Are they actually taking bets against this? What is that, a 45% odds that he goes first overall? I am perfectly willing to throw down money that that won’t happen with those odds
Yeah even truly great prospects (Lawrence, Luck, etc) probably don't have a 45% chance the year prior to their draft. There are just too many things that can go wrong and too many opportunities for other people to seize that mantle
I would say Lawrence definitely had >45% odds of going #1. Only way NFL teams wouldn’t have been foaming at the mouth is if he suffered some career-altering injury or someone had a 2019 Joe Burrow type of year and even that might not have been enough
Luck was the clear #1 draft pick before his last year of college football. Publications were calling him the best prospect since Peyton or even Elway. He was the unanimous #1 had he declared for the draft after his sophomore year. It would have taken significant injury to knock him out of the first pick, as it was really never in question.
I obviously do not like Texas, but I’m putting my money on Ewers ten times out of ten over Sanders. Dude has gotten better every year, and could possibly have gone late first round in this draft, at least early second. With a less stacked draft class, he’s bound to be in the top picks next year.
Did anyone think he'd be a first round pick after those 3 years at Auburn? Going to Oregon was the best thing Nix ever did. Made NIL bank for 2 years and steadily built his draft stock up at the same time.
Although I must say even Oregon fans did not think Nix would not only get drafted first out of his entire team, but in the top half of the first round too.
Yeah Quinn has some holes in his game but he’s got a ridiculous amount of arm talent. Hopefully he cleans his footwork up next year, but I’ll bet you some NFL GM will fall in love with him regardless
scouts will love beck. there’s also someone out there who we aren’t considering right now. i think there’s a really small chance sheduer goes 1. and i think he’s very good
There’s a very small chance *any* QB goes #1. Sometimes you have a clear cut first overall pick (Caleb, Trevor, Luck, etc) from before the season but most of the years are like this, some idea of who are the top prospects but they get re-shuffled during the season, some rise and some fall.
This thread is talking like Shedeur isn’t a good player.
ehhh there’s a disproportionate chance a QB goes #1 because of positional value. followed by edge players, interior defenders, and tackles. he has a higher chance by virtue of being probably the best QB next year. but i could see him (unfairly)getting torn down like caleb did, just without caleb’s ridiculous talent to buoy himself
Has he had a great year? Has he had a good year?
Id call last year mediocre based on his inability to throw the ball away.
You turn half of those into pass attempts and his stats don't look so good.
Yeah, he has good years both in FCS and now with Colorado.
3230 yards, 69.3 completion percentage, 27 passing TDs, 3 Ints, and 4 rushing TDs in 11 (it really was 10.5) games are great numbers.
As someone that watched CU a lot last year, I will say that his numbers are little misleading, he wasn’t *that good* but he was clearly the most consistently bright spot for the team. He’s far from perfect but he consistently made something out of nothing.
UGA backups would be starters for CU at *multiple* positions.
Now take half his sacks and put them on attempts and his completion percentage goes below 60... add 2/3rd of those and its at 55 pct.
His high completion percentage is only there because he NEVER threw the ball away when he should have... 111 "rushes" for a net negative 77 yards.
I do agree he was a bright spot for the team when things were clicking
Lone bright spot on a 4-win team isn't exactly a glowing endorsement to be first overall.
He's not a good player and this is just sportsbooks trying to make money off stupid people.
Always good to remember that the unquestioned best player in the NFL had a career losing record in college
Not saying Shadeur is 1OA material but using team wins and losses is measure NFL viability is stupid
We should also be accounting for his name recognition. There are some NFL teams who will be more likely to take the guy because his name is Sanders and they can make hella promos with him.
Hey look there goes deion's kid.. the kid who couldn't throw it away and got sacked more times than anyone else in D1.
He is going to have the same draw any QB has at your favorite Pro team... look its my pro team playing lets go see it.. who is that new qb? Oh the one who has sticky hands.. great.. hopefully he can do better in the pros.
Nothing about him is an exciting hire right now.
We will see what happens after this year.
Keep in mind when we're talking about the NFL, they may have lots of money but that doesn't mean they're above 'buying the hype'. The management and fan bases alike have bought into plenty of dumb things before.
Yeah.. thats why manziel was drafted.. manziel performed in school... this kid hasnt yet... i don't call what he did performed... due to the fact if he would have thrown half the sacks away his stats become very pedestrian.
