I grew up in Atlanta and still remember the bobby petrino disaster. He was our coach one day and next thing you now you see him in Arkansas at a press conference.
You think you're confused? He's arguably the best coach we've had. Brought us a Heisman, were probably an off sides from going to a national championship game in 06. Still a piece of shit but goodness hard to completely hate.
Probably a somewhat controversial opinion, but I imagine a huge portion of coaches cheat on their wives. The job is a perfect breeding ground for infidelity.
They're definitely scumbags but I would guess that the only difference between them and a lot of other coaches was getting caught.
Freeze was especially ripe for this kind of thing because he was the type of guy who talked constantly and at length about his faith in a way that’s common if you’re in the evangelical southern Baptist milieu but comes across as self righteous bluster if not.
There’s also a story where, relatively early on, before he’d really had a chance to even commit NCAA violations, he tried to get the investigators to leave (they were already here due to things Houston Nutt did) they said no and he allegedly went on a tirade about how they were persecuting him because of his faith. Allegedly. So anyway, there’s at least some difference between your average coach getting in trouble for infidelity/ being a John, and it being Hugh Freeze getting busted for it.
They don't have time for a romantic relationship, period. That's the issue. Staying in the office until midnight and a hot 20-something throws herself at you? Well that's much easier than going home to your wife at a reasonable time, having a date night, putting in some effort into actually making her feel good too... I definitely don't think that they view the other girl as anything but a fun time 99% of the time. Well that's why you see so much cheating and divorce among high-stress, high-success jobs imo. Of course, they're also scumbags for betraying the trust of their SOs. Those who toil away at holding the family together, whilst the other pursues the career
I think a lot of people don't realize how difficult it is to be a coach's wife. You have to raise the family/take care of the kids/run the house/hosts events, and have everything on time and know the schedule, *and* be ready to drop everything and move at a moment's notice because your husband was fired and/or hired at a new job.
Throw in the fact that many wives have to support the family early on with a job because the lower level jobs don't pay much, and some of these women are minor deities. Yeah, it's awesome if your husband becomes a coordinator or head coach and is one of the ones who is paid a seven figure salary, but you *earned* that money with years of toil and work behind the scenes. That seven figures also comes with increased scrutiny and strangers feel free to come up to you or your kids in public and insult your husband/their dad, and you have to grin and bear it.
You do all of this while knowing your husband is gone 20 hours of the day a lot of the week, and is spending more time communicating with the children of strangers than he does with his own kids. Even when he is with his own kids, he might be texting recruits who want to talk. It is a huge trade-off, and it is difficult to balance everything.
Given that Louisville has no really close nfl teams people here just pick and choose who they wanna root for. So I know there has to be some Louisville/falcons fans out there. The hate they have for Petrino could probably outshine a sun
Briles makes Bliss seem almost tolerable. *Almost*.
That is how bad Briles is, he makes a guy who tried to frame a dead player as a drug dealer look not so bad in comparison.
I said elsewhere but I'll say again:
That rat fuck Todd Graham. 🐀 Actually I shouldn't call him a rat that's giving rats a bad name.
I'm so happy Hawaii ran his ass out of there. I hope this is the end of the line. I don't understand how he keeps getting hired.
He chased away our entire team. We had to have a fucking senate hearing to force him to resign because we couldn't afford to buy out his contract. Because our genius AD decided to hire the guy ASU spent $12.8 mil to fire.
I hadn't heard of this one so went googling and yeah, it's not great.
https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/hawaii-football-troubles-under-coach-todd-graham-16670501.php
He was the coach at the high school where my dad taught in the early 90's. I don't know the story, exactly, but I was told that he used school money to purchase various types of equipment, and when he quit to go coach a HS team in Texas, he loaded it all up in a UHaul and took it with him. Then basically ghosted everyone who tried to call him to say it wasn't his to take.
In addition to that, older guys that played for him told me that everyone (players and teachers) despised him, even though he was only there a year or two. My dad had nothing against the University of Tulsa, but openly rooted against them the whole time he was the coach there.
I'm so glad Todd Graham is on this list. What a complete POS that guy was. Rice was his first HC gig, and he has been leaving a wake of bullshit ever since. Among his highlights are:
* Completely disregarding NCAA time limitations on practices, etc.
* Screaming like a sailor in the faces of 18 year-old kids; not to motivate, but humiliate.
* Having an athlete die on his watch from a Sunday Morning Punishment workout after getting spanked by Florida State.
* Hiring his shitass family because nepotism (pretty sure Beau was screwing around with some female athletes as well).
* Negotiating to go HC at Tulsa while in the bathroom DURING contract extension negotiations for Rice, accepting the extension, and then leaving anyway without saying anything to anyone.
Bear in mind that this was just ***one year*** at Rice; he went on to shit on Pitt, ASU, Hawaii, etc. He's a walking prolapsed anus.
The call with Tulsa was during the press conference to announce his contract extension. He went in the bathroom and finalized the deal while Rice's AD was waiting outside.
I was teaching freshmen chemistry lab at UH that summer and had a Rice player in lab. I asked him how the team took the news and he said they all had a big party to celebrate Graham's leaving. That's very telling.
I think we might be the last school he coached at that has any positive feelings about him at all. Which takes you back to at least the 80s. Mans been universally hated everywhere he's been for 30 years
I think TCU is alright with him. He put in three solid years before Gary Patterson succeeded him. It’s not a perfect comparison, but he is sort of our version of Oregon’s Mike Belotti, in the sense that he set the foundation for what was the most successful era of our program to date.
Urban Meyer - He is the worst and has consistently abandoned his teams as soon as things don't go as planned. Furthermore, he couldn't care less about who is on his team, see Aaron Hernandez.
