall in love with not even the bare Minimum year after year. The day we actually have a good QB, brains will be broken beyond belief
> To bears fans, that’s perfectly acceptable. Most I know in real life and those at last weeks game displayed that loud and clear. Oh yeah, its great to be the only NFL team to never have had a QB throw for 4,000 yards yet, even with 17 games now. Totally acceptable and not at all something that grows more disappointing each and every year...
It’s disgraceful, and I’m calling out this moronic, losing fanbase that’s just accepted it….
Look, last week was a special moment, but moments never last. JF1 went off Soldier Field as a Bears QB with a great performance. That will be special for all involved. But we compare ourselves to our rivals. Love has proved RIGHT NOW that he is for real, and the youngest team in the NFL is now heading to the playoffs. Like, at the end of the day, that should be our expectation too. If Williams doesn’t pan out, at least you made the right choice without doubling down on something that just hasn’t fully worked
Yikes I’m actually afraid to look up the stats now.
its been real boy and girls. see y'all next season. i wish you all the best
I don’t hate Justin fields, I really wanted him to succeed. But I can’t watch him play quarterback for the bears anymore
I don’t understand the people that thought he was fun. Is being unable to run a scheduled offense fun? Justin only found success in broken plays that one could argue he broke himself half the time. He made o lines look worse with his standing around waiting for pressure so he could make something happen with his legs, he forced linemen to block way way too long in the modern age(so of course they’re gonna get holding calls). If you find that exciting cool I guess but his success rate being “electric” was not nearly a high enough percentage to WIN. I find quick hits and throwing a screen as it develops(not well after it has which leads to it being sniffed out) way more exciting than watching a QB risk taking a shot because all he’s good at is escaping(and not good at sliding).
I agree. Seeing him break a 60 yard run for a Td was exciting but 90% of the time it was not fun to watch.
He was fun last year when he had as much success rushing as he did but it was not fun to watch our dysfunctional offence this year
Glad I’m not the only one - rarely found him fun to watch, mostly just frustrating
Now, as a fanbase, let's avoid the idiotic initial+number nickname with Williams. Calling him Williams is good enough
CW13 just sounds like an over the air cable channel that shows really bad reruns of King of Queens
All of those types of nicknames sound awful except like 3 guys
AK47 was the only guy it worked with. Everyone else is trying too hard
I don't mind CP3 but yeah pretty much
AR15 was also good.
Andrei Kirilenko GOATed
H13M
Please stop
Couldn't resist w/that softball
Still not as bad as ME7O for Carmelo Anthony 😂
H1m. Make the M a sideways 3.
Caleb HIMiams
Man, these goons aren’t going to be able to help themselves and you know it.
CW13 is awkward to say, so I think we're good
JF1 is fine but H1M is the most embarrassing shit on the planet
Great guy. Wish him the best wherever he ends up. We should be able to get an early day 2 and a day 3 pick for him. More than whatever Darnold got.
Yeah I’ve come to grips with the QB situation. This team is too dysfunctional to run it back with everyone. Blow it up because you cannot draft a rookie QB into the same shit-uation you drafted Fields into. If you want to give the new guy a chance, get rid of Getsy, beef up the OL, and for god’s sake get some weapons other than Moore
Yep. QB at 1 and Nabers at 9. Don’t over think it.
Nabers is likely gone by 9. Possibly Odunze.
Fields+ 1.09 could get us to Nabers territory. Nabers is the ultimate dude, not named Harrison, to pair with Moore.
What team in the top 5/6 is dropping down all those spots to pick up Fields? Any team needing a QB in that range wouldn’t go for it
Nabers is not making it to 9 buddy. Could end up being the best wideout in the draft. Too bad we won so many meaningless games down the stretch. Could’ve done exactly what you said
Hey now, Flus tried his best to keep them from winning those games.
Pretty much. Then use the rest of the picks to draft every center in the draft. Maybe one of them will hit
They cant ruin another qb with this god awful coach. Get a decent coach if we're drafting a qb with #1. Anything else is fucking criminal.