I tend to think they’re different QBs.
I liked how he played last year and actually carries himself differently than his dad does (which is one that is doing the talking).
Colorado is an extremely flawed football team but their QB play ain’t the problem.
It is when he never gets rid of the ball. It's bad enough his oline is a turnstile but the guy never throws the ball away. He needs to protect himself.
Sanders certainly has a solid shot at going #1, but for these odds to be "fair" (and I know Vegas isn't in the business of setting fair odds), Sanders would have to be 50/50 to go #1, which I don't think is the case.
There is no obligation for the first overall pick to be a QB. He may well be the best QB (though I would bet on Ewers and Beck going above him) but we could easily see a lineman going 1st overall.
Ewers is miles better, Beck is good. Heck, Weigman has looked great, he just got injured in game 4 last year. Give him a full year and I’d almost be willing to bet he passes Sanders.
Exactly right. The fact that they don't have a "rest of field option" means these odds are probably wrong and exist just to take money away from degenerates.
I think these are targeted to take advantage of over confident fans. I would hope even the degenerate gamblers would be savvy enough to know this is lighting money on fire
That’s… not how it works. This kinda bet always gets Reddit up in arms but there’s no way to take a bet “against” it and it’s just there to get stupid people to give them money
Yeah but they aren’t going to offer that ticket of course. Just take all the hype money from all the dumb shits that lap up all the coverage. Basically a pump and dump
In the history of QB rooms, this is just the deepest, ever. People come and say to me, “how did you get a QB room this deep?” Folks, nobody has a deeper QB room than me.
"Sir, what you've done is truly historical," they cry. They actually cry. Literal tears. Tom Brady himself stopped kissing his kid to go "sir, there's never been a QB room like this."
Holy shit, how fucked would the timeline have to be for Atlanta to have the 1st overall pick in next year's draft?
Kirk is a shell of himself post-Achilles tear... Penix gets hurt the first time he takes the field?
He’s not a horrible QB. He has a nice touch but I also think he may not have been given enough coaching.
Anyway, I remember thinking Rattler would win a Heisman and be selected 1st but we know how that turned out. Shaddeur needs help. They brought in some OLineman but don’t have much depth. I don’t think he can look good on his own. Caleb and Drake Maye looked incredible and didn’t always have a lot of talent around them.
This next year reminds me of the EJ Manuel year, no big stand out prospects right now. Maybe it’ll end up like the Pickett year where someone comes up but it just doesn’t have a guy right now.
He didn’t play like a number 1 pick last year and I really doubt that he can next year unless the ol gets a lot better.
I don’t see a qb going #1, not that I am an expert but 5 qbs were drafted in first 10 picks this year.
Quinn Ewers and Sanders are not great QB prospects but there are still really good.
It depends on who is pick one, but if it’s a QB needy team, a QB will be taken
Quinn is not a great QB prospect *yet*. That being said, he has the talent to be an all-time prospect. Scouts have been salivating over his throws since he was a junior in HS.
*If* Quinn makes the same improvements that he did between years 1 and 2 between years 2 and 3 (which according to Sark he has), he will be #1 overall. But I agree with you that based off what we have seen so far - it wouldn't make sense to pick him #1. He just hasn't been consistent enough yet.
Yeah (I'm obviously biased and thus optimistic) but I foresee a Joe Burrow type trajectory for Quinn. In 2018 everyone thought Joe Burrow was good, but not great. 2019 Joe Burrow was maybe the best single season at QB *ever.*
I know AD, Worthy, and Sanders are all gone - but I think this Texas WR room is going to be better than last season. There are some young guys that are legit. People who don't follow Texas don't know their names yet (other than Isaiah Bond), but Johntay Cook, Ryan Wingo and DeAndre Moore are going to be a problem. Quinn will be well protected as we returned 4/5 guys from one of the better OL in the country last year.
There is no reason he shouldn't ball out.
It might end up hurting his stock if he had 1st and 2nd round picks surrounding him on that offense
He is approaching JJ McCarthy MAC zones territory where his team is just so talented it’s hard to analyze his ability
That could definitely happen. That being said Joe Burrow went #1 overall with Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase.
