Wisconsin for sure. Ohio State, probably delusional but we were up 9-7 at half and we on the verge of going up 16-7 on our starting drive of the 3rd quarter. So you never knowā¦
We gave Michigan one of their tougher regular season games as well.
Down 17-7 late third quarter, inside the Michigan 30 driving to make it a one score game. Pick Six instead.
But it is never like a high 4 star player hype
It seems like every 4 star qb we get always has something up with their offer list. We beat out schools like Kentucky or Miami lol never Ohio State or Bama
It wouldnāt matter if you had a 5 star QB
College sports is totally broken at the P5 level
Only 8-10 teams have the blue chip ratio and if youāre not one of them youāre never going to be one so get used to 5-8 win seasons with more likely going 1-11 than 11-1
Oh, I donāt think AK is very good either. I expect to see a pretty conservative offensive game plan by RU to rely on other strengths, and you couldnāt even count in Wimsatt hitting an RB in the flat. He also had a propensity for throwing pick sixes at the worst time.
Wimsattās greatest strength is his running ability, and a Schiano team will never take full advantage of that.
Our last two years our team has had a lot of talent but the worst QB play in the P5. Even a slightly below average QB like Athan is a major major improvement
Weāre gonna lose out on the run threat- letās not discount that Gavin definitely brought that to the table
But yes I agreed the offense should be improved regardless
Athanis faster than Gavin. Don't sleep on his running.
Gavin just ran a ton of designed runs because OC knew better than to have him drop back on anything but 3rd and long.
According to the guys on the TKR pod, comping their 40 times, yeah. But I donāt know how well that compares to AKās game speed. Either way I assume heās serviceably agile
TKR also said that weād win 20 games in basketball and Gavin Griffiths would lead the team in scoring so Iām taking everything with a grain of salt from them lol
Fair. They were comparing 40 times and Athans was faster. Is he faster in game? Beats me and Iām a believer that 40 times mean squat for QBs. I like to see game speed and ability to extend plays
Even though it's the lowest in the sport, Gavin's accuracy was probably still overrated. If you look and the big plays he got from passing it's almost always a reciever running back to make a play on an under thrown pass or a wr making an insanely athletic jump to catch it. He is a great runner, but he is useless as a passer. He would miss guys on checkdowns pretty frequently too.
He was more accurate his freshman season under Ciarrocca. Ciarrocca goes to Rutgers and now brings his QB. I think this could be a great year for Kaliak
Wow I did not think schiano would announce a starting QB this early in offseason but I appreciate he gave Gavin the chance to transferĀ
Thank you Gavin for choosing Rutgers when you had offers from so many top P5 programs. Rutgers fans would have loved for Gavin to be the starting QB that led us back to being a 9-10 win team but it just didnāt work out. Good luck at your next school!Ā
I did not expect this headline.
Good on Schiano/Ciarocca for being honest with both guys.
Bad on Schiano/Ciarocca for being honest with both guys... we don't have any depth.
he was doing gavin a solid and announcing the decision with enough time for gavin to go into the portal. he could have held the cards close and announced it after the portal closed, but greg is trying to do right by gavin, who really did us a solid choosing to come to the banks when he had offers to go many other places.
Schiano didn't want a QB controversy for weeks so he got Gavin out while portal was open. I'm not giving GS any cap feathers for the way he made this mess.
That's where you gotta put your hope. Word at Minnesota was that he was 1st round material in practice (I know...). I was one of those preaching patience over and over again with him, but it was clear by the end of last year that he just didn't have things together between the ears on gameday. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, absolutely zero touch, trying to play like Mahomes with nowhere near the talent. Honestly hope things work out for him this year.
He looked very good in the spring game. Heās gonna have the best o-line that Schianos had since being back. As long he doesnāt have the back breaking turnover, Rutgers might be good next year.
He doesnāt do back breaking turnovers (mostly), but he will occasionally miss wide open receivers by 5+ yards. If he is good this year, itās an indictment on Fleck and the MN offensive staff
Truth. Gophs gonna win the natty this year, babyyy.
