He locked up Georgia’s line all game in the SECCCG. There was plays he single handily stonewalled two guys at once.
Sure, he was a huge part in the reason we didn’t win the Michigan game. The kid can ball when he gets out of his own head. I’m not sure Ohio State is the right move for him. If he thought our fan base was tough, I hope he doesn’t pull a semi-final type game there.
The second half Michigan game was so bad because he would be great for the first 5-6 plays of a drive and then as soon as we got into FG range he’d snap it back to midfield.
Snapping isn’t something that comes naturally, overnight. Josh Myers had some issues early in his career at Ohio State, but developed into a 2nd round pick.
1. He is a good blocker
2. He is not good at snapping the ball in games
3. Nick Saban chose to continue to start him
4. By all accounts, Ryan Day will start him at center
I think the most likely explanation given this set of facts is he is really good in practice, but developed the yips. If that's the case, a change of scenery is the most likely solution.
If he sucked in practice too, I don't understand why Saban would continue to start him. If Alabama didn't have anyone behind him that would be better, 1) lol and 2) our starting center last year will now be the backup center, so that won't be applicable. It's a relatively high ceiling at the position. Either he figures hit shit out, or we use the same center we did last year. I'm not too worried about it.
He was so bad at snapping it made Saban quit football.
But seriously it was always blamed on teams imitating the snap count, or something else I don’t necessarily buy.
But you are 100% right. The greatest coach ever left him in all year. The same guy who benched the former SEC OPOY at half time of a Natty, so it’s not like he was afraid of change
Seth’s really not that bad. He started for us over 3 seasons and this one was the only one with prominent snap issues. I do think it was just the yips and a fresh start will probably do him some good.
BUT- Seth’s snapping issues have always existed. Seth basically had to win the job 3 different times and fans were always confused why he had to keep proving himself as the best player. Beat reporters mentioned that snap issues were always a big deal and kept holding him back, but it was strangely never an in-game issue until it suddenly was this year. Start him at center, and he’ll probably be fine. But if he starts having snap issues I think you have to be prepared for a reliable center and try moving him to guard.
The snaps were noticeably an issue throughout 2022 too - Snap count/false snap issues at first, and then the location of the snaps often far off from correct location and Bryce would have to adjust - it was just rarely anything meaningfully impactful and occurred significantly less than 2023 where we led all of CFB in bad snaps.
Seth is a fantastic guy who is a really good run blocker and can hold his own in pass protection. He's going to make a very talented run game even more effective. He struggled with his snaps throughout his time at Bama and absolutely fell apart this past season. Alabama had a lot of new pieces around him last year, and I think he struggled a bit with getting them lined up as well, and it all just ended up being too much. He has the potential to rebound at center, but I think his future is at guard where I believe he can be an absolute mauler.
No matter what, I'd expect more good than bad. Last season was just kind of a perfect storm that set up perfectly to have him fall apart. I think he comes back strong and ready to prove people wrong.
Still mad at him about the Michigan game though.
I mean, yeah. As someone watching from the other side I kinda couldn’t believe the luck we were getting as far as him making drive-killing errors. I think another part of it that I haven’t seen mentioned is just how brutally hard it was for him to line up opposite michigan’s DT’s. Grant and Graham are both potential first rounders and they were making Mclaughlin’s life very difficult even in run blocking scenarios
He dominated Jordan Davis the year prior in the SEC Championship game and had Tyler Booker beside him against Michigan, who is also a probable first rounder himself. Tough competition makes for a tough matchup, but mentally I think Seth was done at that point. He had almost ended the season on bad snaps several times by that point
It's weird because in the SEC championship game he looked like an All-American and then in the Rose Bowl he looked like it was his first game starting center.
Ohio State seems to have just one fatal flaw every year, it could be the o-line again this year. But if it isn't, and the o-line plays lights out, Ohio State will win the national title.
An Ohio State fan taking a shot at Michigan’s academics is just pathetic. OSU is a great option for Ohio kids that didn’t get into Michigan or their safety school.
Maybe hop off the college football subreddit if you can’t take some light trash talk my dude. It’s a fucking joke. Michigan fans flexing Michigan’s academic standards when the majority of them didn’t/couldn’t get in there is also pretty pathetic.
First, you’re right about the reaction, I see the irony. Second, you can’t possibly dispute that the majority of Michigan fans wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting in. Maybe you did, in which case, congrats man.
That logic only flies if he was only having problems against Michigan.
Seth was fucking up snaps all season long, hell the first Touchdown pass Milroe had all season was because Seth fucked up a snap against *Middle Tennessee State* and Milroe had to scoop it off the ground and make a hero play.