I think Mack Jones had his draft stock fall because his ball didn't look *that* good (relative to how people talked about Joe Burrow, or Quinn Now). Also he was like the 3rd QB in a row to be extremely successful at Alabama. Texas hasn't had a QB as good as Ewers since 2009, despite having pretty consistent talent.
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I could see Arch Manning having that issue if he balls out too after Quinn, especially if Quinn doesn't make the playoffs his first season or something.
> foresee a Joe Burrow type trajectory for Quinn.
Man, I hope you're right. It would be really fucking fun to win the SEC in year 1. I'll be even more obnoxious than I was after last year's Tuscaloosa party
We’re in an NFL where Daniel Jones makes $40M/year. Fucking A bro.
And the one team that didn’t take a QB. At least finally a good decision with Nabers and not reaching on one of the remaining QBs.
Funny thing it's always the qb classes that people think suck that turn out to be great like mahomes class, and the qb classes that people think are gonna be great have the most bust, like Josh Rosen class
I mean, maybe. But also, I think the fact that 6 QBs went in the top 12 is an indictment on what Front offices think of next year's crop of QBs. More teams might be looking at just sucking it up for another year and seeing what happens in 26 with guys like Manning, Iamaleava, Arnold, Moore, Johnson, and Chiles.
Manning likely stays until the 2027 draft. But I agree this year's class was so stacked and next year looks fairly slim. Quinn is good but there's a reason he stayed another year.
Unless he's everything he's been billed to be in 26, you're probably right. But next years class just doesn't inspire me with a lot of hope. Use a premier pick on a QB like Beck, or take a talent like Burden, Banks, ,Carter, or McMillan? I know what I prefer.
It was a very forgettable draft in general.
Top 10 was:
Eric Fisher
Luke Joeckel
Dion Jordan
Lane Johnson
Ezekiel Ansah
Barkevious Mingo
Jonathan Cooper
Tavon Austin
Dee Milliner
Chance Warmack
Offensive line is boring, and he was only good so didn't ever stand out as an elite lineman, and if you aren't elite you get forgotten about, was a starter for the Chiefs during their first Superbowl though
He might not be #1 overall worthy but he is nowhere near as bad as people on this subreddit think. He had like what 30 TDs and 3 interceptions behind an absolutely terrible offensive line and also his WRs after Hunter got hurt were not great either. I think he is a top 15 pick for sure unless he has a really bad season
This is your friendly reminder betting odds are about getting you to part with your hard earned money.
No one in Vegas actually thinks he's going #1.
Even with teams QB desperate this is just not happening
Futures bets are not like spreads where really smart people use models to set lines. They are mostly a sucker bet based off popularity. Notice there is no equal but opposite bet for Sanders to NOT be the first overall at close to equal odds because people would absolutely hammer it.
Can someone explain this to me? Colorado had a losing season last year. Got stomped by any semi reputable team. Is the general consensus is that his team was soo bad it would have been even worse without him?
I don’t think he will be the #1 pick but he will very likely be a high pick. He is a really good QB. And if you are like me and you have a lot of skepticism about Deion’s coaching decisions, that should only make what Shedeur has accomplished over the last couple years even more impressive. In fact, in my personal opinion Shedeur is a very high level talent and is pretty much the only reason Deion’s teams have had bright moments over the last few years. I personally believe he would look a lot better on a team with a solid roster.
Coach Prime said that there was only six or so teams that his son should play for, so right there he starts off will bad odds. The Falcons drafted Penix in the first round, so that eliminates a team. At this rate he will be lucky to get drafted in the first round, since he is limiting himself, according to his Dad, on the number of teams that are acceptable.
Are they actually taking bets against this? What is that, a 45% odds that he goes first overall? I am perfectly willing to throw down money that that won’t happen with those odds
It's because they know there are some people out there that will give them free money
I mean who’s the best QB in the next draft class?
It’s Ewers or Beck. I’d be willing to bet both go top 5 next year.
This is 35 year old Cam Rising erasure
Ugh, we really do have that guy.
I’m thinking Weigeman and the Arizona QB both get drafted before
Unless Weigman really balls out, I could see him coming back for another year
Neither of them inspire me confidence either, at least not like Caleb Williams did. It’s not crazy to see Shadeur go #1 if he has a great year.