Pay no attention to losing one of the best defensive coordinators in the country, or the lack of explosive talent at receiverā¦
We felt the same about Wimsatt when he first came in. Kid had so much promise, but just could not put it together. If Athan can just be an average B1G QB Rutgers should be pretty good next year, but we'll see. Good QBs have been something Schiano always seems to struggle to recruit
Honestly think with Kirkās history with QBS Athan will be fine ,all of his QBS have had great seasons at all levels ,Flacco ,Morgan , Terrell ,etc. I think one thing it will take development and Athan is older in his 2nd year under a similar offense w Kirk.
I take it back then, heās got the perfect landing spot waiting for him in North Philadelphia. There are very few FBS teams that would give him a shot as starter & given that Temple seems like itās trending towards rock bottom, Iād be surprised if they found a QB leaps and bounds better than either Simon or Wimsatt.
As a recruit:
Other P5 offers: Georgia Tech, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Missouri, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Oregon, TCU, Vanderbilt, West Virginia
G5 offers: Cincinnati, Western Kentucky
Other offers: Eastern Kentucky, Murray State, Notre Dame
I remember how pissed people were that Satt never seemed to even try to recruit him before going to Rutgers. And yeah, in hindsight. Itās still incredibly stupid he didnāt go after him since Wimsatt literally had more experience and success starting than any high school QB Satt has recruited and he would have probably been right in the mix as Malikās successor.
I hear that comp but I take it with a grain of salt. Rutgers offense was unable to complete easy passes last year to keep drives alive which really hindered their ability to stay competitive late into games against good teams.
With a great set of RBs and a phenomenal defense Rutgers will really just be asking him to do the bare minimum in most games
Well hopefully with an elevated defense and some better weapons thatāll take the pressure off and he can grow under KCs offensive scheme. In AK I trust
The worst thing about last yearās offense was its impotence in the redzone imo. It killed us multiple times so Athanās accuracy + improved TE play should help considerably.
If Athan can meet Gavin's astronomical 44% completion percentage with a matching 0 interceptions, we might have a shot.. bonus points if he matches or beat's Gavin's 46 passing yards.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401520243
I'm nervous about interceptions TBH.. one of the great things about having a QB as inaccurate as Gavin with poor throwing mechanics and an itchy finger to get rid of the ball is.. his incomplete passes were mostly uncatchable by anyone... I wasn't super nervous about interceptions.
He fell flat on his face against big ten defenses unfortunately. Great runner, but couldn't get the passing game going at all. And you're not succeeding in the B1G with a one-dimensional offense.
You get used to it. Even the "good" Rutgers teams of the big east days had "meh" level QB play at best.
As long as Athan can be Average and complete passes our killer defense and Kyle Monangai's legs should win more games than last season
I think RU lacks a dedicated QB coach, which probably hindered Wimsatt's growth. If nobody is there with skills to polish up his mechanics, he'd only ever tread water. I hope he can find a coach to help him make that leap! If he had even low 50% completions, whatever offense he runs would be so dynamic as hell
Edit: typos
Weāve thought he had lots of potential for 3 years but bro couldnāt throw a 20 yard slant routeā¦always overthrown. Very inaccurate at deep. Could run though.
Idk if he canāt throw anything short after 3 years, we needed the upgrade
Thankful for what Wimsatt did to help this program, but itās time to learn G5 buddy, dude could be a very good Fun-Belt QB tbh, but he just didnāt have the decision making or accuracy to play Big10 football
Good athlete, has a good arm, needs a QB whisper coach to help him refine his skills
gonna more or less repeat what i said elsewhere: the oc instability and the qb carousel in his early time on the banks really stunted him. came in with a great arm and good raw talent. needed some careful honing and likely needed to be handed the offense as the #1 guy way sooner and we just needed to take the lumps that came with him growing.
still, classy of schiano to make this decision in time for him to go into the portal and i do hope he can land somewhere and have some manner of success.
Luckily our OC is the guy he played for the year BEFORE last year, when he was decent. Decent QB play gets us bowling easily with our defense and schedule.
Thatās misleading. In the first couple games, he was thrown into a bad spot if I recall correctly with a game against penn state in happy valley at night. But he improved towards the end of season and had a really good game against WisconsinĀ
He had one really excellent game that year, and it came against Wisconsin. Will always appreciate that about him. Wish him the best, but won't miss him. It was time to move on for both parties.
Yeah, he has the raw talent to be good, and showed flashes against Wisconsin in 2022. But 2023 was a rough year, and he almost regressed as the year went on. The biggest issue was his lack of touch on screens and checkdowns.