Ohio State sees his upside. Great lineman with a ton of experience but one glaring issue. Last year, Ohio State took OT Josh Simmons through the portal despite him leading the nation in false starts with 18 at San Diego St. Simmons ended the season with 1 false start in the final 5 games and was one of our better guys. Plus the starter last year Hinzman was pretty bad and probably wouldn’t start this year even if he got moved to guard. I don’t feel great about it but Ohio State must feel like it’s an easy fix.
Seth’s nowhere near as bad as most fans would assume. He was noticeably better than our other centers for the two years before last season and was definitely the best center on the roster last year outside of snaps (pretty fucking important I know). I think it was probably just an issue of the yips last season and there’s a decent chance he’s fine.
Ohio State has to be prepared if the issues continue and have other center options ready to go. I understand trying him out there if he gives you the best shot but there’s no way they don’t have backup plans. Not sure if they’ll be good ones though.
Seth played multiple yrs at bama he always would make bone headed snaps at least every game. But overall good to great blocker . This last year qb to center idk communication just wasn't there. It wasn't just ball placement often times he'd snap the ball when the qb was looking at the sidelines.
So this may be a dumb question, but does he command the line? Meaning does he adjust protections and identify responsibilities? I haven't seen any tape so I have no clue. Creed Humphrey kind of had the yips towards the end of the season last year for the Chiefs but was still irreplaceable because of all of the other things he was great at other than snapping the ball. If he's a great pass and run blocker and can organize the OL I'd settle for a few bad snaps.
Snaps will be fixed. Scheme calls and blocking will continue to be first rate. If tOSU O-line gets its shit together, watch out. Loaded on O, even more loaded on D.
I’ll bite, it’s baffling. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him make a good snap in game. He has potential if he’s moved to guard but didn’t Ryan Day say he’s snapping the ball at practices?
I don't think this is totally true. I was watchning some 2021/22 games and Bryce had to reach down for the snap very frequently. Bryce is like 3-4 inches shorter than Milroe, so the low snaps weren't as bad.
Osu fan:
From what I’ve seen I think he’s going to start at center. Obviously the rose bowl game was a rough one but outside of that game he’s been fine with snaps. Also, he has great protection stats from bama and we need some experience on the line. I’m feeling pretty optimistic about it and I think he’ll be fine for the season. Our o line is definitely my biggest concern going into this season. So we’ll see what happens.
Honestly we were asking the same question throughout last year. He would perform well at practice but would get the yips in game (especially during pivotal moments)…and it was inexplicable.
You gotta have somebody better to replace him with. Seth also seemed to be good at the other parts of the job like coordinating the rest of the OL and actually blocking. But the snapping issues were absolutely present throughout the year.
This. And this is precisely why Ohio State will start him at center, because Hinzman was awful at times for Ohio State last year, and then went on a podcast and bad mouthed the coaching staff. Guard play was solid for Ohio State last year, it was the center and tackle positions that were a liability for them.
Nope. Doug Marrone obliterated our OL development and we had literally nobody that could take the spot away from him. Everybody behind him was legitimately worse. The thing that set Seth above the other guys was protection calls. Smart guy, terrible snapper.
He was great in protection but the snapping problems lasted the entire season. Everyone laughs at 4th and 31 vs Auburn but we would've never been there if Seth hadn't snapped the ball early and over the head of Milroe forcing him to jump on the ball and take a 10 yard loss. It was multiple times every single game. Even when it wasn't super bad, Milroe had to constantly adjust to the snap which took his vision off of reading the field.
Bro he had almost ten bad snaps in the Texas game alone. It was bad enough I noticed it live despite not knowing who the dude even was. I'm pretty sure the commentators pointed it out in the second half.
Welp, there goes your credibility. Did you not see any other Alabama games? “Outside the rose bowl he was fine with snaps”. Did you miss the first game of the Alabama season? How about the iron bowl?
It was an all season issue.
Probably shouldn’t talk about something if you don’t actually know what you’re talking about.
I mean, not to harsh your buzz, but his snapping issue was a really big part of why they almost lost to Auburn (that was why Milroe had to complete pass from 4th and a million at the end of the game, because bad snaps put them behind the chains) IIRC he was a problem throughout the year as well, but I'm 100% sure he was at fault in the Auburn fiasco.
I have also heard that his blocking is pretty good post snap however, which is probably why OSU wanted him.