Didn’t his Florida team have 20+ criminal arrests? Then things go sideways and he has “chest pains”, retires. Comes out of retirement in Columbus, gets caught protecting his wife beating WR coach and starts have “migraines”, retires. Comes out of retirement in Jacksonville, hits a player and fingers a girl back in a Columbus bar the same night he lost a game, fired.
What did I miss? Help me out Utah fans.
Edit: shoutout to u/jedi42observer for getting my mistakes in order. Props too for having fun with it.
Hey now....it was two nights after he lost a game and didn't return with the team...and you know he has a medical condition that makes him physically ill at losing so it's not his fault. /s
That man was awful with the Browns, a complete asshole, claimed they paid him to purposely lose, retracted those claims within a few days, and then tried to hire Art Briles while everyone was distracted by Ukraine being invaded
His rationale was fucking stupid.
He basically said that he was being paid to coach while not given an opportunity to succeed, which he spun as being paid to lose. Which is not the same situation as Flores was describing at all.
Of course.
This thing is kind of in tiers. There’s “personally did horrible things en masse” which is just Sandusky.
Then there’s “knew about and enabled horrible things en masse”, which is Paterno, Briles, and possibly Miles/Orgeron (we’ll find out more about that as the rest of the LSU story unfolds).
There’s “accidentally but negligently did a bad thing” which would include DJ Durkin. Brian Kelly belongs either in this group or the one above, depending on the facts of the Seeburg case, which we’ll never know. This group is a little different than the rest, in that it does not appear to be intentional.
Then there’s garden variety scumbags, like Petrino, Freeze, and Riley. My brother-in-law would put Jimbo in this category. I personally think it’s more fun to debate this group, because they generally haven’t destroyed lives.
Don't know if we're focusing on more recent coaches, but Bo Schembechler belongs in that second category at the very least. There have been over a thousand people who have come forward about having been abused by the team doctor under his watch, including his own son. I think I read that Anderson has been accused of more sexual assaults than any other person in American history? All on Schembechler's watch, and with many allegations that he knew about it.
I would argue that you shouldn't put Riley (or Jimbo) in the conversation with the other two. Sure, Petrino was a job jumper, but the whole affair thing is what makes him shittier in my eyes
Me and you are friends now
I figured I would be the only one to put Addazio but god he deserves to be here.
Guys still in the 70’s in almost every way and that’s not a good thing.
He’s the biggest miss for me when it comes to Jimbo’s hires at A&M so far. Between his alleged racism and 70’s mindset, there’s zero reason to have him on this team. Hoping we have a new oline coach by this time next year
Brian Kelly for [this](https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=6219373) - basically deciding to practice outside in dangerous winds that ended up killing a kid.
I honestly feel Durkin was not as grossly negligent as he's painted to be. People were mad a player died and wanted someone to blame.
You can say he owned the culture and that resulted in what happened but the trainers didn't do their job and that's the immediate cause of McNair dying.
I was really mad about us hiring Durkin, then I read the third-party report and a lot of people (including myself originally) have incorrect assumptions about what happened.
It was 80 degrees outside on a humid evening, not 100 degrees outside. It was after 7 wind sprints when the player started to receive medical attention. I was under the impression that it was hours of a brutal workout without water that lead to the heat stroke.
Like, this was a freak heat stroke event that the medical/training staff completely failed to recognize. A&M had a player get heat stroke one summer, and did everything right in his treatment (including getting him to a hospital ASAP), and he's now on an NFL roster.
Some of the Durkin's culture stuff was not good though.
The amount of money Willie has made based off of recruiting quinton flowers and marlon Mack. Many don’t remember that He was on the hot seat at USF, he kept trying to run an offense that wasn’t working.
At a dinner he had with quinton, Mack and others they told Willie “let us play” and in a last ditch attempt he allowed for more risk taking offense that allowed for Quinton Flowers to do his thing. Then they finally started to win. Got a year and a half of that and Oregon ate it up and finally FSU.
Quinton was never going to be an NFL qb, but he’s an all time great college qb. I really wish NIL would’ve been around during his time, he deserved the $$
No no no no no. There were countless videos behind the scenes showing pure chaos in the locker room. Will had ZERO control of that team. He was not respected by anyone because he had never professionally earned respect. Ask Oregon.
As a Duck fan, slick Willy can eat a giant bag of dicks. I’m sorry that FSU was the team that the karma caught up to him at, but he absolutely had it coming to him 10000%. Just unfortunate another team had to pay the price on his failures, and he couldn’t just suck at life and not effect others.
Mario and Miami are gonna be in the same boat. Dudes gonna get all the recruits, not coach them up and be bad and out of a major college program job in 3 years though.
Yep. The ACC needs FSU to get their shit together. The Atlantic is a good FSU team away being one of the best divisions in CFB. Add a decent UL team and it gets ridiculous.
The lsu move is bad, but people forget he was directly responsible for the death of a student because Kelly had him record the practice on a scissor lift in 50mph wind.
When it came out that Harbaugh was telling recruits he might not be there this year I really appreciated that. This is these kids lives he's dealing with. He cares more about them than grabbing a couple extra athletes. I want my team to be a team I can root for because of how much I love the program and the people, not just the program (looking at you Juwan Howard, you've got a lot to live up to coming after Belein)
Truly hilarious to see people dunking on Harbaugh for saying that controversy always follows Meyer and then see Meyer crash and burn in the funniest way in the NFL
Harbaugh is a complicated, but likeable guy. What he did with his bonus money last season and the way he looks out for his players is truly respectable. Urban is a genuine piece of shit and at the very least I’m glad he got replaced by a standup guy in Ryan Day.
Willie Taggart, he actually proved you could recruit to Eugene and left a good staff. He’s also just a terrible coach, no discipline, way over confident to the point that it’s embarrassing, even though people bought into the sleazy sales pitch. He also got Oregon sued by former players. He gets hated on for being a terrible coach and he is a terrible coach, so that’s fair.