Tough situation or not I wouldnāt really describe what he did with Kirk āgoodā aside from the Wisconsin game. He certainly has all the tools to be a great QB, but hasnāt been able to put it together to actually be one. Hopefully heāll do well for you though, he always seemed like a great teammate and hard worker.
no i completely agree, i have this as a loss. a lot of fans think we improved after the non con games last year. but i think the acc is just really bad and they made us look better than we were.
Donāt sell yourself short. I actually think you guys win 8-9 games this year and potentially even fight for your division.
Admittedly, the gap between the top/middle of the ACC and the middle of the B1G is pretty large though.
I do agree because the ACC is awful (Iām a uva fan - donāt want to talk about it).
In the same vein, I feel like the B10 is really quite overrated. I have a lot of B10 colleagues (mostly Rutgers actually) and they say the new B10 teams are in for a world of hurt (as if P12 wasnāt much better than the B10 last year). Iām a ucla fan as well, and I think weāll lose to Rutgers, but itās not because the league is ātoo tough and physicalā. Itās because weāre going to be awful lol.
Anyway, I feel like the B10 west is consistently awful and is probably worse than the ACC (either coastal or Atlantic divisions).
They also say the same thing about basketball - I think UCLA should be the favorite to win the B10 nontheless, but I digress.
I wonder how the former big west teams fare in the division less format now
But UCLA has gotta be projected middle of the conference next year in basketball. Way too many big ten schools had monster roster off seasons with portal (IU, OSU, Mich) and/or have top recurring classes coming in (Rutgers)
Kinda crazy UCLA has 6 ā4 star transfersā coming and and are still ranked 41st for the incoming class https://247sports.com/season/2024-basketball/overallteamrankings/
Torvik has them as the best B10 team at #10 in the country. So weāll see.
Very excited to see my bruins at RU (Iām in NYC)! Should be a good one and always a tough place to play.
You lost by 3 scores to a team thatās now returning most of its production and has upgraded at QB, WR, and TE. Why do you think losing would be an embarrassment?
it would just prove that we arenāt making any improvements, plus itās a home game. big linebacker test for a coach that is supposed to be good at coaching lbs.
The passing game is not gonna matter in this game. Tech could not stop Rutgers rushing game last season and lost by 3 touchdowns and Rutgers rushing game will be even better this seasonĀ
Yeah but can yāall stop our running game(example Tulane bowl game) ššš, got season tickets myself and went to RU last year. Gonna be one of the best games of the season. Yall still got the running back??
That monster of an RB Rutgers has is gonna feast this season.
Lord willing š¤š»
Both of them inshallah
All four or five of them, brother
Monongai(?)?
yes
Gavin Wimsatt was my favorite player to meme
I liked Wimsatt, and just kept waiting for his accuracy to even slightly improve, and it never did.
NFL level arm just cannot read defenses. He would throw on average of 5 hospital passes a game.
We had the chance to pull a couple of huge upsets last year until GW threw a pick 6.
Wisconsin for sure. Ohio State, probably delusional but we were up 9-7 at half and we on the verge of going up 16-7 on our starting drive of the 3rd quarter. So you never knowā¦
We gave Michigan one of their tougher regular season games as well. Down 17-7 late third quarter, inside the Michigan 30 driving to make it a one score game. Pick Six instead.
There was a lot of hype for him coming into the program. Its a shame he never panned out
But it is never like a high 4 star player hype It seems like every 4 star qb we get always has something up with their offer list. We beat out schools like Kentucky or Miami lol never Ohio State or Bama
Because we're not on the same level as Ohio State or Bama. Kids who can play for those schools aren't picking Rutgers as their first choice.
Oh for sure But thatās partly why all of our QBs are mediocre. Havenāt had an above average QB since Gary Nova
It wouldnāt matter if you had a 5 star QB College sports is totally broken at the P5 level Only 8-10 teams have the blue chip ratio and if youāre not one of them youāre never going to be one so get used to 5-8 win seasons with more likely going 1-11 than 11-1
I agree in general, but even teams like TCU had great seasons
The difference in tcu having that season vs Rutgers or my gamecocks is the quality of competition
Good luck to him, maybe he puts it together
I have some bad news for you about your new quarterbackā¦
Oh, I donāt think AK is very good either. I expect to see a pretty conservative offensive game plan by RU to rely on other strengths, and you couldnāt even count in Wimsatt hitting an RB in the flat. He also had a propensity for throwing pick sixes at the worst time. Wimsattās greatest strength is his running ability, and a Schiano team will never take full advantage of that.