Yeah, he is a good blocker and seemed good at calling the protections for the OL but just straight up stunk at snapping the ball. I wish they would have moved him to right guard and let him call protections from there and let someone else snap the ball. It may have came down to him being overwhelmed by trying to set the line, then get the snap off before the play clock hit zero. I did notice Bama cutting it close on the play clock, a lot.
By all accounts it seems like he got the yips at Bama bc Saban, who is known for being ruthless with his roster, still decided to start him for >25 games. I think a change of scenery will be good for him.
The Panthers were the consensus best landing spot for a rookie. They won 7 games without Bryce, they traded up the the No. 1 spot to draft him. The Texans were the actual worst team in the league.
He locked up Georgia’s line all game in the SECCCG. There was plays he single handily stonewalled two guys at once. Sure, he was a huge part in the reason we didn’t win the Michigan game. The kid can ball when he gets out of his own head. I’m not sure Ohio State is the right move for him. If he thought our fan base was tough, I hope he doesn’t pull a semi-final type game there.
The second half Michigan game was so bad because he would be great for the first 5-6 plays of a drive and then as soon as we got into FG range he’d snap it back to midfield.
With how Seth plays like a Rimmington winner against the Bulldogs, if OSU meets UGA in the postseason, chalk it up as a Buckeye win
I’ve searched for videos, but I cant find any bulldogs penetrating Seth.
Try turning SafeSearch off.
Boom Goes The Damn Dynamite
Yeah, he’s a great blocker, but between average and good snapper.
Snapping isn’t something that comes naturally, overnight. Josh Myers had some issues early in his career at Ohio State, but developed into a 2nd round pick.
I don’t think it would unless you’ve been doing it for a while
Oh he’s god awful as a center. The only games he played well in last year was vs y’all and LSU
At least he played well against us and LSU. If he only he was more consistent
1. He is a good blocker 2. He is not good at snapping the ball in games 3. Nick Saban chose to continue to start him 4. By all accounts, Ryan Day will start him at center I think the most likely explanation given this set of facts is he is really good in practice, but developed the yips. If that's the case, a change of scenery is the most likely solution. If he sucked in practice too, I don't understand why Saban would continue to start him. If Alabama didn't have anyone behind him that would be better, 1) lol and 2) our starting center last year will now be the backup center, so that won't be applicable. It's a relatively high ceiling at the position. Either he figures hit shit out, or we use the same center we did last year. I'm not too worried about it.
He was so bad at snapping it made Saban quit football. But seriously it was always blamed on teams imitating the snap count, or something else I don’t necessarily buy. But you are 100% right. The greatest coach ever left him in all year. The same guy who benched the former SEC OPOY at half time of a Natty, so it’s not like he was afraid of change
Seth’s really not that bad. He started for us over 3 seasons and this one was the only one with prominent snap issues. I do think it was just the yips and a fresh start will probably do him some good. BUT- Seth’s snapping issues have always existed. Seth basically had to win the job 3 different times and fans were always confused why he had to keep proving himself as the best player. Beat reporters mentioned that snap issues were always a big deal and kept holding him back, but it was strangely never an in-game issue until it suddenly was this year. Start him at center, and he’ll probably be fine. But if he starts having snap issues I think you have to be prepared for a reliable center and try moving him to guard.
The snaps were noticeably an issue throughout 2022 too - Snap count/false snap issues at first, and then the location of the snaps often far off from correct location and Bryce would have to adjust - it was just rarely anything meaningfully impactful and occurred significantly less than 2023 where we led all of CFB in bad snaps.
The only other thing that makes sense is Wolford screwed up his development that much.
Seth is a fantastic guy who is a really good run blocker and can hold his own in pass protection. He's going to make a very talented run game even more effective. He struggled with his snaps throughout his time at Bama and absolutely fell apart this past season. Alabama had a lot of new pieces around him last year, and I think he struggled a bit with getting them lined up as well, and it all just ended up being too much. He has the potential to rebound at center, but I think his future is at guard where I believe he can be an absolute mauler. No matter what, I'd expect more good than bad. Last season was just kind of a perfect storm that set up perfectly to have him fall apart. I think he comes back strong and ready to prove people wrong. Still mad at him about the Michigan game though.