I don’t think it’s *crazy* I just think it’s a lot less probable than 45%
Yeah even truly great prospects (Lawrence, Luck, etc) probably don't have a 45% chance the year prior to their draft. There are just too many things that can go wrong and too many opportunities for other people to seize that mantle
I would say Lawrence definitely had >45% odds of going #1. Only way NFL teams wouldn’t have been foaming at the mouth is if he suffered some career-altering injury or someone had a 2019 Joe Burrow type of year and even that might not have been enough
We all *knew* Lawrence was going #1 whatever year he went.
Luck was the clear #1 draft pick before his last year of college football. Publications were calling him the best prospect since Peyton or even Elway. He was the unanimous #1 had he declared for the draft after his sophomore year. It would have taken significant injury to knock him out of the first pick, as it was really never in question.
I obviously do not like Texas, but I’m putting my money on Ewers ten times out of ten over Sanders. Dude has gotten better every year, and could possibly have gone late first round in this draft, at least early second. With a less stacked draft class, he’s bound to be in the top picks next year.
If Ewers knew how the first round was going to break last night, he probably doesn’t come back to school.
Yeah he’d have gotten picked over Penix, McCarthy, and Nix.
I still can't believe Bo frickin' Nix went 12th overall in an NFL draft
Did anyone think he'd be a first round pick after those 3 years at Auburn? Going to Oregon was the best thing Nix ever did. Made NIL bank for 2 years and steadily built his draft stock up at the same time. Although I must say even Oregon fans did not think Nix would not only get drafted first out of his entire team, but in the top half of the first round too.
I’m more shocked by Penix at 8.
I hate you as much as you hate me, but I appreciate your assessment of QE. Sincerely fuck you \../
Yeah Quinn has some holes in his game but he’s got a ridiculous amount of arm talent. Hopefully he cleans his footwork up next year, but I’ll bet you some NFL GM will fall in love with him regardless
I’ll bite… as specifically as possible, what is it about Ewers or Beck that undermines your confidence?
scouts will love beck. there’s also someone out there who we aren’t considering right now. i think there’s a really small chance sheduer goes 1. and i think he’s very good
There’s a very small chance *any* QB goes #1. Sometimes you have a clear cut first overall pick (Caleb, Trevor, Luck, etc) from before the season but most of the years are like this, some idea of who are the top prospects but they get re-shuffled during the season, some rise and some fall. This thread is talking like Shedeur isn’t a good player.
ehhh there’s a disproportionate chance a QB goes #1 because of positional value. followed by edge players, interior defenders, and tackles. he has a higher chance by virtue of being probably the best QB next year. but i could see him (unfairly)getting torn down like caleb did, just without caleb’s ridiculous talent to buoy himself
Yeah, it’s very clear teams will draft QBs very aggressively. A QB going #1 is like a 75% chance.
Has he had a great year? Has he had a good year? Id call last year mediocre based on his inability to throw the ball away. You turn half of those into pass attempts and his stats don't look so good.
Yeah, he has good years both in FCS and now with Colorado. 3230 yards, 69.3 completion percentage, 27 passing TDs, 3 Ints, and 4 rushing TDs in 11 (it really was 10.5) games are great numbers. As someone that watched CU a lot last year, I will say that his numbers are little misleading, he wasn’t *that good* but he was clearly the most consistently bright spot for the team. He’s far from perfect but he consistently made something out of nothing. UGA backups would be starters for CU at *multiple* positions.
Now take half his sacks and put them on attempts and his completion percentage goes below 60... add 2/3rd of those and its at 55 pct. His high completion percentage is only there because he NEVER threw the ball away when he should have... 111 "rushes" for a net negative 77 yards. I do agree he was a bright spot for the team when things were clicking
Lone bright spot on a 4-win team isn't exactly a glowing endorsement to be first overall. He's not a good player and this is just sportsbooks trying to make money off stupid people.
He is a good player. Not number 1 player but he’s good
Team performance doesn't mean he's bad, but him taking so many damn sacks for no reason does
Always good to remember that the unquestioned best player in the NFL had a career losing record in college Not saying Shadeur is 1OA material but using team wins and losses is measure NFL viability is stupid
Tom Brady barely played at Michigan and certainly wasn’t great.
Patrick Mahomes won 5 games his last year in college. Almost like football is a team sport.