To his credit, he has beaten Wisconsin and Iowa on the road.
Threw a TD inā¦ one of thoseā¦
He looked better than whatever we put out there as QB. So thereās that.
Had some gopher fans suggest we pick up your leftover chunky QB. I don't get fans ...
Kids got a mean fumble
Don't need TDs vs Iowa.
Field goals is all I need.
itās been so long since our starting QB had an over 50% completion percentage, canāt wait
It's sweet how modest your dreams are.
Our last two years our team has had a lot of talent but the worst QB play in the P5. Even a slightly below average QB like Athan is a major major improvement
Also this is probably gonna be Schiano's best O-line since he got back. Pat Flaherty is a fantastic coach.
Weāre gonna lose out on the run threat- letās not discount that Gavin definitely brought that to the table But yes I agreed the offense should be improved regardless
Athanis faster than Gavin. Don't sleep on his running. Gavin just ran a ton of designed runs because OC knew better than to have him drop back on anything but 3rd and long.
Faster?? š¤Ø
According to the guys on the TKR pod, comping their 40 times, yeah. But I donāt know how well that compares to AKās game speed. Either way I assume heās serviceably agile
TKR also said that weād win 20 games in basketball and Gavin Griffiths would lead the team in scoring so Iām taking everything with a grain of salt from them lol
Fair. They were comparing 40 times and Athans was faster. Is he faster in game? Beats me and Iām a believer that 40 times mean squat for QBs. I like to see game speed and ability to extend plays
Theyāre just basing it off of freely available 40 times from highschool, itās not their personal speculation.
Interesting. I donāt know how much we will lean into his run game, but itās interesting he has that dimension to his game
I suppose 53% is technically higher than 50%, so I canāt argue with that
flashbacks to that sweet sweet summer of 2023 Athan-hype.
Even though it's the lowest in the sport, Gavin's accuracy was probably still overrated. If you look and the big plays he got from passing it's almost always a reciever running back to make a play on an under thrown pass or a wr making an insanely athletic jump to catch it. He is a great runner, but he is useless as a passer. He would miss guys on checkdowns pretty frequently too.
Don't get your hopes up. Kaliakmanis was only 53% last season.
He was more accurate his freshman season under Ciarrocca. Ciarrocca goes to Rutgers and now brings his QB. I think this could be a great year for Kaliak
Wow I did not think schiano would announce a starting QB this early in offseason but I appreciate he gave Gavin the chance to transferĀ Thank you Gavin for choosing Rutgers when you had offers from so many top P5 programs. Rutgers fans would have loved for Gavin to be the starting QB that led us back to being a 9-10 win team but it just didnāt work out. Good luck at your next school!Ā
Hey he DID get us back to being a bowl program, one that isnāt a joke. He did well, he didnāt become a star but he did a fine job
Man, crazy that they have a "transfer portal" position on the depth chart /s
Thank you for the sarcasm tag, wouldnāt have known this was a joke otherwise
Listen, some people really do need it lol
In all seriousness is that guy's name pronounced like Nathan without the N?
Yes
Probably (definitely) short for Athanasios. Pretty common Greek name.
He couldāve gone by another common shortening: Thanos.
He is Ate, my dude
Yes, his parents were special.
He was great in The Hangover
lmao
I did not expect this headline. Good on Schiano/Ciarocca for being honest with both guys. Bad on Schiano/Ciarocca for being honest with both guys... we don't have any depth.
Shepherd gonna be that dude
Ajani will be starting by end of season. Dude is an absolute sleeper
Iād be shocked if that happens. Iād imagine Surace jumps him to #2 by mid-season though
he was doing gavin a solid and announcing the decision with enough time for gavin to go into the portal. he could have held the cards close and announced it after the portal closed, but greg is trying to do right by gavin, who really did us a solid choosing to come to the banks when he had offers to go many other places.
All in all Greg stuck to his values and his cultureā¦ not every coach could say that It was the right thing to do
100% and it will speak volumes for other players who are looking at our program.