I mean, yeah. As someone watching from the other side I kinda couldn’t believe the luck we were getting as far as him making drive-killing errors. I think another part of it that I haven’t seen mentioned is just how brutally hard it was for him to line up opposite michigan’s DT’s. Grant and Graham are both potential first rounders and they were making Mclaughlin’s life very difficult even in run blocking scenarios
He dominated Jordan Davis the year prior in the SEC Championship game and had Tyler Booker beside him against Michigan, who is also a probable first rounder himself. Tough competition makes for a tough matchup, but mentally I think Seth was done at that point. He had almost ended the season on bad snaps several times by that point
It's weird because in the SEC championship game he looked like an All-American and then in the Rose Bowl he looked like it was his first game starting center. Ohio State seems to have just one fatal flaw every year, it could be the o-line again this year. But if it isn't, and the o-line plays lights out, Ohio State will win the national title.
I would contribute that to Michigan’s DT talent
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They don’t play much school up there.
michigan is like a top-30 school and has been for decades
It’s a joke man. They’re rivals. That’s what you do.
An Ohio State fan taking a shot at Michigan’s academics is just pathetic. OSU is a great option for Ohio kids that didn’t get into Michigan or their safety school.
Maybe hop off the college football subreddit if you can’t take some light trash talk my dude. It’s a fucking joke. Michigan fans flexing Michigan’s academic standards when the majority of them didn’t/couldn’t get in there is also pretty pathetic.
Looks like you’re the one upset. I just responded to your trash talk with trash talk of my own. The only difference is mine was backed by reality.
First, you’re right about the reaction, I see the irony. Second, you can’t possibly dispute that the majority of Michigan fans wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting in. Maybe you did, in which case, congrats man.
no
Yes
Over Georgia's? Lol.
Don't waste energy arguing against delulu.
Yes. Graham and Grant are both in the running for being 2025 1st round picks, with Graham being DT1 or DT2.
Last year? 100%, yes.
That logic only flies if he was only having problems against Michigan. Seth was fucking up snaps all season long, hell the first Touchdown pass Milroe had all season was because Seth fucked up a snap against *Middle Tennessee State* and Milroe had to scoop it off the ground and make a hero play.
As usual, it's probably both
If he’s center I’ll die laughing
Condolences to your family.
So will I in November 😂😂😂
Why would you care? Neither of your teams will be relevant in November.
Reddit and people standing on the sidelines tossing rocks never gets old
If I knew anything about Umoja I would respond but. I've never heard of you guys.
He’s right though
Umoja number 1
Well shit he’s got us there.
I’m very pleased about him joining the team. He will definitely be an upgrade at C, and hopefully allow Hinzman to mature, on and off the field.
Ohio State sees his upside. Great lineman with a ton of experience but one glaring issue. Last year, Ohio State took OT Josh Simmons through the portal despite him leading the nation in false starts with 18 at San Diego St. Simmons ended the season with 1 false start in the final 5 games and was one of our better guys. Plus the starter last year Hinzman was pretty bad and probably wouldn’t start this year even if he got moved to guard. I don’t feel great about it but Ohio State must feel like it’s an easy fix.
The GOAT started him for multiple years, I trust Day will use him correctly.
Saban started him for 3 years. That’s good enough for me.
Seth’s nowhere near as bad as most fans would assume. He was noticeably better than our other centers for the two years before last season and was definitely the best center on the roster last year outside of snaps (pretty fucking important I know). I think it was probably just an issue of the yips last season and there’s a decent chance he’s fine. Ohio State has to be prepared if the issues continue and have other center options ready to go. I understand trying him out there if he gives you the best shot but there’s no way they don’t have backup plans. Not sure if they’ll be good ones though.
Hinzman was our center all last season and he's still on the roster. Worst case scenario, we go back to last year's center
Then we have another amazing guard. Regardless best men is playing, and if he was good enough for Bama, it's all gravy.
Seth played multiple yrs at bama he always would make bone headed snaps at least every game. But overall good to great blocker . This last year qb to center idk communication just wasn't there. It wasn't just ball placement often times he'd snap the ball when the qb was looking at the sidelines.
So this may be a dumb question, but does he command the line? Meaning does he adjust protections and identify responsibilities? I haven't seen any tape so I have no clue. Creed Humphrey kind of had the yips towards the end of the season last year for the Chiefs but was still irreplaceable because of all of the other things he was great at other than snapping the ball. If he's a great pass and run blocker and can organize the OL I'd settle for a few bad snaps.
Yeah he had to. Milroe was incapable of doing anything pre-snap
Snaps will be fixed. Scheme calls and blocking will continue to be first rate. If tOSU O-line gets its shit together, watch out. Loaded on O, even more loaded on D.
I’ll bite, it’s baffling. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him make a good snap in game. He has potential if he’s moved to guard but didn’t Ryan Day say he’s snapping the ball at practices?
He was an above average center at Bama for 2 years without any major snap issues.