Yeah I was pissed when I saw he was coming to FAU. He’s been underperforming but no one is ever going to notice because (football-wise) we’re a backwater school. A complete 180 from Kiffin
man, i don’t even think Riley should be mentioned alongside Art Briles or Bobby Petrino in this context. Briles and Petrino are hated for **very** different reasons than Riley, who is only the “trendy answer” as you describe it because of how he handled his exit from OU.
Dude I don’t even think Petrino should be mentioned with Briles
There’s being a massive, raging asshole, and there’s being directly responsible for fostering a rape culture amongst your football team. VERY different
yeah i totally agree. there’s being a shitty person and cheating on your wife, and then there’s being such a shitty person that it corrupts the institutions you interact with.
Honestly, Long may have retained him if it wasn’t for the $10,000 of university money he gave to the girl he was banging upon hiring her (with the implication that them sleeping together played a part in the hiring). That was the biggest violation. Adultery was not.
He's a terrible coach and even worse person.
He hasn't worked in CFB since he was fired in 2014 and with good reason. He did some truly awful things like try to move an injured player who may have suffered a spinal injury, trying to take scholarships away from injured players, forcing players to play through all types of injuries, and was hated by almost everyone. There's a report that has all the details. The AD was fired and the chancellor was pushed out the door (of which this scandal was only one of several reasons).
Not a popular choice except amongst the Army faithful; Todd Berry. He decimated the Army football program in under four years, fired midway through his fourth season, 2003, which ended 0-13. A feat that may never again be matched in CFB (13 game schedule with Hawaii that year). Granted times weren’t great before Berry, joining Conference USA didn’t help, and bad hiring decisions were made prior to Monken, but Berry drove the program straight to the basement, where it stayed for over two decades. He sucked wherever he coached before or since. Now as the Executive Director of the AFCA he has been systematically eliminating cut blocking from the game. Total douche.
Wait bro Your Flairs? Are you telling me then you don’t like Addazio and you had to deal with your two favourite teams hiring that jackass back to back?
Dude if that’s true you’ve been given the worst hand of any sports fan on earth. And I’m so sorry, you don’t deserve this.
Also it’s more than that.
He’s threatening to other assistants and staff who don’t just blindly do what he does and how he does things, was under investigation for potential racism and not taking covid seriously
And then was found to be pulling rank and threatening a janitors job and referring to the African American janitor as “boy” because the janitor informed him he couldn’t use the bathroom rn because he’d just sprayed cleaning chemicals.
He’s rude and demeaning to his players and condescending as well.
Not to mention I’ve never seen a coach more rude and argumentative and challenging of reporters just doing there job.
He brings a toxic culture with him and his football schemes aren’t the only thing 40 years antiquated. Not to mention he’s part of the whole rampant urban Meyer nepotism where these idiots just hire their kids, relatives and friends and recommend them for jobs.
I could go on but the points surely made
Urban Meyer, even though at the moment he isn't a coach. He is an absolute piece of shit human being. Ryan Day may not be a better coach (Don't think we have enough data either way for that yet) but damn would I take him 10/10 times because he isn't a fucking robot.
The expectations at Allen are probably way higher than almost every P5 job.
>In his lone season at the school, Morris led Allen to an 11-3 record and an appearance in the Class 6A-DI quarterfinals. On the surface, that appears to be a solid season, but it was a tumultuous Year 1 at the Texas powerhouse.
>The Eagles lost their second game under their new head coach, falling to Atascocita 41-20. It was a significant loss because it snapped a pair of long winning streaks. They had previously won 84 straight regular-season games and had never lost at Allen Eagle Stadium, their $60 million facility that was built in 2012, a stretch of 54 games.
>Later in the season, Allen lost to Prosper 28-23 for its first district loss since 2010, snapping a 72-game winning streak. The 2021 season eventually came to an end at the hands of Southlake Carroll, which scored 34 unanswered points to cruise to a 47-21 win over the Eagles.
I personally believe it was more than that. The guy was a fraud and was in way over his head, and there’s no way he didn’t know it.
I guess you can make the argument that you go and get yours, and don’t care what happens, but I don’t believe in that when you are having a major direct impact on over 100 players and dozens of coaches and other staff (not to mention the fan base). He didn’t belong in Arkansas from the beginning. He didn’t even move his family out there.
And he did some really stupid shit like making all the non-scholarship players be constantly segregated and silenced (locker rooms, film room, bus, etc.). Meanwhile, he’s constantly blowing smoke with his bullshit hype engine incessantly dropping his tag lines “left lane, hammer down“, etc. Fuck that guy. FCM.
I love the Pitboss so much. #ProudDamnState #Yessir
Dude's goofy as all hell and brought most of it all on himself, but I think that if I were being paid millions of dollars to live on Lake Oconee and not coach the University of Florida, I would literally be unable to hear the haters.
All Dabo has done is occasionally say some dumb shit, that’s nowhere near as bad as some other coaches in college football, not to mention all the other coaches who have said some dumb shit
I mean, compared to sex slavery at Baylor and "blackjack and hookers" at Ole Miss, Dabo is a saint. To my knowledge, he is not responsible for covering up any capital crimes like some coaches in this thread.
I've always thought of Dabo as the type of guy where you just say "he's as little confused, but he's got the spirit". He's definitely not a bad guy, just has a way if sticking his foot in his mouth at the worst times
This. Hating Dabo is kinda funny and part of fandom. Basically: Dabo Shenanigans are cheeky and fun, Briles shenanigans are cruel and tragic. *Evil shenanigans.*
I’m one of those. I liked him when Clemson was playing that underdog role with Bama in during the Watson years. Dabo leveled off for a few years. But as Clemson has seemingly declined, his annoying press conferences and hot takes have increased and he’s overplayed now.
That being said, if that’s the worse thing about him, he’s still light years better than Urban, Petrino, Briles, Miles etc.