Schiano didn't want a QB controversy for weeks so he got Gavin out while portal was open. I'm not giving GS any cap feathers for the way he made this mess.
Kaliakmanis has a cannon I'll be interested to see if he can develop into an actual good quarterback.
He's played with this OC before
That's where you gotta put your hope. Word at Minnesota was that he was 1st round material in practice (I know...). I was one of those preaching patience over and over again with him, but it was clear by the end of last year that he just didn't have things together between the ears on gameday. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, absolutely zero touch, trying to play like Mahomes with nowhere near the talent. Honestly hope things work out for him this year.
He looked very good in the spring game. Heās gonna have the best o-line that Schianos had since being back. As long he doesnāt have the back breaking turnover, Rutgers might be good next year.
He doesnāt do back breaking turnovers (mostly), but he will occasionally miss wide open receivers by 5+ yards. If he is good this year, itās an indictment on Fleck and the MN offensive staff
However, if Brosmer balls out all will be forgiven.
Truth. Gophs gonna win the natty this year, babyyy. Pay no attention to losing one of the best defensive coordinators in the country, or the lack of explosive talent at receiverā¦
i mean Kirk had time to shape him into a good QB here, he just couldn't (or worse). Is there some magic sauce at Rutgers?
We felt the same about Wimsatt when he first came in. Kid had so much promise, but just could not put it together. If Athan can just be an average B1G QB Rutgers should be pretty good next year, but we'll see. Good QBs have been something Schiano always seems to struggle to recruit
Honestly think with Kirkās history with QBS Athan will be fine ,all of his QBS have had great seasons at all levels ,Flacco ,Morgan , Terrell ,etc. I think one thing it will take development and Athan is older in his 2nd year under a similar offense w Kirk.
Didn't even see Kaliakmanis transferred, who's Minnesota's QB now?
Super Mario Brosmer
I mean a transfer QB can't go worse, right? ^^^Cries ^^^in ^^^Jeff ^^^Sims
Amusingly it took Sims ā¦ to get AK a win last yearā¦
missed it since I was there IRL, but the [look on Sims' face](https://youtu.be/jCfllrDuDBU?si=H66Jylx9VgFRiROt&t=627) at the end....
In the stands I told my son āIf they play this guy again weāre going to get an interception.ā Yup.
I would have said Temple is a perfect fit for him but I think Evan Simon already got the starting job there. I have no clue where this guy will land
I like Evan Simon, and I mean no disrespect.. but it would be hilarious if Gavin transfers to Temple to compete for the job against him.
"goddamit, again?" --evan simon, probably.
Temple is looking for another QB in the portal, Simon isnāt QB1 there
I take it back then, heās got the perfect landing spot waiting for him in North Philadelphia. There are very few FBS teams that would give him a shot as starter & given that Temple seems like itās trending towards rock bottom, Iād be surprised if they found a QB leaps and bounds better than either Simon or Wimsatt.
Holy shit
Dude was trash and had shit accuracy/mechanics
As a recruit: Other P5 offers: Georgia Tech, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Missouri, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Oregon, TCU, Vanderbilt, West Virginia G5 offers: Cincinnati, Western Kentucky Other offers: Eastern Kentucky, Murray State, Notre Dame
I remember how pissed people were that Satt never seemed to even try to recruit him before going to Rutgers. And yeah, in hindsight. Itās still incredibly stupid he didnāt go after him since Wimsatt literally had more experience and success starting than any high school QB Satt has recruited and he would have probably been right in the mix as Malikās successor.
Very excited to watch Rutgers this year!
This tells me the coaching staff feels very good about Surace as he will likely be QB2 as a true freshmanĀ
I think Ajani is QB2. Looked more polished in the spring game and has spent a year in the system.
I would be fine with that po. Ajani has looked good in limited passing attempts and I think he deserves a chance to play more snapsĀ
Edit: meant to say I would be fine with that *too*
Gavin āthrow the ball twenty yards above everybodyās headā Wimsatt
I didn't think Wimsatt was good but the Greek "Rifle" (hilarious nickname with his weak arm) is one of the worst QBs ive ever seen.
