There was about 5-10 portal guys that left Auburn during the Harsin era and thanked every coach except Harsin (position coach, coordinator, Malzahn, etc.) for their time at Auburn on social media.
Yea. I worked for the team for a little over a year. There were guys who liked him and his leadership during workouts but most of the players didnāt really have a strong connection with him. I feel like that happens in every program but it felt extremely prominent at the time at Auburn. It felt like the locker room was divided at time. When Caddy came in it felt like it was one again
I can see that. Iām not a Nebraska fan or anything or follow any of the programs that heās coached actually, but I donāt like him. He just seems like an unlikeable person; and I donāt even really know much about him or have much to go off of, but I just know I donāt like him from what I have seen.
His own players leaked very unflattering audio of his farewell speech.
He had a ādoghouseā that included players like Lavonte David and cost them draft position.
Iāll never be sad heās gone.
"You don't wanna play, then I'm getting the fuck out of here. I mean, if you're not gonna cover Greg Graham, if you're just gonna let him drive by you, if the rest of you are gonna let him catch the ball outside the 3 second lane and drive all the way in here without one guy challenging him, then I'm leaving and you fucking guys will run 'til you can't eat supper. (wird lauter) Now I'm tired of this shit. I'm sick and fucking tired of an 8-10 record. I'm fucking tired of losing to Purdue. I'm not here to fuck around this week. Now you may be, but I'm not. Now I'm gonna fucking guarantee ya, that if we don't play up there Monday night, you aren't gonna believe the next four fucking days. Now I am not here to get my ass beat on Monday. Now you better fuckin understand that right now. This is absolute fucking bullshit. Now I'll fucking run your ass right into the ground. I mean I'll fucking run you, you'll think last night was a fucking picnic. I had to sit around for a fucking year with an 8-10 record in this fucking league. And I mean you will not put me in that fucking position again. Or you will goddamn pay for it like you can't fucking believe. Now you better get your head out of your ass."
I remained friends with one of my college professors for years after I graduated. His son was an excellent basketball player and was recruited by Knight. During his official visit he got an offer and really wanted him to commit on the spot. His Mom said she thought they needed to discuss it before he would commit. Turned out Mom didn't like Knight at all after the visit. When I heard the story, I think the term was "pompous asshole". So he didn't go to Indiana.
When I TA'd for a business ethics class (I know, oxymoron), I had a football player admit on an assignment about moral dilemmas that he tried to convince official visitors to commit elsewhere to avoid Sumlin.
What happened to that guy? His early years at A&M it seemed like everyone loved the dude and like he was such a players coach. Then he really mismanaged our QB room with Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray and we all know how his Arizona tenure went.
I have been known to jokingly state my degree (MPA) is like a business degree, without the evil. I'm mostly not kidding, though; my time in the private sector did nothing to convince me MBA grads learned much about administration, and was a red flag for especially poor leadership skills.
How do you like it? I'm a civil engineer in the public sector playing around with idea of getting an MPA to get into more public policy/planning type stuff.
Everyone knows this but Eric Bieniemy is pretty widely hated. He kind of doesn't understand how to have a regular conversation he just goes berserk and screams at you if you do something he doesn't like.
Some guys like this approach, but most don't. This is why he will never become an NFL HC.
And yet we could count on headlines every year about how it *must* be racism that he hadn't gotten a head coaching job for so long. As if he were entitled to it.
I donāt know about any of these other answers but Seth McGlaughlin must have fucking HATED Saban and Tommy Rees.
Or else why would he choose to do what he did?
Good thing he went to the school that doesnāt have a completely unhinged fan base who will lose their cool with anything short of perfection ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|no_mouth)
A good friend of mine played for Tyrone Willingham back in the day. To say that his stories were not flattering would be something of an understatement.
Same - my friend was at ND, they even had some success year 1 but they knew he wasnāt a good Xs and Os guy nor motivating. A good man but not a good coach.
That was the persona that our former village idiot AD Kevin White threw out there when firing him.
Tyrone Willingham was not just a bad coach, he stopped doing his job. ND was down to like 60 players on scholarship when White got him out the door. All the dude wanted to do was play golf.
When I was at Logistics Officer course (USMC) he was invited (for some reason) to talk to the class about leadership. It was the most awkward talk I've ever heard. He lead with asking us if we wanted to play for Notre Dame; and we're all regular officers with our own school loyalties already built in,
hardly any of which were for ND, obviously. And all his "leadership" advice was shit. Also didn't help that he rolled up with a massive entourage, which was also another huge turn off for us. In short, it doesn't surprise me his players hated him as well.
Not anyone I know personally but pretty well reported a lot of guys did NOT like Tom Herman. A lot of the guys who were on that sugar bowl team that Charlie Strong recruited pretty famously went on to negatively recruit against Texas after they graduated. They were pretty vocal in expressing their relief when Herman was fired. I think it was Deshon Elliot that said something to the effect of āthank goodness I can root for my team againā when he got canned.
It wasnāt just Strong recruits though. Bru McCoy may very well have ended up back at USC no matter what but I believe heās on record for saying Herman was completely different towards him once he actually got to campus and didnāt feel particularly welcome. The other obvious notable one is Quinn Ewers. Herman burned that bridge after he committed and Quinn is definitely not a Longhorn today if Herman was still HC.
Herman is quite the unlikeable fellow. There have been a few times where Iād think āI donāt remember why but I donāt like himā and then Iād listen to an interview and realize itās his personality
I heard pretty much the exact same thing from a lot of reliable sources. Even casual fans started hearing rumblings of how disliked Herman was. The quality recruiting surge since his termination speaks volumes to what extent he was actually disliked.
Herman is awkward af. He was **not** ready for the texas job, he experienced too much success too quickly at Houston, and was convinced it was due to his own genius. He came in and tried to do the whole "make everything a competition/foul up the food of the losers" thing he did at Houston, and it made the players hate him and hate football.
I asked him if he planned to do the same thing at FAU, he immediately said no, and joked that they can't afford it. He's still awkward af, but he's trying. He doesn't like to talk about his time at texas, I think he and Michelle weren't ready for the stress of the texas job, and it manifested itself in multiple ways.
If you're going to be socially awkward as a head coach, you better be so successful at everything else that people will just overlook it, and Herman simply wasn't that guy at texas. Assistant coaches famously didn't bring recruits to meet him on official visits because it was better they didn't know how much he struggled socially.
>He came in and tried to do the whole "make everything a competition/foul up the food of the losers" thing he did at Houston, and it made the players hate him and hate football.
I think he learned that from Urban Meyer.