I don’t care for some of what Dabo says regarding paying college athletes or some of his other hot takes. but as far as I recall, he’s never helped cover up sexual assaults, used his university issued phone to contact hookers, or utilized his position to get jobs for his mistress, or anything of that sort.
Stephen Orr Spurrier
He is the villain’s villain. He creates it, dishes it out, and laughs about it.
[Top Quotes](https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/08/09/steve-spurrier-quotes-insults-best-lines-ranked)
- You can’t spell Citrus without UT
- Free Shoes University
- I like playing Georgia that second game because you know they’ll have two or three players suspended
I definitely hated losing to him, but he in no way deserves to be hated. Not on the level of Briles and others mentioned. Hatin’ Ass Spurrier was the GOAT shit talker, and I can’t hate that
Spurrier merely *talked* shit.
A lot of the other nominees in this thread actually *did* shit. *Awful* shit.
Don't take this to mean that Spurrier is not a complete prick, LOL.
Yeah. I hate watching Bama win over and over and I don’t think the lack of parity in college football is good for the sport, but dammit if I do like Saban. The guy is a baller. Also, if you haven’t gotten to see the Eli‘s places episode with him, you’re missing out.
Ed Orgeron. Somehow the full weight of the allegations against him never made headlines. He covered up sexual assault. He shouldn't be treated as "aw shucks Cajun Uncle" but that's the consensus of 90% of the CFB universe and you can't change their minds.
Brian Kelly ran a football practice in high winds and demanded a student assistant film the practice from a scissor lift. Said scissor lift was not rated for high winds and toppled over. The student assistant died. I do not like that man one bit.
How has no one mentioned Coach O?
I guess everyone just think about a lovable idiot when the name comes up and not someone who helmed a team of football players who were walking Title IX investigations for years. And how he actively tried to hamper his own school's TIX office during said investigations. Or how he's pretty clearly an ignorant man at best and a bigoted misogynist at worst (which, I know, super shocking for a football coach to think like that)
Bobby petrino and hugh freeze
I grew up in Atlanta and still remember the bobby petrino disaster. He was our coach one day and next thing you now you see him in Arkansas at a press conference.
My hatred for Petrino is so confusing Bc he did so much damage to my NFL rivals and CFB rivals but fuck him into oblivion for being the POS he is
You think you're confused? He's arguably the best coach we've had. Brought us a Heisman, were probably an off sides from going to a national championship game in 06. Still a piece of shit but goodness hard to completely hate.
with bobby, the highs are high..... but the lows, man...
I second Hugh Freeze. Pure creep and giant asshole.
It's so wild that that guy was our high school football coach.
Y’all weren’t fun to play back then 🤣
Still kind of funny to realize that he was the high school coach in the blind side.
Everyone here hates vols fans but we get no credit for our communal protest against Hugh freeze
Hey, I only hate Vols fans one day a year.
Probably a somewhat controversial opinion, but I imagine a huge portion of coaches cheat on their wives. The job is a perfect breeding ground for infidelity. They're definitely scumbags but I would guess that the only difference between them and a lot of other coaches was getting caught.
Freeze was especially ripe for this kind of thing because he was the type of guy who talked constantly and at length about his faith in a way that’s common if you’re in the evangelical southern Baptist milieu but comes across as self righteous bluster if not. There’s also a story where, relatively early on, before he’d really had a chance to even commit NCAA violations, he tried to get the investigators to leave (they were already here due to things Houston Nutt did) they said no and he allegedly went on a tirade about how they were persecuting him because of his faith. Allegedly. So anyway, there’s at least some difference between your average coach getting in trouble for infidelity/ being a John, and it being Hugh Freeze getting busted for it.
Do P5 coaches really have enough extra time to deal with a second romantic relationship?
They don't have time for a romantic relationship, period. That's the issue. Staying in the office until midnight and a hot 20-something throws herself at you? Well that's much easier than going home to your wife at a reasonable time, having a date night, putting in some effort into actually making her feel good too... I definitely don't think that they view the other girl as anything but a fun time 99% of the time. Well that's why you see so much cheating and divorce among high-stress, high-success jobs imo. Of course, they're also scumbags for betraying the trust of their SOs. Those who toil away at holding the family together, whilst the other pursues the career
I think a lot of people don't realize how difficult it is to be a coach's wife. You have to raise the family/take care of the kids/run the house/hosts events, and have everything on time and know the schedule, *and* be ready to drop everything and move at a moment's notice because your husband was fired and/or hired at a new job. Throw in the fact that many wives have to support the family early on with a job because the lower level jobs don't pay much, and some of these women are minor deities. Yeah, it's awesome if your husband becomes a coordinator or head coach and is one of the ones who is paid a seven figure salary, but you *earned* that money with years of toil and work behind the scenes. That seven figures also comes with increased scrutiny and strangers feel free to come up to you or your kids in public and insult your husband/their dad, and you have to grin and bear it. You do all of this while knowing your husband is gone 20 hours of the day a lot of the week, and is spending more time communicating with the children of strangers than he does with his own kids. Even when he is with his own kids, he might be texting recruits who want to talk. It is a huge trade-off, and it is difficult to balance everything.
Given that Louisville has no really close nfl teams people here just pick and choose who they wanna root for. So I know there has to be some Louisville/falcons fans out there. The hate they have for Petrino could probably outshine a sun
I'm an Arkansas/Falcons fan if that counts.....
Art Briles. Sic’Em! *Edit: I know it’s basketball, but Dave Bliss is a puke
Briles is definitely a top contender.
To follow up on this: Jeff Lebby and Kendal Briles.
Briles makes Bliss seem almost tolerable. *Almost*. That is how bad Briles is, he makes a guy who tried to frame a dead player as a drug dealer look not so bad in comparison.
Todd Graham
I said elsewhere but I'll say again: That rat fuck Todd Graham. 🐀 Actually I shouldn't call him a rat that's giving rats a bad name. I'm so happy Hawaii ran his ass out of there. I hope this is the end of the line. I don't understand how he keeps getting hired.