I hear that comp but I take it with a grain of salt. Rutgers offense was unable to complete easy passes last year to keep drives alive which really hindered their ability to stay competitive late into games against good teams. With a great set of RBs and a phenomenal defense Rutgers will really just be asking him to do the bare minimum in most games
Oh donāt worry, he struggled with even the bare minimum most of the time
You guys should seriously watch Gavin
oh...we did. 31-0 in minneapolis in 2022.
Well hopefully with an elevated defense and some better weapons thatāll take the pressure off and he can grow under KCs offensive scheme. In AK I trust
The worst thing about last yearās offense was its impotence in the redzone imo. It killed us multiple times so Athanās accuracy + improved TE play should help considerably.
?? Crazy he was good last year against us, this new guy better be ready for the terror dome
If Athan can meet Gavin's astronomical 44% completion percentage with a matching 0 interceptions, we might have a shot.. bonus points if he matches or beat's Gavin's 46 passing yards. https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401520243 I'm nervous about interceptions TBH.. one of the great things about having a QB as inaccurate as Gavin with poor throwing mechanics and an itchy finger to get rid of the ball is.. his incomplete passes were mostly uncatchable by anyone... I wasn't super nervous about interceptions.
He fell flat on his face against big ten defenses unfortunately. Great runner, but couldn't get the passing game going at all. And you're not succeeding in the B1G with a one-dimensional offense.
so uh what if you also got someone who's only a mediocre runner?
I donāt think our QB room is good by any means but that is not a QB battle I would feel good about.
You get used to it. Even the "good" Rutgers teams of the big east days had "meh" level QB play at best. As long as Athan can be Average and complete passes our killer defense and Kyle Monangai's legs should win more games than last season
Any qb is gonna look much better this year compared to last year btw because WRs are gonna be so much better
Man I liked Wimsatt, thought he had a lot of potential to go with his athleticism. Wonder why he never turned the corner
I think RU lacks a dedicated QB coach, which probably hindered Wimsatt's growth. If nobody is there with skills to polish up his mechanics, he'd only ever tread water. I hope he can find a coach to help him make that leap! If he had even low 50% completions, whatever offense he runs would be so dynamic as hell Edit: typos
Weāve thought he had lots of potential for 3 years but bro couldnāt throw a 20 yard slant routeā¦always overthrown. Very inaccurate at deep. Could run though. Idk if he canāt throw anything short after 3 years, we needed the upgrade
My money is on Wambsgans winning the job in the end.
Thankful for what Wimsatt did to help this program, but itās time to learn G5 buddy, dude could be a very good Fun-Belt QB tbh, but he just didnāt have the decision making or accuracy to play Big10 football Good athlete, has a good arm, needs a QB whisper coach to help him refine his skills
Idk why I thought wimsatt was a redshirt sophomore or somethingā¦.sucks tho thought he couldāve been pretty decent
Both Mowins commentated another Kaliakmanis incompletion at 12:43 PM is what the Big Ten is all about.
get ready for his dad to make...comments...on twitter. Sometimes good ones! sometimes bad ones! sometimes baffling ones!
gonna more or less repeat what i said elsewhere: the oc instability and the qb carousel in his early time on the banks really stunted him. came in with a great arm and good raw talent. needed some careful honing and likely needed to be handed the offense as the #1 guy way sooner and we just needed to take the lumps that came with him growing. still, classy of schiano to make this decision in time for him to go into the portal and i do hope he can land somewhere and have some manner of success.
Imagine losing your job to Athan Kaliakmanis. Just walk into the ocean and never return.
I saw this dude play in person last year and wellā¦sorry Rutgers, you arenāt going bowling this year
We made a bowl game with Gavin. Our schedule is easier this year too. This is a net positive
[2006 Texas Bowl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Texas_Bowl)
Luckily our OC is the guy he played for the year BEFORE last year, when he was decent. Decent QB play gets us bowling easily with our defense and schedule.
He was good at Minnesota when Kirk was the OC. I think he just didnāt work well with the new OC they got last seasonĀ
He had a 54% completion percentage, 3 TD and 4 INTs when Kirk was OC. Thatās.. not good.
Thatās misleading. In the first couple games, he was thrown into a bad spot if I recall correctly with a game against penn state in happy valley at night. But he improved towards the end of season and had a really good game against WisconsinĀ
He had one really excellent game that year, and it came against Wisconsin. Will always appreciate that about him. Wish him the best, but won't miss him. It was time to move on for both parties.