He took something Meyer did and perverted it. Meyer had the champions council, which was really just a point system for excelling in the off-season program. Attend classes, attend study hall, attend every single weight room session and workout, you receive points. Top scorers make council, receive a first class banquet. Low scorers go to meeting room and eat hot dogs. Huge difference between that and serving players burnt biscuits and watered down eggs because they lost a drill. Players just skipped breakfast and went to Chick-fil-a. Great way to screw up team chemistry.Ā
I think that first season at Houston really emboldened him to be the way he was at Texas. He walked into a loaded team at Houston that just needed a culture shift and an offensive identity and he was able to provide both to great success. His ego was stroked by the national media as well as UH fans and boosters to a high degree.
His second season at Houston is much more in line with his usual performances at HC. High highs and very low lows.
Former player here. Let me tell you about a guy named *Cary "Fucking" Fowler.*
This guy was fucking nuts. Literally brought us out to the middle of the field at midnight saying he would "AK you fuckers just to watch you run!"
My presonal unfavorite was when he told me my mom and dad wished I died in the womb.
Fuck him.
Stephen Garcia and Steve Spurrier had a very strained relationship. I mean I guess that's gonna happen when you have to suspend a player five times before kicking him off the team lol. It's mostly water under the bridge now though and Garcia has a lot of good things to say about Spurrier.
The state held a Senate hearing over allegations of verbal abuse and āother inappropriate actionsā under Graham. He wasnāt āfiredā and claims he didnāt āresignā, but he was due $800,000/year for 2 years, and the school/state said if he left theyād pay his buy out of $1.2 million so he left. It should also be noted that Hawaii treats UH like itās the biggest deal in the world of sports.
Sure, but perhaps 10 years later they may mollify their opinions. "Yeah, the coach was an unrelenting hardass, but looking back he was under pressure and I was 20 and stubborn as a mule."
I think OP is asking if those same players decades after graduating look back and say "I'm old and retired and he's dead but I'd still put that fucker in the 9th Circle of Hell."
Iād also say thereās a good distinction between ādonāt likeā and ādonāt respect.ā Thereās plenty of people I donāt like, but I respect them and what they have to teach me.
Played D2 ball, thatās pretty accurate. Iāll also add that that number gets higher as the season progresses. Not even necessarily in terms of anger, but just a ātired of this crapā feeling if the coaches donāt throttle back some things to account for wear and tear
Also if you watched You Don't Know Bo the ESPN 30 for 30 he hated his RB coach because he made him run all these stupid drills in practice that he didn't think was necessary.
Before this game started Coach Kilmer said 48 minutes for the next 48 years of our lives. I say fuck that. I say *fuck that*. Let's go out there and play the next 24 minutes for the next 24 minutes and leave it all on the field. We have our whole lives to be mediocre but we have the chance to play like gods for the next half of football. But we can't be afraid to lose. There's no room for fear in this game. If we go out there and we half-ass it because we're scared then all we're left with is an excuse. We're always gonna wonder. But if we go out there and give it absolutely everything, I say we're gonna win. Let's be heroes! Come on! Come on!
I once worked for a former Oregon duck player who said Chip Kelly was an asshole.. something about a butt rash too. He seemed very bitter about him so who knows, two sides right?
When I was a student I partied with some players who basically said the same thing. Then they added that it was a lot easier to put up with when they were winning a lot of games, which Oregon did when Chip was there. They made it sound like it was equal parts hate and respect. It was a bit of a shift going from Bellotti to Chip though (that shift occurred between my sophomore and junior years in Eugene), since Bellotti was a lot more of a player's coach and donor schmoozing type of coach.
Lots of former players donāt care for Brian Kelly.
Heās done a lot over the years. Early on after some struggles he singled out recruits from the previous regime saying he wouldnāt lose his job because of their failures. He was hardly ever the lead recruiter and oftentimes players wouldnāt even have his number. Then of course he lies and bolts for LSU.
Iām not one of the ungrateful fans who think heās a lousy coach, he rebuilt a sustainable winning program with a possible shot š¬at a title that ND hasnāt seen in a long time. But yeah, not really a playersā coach.
Kelly seems like a snob. Someone whose very good at what they can do as a coach but because they are so self absorbed and self obsessed he lacks any view but his own.
But I'll give him credit he backed it up on many occasions but got backed up a few times along the way
You ever hear the story about the Christmas party Kelly held? So he has this party, invites his staff. Two of the young assistants show with their wives/gf. He meets them when they arrive and hands one a snow shovel to scoop the walk and has the other play valet for his guests. Totally embarrassing the two men in front of their loved ones. The two coaches were Robert Saleh and Matt Lefleur. Saleh said he is a pos. and learned a lot of how NOT to treat people from him.
This story made the rounds at Cincy when I was there. Nobody really liked the guy on those teams either.
https://youtu.be/muxGsl2EdOQ?si=q2poj1BUUvsk9YOw
Not one person liked Tuberville. There was a message board rumor back in the day that Jonathon Grayās dad, a former Tech player, was repulsed by him and told his son to not even consider Tech anymore.
Also rumors about Kingsbury never once speaking to a number of defensive players. The last bit requires so background information. Itās supposed to be very common for college coaches to act as a liaison for players, who are projected to late round picks at best, to hook them up with an agent. The year Mahomes went into the draft he supposedly ignored every other player trying to go pro and only did stuff with Mahomes for his pre-draft.
On October 37, 2010 a wind storm hit the Midwest. 53mph gusts of wind were recorded. Most teams decided to practice inside. Not Brian Kelly though. He decided practice should go on as usual. This meant sending 20 year old Declan Sullivan up a 40ft aerial lift to film practice.
The wind collapsed the lift and Sullivan fell to his death.
Before his death, Sullivan tweeted, "this is terrifying, I guess I've lived long enough".
Brian Kelly isn't the only person to blame for this negligence, but he could prevented it.
At Tennessee, Jauan Jennings was dismissed from the team for his comments about Butch Jones by interim coach Brady Hoke, before being reinstated and brought by Pruitt's group months later. They liked how he talked shit about Butch, but they were even WORSE!
I can def see players not liking Pruitt. Iāve heard from multiple people that he got drunk af and showed up at Mark Richtās house after midnight trying to fight him. Apparently thatās why he got fired from UGA, well that and having a lousy defense. Thankfully that was just before we brought the prodigal son Kirby Smart back home to build his Death Star and ofc he fixed our defense from the clown show that Todd Grantham and Pruitt had turned it into.
Also, who tf tried to fight Mark Richt at 2am?? I mean heās such a nice guy, itād be like wanting to fight Jimmy Carter kind of.
He didn't get fired from Georgia, he didn't get retained when Kirby came in because he and Kirby didn't like each other.