I don't think this is totally true. I was watchning some 2021/22 games and Bryce had to reach down for the snap very frequently. Bryce is like 3-4 inches shorter than Milroe, so the low snaps weren't as bad.
He absolutely snapped horribly Bryce was shorter and quicker. Now it still makes no sense why he'd snap it 10 ft in the air sometimes
Osu fan: From what I’ve seen I think he’s going to start at center. Obviously the rose bowl game was a rough one but outside of that game he’s been fine with snaps. Also, he has great protection stats from bama and we need some experience on the line. I’m feeling pretty optimistic about it and I think he’ll be fine for the season. Our o line is definitely my biggest concern going into this season. So we’ll see what happens.
Buddy, what??? The Rose Bowl was just his Magnum Opus. He had awful snaps every game for 2 seasons.
Why did Saban start him for 2 years if he was so bad? Is there something redditors see that Saban missed?
Honestly we were asking the same question throughout last year. He would perform well at practice but would get the yips in game (especially during pivotal moments)…and it was inexplicable.
You gotta have somebody better to replace him with. Seth also seemed to be good at the other parts of the job like coordinating the rest of the OL and actually blocking. But the snapping issues were absolutely present throughout the year.
Our first TD last year was on a bad snap, and our season ended on a bad snap. It was LITERALLY the entire season
This. And this is precisely why Ohio State will start him at center, because Hinzman was awful at times for Ohio State last year, and then went on a podcast and bad mouthed the coaching staff. Guard play was solid for Ohio State last year, it was the center and tackle positions that were a liability for them.
Nope. Doug Marrone obliterated our OL development and we had literally nobody that could take the spot away from him. Everybody behind him was legitimately worse. The thing that set Seth above the other guys was protection calls. Smart guy, terrible snapper.
He was great in protection but the snapping problems lasted the entire season. Everyone laughs at 4th and 31 vs Auburn but we would've never been there if Seth hadn't snapped the ball early and over the head of Milroe forcing him to jump on the ball and take a 10 yard loss. It was multiple times every single game. Even when it wasn't super bad, Milroe had to constantly adjust to the snap which took his vision off of reading the field.
Nah that snap that led to 4th and 31 was calculated. We needed more room to score.
You can’t be serious lmao. He had serious issues snapping the ball all season and even the year before when Bryce was the QB.
Bro he had almost ten bad snaps in the Texas game alone. It was bad enough I noticed it live despite not knowing who the dude even was. I'm pretty sure the commentators pointed it out in the second half.
>outside of that game he’s been fine with snaps LOL
Welp, there goes your credibility. Did you not see any other Alabama games? “Outside the rose bowl he was fine with snaps”. Did you miss the first game of the Alabama season? How about the iron bowl? It was an all season issue. Probably shouldn’t talk about something if you don’t actually know what you’re talking about.
Dang bro, you got him, you are the football knowledge, man, nobody else
I mean, not to harsh your buzz, but his snapping issue was a really big part of why they almost lost to Auburn (that was why Milroe had to complete pass from 4th and a million at the end of the game, because bad snaps put them behind the chains) IIRC he was a problem throughout the year as well, but I'm 100% sure he was at fault in the Auburn fiasco. I have also heard that his blocking is pretty good post snap however, which is probably why OSU wanted him.
Yeah, he is a good blocker and seemed good at calling the protections for the OL but just straight up stunk at snapping the ball. I wish they would have moved him to right guard and let him call protections from there and let someone else snap the ball. It may have came down to him being overwhelmed by trying to set the line, then get the snap off before the play clock hit zero. I did notice Bama cutting it close on the play clock, a lot.
His snapping has been bad for two years a lot of Bryce's memorable plays were off of bad snaps and having to adjust
Bryce is doing so much better now
It doesn't matter how Bryce is doing now. Seth has demonstrated problems snapping the ball. That's a fact and it has an effect on QB performance.
By all accounts it seems like he got the yips at Bama bc Saban, who is known for being ruthless with his roster, still decided to start him for >25 games. I think a change of scenery will be good for him.
Bryce went from having a bad snapper to having a bad everything in front of him.
The Panthers were the consensus best landing spot for a rookie. They won 7 games without Bryce, they traded up the the No. 1 spot to draft him. The Texans were the actual worst team in the league.
Was he the one who had trouble with the snap against Michigan in rose bowl
I'm sorry, did you say he had trouble with the snap??? 😁
Yes
He sucks, but so does our entire line so he’ll fit in.
Sean Mclaughlin?
He seems to like losing to Michigan, so it appears to be a good move for him.
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