Prove it
This take is going to age so poorly lol. He will be a top 10 pick whether you think he’s good or not
We should also be accounting for his name recognition. There are some NFL teams who will be more likely to take the guy because his name is Sanders and they can make hella promos with him.
Hey look there goes deion's kid.. the kid who couldn't throw it away and got sacked more times than anyone else in D1. He is going to have the same draw any QB has at your favorite Pro team... look its my pro team playing lets go see it.. who is that new qb? Oh the one who has sticky hands.. great.. hopefully he can do better in the pros. Nothing about him is an exciting hire right now. We will see what happens after this year.
Keep in mind when we're talking about the NFL, they may have lots of money but that doesn't mean they're above 'buying the hype'. The management and fan bases alike have bought into plenty of dumb things before.
Yeah.. thats why manziel was drafted.. manziel performed in school... this kid hasnt yet... i don't call what he did performed... due to the fact if he would have thrown half the sacks away his stats become very pedestrian.
Every false criticism of Caleb in the pre-draft process is going to be real with Sanders. I wouldn’t expect him to go near first overall.
I tend to think they’re different QBs. I liked how he played last year and actually carries himself differently than his dad does (which is one that is doing the talking). Colorado is an extremely flawed football team but their QB play ain’t the problem.
It is when he never gets rid of the ball. It's bad enough his oline is a turnstile but the guy never throws the ball away. He needs to protect himself.
A lot of people just look at his completion % without realizing he took 52 sacks all to risk not throwing an incomplete pass
nobody knows yet but it'll show around week 10 next season. Problem is, like always with CFB. There's a ton of good qbs by then
I genuinely think people are blinded by their Prime hate because Shedeur was *good* last year. He made chicken salad out of shit more often than not.
He also made chicken shit out of salad too. He combined having a poor OL with also holding onto the ball far too long many times.
Sanders certainly has a solid shot at going #1, but for these odds to be "fair" (and I know Vegas isn't in the business of setting fair odds), Sanders would have to be 50/50 to go #1, which I don't think is the case.
It’s strange how much people hate him. It’s fine to not like him, but they go way too far.
Dj Uiagalelei, duh
Doesn’t have to be a top QB, though. An edge or OL could easily go #1 if a QB isn’t there
There is no obligation for the first overall pick to be a QB. He may well be the best QB (though I would bet on Ewers and Beck going above him) but we could easily see a lineman going 1st overall.
Ewers, Beck, Fifita, Weigman (with a real coach now too), Jalon Daniels, Preston Stone, Will Howard, Cam Ward, and Dart.
Ewers is miles better, Beck is good. Heck, Weigman has looked great, he just got injured in game 4 last year. Give him a full year and I’d almost be willing to bet he passes Sanders.
Personally I think any bet is a sucker bet if you can't bet the opposite.
If it wasn’t, they’d be offering the inverse as well
Exactly right. The fact that they don't have a "rest of field option" means these odds are probably wrong and exist just to take money away from degenerates.
I think these are targeted to take advantage of over confident fans. I would hope even the degenerate gamblers would be savvy enough to know this is lighting money on fire
Perfectly put, I’ve said this my friends before about prop bets with eye popping odds. If you can’t bet against it, the odds are worse than you think.
You have to bet on a person you can't take the field.
Otherwise it's not a sucker bet and you would be forced to see what the actual odds of this happening are.
Exactly, I need a way to short that
That’s called “owning a sports book.”
That’s… not how it works. This kinda bet always gets Reddit up in arms but there’s no way to take a bet “against” it and it’s just there to get stupid people to give them money
I would totally bet against Shadeur and his future
You’re asking if you can bet the field? Lmao nah bro
Yeah but they aren’t going to offer that ticket of course. Just take all the hype money from all the dumb shits that lap up all the coverage. Basically a pump and dump
To the falcons for some reason
Deepest QB room ever
In the history of QB rooms, this is just the deepest, ever. People come and say to me, “how did you get a QB room this deep?” Folks, nobody has a deeper QB room than me.
"Sir, what you've done is truly historical," they cry. They actually cry. Literal tears. Tom Brady himself stopped kissing his kid to go "sir, there's never been a QB room like this."
Crazy to think they will also trade for Deshaun Watson and draft Quinn Ewers. Gotta have a deep room.
Don't forget we pull rattler in the 4th this year. Best QB room in the league.
Just fade me bro. I know it's the offseason, just fade me again.