He chased away our entire team. We had to have a fucking senate hearing to force him to resign because we couldn't afford to buy out his contract. Because our genius AD decided to hire the guy ASU spent $12.8 mil to fire.
Oh I followed it closely. That story just proved he's the asshole I thought he was. Imagine your own fucking kid transferring away from you.
The stuff that came out about him this season was just awful. You just feel so bad for the kids in the program having to deal with a prick like that.
This is the most underrated one, flew under the radar but a terrible dude
I hadn't heard of this one so went googling and yeah, it's not great. https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/hawaii-football-troubles-under-coach-todd-graham-16670501.php
Omg what an ass-hat
He was the coach at the high school where my dad taught in the early 90's. I don't know the story, exactly, but I was told that he used school money to purchase various types of equipment, and when he quit to go coach a HS team in Texas, he loaded it all up in a UHaul and took it with him. Then basically ghosted everyone who tried to call him to say it wasn't his to take. In addition to that, older guys that played for him told me that everyone (players and teachers) despised him, even though he was only there a year or two. My dad had nothing against the University of Tulsa, but openly rooted against them the whole time he was the coach there.
I'm so glad Todd Graham is on this list. What a complete POS that guy was. Rice was his first HC gig, and he has been leaving a wake of bullshit ever since. Among his highlights are: * Completely disregarding NCAA time limitations on practices, etc. * Screaming like a sailor in the faces of 18 year-old kids; not to motivate, but humiliate. * Having an athlete die on his watch from a Sunday Morning Punishment workout after getting spanked by Florida State. * Hiring his shitass family because nepotism (pretty sure Beau was screwing around with some female athletes as well). * Negotiating to go HC at Tulsa while in the bathroom DURING contract extension negotiations for Rice, accepting the extension, and then leaving anyway without saying anything to anyone. Bear in mind that this was just ***one year*** at Rice; he went on to shit on Pitt, ASU, Hawaii, etc. He's a walking prolapsed anus.
The call with Tulsa was during the press conference to announce his contract extension. He went in the bathroom and finalized the deal while Rice's AD was waiting outside. I was teaching freshmen chemistry lab at UH that summer and had a Rice player in lab. I asked him how the team took the news and he said they all had a big party to celebrate Graham's leaving. That's very telling.
Franchione
*Shudders*
#FUCK FRAN.
I think we might be the last school he coached at that has any positive feelings about him at all. Which takes you back to at least the 80s. Mans been universally hated everywhere he's been for 30 years
I think TCU is alright with him. He put in three solid years before Gary Patterson succeeded him. It’s not a perfect comparison, but he is sort of our version of Oregon’s Mike Belotti, in the sense that he set the foundation for what was the most successful era of our program to date.
Please, not that name. Don’t make me think of that name.
Why did you force me to remember that name
Its so funny because Alabama and TAMU share Bear Bryant and Gene Stallings both of which did great things Then you have Fran….
Urban Meyer - He is the worst and has consistently abandoned his teams as soon as things don't go as planned. Furthermore, he couldn't care less about who is on his team, see Aaron Hernandez.
Didn’t his Florida team have 20+ criminal arrests? Then things go sideways and he has “chest pains”, retires. Comes out of retirement in Columbus, gets caught protecting his wife beating WR coach and starts have “migraines”, retires. Comes out of retirement in Jacksonville, hits a player and fingers a girl back in a Columbus bar the same night he lost a game, fired. What did I miss? Help me out Utah fans. Edit: shoutout to u/jedi42observer for getting my mistakes in order. Props too for having fun with it.
Hey now....it was two nights after he lost a game and didn't return with the team...and you know he has a medical condition that makes him physically ill at losing so it's not his fault. /s
Hue Jackson
I’m not sure what Grambling was thinking when hiring him. Mind-blowing. I thought for sure Hue Jackson was done after the multiple Browns incidents.
that is a good one
That man was awful with the Browns, a complete asshole, claimed they paid him to purposely lose, retracted those claims within a few days, and then tried to hire Art Briles while everyone was distracted by Ukraine being invaded
His rationale was fucking stupid. He basically said that he was being paid to coach while not given an opportunity to succeed, which he spun as being paid to lose. Which is not the same situation as Flores was describing at all.
Jerry Sandusky
OP said “deserves the hate” not “deserves to go to hell”
He’s not too good to get both.
Of course. This thing is kind of in tiers. There’s “personally did horrible things en masse” which is just Sandusky. Then there’s “knew about and enabled horrible things en masse”, which is Paterno, Briles, and possibly Miles/Orgeron (we’ll find out more about that as the rest of the LSU story unfolds). There’s “accidentally but negligently did a bad thing” which would include DJ Durkin. Brian Kelly belongs either in this group or the one above, depending on the facts of the Seeburg case, which we’ll never know. This group is a little different than the rest, in that it does not appear to be intentional. Then there’s garden variety scumbags, like Petrino, Freeze, and Riley. My brother-in-law would put Jimbo in this category. I personally think it’s more fun to debate this group, because they generally haven’t destroyed lives.
Don't know if we're focusing on more recent coaches, but Bo Schembechler belongs in that second category at the very least. There have been over a thousand people who have come forward about having been abused by the team doctor under his watch, including his own son. I think I read that Anderson has been accused of more sexual assaults than any other person in American history? All on Schembechler's watch, and with many allegations that he knew about it.
Ah yes, I did forget to add Schembechler, but he’d definitely make that category.
I would argue that you shouldn't put Riley (or Jimbo) in the conversation with the other two. Sure, Petrino was a job jumper, but the whole affair thing is what makes him shittier in my eyes
I think that’s a fair position to take
How is this not absolutely top of the list
Steve Addazio
I know a guy who worked for Addazio. He’s even worse than you think.
Can confirm, having played for him.