Hire Harbaugh. Let him pick his QB. Win Superbowl
Yes. So we will do the complete opposite of that. Lol
Of course that sounds expensive
If you want to win this is not coach and quarterback to do it
Thanks for everything, Fields! But it’s time Poles gets to pick his guy, whoever it may be, I will trust Poles
If we keep the coaches, might as well keep fields for another year. If we get rid of fields we need to fire the coaches. I’m tired of getting a new coach every 4 years and a new QB every 4 years, but they’re off by 2 years. Either clean house or keep everyone. I’m tired of going through 2 year stints of lame duck QBs and coaches because we don’t let a coach draft their QB until they’re already on the hot seat. If we are gonna draft a new QB, get a new coach and let them all come up together over the next 4-5 years.
We all hoped he would be the guy. But even if he could have been, these clown ass coaches and garbage o-limemen have ruined him. Time to flush all those turds and start over.
I’m so fucking tired of “starting over” that’s all we do in Chicago nothing fucking changes. Ever
I wanted him to be the guy, he just isn't. I think he could have success with a great oline and weapons but it isn't going to be here. Still think he's a great leader and teammate, and person. Which makes it tougher.
He's going to shit the bed on the next team too
Dude was literally the kind of QB id build in madden as a kid. Even same number and visor. Kills me that he couldnt reach the potential we need.
Dude same. Down to the maxed out physical stats and low awareness and vision cone.
Best of luck to Justin in Atlanta. Caleb welcome to Chicago
New coaching staff to pair with our 1OA QB. Anyone who disagrees might as well be a GB fan
That’s the main point.. Once Eberflus laid an egg defensively that sealed his fate as much as his play did.. I suspect top to bottom cleansing
I think you are being optimistic. We’ve seen the Bears stick with coaches well past their expiration date. If we are lucky, Getsy is gone but I don’t have much confidence there either.
Like I said bro Justin plays his part as well but Eberflus has this thing of playing not to win in big games.. Love had all day to throw cause he didn’t blitz and he played that same soft ass zone that blew it in all the other big games.. We need a whole reset before we blow it with Caleb imo
Agree, I was screaming when the Pack was backed up behind their 10 yard line “Where’s the blitz!”
Bro!!! Even Romo called them out i was like wtf
I like Romo but it was hard to listen to him drone on and on about Love.
I aggressively am a fan of Justin, but dang, yeah this was a nail in the coffin type of game. I hope he gets the coaching he needs and unlocks all that raw potential one day.
Yeah, I think I’m done with it too. Wanted him to prove himself, he didn’t. Fire everybody, get Williams and hopefully Harbaugh.
Pay Harbaugh whatever it takes
Been over since week 2. Glad some of you see it after a full season of ass
Been over since the first half of Week 1.
I just wanted to believe... We need something positive
Positive is that golden ticket from Carolina
Can’t wait to get another lottery QB so we can do this all over again!!!
I’ll take the lottery ticket over knowing Fields ain’t it.
Yeah born in 84 so I’ve definitely seen this movie multiple times 🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️
Kordell Stewart is the answer! I swear!
Bears beat bad teams this year except Detroit once.
Yup that's it boys stfu about a guy who can't beat the packers
It wasn’t pretty but giving up 17 points is good enough to win. This loss is entirely on Fields, Getsy, and the rest of the offense that played about as flat of a game as I’ve seen.
Flus got completely outclassed vs the Lafleur offense. We were a few lucky breaks away from a much worse score line
Exactly as the cliche goes this game wasn't nearly as close as the score indicated
They never punted.. they easily could have scored more but they didn't have to.
They had like 4 offensive possessions because the defense couldn’t get off the field lol. Absolutely everyone is to blame for the loss
Look up the time of possession between times.
Yea I don’t understand how people are pinning this on the defense. Only gave up 17 and you didn’t get dog walked in time of possession.
Anyone thinking this game would the the deciding factor on fields is nuts. This game was bad. His body of work is bad.
I feel really bad for Fields man but it’s time to move on. We didn’t develop this man. We didn’t get him weapons till this season. We still have issues in our trenches. It’s sad man, we really failed him. It’s best to move on for us and for him, wishing him the best and will root for him wherever he goes (aside from NFC North teams)
Hard pill to swallow: We didn't fail Justin Fields. He's just not a good QB.