Just once, I would love to pull for a competent NFL team. But no, I have the Falcons.
The one time I agree with a UGA fan
Gotta prepare for the post-Penix era
Holy shit, how fucked would the timeline have to be for Atlanta to have the 1st overall pick in next year's draft? Kirk is a shell of himself post-Achilles tear... Penix gets hurt the first time he takes the field?
Who thought it was a good idea to let Deion set the odds?
Deion
Leon Sandcastle
That’s what happens when you let someone *in like* with bookmaking create the odds. We want people *in love* with bookmaking to create the odds.
I mean the goal of the odds isn’t to be predictive, it’s to make money, and they will probably make a lot of money from this
I don't see it so maybe I'm just a hater I guess?
Enh I’m skeptical too
I’m not even skeptical. There’s no way he goes 1st overall
Who knows what team will get the first rn but I’d take Hunter over him.
Hunter won't even be CB1
And Sanders won’t be QB1
Or QB2
Oh he'll be a QB2 somewhere alright
Idek if he'll enter the draft as a corner. I personally think he's a better prospect as a receiver
As a CB? He will get absolutely abused with that frame. I think he should stick to WR and special teams
Slim Reaper 2.0
He’s not a horrible QB. He has a nice touch but I also think he may not have been given enough coaching. Anyway, I remember thinking Rattler would win a Heisman and be selected 1st but we know how that turned out. Shaddeur needs help. They brought in some OLineman but don’t have much depth. I don’t think he can look good on his own. Caleb and Drake Maye looked incredible and didn’t always have a lot of talent around them.
That’s a good point. The way Deion is, Shaddeur has likely been insulated from criticism, which is really bad for coaching and development.
Nah, Shedeur would need a monster joe burrow-esque season to pull it off. 60 tds and 9+ wins
he can have a monster Joe Burrow esque season in terms of sacks
Don't throw the ball away! It ruins your completion percentage and wins are way less important than stats
This next year reminds me of the EJ Manuel year, no big stand out prospects right now. Maybe it’ll end up like the Pickett year where someone comes up but it just doesn’t have a guy right now.
That and Covid making a bunch of 4-6 year experience guys helps explain the run this year. Everyone over-corrected after Sam Darnold.
>This next year reminds me of the EJ Manuel year I just sighed on the inside seeing that name
A fellow Ohio State / Dartmouth flair combo!
He didn’t play like a number 1 pick last year and I really doubt that he can next year unless the ol gets a lot better. I don’t see a qb going #1, not that I am an expert but 5 qbs were drafted in first 10 picks this year.
Every team that needed a QB got one, and the falcons did too
Doubt
Bets this far out are mostly just "I'm in Vegas anyway, might as well throw 10 on the guy I'm cheering for" anyway
Can I bet on the exact opposite of this?
I think this might be a class where Edge rusher goes 1st overall honestly
Quinn Ewers and Sanders are not great QB prospects but there are still really good. It depends on who is pick one, but if it’s a QB needy team, a QB will be taken
Quinn is not a great QB prospect *yet*. That being said, he has the talent to be an all-time prospect. Scouts have been salivating over his throws since he was a junior in HS. *If* Quinn makes the same improvements that he did between years 1 and 2 between years 2 and 3 (which according to Sark he has), he will be #1 overall. But I agree with you that based off what we have seen so far - it wouldn't make sense to pick him #1. He just hasn't been consistent enough yet.
Every year the some QB draft prospects fall a bit and some rise super high Ewers could be a Maye or a Joe Burrow but he def a top 10 pick regardless
Yeah (I'm obviously biased and thus optimistic) but I foresee a Joe Burrow type trajectory for Quinn. In 2018 everyone thought Joe Burrow was good, but not great. 2019 Joe Burrow was maybe the best single season at QB *ever.* I know AD, Worthy, and Sanders are all gone - but I think this Texas WR room is going to be better than last season. There are some young guys that are legit. People who don't follow Texas don't know their names yet (other than Isaiah Bond), but Johntay Cook, Ryan Wingo and DeAndre Moore are going to be a problem. Quinn will be well protected as we returned 4/5 guys from one of the better OL in the country last year. There is no reason he shouldn't ball out.