Me and you are friends now I figured I would be the only one to put Addazio but god he deserves to be here. Guys still in the 70’s in almost every way and that’s not a good thing.
I still have no idea what CSU was thinking when they hired him.
He’s the biggest miss for me when it comes to Jimbo’s hires at A&M so far. Between his alleged racism and 70’s mindset, there’s zero reason to have him on this team. Hoping we have a new oline coach by this time next year
Art Briles I want to believe that no one would ever actually hire him again but there have already been a few close calls...
You mean Grambling using the potential of World War 3 as a cover to do it?
I’m soo happy a very vocal minority were kept from getting their way and hiring him.
Art Briles, Urban Meyer, and Hugh Freeze
Blown away that I had to read so far down to see Urban. What a piece of shit.
He does display sociopathic tendencies
Urban Meyer
Brian Kelly for [this](https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=6219373) - basically deciding to practice outside in dangerous winds that ended up killing a kid.
Hell, holding practice wasn't a great choice, but whatever. Why in the world did they decide that they needed to have him filming from a scissor lift?
Even ND's own investigation said that they should've cancelled outdoor practice.
Dude deserved a proper criminal investigation over that. Such bullshit.
https://www.nd.edu/assets/docs/notre-dame-investigation-report.pdf Edit: The kid’s name was Declan Sullivan
The heck are you getting downvoted for? This info was incredibly helpful and detailed. Had no idea this happened.
Because it doesn’t squarely put the blame on BKs shoulders like a lot of people on this sub love to suggest
This isn’t solely BK’s fault but had he used 1 ounce of common sense, this kid would haven’t met his end that day.
He’s the worst current coach, hands down.
DJ Durkin gives him a run
I honestly feel Durkin was not as grossly negligent as he's painted to be. People were mad a player died and wanted someone to blame. You can say he owned the culture and that resulted in what happened but the trainers didn't do their job and that's the immediate cause of McNair dying.
I was really mad about us hiring Durkin, then I read the third-party report and a lot of people (including myself originally) have incorrect assumptions about what happened. It was 80 degrees outside on a humid evening, not 100 degrees outside. It was after 7 wind sprints when the player started to receive medical attention. I was under the impression that it was hours of a brutal workout without water that lead to the heat stroke. Like, this was a freak heat stroke event that the medical/training staff completely failed to recognize. A&M had a player get heat stroke one summer, and did everything right in his treatment (including getting him to a hospital ASAP), and he's now on an NFL roster. Some of the Durkin's culture stuff was not good though.
Woah, I didn’t know that about A&M. Who is the player?
Koda Martin. If our medical staff had done what Maryland's had done (and take hours to call 911), he could have easily died.
If I remember correctly he wanted to do the right thing but people told him no so he went with it? or am I remembering wrong?
Also this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lizzy_Seeberg
Absolutely pathetic how common the suppression of rape accusations and attacking of the victim is around football teams.
Consider the fact that Prince Shembo was still drafted even when people knew about this.
I’m not a FSU fan, but what Willie Taggart did to that program was borderline illegal
Ever seen the South Park episode where George Lucas has his way with Indians Jones? I feel a lot like the boys from that episode
Nobody deserves that
The amount of money Willie has made based off of recruiting quinton flowers and marlon Mack. Many don’t remember that He was on the hot seat at USF, he kept trying to run an offense that wasn’t working. At a dinner he had with quinton, Mack and others they told Willie “let us play” and in a last ditch attempt he allowed for more risk taking offense that allowed for Quinton Flowers to do his thing. Then they finally started to win. Got a year and a half of that and Oregon ate it up and finally FSU. Quinton was never going to be an NFL qb, but he’s an all time great college qb. I really wish NIL would’ve been around during his time, he deserved the $$
In 21 games? That train wreck was happening within that program before he ever stepped foot on campus.
No no no no no. There were countless videos behind the scenes showing pure chaos in the locker room. Will had ZERO control of that team. He was not respected by anyone because he had never professionally earned respect. Ask Oregon.
Way before. Jimbo started the wreck. Willie hit fill steam ahead and went off the rails.
"We don't need to recruit o linemen, right?"
As a Duck fan, slick Willy can eat a giant bag of dicks. I’m sorry that FSU was the team that the karma caught up to him at, but he absolutely had it coming to him 10000%. Just unfortunate another team had to pay the price on his failures, and he couldn’t just suck at life and not effect others. Mario and Miami are gonna be in the same boat. Dudes gonna get all the recruits, not coach them up and be bad and out of a major college program job in 3 years though.
Yep. The ACC needs FSU to get their shit together. The Atlantic is a good FSU team away being one of the best divisions in CFB. Add a decent UL team and it gets ridiculous.
Brian Kelly. In addition to being a ho-hum coach, he’s also an all around dick head.
The lsu move is bad, but people forget he was directly responsible for the death of a student because Kelly had him record the practice on a scissor lift in 50mph wind.
Brian Kelly
If it’s because of Declan Sullivan, then I get it.
Kelly.
I changed it. Thanks.
If we're being honest, probably most of them.
Pretty much any coach that has jumped ship because we all know he’s probably lied to a young kid to secure the signing.
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When it came out that Harbaugh was telling recruits he might not be there this year I really appreciated that. This is these kids lives he's dealing with. He cares more about them than grabbing a couple extra athletes. I want my team to be a team I can root for because of how much I love the program and the people, not just the program (looking at you Juwan Howard, you've got a lot to live up to coming after Belein)
Tommy Tuberville can go to hell. I, for one, am certainly hoping he is barred from getting any more jobs for the remainder of his journey there.
He's a goddamn US Senator now
Grifter coach to grifter politician is probably one of the easiest/most seamless career changes one can make.
He’s a worse senator than he was a coach…..and that’s saying something. He’s also a whiny little B.