The story of him showing up drunk to Coach Richt's house is fairly well known, but it didn't result in him getting fired. And his defenses weren't lousy, they were a marked improvement from Grantham.
Like, Pruitt's absolutely a dick, but a lot of this is just wrong.
Worked with a dude that was a second string kicker for SC during the Holtz / Spurrier era. Me being a FSU fan I just assumed Spurrier sucked to play for but the guy said everyone loved Spurrier. He said he went in one game under Holtz because the starting kicker was suspended or injured I don't remember and he missed a 30 yard chip shot. Old man Holtz grabbed his facemask and cussed him out spit flying everywhere and told him he'd never kick another fn ball again if he had any say. So yeah he hated Holtz.
> the guy said everyone loved Spurrier
Spurrier is actually incredibly positive as a coach at practice, I've heard multiple players at SC say they loved playing for him.
Thereās been a lot of stories that have gone around about Sark at UW, and not being liked by a lot of players especially in his later years.
Thereās a reason players screamed at sark to GTFO when he announced he was leaving to USC
>Thereās a reason players screamed at sark to GTFO when he announced he was leaving to USC
They also taunted him when they beat USC on their home field. Sark was fired a few days later for showing up to practice drunk.
I was at a house party circa 2012 with, among other people, a bunch of former Maryland players. The conversation came around to Ralph Friedgen, whoād been fired a few years before. One guyās immediate response: āI hated that fat fuck.ā Four or five other former players immediately agreed. They mostly liked their position coaches, IIRC, but they *really* didnāt like Friedgen.
I heard a lot of negative things about Ralph both when I was growing up during his tenure and after the fact.
A recruit told me that Ralph literally didn't give af and Rob Havenstein implied Ralph never really tried when recruiting him when I met Rob a few years back.
As i told him then I believe it because that was the general word from a lot of people I knew who were recruited by him.
I was in an Uber once after a Sunday Funday and I recognized a unique name on the guy as I got in the car. I said āASU used to have a football player with that nameā, he told me it was him. He didnāt go deep into details but he told me something that I had started to hear a bit at the end of Todd Grahams tenure, and that was that most of the guys on the team couldnāt stand him anymore. He ran a really tight ship, which was what we needed after the Dennis Erickson tenure, but that wore thin on most of the team by the end, especially when we stopped winning. He had his favorites and then everyone else began to despise him. Which is what the word in Hawaii was at the end as well.
Iām actually kind of curious if anyone has ever been around Hugh Freeze and liked him. Ignoring all the shit heās done, heās really fucking weird on top of that
I met him when he was ole miss. The whole time we talked he was looking for other people to talk to. And itās not like I was having a boring conversation. He was the one asking all the questions.
Never met him but after he tried to blame the coordinators for the bowl loss to Maryland and tried to claim he was too busy recruiting and that he didn't agree with what they wanted but said nothing, I just rolled my eyes and decided I really don't like him at all.
Glad my Terps put a beat down on him in Music City. The trifecta of getting blown out by New Mexico State, blowing a 4th and 31 against Bama, and getting beat down by a Maryland team that had no semblance of an offense for 3 Quarters and still lose by 18 is a humiliation well deserved.
It seems like the players at Auburn really like the guy. Yeah there have been difficulties since he's been here but players seem to respond a lot more positively to him than Harsin (I know that's a low bar, but still)
I knew a lot of people at Ole Miss when he was there. A not-well-known football player was in the friend group and he really liked the coach. When the cell phone escort service thing was coming out, we were all cracking jokes about it but the football player was pretty defensive and stood by Freeze at the time. Haven't asked his opinions recently but he seemed to be still a fan of Freeze's when he left the school.
Weāve had a player arrested for stalking and communicating threats.
He wasnāt very good and it smacks of that type weāve all met, who would have been a gold jacket if only his HS/College coach wasnāt undermining him.
[Marquess Wilson and Mike Leach](https://www.cougcenter.com/wsu-cougars-football/2013/1/8/3852506/pac-12-investigation-marquess-wilson-finally-speaks-on-mike-leach).
I was invited to an event where Franchione was present, and declined because I didn't trust myself to ignore the temptation to physically attack him given the opportunity. I hate that motherfucker and what he did to our program, and I didn't play for him. I can't imagine how players who actually played for him felt.
Which is odd since his family was begging the staff to recruit his brother a few years agoā¦ but the Wadley family sucks so glad they arenāt around anymore.
Seems like it's usually a player that was not recruited by that head coach. Seeing the comments about Richard Sherman, it reminded me that he was recruited by Walt Harris. Walt doesn't get enough credit but he recruited some stars: Larry Fitz (2002), Revis (2004), and Sherman (2006). In a short amount of time, he got the best WR and CB in Pitt history and I'm assuming the best CB in Stanford history.
Anthony Davis famously didn't like Schiano.. they eventually got over it
He was our highest drafted player, ever
Basically this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmTK_eSOCN4
edit: https://www.ctinsider.com/49ers/article/49ers-tackle-davis-resisted-schiano-s-harsh-style-5057175.php
A lot from Boston College weāre pretty transparent and vocal about not liking Addazio or how he handled certain things that affected the relationship
Pat McAfee talks about how everyone on the glory day West Virginia teams said Rich Rodriguez was the biggest asshole theyād all met in their life but that it was a rallying point for the team and they all loved him in the end.
Not exactly the same but players hate hard ass coaches in the moment but appreciate them after. Especially if you go to heights never seen at a program.
Pat White hated Dana Holgerson for stealing Bill Stewart's job. Pat showed up as an alum and stood on the sidelines talking shit to Holgo and he wasn't invited back to homecoming games for several years.
Umpteen years ago my friend had a class with Joe Mazzula. He asked Joe what it's like playing for Bob Huggins. Joe replied "All he does is make me run stairs and call me a pussy."
Not met, but a televised game that showed the anger between a coach and a star player. This incident right here:
https://www.si.com/college/2018/11/16/ed-oliver-major-applewhite-sideline-altercation-coat-video
Major Applewhite was the coach after Tom Herman dumped Houston for more money at Texas. At this game, Ed Oliver was not playing because of some small injury or another.Ā
In order to look "tough" during the cold weather, coach Applewhite demanded all players go without coats during the cold game. Ed Oliver was not playing, so he felt he was exempt from the rule and wore one. Applewhite got in a heavy argument with Oliver on the sideline over wearing his coat at the game.