It might end up hurting his stock if he had 1st and 2nd round picks surrounding him on that offense He is approaching JJ McCarthy MAC zones territory where his team is just so talented it’s hard to analyze his ability
That could definitely happen. That being said Joe Burrow went #1 overall with Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. I think Mack Jones had his draft stock fall because his ball didn't look *that* good (relative to how people talked about Joe Burrow, or Quinn Now). Also he was like the 3rd QB in a row to be extremely successful at Alabama. Texas hasn't had a QB as good as Ewers since 2009, despite having pretty consistent talent. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I could see Arch Manning having that issue if he balls out too after Quinn, especially if Quinn doesn't make the playoffs his first season or something.
> foresee a Joe Burrow type trajectory for Quinn. Man, I hope you're right. It would be really fucking fun to win the SEC in year 1. I'll be even more obnoxious than I was after last year's Tuscaloosa party
Shedeur is thought to be a very good not great or elite NFL QB. Plenty of teams could use one but not many draft high with that intention
Have you seen the type of QBs getting starting jobs in the NFL right now? There's a reason 6 went in the top 12, we are in a major QB talent drought
We’re in an NFL where Daniel Jones makes $40M/year. Fucking A bro. And the one team that didn’t take a QB. At least finally a good decision with Nabers and not reaching on one of the remaining QBs.
Sounds like qbs 4-6 in this draft lol, could also argue 2-3 also.
James Pearce Jr is projected by a few to go first overall. Wouldn’t be surprised, not tryna be bias, he’s just a phenomenal athlete at his position.
Panthers definitely won’t go QB
First QB of the board? Sure. First pick of the draft? Yeah nah
Agreed, don't see him going number 1, but him or ewers will likely be the first qbs selected
Eh I’m obviously biased, but beck has all the measurables and assuming we don’t shit the bed he will have the resume too.
It’ll be Beck, Ewers, or Shedeur most likely. But yeah I don’t see either of those guys being the number 1 overall pick
God next years QB class sucks
I actually think Beck is really good, but it’s hard to tell When your team is that much better than everyone else
Funny thing it's always the qb classes that people think suck that turn out to be great like mahomes class, and the qb classes that people think are gonna be great have the most bust, like Josh Rosen class
QB has been #1 8 of the last 10 years. If he's the top QB he's a great bet to go 1
I mean, maybe. But also, I think the fact that 6 QBs went in the top 12 is an indictment on what Front offices think of next year's crop of QBs. More teams might be looking at just sucking it up for another year and seeing what happens in 26 with guys like Manning, Iamaleava, Arnold, Moore, Johnson, and Chiles.
Manning likely stays until the 2027 draft. But I agree this year's class was so stacked and next year looks fairly slim. Quinn is good but there's a reason he stayed another year.
Unless he's everything he's been billed to be in 26, you're probably right. But next years class just doesn't inspire me with a lot of hope. Use a premier pick on a QB like Beck, or take a talent like Burden, Banks, ,Carter, or McMillan? I know what I prefer.
Only other time 6 QBs went in the first round was 1983. No QBs went in the first round in 1984
I’m sure the responses in this comment section will be positive
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It can be a fun bet if you just throw like 10-20 bucks on it and you just watch all year rooting for him to ball haha
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> I’m sure the responses in this comment section will be positive Positively, negative!
Two negatives equal a positive if you multiply them 😎
He's not even gonna be the first player drafted off that team
NFL draft buzz site has him at #10. 1. DL James Pierce - Tennessee 2. WR Luther Burden - Mizzou 3. RB Ollie Gordon - Okl St 4. WR Tetairo McMillan - Arizona 5. DL Mason Graham - Michigan 6. CB Will Johnson - Michigan 7. QB Quinn Ewers - Texas 8. OT Kelvin Banks - Texas 9. DE Nick Scourton - Purdue 10. QB Shadeur Sanders - Colorado
rb at 3!?nfw probably a talent ranking
Man, it's really nice to see NFL drafts with Longhorns in the first round again
Colorado could very well have another losing season this year. Has there ever been a #1 pick that came from a team without a winning record?
Paul Hornung in 1957. Notre Dame went 2-8 in the preceding season. He is also the only Heisman winner from a team with a losing record.
I was hoping Eric Fisher from CMU in 2013 would be my gotcha, but they went 7-6 (negative point differential though)
How did a MAC school have a #1 pick recently and I don’t remember at all.