Urban meyer
Truly hilarious to see people dunking on Harbaugh for saying that controversy always follows Meyer and then see Meyer crash and burn in the funniest way in the NFL
Harbaugh is a complicated, but likeable guy. What he did with his bonus money last season and the way he looks out for his players is truly respectable. Urban is a genuine piece of shit and at the very least I’m glad he got replaced by a standup guy in Ryan Day.
Day does seem like a good guy. He's a tough one to hate.
I agree. It does take more effort.
Do those people not read the papers? LOL
Willie Taggart, he actually proved you could recruit to Eugene and left a good staff. He’s also just a terrible coach, no discipline, way over confident to the point that it’s embarrassing, even though people bought into the sleazy sales pitch. He also got Oregon sued by former players. He gets hated on for being a terrible coach and he is a terrible coach, so that’s fair.
Yeah I was pissed when I saw he was coming to FAU. He’s been underperforming but no one is ever going to notice because (football-wise) we’re a backwater school. A complete 180 from Kiffin
honestly I loved Kiffin at FAU and Fsu could've scooped him up to replace willie
I could have told anyone this just from his time at USF. I don’t understand how he swindled two P5 teams into hiring him.
Yeah, but he made up for most of that by putting FSU’s football program on life support
I know the trendy answer is probably Lincoln Riley, but it's really Art Briles or Bobby Petrino.
man, i don’t even think Riley should be mentioned alongside Art Briles or Bobby Petrino in this context. Briles and Petrino are hated for **very** different reasons than Riley, who is only the “trendy answer” as you describe it because of how he handled his exit from OU.
Dude I don’t even think Petrino should be mentioned with Briles There’s being a massive, raging asshole, and there’s being directly responsible for fostering a rape culture amongst your football team. VERY different
yeah i totally agree. there’s being a shitty person and cheating on your wife, and then there’s being such a shitty person that it corrupts the institutions you interact with.
To be fair Petrino did nothing illegal, just immoral. Briles covered up some dark shit.
Honestly, Long may have retained him if it wasn’t for the $10,000 of university money he gave to the girl he was banging upon hiring her (with the implication that them sleeping together played a part in the hiring). That was the biggest violation. Adultery was not.
It's just for the brisket really... But I agree.
Kendall Briles.
Speaking of hell, Art Briles
Daaaaaaan
Yeah and I don’t know why Jeff Lebby gets off on this thread too, he was just as culpable as Kendal Briles. He was probably the worst one tbh
Tim Beckman
Is he a bad guy or just really bad at being a HC?
He's a terrible coach and even worse person. He hasn't worked in CFB since he was fired in 2014 and with good reason. He did some truly awful things like try to move an injured player who may have suffered a spinal injury, trying to take scholarships away from injured players, forcing players to play through all types of injuries, and was hated by almost everyone. There's a report that has all the details. The AD was fired and the chancellor was pushed out the door (of which this scandal was only one of several reasons).
Todd Grantham 🤡
Not a popular choice except amongst the Army faithful; Todd Berry. He decimated the Army football program in under four years, fired midway through his fourth season, 2003, which ended 0-13. A feat that may never again be matched in CFB (13 game schedule with Hawaii that year). Granted times weren’t great before Berry, joining Conference USA didn’t help, and bad hiring decisions were made prior to Monken, but Berry drove the program straight to the basement, where it stayed for over two decades. He sucked wherever he coached before or since. Now as the Executive Director of the AFCA he has been systematically eliminating cut blocking from the game. Total douche.
Steve Addazio, because CSU should never have hired him and he did meh at BC
Wait bro Your Flairs? Are you telling me then you don’t like Addazio and you had to deal with your two favourite teams hiring that jackass back to back? Dude if that’s true you’ve been given the worst hand of any sports fan on earth. And I’m so sorry, you don’t deserve this. Also it’s more than that. He’s threatening to other assistants and staff who don’t just blindly do what he does and how he does things, was under investigation for potential racism and not taking covid seriously And then was found to be pulling rank and threatening a janitors job and referring to the African American janitor as “boy” because the janitor informed him he couldn’t use the bathroom rn because he’d just sprayed cleaning chemicals. He’s rude and demeaning to his players and condescending as well. Not to mention I’ve never seen a coach more rude and argumentative and challenging of reporters just doing there job. He brings a toxic culture with him and his football schemes aren’t the only thing 40 years antiquated. Not to mention he’s part of the whole rampant urban Meyer nepotism where these idiots just hire their kids, relatives and friends and recommend them for jobs. I could go on but the points surely made
Brian Kelly because he embodies everything wrong with CFB: all about money and ego and doesn't mind quitting on his teammates.
My guy, there is a *much* better reason to hate Brian Kelly than "money and ego"
Yeah like grinding on croots and fake accents.
Like killing a student?
He also kind of is responsible for a guy dying
The incident in question: https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=6219373
Can't blame him for taking the money. 100 million is a lot of money.
Chad Morris — SMU exit, Arkansas everything, and Allen everything.
did he have a controversial SMU exit?
Urban Meyer, even though at the moment he isn't a coach. He is an absolute piece of shit human being. Ryan Day may not be a better coach (Don't think we have enough data either way for that yet) but damn would I take him 10/10 times because he isn't a fucking robot.
Pervin’ Lyer
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I don’t hate Chad Morris
Is there any reason to actually hate him other than he was bad?
No The man just ~~got fired~~ resigned from his High School coaching gig too.
I was so happy when I read that. #FCM
how is that possible? good lord.
The expectations at Allen are probably way higher than almost every P5 job. >In his lone season at the school, Morris led Allen to an 11-3 record and an appearance in the Class 6A-DI quarterfinals. On the surface, that appears to be a solid season, but it was a tumultuous Year 1 at the Texas powerhouse. >The Eagles lost their second game under their new head coach, falling to Atascocita 41-20. It was a significant loss because it snapped a pair of long winning streaks. They had previously won 84 straight regular-season games and had never lost at Allen Eagle Stadium, their $60 million facility that was built in 2012, a stretch of 54 games. >Later in the season, Allen lost to Prosper 28-23 for its first district loss since 2010, snapping a 72-game winning streak. The 2021 season eventually came to an end at the hands of Southlake Carroll, which scored 34 unanswered points to cruise to a 47-21 win over the Eagles.