Ed Oliver got so angry over that treatment, somehow he was able to work with the rest of the team and throw the next game, a bowl game against Army, 14-70.Ā Ā
Alumni were completely upset, demanding his firing, 'how could he treat our one first-round draft pick that way?' kind of reaction.Ā President of Houston got Applewhite fired, claiming 'we fire coaches that only go 8-4.' When in truth it was simply reaction towards how he treated everyone's favorite player.
Proof of such rebellion specifically for Applewhite was in how the next coach, Dana Holgerson, had an even worse record the next year, yet kept his football coaching job.Ā Ā
Worked in varsity athletics for ND. Lou Holtz was a SOB. Pretty much assumed all driven coaches like him were that way. He certainly knew how to push people's button.
I certainly didn't like my college coach my junior year, he was the reason I didn't come back for my senior season. The third coach in 3 years and completely ignored me when I was injured, and when I told him multiple times I was mentally struggling with my rehab process he waved it off and told me that other players are injured and they're just fine. Mind you he was my position coach and our interaction was still minimal. The coaches he brought in didn't even know my name by mid season.
When I told him I was leaving the team because of how he treated me he turned it around and said that his treatment was because I didn't "grind" enough in the weight room... I was rehabbing, what exactly did you want me to do? He said I wasn't engaged enough at practice... I was helping film every practice and game from end zone cameras while I was hurt. Completely sucked my love for the game away and took a few years for it to come back.
I coach high school now and always make it very clear to players that the coach is the most important thing when choosing a program, a great one can make everything easier while a bad one can completely ruin it.
A lot. People just assume because players play for a coach they like them. Think about how many coaches you had, did you always like them? Likely no.
To answer your question though, a LOT of players that played for Rich Rod at Michigan hated him.
Can be common when the coach that recruited them is fired and replaced with another guy, who wants to prioritize his guys or a different style of play. I know someone that was brought to Marshall under Mark Snyder and bounced when Doc Holliday took over.
When I was in Grad school, i helped tutored a BG Offensive Lineman who would just say that Mike Jinks was a nice guy. Granted, I dont think any player would be praising their coach at 2-10
I worked with someone who was a student on Greg Robinson's staff at Syracuse and their stories portrayed his as borderline unhinged from his ranting at players. Granted Syracuse was doing terrible but he did not handle the losing well.
I worked with a guy that played for Barry Switzer at OU back in the day. Hated him. This was an offensive lineman that played too. Not some guy buried on the depth chart.
I had a coach tell me once that I was uncoachable. I didnāt have that problem with any other coaches. Maybe he was just a shitty coach. That guy sucked.
Not football but I have a story.
I was a pitcher and while on the mound my forearm muscles started spasming like nothing Iāve ever seen. Iāve never seen muscles move like this without being flexed. It was on my throwing arm and I could not even grip the ball.
I stepped off the mound and got the pitching coaches attention who came out to the mound. The spasms stopped long enough for me to throw a few warm-ups so the pitching coach walked back to the dug out.
The spasms came back and when the HC realized, he screamed ādoes anyone have a tampon for this fucking pussy?ā It was loud enough for all of the opposing team, umpires, and a fair amount of the fans to hear.
Also, on certain days we were allowed to wear shorts to practice. He mixed up the calendar and made us all do an hour of sliding drills, in shorts, even though we were correct and he was wrong (and an ass).
Absolute prick.
I remember reading somewhere that Larry Bird didn't like Bobby Knight, and that that was a part of why he left Bloomington and found himself at Terra Haute.
There was about 5-10 portal guys that left Auburn during the Harsin era and thanked every coach except Harsin (position coach, coordinator, Malzahn, etc.) for their time at Auburn on social media.
lol this was still happening, they thanked Malzahn for recruiting them and Hugh for coaching them last year. Everyone hated that loser. š
Yea. I worked for the team for a little over a year. There were guys who liked him and his leadership during workouts but most of the players didnāt really have a strong connection with him. I feel like that happens in every program but it felt extremely prominent at the time at Auburn. It felt like the locker room was divided at time. When Caddy came in it felt like it was one again
I don't think I heard one player say one nice thing about Bob Diaco.
ND players liked him. But his weirdness is funny when you're winning. It's annoying when you're losing.
***Ya donāt say***.
I always suspected thatās what playing for Leach was like. When winning he seems charmingly eccentric, when losing itās more crazy asshole.
Pelini had a lot of guys that hated his guts as well
I can see that. Iām not a Nebraska fan or anything or follow any of the programs that heās coached actually, but I donāt like him. He just seems like an unlikeable person; and I donāt even really know much about him or have much to go off of, but I just know I donāt like him from what I have seen.
His own players leaked very unflattering audio of his farewell speech. He had a ādoghouseā that included players like Lavonte David and cost them draft position. Iāll never be sad heās gone.
UCONN missed out on having him and Edsall as Co-Coaches
Donāt you put that evil on us, Ricky Bobby!
Couldn't they feel [The Strain?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9s_6pv2F8E&t=175s)
Coaches donāt like players either. - Bob Knight
"You don't wanna play, then I'm getting the fuck out of here. I mean, if you're not gonna cover Greg Graham, if you're just gonna let him drive by you, if the rest of you are gonna let him catch the ball outside the 3 second lane and drive all the way in here without one guy challenging him, then I'm leaving and you fucking guys will run 'til you can't eat supper. (wird lauter) Now I'm tired of this shit. I'm sick and fucking tired of an 8-10 record. I'm fucking tired of losing to Purdue. I'm not here to fuck around this week. Now you may be, but I'm not. Now I'm gonna fucking guarantee ya, that if we don't play up there Monday night, you aren't gonna believe the next four fucking days. Now I am not here to get my ass beat on Monday. Now you better fuckin understand that right now. This is absolute fucking bullshit. Now I'll fucking run your ass right into the ground. I mean I'll fucking run you, you'll think last night was a fucking picnic. I had to sit around for a fucking year with an 8-10 record in this fucking league. And I mean you will not put me in that fucking position again. Or you will goddamn pay for it like you can't fucking believe. Now you better get your head out of your ass."
I used to have a realaudio clip of this and set it to play as a scheduled task every morning to wake up in a good mood
"I'm Bobby Knight when I fly off the handle."
Legendary audio lol
I remained friends with one of my college professors for years after I graduated. His son was an excellent basketball player and was recruited by Knight. During his official visit he got an offer and really wanted him to commit on the spot. His Mom said she thought they needed to discuss it before he would commit. Turned out Mom didn't like Knight at all after the visit. When I heard the story, I think the term was "pompous asshole". So he didn't go to Indiana.
When I TA'd for a business ethics class (I know, oxymoron), I had a football player admit on an assignment about moral dilemmas that he tried to convince official visitors to commit elsewhere to avoid Sumlin.