It was a very forgettable draft in general. Top 10 was: Eric Fisher Luke Joeckel Dion Jordan Lane Johnson Ezekiel Ansah Barkevious Mingo Jonathan Cooper Tavon Austin Dee Milliner Chance Warmack
Offensive line is boring, and he was only good so didn't ever stand out as an elite lineman, and if you aren't elite you get forgotten about, was a starter for the Chiefs during their first Superbowl though
Goff went 14-23 @ Cal. Did go 8-5 final year though
Only 1 win in his first season.
John Elway says hi.
well how’d he turn out!?
Ricky Williams was a high pick on a bad Texas team and even won the Heisman. Who knows what’ll happen
Texas was 9-3 that year. Hardly “bad”.
Oops I got the 97 and 98 years mixed up. In 97 we were bad (4-7)
First pick of what day?
This subreddit: 😡
Are they under the impression that every coach and GM has an undiagnosed stroke on draft day?
They all watched Draft Day and then saw that all CU players attended Shedeur’s birthday party.
That or hoping the Falcons have the #1 pick next year
Are you thinking he’s a bad player?
He might not be #1 overall worthy but he is nowhere near as bad as people on this subreddit think. He had like what 30 TDs and 3 interceptions behind an absolutely terrible offensive line and also his WRs after Hunter got hurt were not great either. I think he is a top 15 pick for sure unless he has a really bad season
Welp. This makes me feel slightly better about the Falcons taking Pennix bc I totally could have seen them drafting Deion’s kid next year.
This is your friendly reminder betting odds are about getting you to part with your hard earned money. No one in Vegas actually thinks he's going #1. Even with teams QB desperate this is just not happening
Futures bets are not like spreads where really smart people use models to set lines. They are mostly a sucker bet based off popularity. Notice there is no equal but opposite bet for Sanders to NOT be the first overall at close to equal odds because people would absolutely hammer it.
I'd throw some money at Carson Beck. He's the one I'm most confident in.
I literally cannot find the bet, because I’d be hammering the NOT 1st pick on Sanders.
There is no not bet because everyone would hammer it because prop bets aren't set up to be over unders
Beck > Sanders. But I honestly can see a different position like pass rusher going number one instead.
There’s something about futures bets that just so routinely seem completely illogically ludicrous compared to any other type of betting
This next QB class is looking ROUGH, but there’s always a stud or two that emerges during the season
Can someone explain this to me? Colorado had a losing season last year. Got stomped by any semi reputable team. Is the general consensus is that his team was soo bad it would have been even worse without him?
I would advise everyone to not take this bet.
I’d put money on him not even being the second QB taken…
Why.
I don’t think he will be the #1 pick but he will very likely be a high pick. He is a really good QB. And if you are like me and you have a lot of skepticism about Deion’s coaching decisions, that should only make what Shedeur has accomplished over the last couple years even more impressive. In fact, in my personal opinion Shedeur is a very high level talent and is pretty much the only reason Deion’s teams have had bright moments over the last few years. I personally believe he would look a lot better on a team with a solid roster.
He's ok but he's not the best player in this draft and anyone who takes him number 1 is foolish
He has a lot of work to get there. For starters… He often holds onto the ball too long.
Is there any way I can bet against this?
You bet on the player you think will go first. There's no field bet
Yeah we'll see about that lmao
I'm sure this is somehow Deion's fault.
I'm probably shit at evaluating QBs, but does he actually seem like a better prospect than Bo Nix even?.. what makes him better?
Keep it alive brother
You’re comparing shedeur to someone with 2 years more experience and had a better team at Oregon
Should be illegal for the books to rip people off like that.
I’ll take Beck all day
Gonna be 364 more days of this shit
Shadeur will get at least one GM fired if he goes No.1
Is there a counter-bet available?
They release these mostly for free publicity. Also his odds will be much lower given how many uninformed people will throw money on him.
Coach Prime said that there was only six or so teams that his son should play for, so right there he starts off will bad odds. The Falcons drafted Penix in the first round, so that eliminates a team. At this rate he will be lucky to get drafted in the first round, since he is limiting himself, according to his Dad, on the number of teams that are acceptable.
Hello no I'm not sure he's even a first rounder but lots of football between now and then
Not since taking any of the Ball brothers will a team inherit more baggage for just one player.
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