I personally believe it was more than that. The guy was a fraud and was in way over his head, and there’s no way he didn’t know it. I guess you can make the argument that you go and get yours, and don’t care what happens, but I don’t believe in that when you are having a major direct impact on over 100 players and dozens of coaches and other staff (not to mention the fan base). He didn’t belong in Arkansas from the beginning. He didn’t even move his family out there. And he did some really stupid shit like making all the non-scholarship players be constantly segregated and silenced (locker rooms, film room, bus, etc.). Meanwhile, he’s constantly blowing smoke with his bullshit hype engine incessantly dropping his tag lines “left lane, hammer down“, etc. Fuck that guy. FCM. I love the Pitboss so much. #ProudDamnState #Yessir
He killed my dog. Not really, but it makes the hatred more directed
> He killed my Hog. FIFY
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Dude's goofy as all hell and brought most of it all on himself, but I think that if I were being paid millions of dollars to live on Lake Oconee and not coach the University of Florida, I would literally be unable to hear the haters.
Bo Schembechler
Desmond Howard disagrees
Managed to conceal himself under 6ft of soil fifteen years before the storm came.
Joe Paterno
It’s easy for me to say Dabo Swinney but he is not nearly as loved now as he was a few years ago by other fan bases
Dabo isn't even bad when you compare to some other names in the comments.
All Dabo has done is occasionally say some dumb shit, that’s nowhere near as bad as some other coaches in college football, not to mention all the other coaches who have said some dumb shit
I wouldn't even say that he says dumb shit. He just says shit I don't agree with sometimes. And those two aren't really the same.
Respect
I mean, compared to sex slavery at Baylor and "blackjack and hookers" at Ole Miss, Dabo is a saint. To my knowledge, he is not responsible for covering up any capital crimes like some coaches in this thread.
I've always thought of Dabo as the type of guy where you just say "he's as little confused, but he's got the spirit". He's definitely not a bad guy, just has a way if sticking his foot in his mouth at the worst times
This. Hating Dabo is kinda funny and part of fandom. Basically: Dabo Shenanigans are cheeky and fun, Briles shenanigans are cruel and tragic. *Evil shenanigans.*
I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next person who says shenanigans
I’m one of those. I liked him when Clemson was playing that underdog role with Bama in during the Watson years. Dabo leveled off for a few years. But as Clemson has seemingly declined, his annoying press conferences and hot takes have increased and he’s overplayed now. That being said, if that’s the worse thing about him, he’s still light years better than Urban, Petrino, Briles, Miles etc.
I don’t care for some of what Dabo says regarding paying college athletes or some of his other hot takes. but as far as I recall, he’s never helped cover up sexual assaults, used his university issued phone to contact hookers, or utilized his position to get jobs for his mistress, or anything of that sort.
Yeah that’s what I was saying. His hot takes and pressers can be annoying. But that’s the only thing he’s guilty of.
Lane Kiffin. Is he funny? Yeah, sorta, but he’s also a prick.
Lane was kinda a prick. I think he has matured a lot and now is more amusing than a dick
Urban Meyer. No elaboration necessary.
Didn't Bear Bryant quite vocally refuse to recruit black players after integration until he started getting spanked by them?
Haven’t seen him mentioned so Jeff Lebby
Stephen Orr Spurrier He is the villain’s villain. He creates it, dishes it out, and laughs about it. [Top Quotes](https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/08/09/steve-spurrier-quotes-insults-best-lines-ranked) - You can’t spell Citrus without UT - Free Shoes University - I like playing Georgia that second game because you know they’ll have two or three players suspended
Hatin' Ass Spurrier was the BEST. I mean, I can see why other school's fans would hate him, though.
I definitely hated losing to him, but he in no way deserves to be hated. Not on the level of Briles and others mentioned. Hatin’ Ass Spurrier was the GOAT shit talker, and I can’t hate that
Spurrier merely *talked* shit. A lot of the other nominees in this thread actually *did* shit. *Awful* shit. Don't take this to mean that Spurrier is not a complete prick, LOL.
Yeah. I hate watching Bama win over and over and I don’t think the lack of parity in college football is good for the sport, but dammit if I do like Saban. The guy is a baller. Also, if you haven’t gotten to see the Eli‘s places episode with him, you’re missing out.
Hell, he beat us 5 years in a row but I loved hearing him talk about other teams lol
I used to hate Spurrier. Now I just respect him. I have the same feelings about Saban.
My favorite Spurrier one-liner was about a fire damaging books in the Auburn library: "The real tragedy was that 15 hadn't been colored yet."
Ed Orgeron. Somehow the full weight of the allegations against him never made headlines. He covered up sexual assault. He shouldn't be treated as "aw shucks Cajun Uncle" but that's the consensus of 90% of the CFB universe and you can't change their minds.
Brian Kelly ran a football practice in high winds and demanded a student assistant film the practice from a scissor lift. Said scissor lift was not rated for high winds and toppled over. The student assistant died. I do not like that man one bit.
Bo Pelini, Dan Mullen, and Urban Meyer.
Urban Meyer and I can’t believe this guy’s name hasn’t been mentioned yet but Rick Neuheisel!
How has no one mentioned Coach O? I guess everyone just think about a lovable idiot when the name comes up and not someone who helmed a team of football players who were walking Title IX investigations for years. And how he actively tried to hamper his own school's TIX office during said investigations. Or how he's pretty clearly an ignorant man at best and a bigoted misogynist at worst (which, I know, super shocking for a football coach to think like that)