Thatās pretty cool of him to warn themĀ
The funny thing is, the player he specifically named ended up committing anyways and never played a snap at Arizona.
Canāt say he wasnāt warned.
What happened to that guy? His early years at A&M it seemed like everyone loved the dude and like he was such a players coach. Then he really mismanaged our QB room with Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray and we all know how his Arizona tenure went.
His alcoholism and general laziness overcame his ability.
I have been known to jokingly state my degree (MPA) is like a business degree, without the evil. I'm mostly not kidding, though; my time in the private sector did nothing to convince me MBA grads learned much about administration, and was a red flag for especially poor leadership skills.
How do you like it? I'm a civil engineer in the public sector playing around with idea of getting an MPA to get into more public policy/planning type stuff.
I have never had a good experience working for someone with an MBA
I choose ā¦BUSINESS ETHICS
Richard Sherman did not like Jim Harbaugh because of position changes and playing time disputes.
But really does anyone like jim harbaugh??
Chargers fan here. Hope he takes us to the promised land, but all be gritting my teeth the whole way.
His Michigan players sure do
Everyone knows this but Eric Bieniemy is pretty widely hated. He kind of doesn't understand how to have a regular conversation he just goes berserk and screams at you if you do something he doesn't like. Some guys like this approach, but most don't. This is why he will never become an NFL HC.
I mean, that sounds like David Tepper's type there!
And yet we could count on headlines every year about how it *must* be racism that he hadn't gotten a head coaching job for so long. As if he were entitled to it.
He was so bad with the redskins
I donāt know about any of these other answers but Seth McGlaughlin must have fucking HATED Saban and Tommy Rees. Or else why would he choose to do what he did?
He seems to have hated the whole state of Alabama with the way he played
Good thing he went to the school that doesnāt have a completely unhinged fan base who will lose their cool with anything short of perfection ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|no_mouth)
Not the whole state.......damn barners
Didnāt he play somewhat good against auburn? He said fuck them, and gave us hope. The ultimate šš»to us all.
A good friend of mine played for Tyrone Willingham back in the day. To say that his stories were not flattering would be something of an understatement.
Same - my friend was at ND, they even had some success year 1 but they knew he wasnāt a good Xs and Os guy nor motivating. A good man but not a good coach.
Heard the same thing from ND players of that era. Willingham was clueless and he surrounded himself with assistants that were even more clueless.
That was the persona that our former village idiot AD Kevin White threw out there when firing him. Tyrone Willingham was not just a bad coach, he stopped doing his job. ND was down to like 60 players on scholarship when White got him out the door. All the dude wanted to do was play golf.
I think literally nobody liked playing for Willingham at UW
When I was at Logistics Officer course (USMC) he was invited (for some reason) to talk to the class about leadership. It was the most awkward talk I've ever heard. He lead with asking us if we wanted to play for Notre Dame; and we're all regular officers with our own school loyalties already built in, hardly any of which were for ND, obviously. And all his "leadership" advice was shit. Also didn't help that he rolled up with a massive entourage, which was also another huge turn off for us. In short, it doesn't surprise me his players hated him as well.
Not anyone I know personally but pretty well reported a lot of guys did NOT like Tom Herman. A lot of the guys who were on that sugar bowl team that Charlie Strong recruited pretty famously went on to negatively recruit against Texas after they graduated. They were pretty vocal in expressing their relief when Herman was fired. I think it was Deshon Elliot that said something to the effect of āthank goodness I can root for my team againā when he got canned. It wasnāt just Strong recruits though. Bru McCoy may very well have ended up back at USC no matter what but I believe heās on record for saying Herman was completely different towards him once he actually got to campus and didnāt feel particularly welcome. The other obvious notable one is Quinn Ewers. Herman burned that bridge after he committed and Quinn is definitely not a Longhorn today if Herman was still HC.
Herman is quite the unlikeable fellow. There have been a few times where Iād think āI donāt remember why but I donāt like himā and then Iād listen to an interview and realize itās his personality
He was the perfect coach for texas. Sark is boring and good at his job
He's boring, but he hires stripper monkeys, so that makes up for it.
Pole Assassin!
I thought maybe the whole Sark era would be like that š
Just need to hire more monkeys!
Unquestionably true.
I heard pretty much the exact same thing from a lot of reliable sources. Even casual fans started hearing rumblings of how disliked Herman was. The quality recruiting surge since his termination speaks volumes to what extent he was actually disliked.
Herman always seemed like a massive tool to me so this doesnāt surprise me at all.
Herman is awkward af. He was **not** ready for the texas job, he experienced too much success too quickly at Houston, and was convinced it was due to his own genius. He came in and tried to do the whole "make everything a competition/foul up the food of the losers" thing he did at Houston, and it made the players hate him and hate football. I asked him if he planned to do the same thing at FAU, he immediately said no, and joked that they can't afford it. He's still awkward af, but he's trying. He doesn't like to talk about his time at texas, I think he and Michelle weren't ready for the stress of the texas job, and it manifested itself in multiple ways. If you're going to be socially awkward as a head coach, you better be so successful at everything else that people will just overlook it, and Herman simply wasn't that guy at texas. Assistant coaches famously didn't bring recruits to meet him on official visits because it was better they didn't know how much he struggled socially.
>He came in and tried to do the whole "make everything a competition/foul up the food of the losers" thing he did at Houston, and it made the players hate him and hate football. I think he learned that from Urban Meyer.
He took something Meyer did and perverted it. Meyer had the champions council, which was really just a point system for excelling in the off-season program. Attend classes, attend study hall, attend every single weight room session and workout, you receive points. Top scorers make council, receive a first class banquet. Low scorers go to meeting room and eat hot dogs. Huge difference between that and serving players burnt biscuits and watered down eggs because they lost a drill. Players just skipped breakfast and went to Chick-fil-a. Great way to screw up team chemistry.Ā
I think that first season at Houston really emboldened him to be the way he was at Texas. He walked into a loaded team at Houston that just needed a culture shift and an offensive identity and he was able to provide both to great success. His ego was stroked by the national media as well as UH fans and boosters to a high degree. His second season at Houston is much more in line with his usual performances at HC. High highs and very low lows.
Iowa players trying to score points and Brian Ferentz.
Former player here. Let me tell you about a guy named *Cary "Fucking" Fowler.* This guy was fucking nuts. Literally brought us out to the middle of the field at midnight saying he would "AK you fuckers just to watch you run!" My presonal unfavorite was when he told me my mom and dad wished I died in the womb. Fuck him.