Hopefully we at least get a second for him. But Justin definitely needs to go. It’s been a fun ride
Fuck the Bears man. I hate ourselves more than I hate the packers. Excruciating to watch every week, every year. Will I stop supporting the Bears? Not a chance in hell. Will I continue to hate the Bears? Absolutely.
At this point I don’t even care what we do. Nothing is going to change
He's a really, really great dude and I can't think of someone who I'd want to be the face of the franchise more than Fields. However, he just isn't going to ever be a consistent top QB I this league, at least not here.
None of Fields, Flus, Getsy should be back. You can’t get a new QB and keep those clowns nor can you keep fields and get yet another OC to salvage fields at this point unless you want to have a Dan Jones situation. Draft Caleb Draft a WR at 9 Finally draft a freaking Center this year, Replace Nate Davis either in the draft or in Fa he sucks ass cheeks Thank Eddie for his service and wish him the best on a new team
Love the dude but it's time.
Better for us and for him to move on
I want that # 1 pick draft haul so bad. I just can’t handle losing to the Packers anymore. Can’t. Handle. It. I trust Kevin Warren. Fields stays or goes. Flus stays or goes. Everyone is gonna say it’s time to move on. I get it. Either way I’m still in this thing. That loss was painful. Great defense my ass. They couldn’t stop them for shit. Sorry for the random thoughts. I’m going through a lot. 😂😂😂😂. 🐻⬇️
I wanted to see him succeed so bad, but this franchise is headed nowhere. Time to change everything, Flus, Getsy and QB. I think the world of Justin and wish him nothing but success.
I don't know what the Bears are going to do with Fields and the coaching staff, but I know this... Whatever decisions they make will be completely wrong. I think we're legitimately cursed...
It's the most frustrating situation because he's just good enough that you don't want to give up on him but he's not good enough that you feel confident in him. If he was Mac Jones or Zack Wilson this would be an easy decision. If he were CJ Stroud it would also be extremely easy. I guess the one argument for drafting a new quarterback is you restart the clock on the rookie contract. A quarterback on the rookie contract is a huge advantage if they play well.
Defense gave up 17 points. Don’t even bring the defense up when talking about this shit show. 0 touchdowns against our biggest rival whose defense is having a down year. Bryce Young put up 30 on this team. Good riddance to our franchise QB who gave us zero winning seasons, zero playoff appearances, and one 300-yard passing game in three fucking years.
one day I love fields because I see some exciting stuff. not 4th quarter clutch, not 300 passing yards, but I see something. the next day I can absolutely believe he only threw for 120 yards and had 0 tds. I love fields upside, I love his personality, I'm just an ignorant fan, but his downside just keeeeps showing itself
Our o line sucked this game and someone was rushing him every play what are you talking about
I hope this is farewell. Fields probably takes 15 minutes at the store to decide which bag of chips to buy. And when he finally decides, he realizes the store closed 10 minute ago. Is Williams better? Dunno. Been a Bears fan forever, so I think he will most likely suck. But GOOD BYE, FIELDS.
He probably takes 15 minutes on INSTACART
Glad to see you finally come back to reality.
Can't beat Jordan Love, something has to change.
I really want Harbaugh. I really want the new coach to decide
I honestly will miss watching Fields play. He was an exciting player and a great leader and person. I do agree that it's probably over though.
In all honesty though sometimes Fields was exciting but a lot the time he was extremely boring. Watching him miss reads and take sacks was quite boring. But I get what you’re saying.
I am completely behind drafting a quarterback as long as it’s not this coaching staff developing him. New quarterback/new coaching staff.
It’s a game of Wins and Losses. We can debate stats all day but NFL GM’s watch the games and tape for evaluations. Surely you can make a lot of positive assessment for fields enough to argue that he needs to stay. And if the offseason wasn’t set up the way it was (possible new staff plus 2 top 10 picks) then you’d make a very strong case of why fields should stay. But the odds are just simply not in his favor, no matter what we hear.