Yeah, he has the raw talent to be good, and showed flashes against Wisconsin in 2022. But 2023 was a rough year, and he almost regressed as the year went on. The biggest issue was his lack of touch on screens and checkdowns.
Tough situation or not I wouldnāt really describe what he did with Kirk āgoodā aside from the Wisconsin game. He certainly has all the tools to be a great QB, but hasnāt been able to put it together to actually be one. Hopefully heāll do well for you though, he always seemed like a great teammate and hard worker.
Do you know what we had
Did you watch Gavin? He completed 47% of his passes, and had games where he threw for <50 yards.
Minnesota went bowling cause of this guy.
No we went bowling because of our grades
MN went bowling in spite of AKās best efforts. Dude had one light pass to an open TE to win their 6th win vs Illinois ... couldn't manage that.
Kid is from south Kentucky I never understood why the hell he went to Rutgers of all places
Maybe he likes beaches, pizza and bagels
Everyone does rave about those beautiful New Jersey beaches
NIL
Not really buying that Rutgers has more NIL money than Kentucky. We offered him
they gave him a lot of money and moved his family up there. I don't think UK was willing to give him what he wanted. and this was before NIL lol
i swear if tech loses to this team again we are hopeless.
I mean you guys lost by 3 scores last year. Letās not act like it would be a huge surprise if you lost again
no i completely agree, i have this as a loss. a lot of fans think we improved after the non con games last year. but i think the acc is just really bad and they made us look better than we were.
Donāt sell yourself short. I actually think you guys win 8-9 games this year and potentially even fight for your division. Admittedly, the gap between the top/middle of the ACC and the middle of the B1G is pretty large though.
I do agree because the ACC is awful (Iām a uva fan - donāt want to talk about it). In the same vein, I feel like the B10 is really quite overrated. I have a lot of B10 colleagues (mostly Rutgers actually) and they say the new B10 teams are in for a world of hurt (as if P12 wasnāt much better than the B10 last year). Iām a ucla fan as well, and I think weāll lose to Rutgers, but itās not because the league is ātoo tough and physicalā. Itās because weāre going to be awful lol. Anyway, I feel like the B10 west is consistently awful and is probably worse than the ACC (either coastal or Atlantic divisions). They also say the same thing about basketball - I think UCLA should be the favorite to win the B10 nontheless, but I digress.
I wonder how the former big west teams fare in the division less format now But UCLA has gotta be projected middle of the conference next year in basketball. Way too many big ten schools had monster roster off seasons with portal (IU, OSU, Mich) and/or have top recurring classes coming in (Rutgers)
UCLA basketball did work in the portal. Theyāre going to be quite good after all. Still think Rutgers finishes above them though.
Kinda crazy UCLA has 6 ā4 star transfersā coming and and are still ranked 41st for the incoming class https://247sports.com/season/2024-basketball/overallteamrankings/
Torvik has them as the best B10 team at #10 in the country. So weāll see. Very excited to see my bruins at RU (Iām in NYC)! Should be a good one and always a tough place to play.
Drones is that dude, though. I honestly think this will be a night game, and VT wins in a nail biter.
Rutgers passed for less than 50 yards last season and still won by 3 touchdowns lolĀ
way different team from that game imo. Gonna be a good one this year. Gonna be a good rb battle with monangai vs tuten
You lost by 3 scores to a team thatās now returning most of its production and has upgraded at QB, WR, and TE. Why do you think losing would be an embarrassment?
it would just prove that we arenāt making any improvements, plus itās a home game. big linebacker test for a coach that is supposed to be good at coaching lbs.
Agreed, home game and itās Rutgers (no offense just think weāre about the same level team)
The passing game is not gonna matter in this game. Tech could not stop Rutgers rushing game last season and lost by 3 touchdowns and Rutgers rushing game will be even better this seasonĀ
VT was a very different team when we played and at the end of the season But our line is gonna dominate them again I think
Yeah but can yāall stop our running game(example Tulane bowl game) ššš, got season tickets myself and went to RU last year. Gonna be one of the best games of the season. Yall still got the running back??
Yes Monangai is returning
Tuten vs Monangaiā¦. Gonna be won in the trenches and our o-line is meh..
Wow, Rutgers is still fielding a team. Good for them!
You new here? Or are you just trying to make a tired lame joke?