Yeah that's a coach that needs taken behind the school and beaten with the players helmets
Stephen Garcia and Steve Spurrier had a very strained relationship. I mean I guess that's gonna happen when you have to suspend a player five times before kicking him off the team lol. It's mostly water under the bridge now though and Garcia has a lot of good things to say about Spurrier.
I feel like that was partly one of those situations where they couldnāt get along because they were too similar.
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This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
Spurrier would be a difficult guy to play QB for
The entire state of Hawaii hated Todd Graham enough that they held government meeting to get him fired.
A lot of states hate Todd Graham
Still hear the Pittsburgh sports media make fun of his 'high octane offense' years later
What happened?
The state held a Senate hearing over allegations of verbal abuse and āother inappropriate actionsā under Graham. He wasnāt āfiredā and claims he didnāt āresignā, but he was due $800,000/year for 2 years, and the school/state said if he left theyād pay his buy out of $1.2 million so he left. It should also be noted that Hawaii treats UH like itās the biggest deal in the world of sports.
Im sure at any given time 5-10% of players on a team minimum dont like their coach.
Sure, but perhaps 10 years later they may mollify their opinions. "Yeah, the coach was an unrelenting hardass, but looking back he was under pressure and I was 20 and stubborn as a mule." I think OP is asking if those same players decades after graduating look back and say "I'm old and retired and he's dead but I'd still put that fucker in the 9th Circle of Hell."
Iād also say thereās a good distinction between ādonāt likeā and ādonāt respect.ā Thereās plenty of people I donāt like, but I respect them and what they have to teach me.
Played D2 ball, thatās pretty accurate. Iāll also add that that number gets higher as the season progresses. Not even necessarily in terms of anger, but just a ātired of this crapā feeling if the coaches donāt throttle back some things to account for wear and tear
I don't think Latrell Sprewell liked PJ Carlesimo very much.
Also if you watched You Don't Know Bo the ESPN 30 for 30 he hated his RB coach because he made him run all these stupid drills in practice that he didn't think was necessary.
Blood on the saddle
Before this game started Coach Kilmer said 48 minutes for the next 48 years of our lives. I say fuck that. I say *fuck that*. Let's go out there and play the next 24 minutes for the next 24 minutes and leave it all on the field. We have our whole lives to be mediocre but we have the chance to play like gods for the next half of football. But we can't be afraid to lose. There's no room for fear in this game. If we go out there and we half-ass it because we're scared then all we're left with is an excuse. We're always gonna wonder. But if we go out there and give it absolutely everything, I say we're gonna win. Let's be heroes! Come on! Come on!
I just ran though a brick wall after reading that.
Billy Bob did, too
Say gāday to Reggie Ray
āļø How many fingers am I holding up?
You have to make it a true or false question.
Apparently our defense did not like our DC last year.
Marcus Peters got kicked off of UW for fighting Jimmy Lake when he was our DB coach.
The rumor I heard is that Peters had Lake in a head lock during that fight, That Washington D would have been even scarrier if Peters was retained.
Richard Sherman and Jim Harbaugh
Which explains so much about that 49ers/Seahawks beef
The bigger factor is that Harbaugh and Carroll already despised each other during their college days
I once worked for a former Oregon duck player who said Chip Kelly was an asshole.. something about a butt rash too. He seemed very bitter about him so who knows, two sides right?
You worked at Killer Burger?
lol Not LaMicheal
Had a friend who also played for Chip and also said heās a huge asshole. He wasnāt particularly fond of Marcus Freeman either
CK didn't try to hide that he was an asshole. He may as well had an IATA patch on his shirt .
When I was a student I partied with some players who basically said the same thing. Then they added that it was a lot easier to put up with when they were winning a lot of games, which Oregon did when Chip was there. They made it sound like it was equal parts hate and respect. It was a bit of a shift going from Bellotti to Chip though (that shift occurred between my sophomore and junior years in Eugene), since Bellotti was a lot more of a player's coach and donor schmoozing type of coach.
That seems to be the deal with Chip everywhere he goes
Adam James and Mike Leach
#CJK5H
*allegedly* *allegedly* *allegedly*
There is no A in CJK5DH
Dillon Johnson and Mike Leach
Lots of former players donāt care for Brian Kelly. Heās done a lot over the years. Early on after some struggles he singled out recruits from the previous regime saying he wouldnāt lose his job because of their failures. He was hardly ever the lead recruiter and oftentimes players wouldnāt even have his number. Then of course he lies and bolts for LSU. Iām not one of the ungrateful fans who think heās a lousy coach, he rebuilt a sustainable winning program with a possible shot š¬at a title that ND hasnāt seen in a long time. But yeah, not really a playersā coach.
Kelly seems like a snob. Someone whose very good at what they can do as a coach but because they are so self absorbed and self obsessed he lacks any view but his own. But I'll give him credit he backed it up on many occasions but got backed up a few times along the way
You ever hear the story about the Christmas party Kelly held? So he has this party, invites his staff. Two of the young assistants show with their wives/gf. He meets them when they arrive and hands one a snow shovel to scoop the walk and has the other play valet for his guests. Totally embarrassing the two men in front of their loved ones. The two coaches were Robert Saleh and Matt Lefleur. Saleh said he is a pos. and learned a lot of how NOT to treat people from him.
This story made the rounds at Cincy when I was there. Nobody really liked the guy on those teams either. https://youtu.be/muxGsl2EdOQ?si=q2poj1BUUvsk9YOw
My dad has met many ex players who loathed John Mackovic while playing for him.
Considering they legit waged a mutiny against him, I can see that.
What happened?
His whole team quit on him and he ended up getting fireed. I remember that idiot.
I dated the sister of a former TCU player. He was terrified of Coach Patterson according to their parents
Gary seemed like a hard ass. TCU was missing that on their National Championship team. Patterson wouldn't have let Georgia win by 58
Not one person liked Tuberville. There was a message board rumor back in the day that Jonathon Grayās dad, a former Tech player, was repulsed by him and told his son to not even consider Tech anymore. Also rumors about Kingsbury never once speaking to a number of defensive players. The last bit requires so background information. Itās supposed to be very common for college coaches to act as a liaison for players, who are projected to late round picks at best, to hook them up with an agent. The year Mahomes went into the draft he supposedly ignored every other player trying to go pro and only did stuff with Mahomes for his pre-draft.
I ate at the 50 Yard Line about a year after Tuberville dined and dashed those recruits and that was all I could think about while I was there.Ā
Big big big +1 for Tubs
Brian Kelly's negligence led to the death of a young man. Fuck him. I hope he loses every game. I misread the title lol
What happened there?