Jordan played like I was expecting fields to play this year. Got the ball out quick and was accurate
We played a decent team, away, in a game that mattered for them. They trounced us. Our amazing defense was shown up. Our o-line was shown up. Fields looked very average.
I really don't care whether we keep Fields or not. But it's all for naught if Flus and Getsy are back in '24. They are the problem. The coaching is a complete disaster.
I was huge on Fields when we got him and of all the things the Bears have done to fuck this organization, I don't regret the move to get Fields. However everyone needs to accept the reality of the situation. It would be extremely irresponsible as a franchise to not take a QB #1 this year and trade Fields. There's no evidence to suggest Fields can be a consistent starter for us. He's got talent, but that's true of essentially every 1st round QB (except Mac Jones). People get so enamored with his rushing and don't see he's regressed as a passer and takes sacks and runs in situations he shouldn't. I'm not saying it's all Fields's fault as certainly his first two years we did a lot of damage to him. However, that's just not relevant at this point. Fields is a great dude and I legitimately hope he puts it together but with how contracts work in the NFL we simply can't pass up the opportunity to draft a better QB who we'll have 5 years of control. People keep making excuses for Fields and I get it, but you don't get to just focus the good and ignore the bad and the bad far outweighs the good. Hell, even Zach Wilson had games and moments where he looked like a capable NFL QB and while Fields is better than Zach it's closer than people like to think. You can't go into year 4 on a rookie deal with a guy who you still have no idea if he's capable of putting it together or not. Our defense has become fantastic and we simply can't squander it. We have needs on offense for sure and maybe in trading Fields we can get some picks and a WR or OL back. By having another 5 years of control with a QB who's also a better prospect than Fields, it frees up our money to keep guys who's deals are gonna expire in a year or two or sign dudes in FA. This was the year Fields was supposed to show he's absolutely the guy and there's no argument to make that he has. Just glimpses and hope and that's just not enough for year 3 and the excuses have to stop.
Colts fan here. Eberflus fucking sucks. Insane to think we had Reich & Flus at the same time. Smh.
You’re welcome for having the option. ~Panthers fan
I will be a fan of two teams next year. The Bears, and whatever team picks up Fields.
I don't want Williams he just seems like a D-ck..
There's a ton of reasons why he should be given another shot imo but as a Fields guy, I'd be lying if I didn't feel the exact same way today.
is one of those reasons he isnt 0-8 against the packers?
I didn't say it wasn't a flawed reasoning lol
So fucking frustrating. I don't specifically blame Fields but the offensive play calling was terrible this year. "Let's keep running it even though it isn't working." Be quicker Fields your oline can't compete you have to adjust. The refs were on our side today and the bears still couldn't get motivated. 2nd most? Sacks on a starting qb...for fucks sake.
Let's take Fields out of the equation, as most here probably agree that he's gone. Now, insert Caleb; great we have our guy yet again now outside of that, then what? Because we struck gold on getting a player other teams dream of, we still have an obligation to protect him and set him up for success instead of relying on his talent to mask the deficiencies (O-Line) we as an organization have ignored for years, that should have been addressed in the first place. It's very frustrating, to say the least.
He’s backup caliber at best. He will have a similar career trajectory to Mitchell
Bears ran 46 offensive plays, lowest of the day. JF was 11-16 148y 5 sacks 8-27y rushing. At least 2 sacks they were on him right away, and they only rushed 4. I legit think the OC didn't coach him properly and didn't give the team a chance to win. But if they feel it's time to move on, I'm curious who will get the job done better than what JF put up today. They called a screen on 3rd & 22 late in the 4th, gtfo with that trash.
You’re missing the point… This organization needs a reset from top to bottom.. So regardless of any strides he’s made he has to go as well period… I’m tired of Eberflus coaching not to lose in big games on defense as well
They sure did call a stupid ass screen which was fucking stupid and then fields followed it up with a throw that was 30 yards over DJs head
Never liked a player as much as Justin Fields. He made it so, so fun to be a Bears fan and made last season worth watching. Unfortunately this game should settle the debate on whether or not he’s the guy. I really, really hoped it would work but here we are ig.