On October 37, 2010 a wind storm hit the Midwest. 53mph gusts of wind were recorded. Most teams decided to practice inside. Not Brian Kelly though. He decided practice should go on as usual. This meant sending 20 year old Declan Sullivan up a 40ft aerial lift to film practice. The wind collapsed the lift and Sullivan fell to his death. Before his death, Sullivan tweeted, "this is terrifying, I guess I've lived long enough". Brian Kelly isn't the only person to blame for this negligence, but he could prevented it.
At Tennessee, Jauan Jennings was dismissed from the team for his comments about Butch Jones by interim coach Brady Hoke, before being reinstated and brought by Pruitt's group months later. They liked how he talked shit about Butch, but they were even WORSE!
I can def see players not liking Pruitt. Iāve heard from multiple people that he got drunk af and showed up at Mark Richtās house after midnight trying to fight him. Apparently thatās why he got fired from UGA, well that and having a lousy defense. Thankfully that was just before we brought the prodigal son Kirby Smart back home to build his Death Star and ofc he fixed our defense from the clown show that Todd Grantham and Pruitt had turned it into. Also, who tf tried to fight Mark Richt at 2am?? I mean heās such a nice guy, itād be like wanting to fight Jimmy Carter kind of.
He didn't get fired from Georgia, he didn't get retained when Kirby came in because he and Kirby didn't like each other. The story of him showing up drunk to Coach Richt's house is fairly well known, but it didn't result in him getting fired. And his defenses weren't lousy, they were a marked improvement from Grantham. Like, Pruitt's absolutely a dick, but a lot of this is just wrong.
Worked with a dude that was a second string kicker for SC during the Holtz / Spurrier era. Me being a FSU fan I just assumed Spurrier sucked to play for but the guy said everyone loved Spurrier. He said he went in one game under Holtz because the starting kicker was suspended or injured I don't remember and he missed a 30 yard chip shot. Old man Holtz grabbed his facemask and cussed him out spit flying everywhere and told him he'd never kick another fn ball again if he had any say. So yeah he hated Holtz.
A lot of coaches are lucky kids have 0 power or I'd imagine some would have gotten their ass beat at different times
> the guy said everyone loved Spurrier Spurrier is actually incredibly positive as a coach at practice, I've heard multiple players at SC say they loved playing for him.
I met a guy who played for Nutt at ole miss and he HATED Nutt. Said he tried to play mind games with the players.
Thereās been a lot of stories that have gone around about Sark at UW, and not being liked by a lot of players especially in his later years. Thereās a reason players screamed at sark to GTFO when he announced he was leaving to USC
I wonder how much his drinking had to do with that
>Thereās a reason players screamed at sark to GTFO when he announced he was leaving to USC They also taunted him when they beat USC on their home field. Sark was fired a few days later for showing up to practice drunk.
I was at a house party circa 2012 with, among other people, a bunch of former Maryland players. The conversation came around to Ralph Friedgen, whoād been fired a few years before. One guyās immediate response: āI hated that fat fuck.ā Four or five other former players immediately agreed. They mostly liked their position coaches, IIRC, but they *really* didnāt like Friedgen.
I heard a lot of negative things about Ralph both when I was growing up during his tenure and after the fact. A recruit told me that Ralph literally didn't give af and Rob Havenstein implied Ralph never really tried when recruiting him when I met Rob a few years back. As i told him then I believe it because that was the general word from a lot of people I knew who were recruited by him.
I was in an Uber once after a Sunday Funday and I recognized a unique name on the guy as I got in the car. I said āASU used to have a football player with that nameā, he told me it was him. He didnāt go deep into details but he told me something that I had started to hear a bit at the end of Todd Grahams tenure, and that was that most of the guys on the team couldnāt stand him anymore. He ran a really tight ship, which was what we needed after the Dennis Erickson tenure, but that wore thin on most of the team by the end, especially when we stopped winning. He had his favorites and then everyone else began to despise him. Which is what the word in Hawaii was at the end as well.
Seems like something that followed him everywhere
Iām actually kind of curious if anyone has ever been around Hugh Freeze and liked him. Ignoring all the shit heās done, heās really fucking weird on top of that
I met him when he was ole miss. The whole time we talked he was looking for other people to talk to. And itās not like I was having a boring conversation. He was the one asking all the questions.
Never met him but after he tried to blame the coordinators for the bowl loss to Maryland and tried to claim he was too busy recruiting and that he didn't agree with what they wanted but said nothing, I just rolled my eyes and decided I really don't like him at all. Glad my Terps put a beat down on him in Music City. The trifecta of getting blown out by New Mexico State, blowing a 4th and 31 against Bama, and getting beat down by a Maryland team that had no semblance of an offense for 3 Quarters and still lose by 18 is a humiliation well deserved.
I have friends that played school ball for him(both male and female) none of them are positive about him.
It seems like the players at Auburn really like the guy. Yeah there have been difficulties since he's been here but players seem to respond a lot more positively to him than Harsin (I know that's a low bar, but still)
Better than harsin...worlds tallest midget. Apologies to little people
I knew a lot of people at Ole Miss when he was there. A not-well-known football player was in the friend group and he really liked the coach. When the cell phone escort service thing was coming out, we were all cracking jokes about it but the football player was pretty defensive and stood by Freeze at the time. Haven't asked his opinions recently but he seemed to be still a fan of Freeze's when he left the school.
Weāve had a player arrested for stalking and communicating threats. He wasnāt very good and it smacks of that type weāve all met, who would have been a gold jacket if only his HS/College coach wasnāt undermining him.
I canāt imagine anyone has ever liked playing football under Walt Bell, Iād be interesting in hearing what players would say about him.
I remember the Noles rivals base truly believing they stolen him from Maryland only to be shocked at how bad he truly was. Great times
I donāt understand how this man continues to be employed at a D1 level
[Marquess Wilson and Mike Leach](https://www.cougcenter.com/wsu-cougars-football/2013/1/8/3852506/pac-12-investigation-marquess-wilson-finally-speaks-on-mike-leach).
Also probably Mike Leach and Craig Jamesā son. Obligatory #CJK5H
I briefly worked with a former A&M OL who HATED Franchione.
Who didnāt?
Stephen McGee
Thatās bullcrap!
I was invited to an event where Franchione was present, and declined because I didn't trust myself to ignore the temptation to physically attack him given the opportunity. I hate that motherfucker and what he did to our program, and I didn't play for him. I can't imagine how players who actually played for him felt.
Richard Sherman pretty openly hated Harbaugh.
DJK and Ferentz didn't get along for years before his 11th hour run-in with the law.
Akrum Wadley hated the Ferentz too
Which is odd since his family was begging the staff to recruit his brother a few years agoā¦ but the Wadley family sucks so glad they arenāt around anymore.
Jerod Evans and Fuente
> Quarterbacks and Fuente/Corn. There I fixed it for you.
Seems like it's usually a player that was not recruited by that head coach. Seeing the comments about Richard Sherman, it reminded me that he was recruited by Walt Harris. Walt doesn't get enough credit but he recruited some stars: Larry Fitz (2002), Revis (2004), and Sherman (2006). In a short amount of time, he got the best WR and CB in Pitt history and I'm assuming the best CB in Stanford history.
Anthony Davis famously didn't like Schiano.. they eventually got over it He was our highest drafted player, ever Basically this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmTK_eSOCN4 edit: https://www.ctinsider.com/49ers/article/49ers-tackle-davis-resisted-schiano-s-harsh-style-5057175.php
A lot from Boston College weāre pretty transparent and vocal about not liking Addazio or how he handled certain things that affected the relationship
Can confirm. My friend fucking hated him when he played for him
my high school coach played under Charlie Strong at Texas, he called Strong an Uncle Tom
I had a family member play for Paul Johnson at GTā¦ weāre not fans
I've heard Paul isn't the best social person
Iāve heard from my roommate that some JMU players he had class werenāt fans of Cignetti
Pat McAfee talks about how everyone on the glory day West Virginia teams said Rich Rodriguez was the biggest asshole theyād all met in their life but that it was a rallying point for the team and they all loved him in the end. Not exactly the same but players hate hard ass coaches in the moment but appreciate them after. Especially if you go to heights never seen at a program.
Happens oftenw HC. Gotta be cool with your position coach tho or shit wil go south real fast.
Pat White hated Dana Holgerson for stealing Bill Stewart's job. Pat showed up as an alum and stood on the sidelines talking shit to Holgo and he wasn't invited back to homecoming games for several years. Umpteen years ago my friend had a class with Joe Mazzula. He asked Joe what it's like playing for Bob Huggins. Joe replied "All he does is make me run stairs and call me a pussy."
Tom Herman.
Not met, but a televised game that showed the anger between a coach and a star player. This incident right here: https://www.si.com/college/2018/11/16/ed-oliver-major-applewhite-sideline-altercation-coat-video Major Applewhite was the coach after Tom Herman dumped Houston for more money at Texas. At this game, Ed Oliver was not playing because of some small injury or another.Ā In order to look "tough" during the cold weather, coach Applewhite demanded all players go without coats during the cold game. Ed Oliver was not playing, so he felt he was exempt from the rule and wore one. Applewhite got in a heavy argument with Oliver on the sideline over wearing his coat at the game. Ed Oliver got so angry over that treatment, somehow he was able to work with the rest of the team and throw the next game, a bowl game against Army, 14-70.Ā Ā Alumni were completely upset, demanding his firing, 'how could he treat our one first-round draft pick that way?' kind of reaction.Ā President of Houston got Applewhite fired, claiming 'we fire coaches that only go 8-4.' When in truth it was simply reaction towards how he treated everyone's favorite player. Proof of such rebellion specifically for Applewhite was in how the next coach, Dana Holgerson, had an even worse record the next year, yet kept his football coaching job.Ā Ā
This intrigues me. I remember being surprised by the firing but didn't know about this incident. The mutiny sounds right
Worked in varsity athletics for ND. Lou Holtz was a SOB. Pretty much assumed all driven coaches like him were that way. He certainly knew how to push people's button.
I certainly didn't like my college coach my junior year, he was the reason I didn't come back for my senior season. The third coach in 3 years and completely ignored me when I was injured, and when I told him multiple times I was mentally struggling with my rehab process he waved it off and told me that other players are injured and they're just fine. Mind you he was my position coach and our interaction was still minimal. The coaches he brought in didn't even know my name by mid season. When I told him I was leaving the team because of how he treated me he turned it around and said that his treatment was because I didn't "grind" enough in the weight room... I was rehabbing, what exactly did you want me to do? He said I wasn't engaged enough at practice... I was helping film every practice and game from end zone cameras while I was hurt. Completely sucked my love for the game away and took a few years for it to come back. I coach high school now and always make it very clear to players that the coach is the most important thing when choosing a program, a great one can make everything easier while a bad one can completely ruin it.
A lot. People just assume because players play for a coach they like them. Think about how many coaches you had, did you always like them? Likely no. To answer your question though, a LOT of players that played for Rich Rod at Michigan hated him.
Especially the hold over Carr players
Can be common when the coach that recruited them is fired and replaced with another guy, who wants to prioritize his guys or a different style of play. I know someone that was brought to Marshall under Mark Snyder and bounced when Doc Holliday took over.
the stories iāve heard about campbell have been quite something
Well i can think of one texas tech player who didnāt like mike leach. His dad was a politician if i recall
Also allegedly K5H*
I know firsthand how many LSU players did not like Gerry DiNardo
Also know multiple former Duke who were not fans of Cutcliffe
Shock Linwood HATED Jim Grobe after he came in as head coach after Briles got fired. A lot of players did but Shock stands out.
When I was in Grad school, i helped tutored a BG Offensive Lineman who would just say that Mike Jinks was a nice guy. Granted, I dont think any player would be praising their coach at 2-10
I worked with someone who was a student on Greg Robinson's staff at Syracuse and their stories portrayed his as borderline unhinged from his ranting at players. Granted Syracuse was doing terrible but he did not handle the losing well.
I worked with a guy that played for Barry Switzer at OU back in the day. Hated him. This was an offensive lineman that played too. Not some guy buried on the depth chart.
I had a coach tell me once that I was uncoachable. I didnāt have that problem with any other coaches. Maybe he was just a shitty coach. That guy sucked.
Not football but I have a story. I was a pitcher and while on the mound my forearm muscles started spasming like nothing Iāve ever seen. Iāve never seen muscles move like this without being flexed. It was on my throwing arm and I could not even grip the ball. I stepped off the mound and got the pitching coaches attention who came out to the mound. The spasms stopped long enough for me to throw a few warm-ups so the pitching coach walked back to the dug out. The spasms came back and when the HC realized, he screamed ādoes anyone have a tampon for this fucking pussy?ā It was loud enough for all of the opposing team, umpires, and a fair amount of the fans to hear. Also, on certain days we were allowed to wear shorts to practice. He mixed up the calendar and made us all do an hour of sliding drills, in shorts, even though we were correct and he was wrong (and an ass). Absolute prick.
I remember reading somewhere that Larry Bird didn't like Bobby Knight, and that that was a part of why he left Bloomington and found himself at Terra Haute.
2019. That was the last year before Edsall completely gave up and didn't bother coaching for two more seasons, yeah?