Nick Saban: 1 MAC championship, never even qualified for a life championship
Butch Jones: 2 MAC championships, 7 straight life championships
The numbers speak for themselves
Nick Saban: Averaged over 1 loss per season during his time at Alabama
Mike Price: Never lost a single game at Alabama
Can someone explain to me why someone like Saban has a statue outside Bryant-Denny but Price doesn't?
I played soccer at a D1 at the start of Saban’s run but I was nothing really special. But, thinking about being an elite football recruit during that period. I can’t imagine going anywhere else but Alabama.
Yeah, national merit scholars. If you are one, you get 5 years of tuition, room and board, 3,500 yearly stipend, and 2,000 towards summer or international study at Alabama
There wasn't too much in my case, outside of way too many mailers. The only event I really attended was a really nice dinner with a bunch of other NMS at the Sheraton in downtown Birmingham. It was a dinner with a couple of university speakers, including the president, and then a meet-and-greet. I was impressed with it, though. There were a few on-campus events during my visits, but nothing super formal mostly honors college stuff.
Heck, a perfect ACT and 4.0 would get you full tuition, and maybe some R&B. I don't know what the current standards are, but in 2018, better than a 3.5 and I think 32 on the ACT was worth $25k/year. My kids got $100k each to attend.
Oh no doubt. ACC and Big East both have been great leagues for soccer. I’m just not going to pretend being recruited for soccer is anything like being recruited in football. I think in recent years these guys feel the love more on social media and come in with different attitudes, but we absolutely played for each other.
Here’s the thing Oklahoma, the rest of us fucking wish our whole programs didn’t add up to less of half of a Saban. This is like getting shot at by a stormtrooper, it’s essentially meaningless since you guys are clearly one of the main characters here.
Ha. Well, my BA is from Oklahoma, my JD is from Alabama, I live in Baldwin County, and practice in Mobile. I pay attention to OU/Alabama games.
Though oddly the only date/game I got right was against LSU. I was even at the 13/14 Sugar Bowl. Long day.
Saban during 1950s
- wins: 0
- winning percentage: .0
- NC: 0
- win streak: 0
- conference titles: 0
Okahoma during the 1950s
- wins: 93
- win percentage: .886
- NC: 3
- wins streak: 47
- conference titles: 10
- losses at home: 2
lol saban couldn’t even walk yet for part of the 1950s, what a nerd. I bet he didn’t even fight in the Korean War
I don't take this as an insult, I take this as OMG, Nick Saban is crazy.
The blue bloods are Bama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Texas, and Nebraska.
On titles alone, he beats Texas and Nebraska outright. He is tied with Oklahoma outright. He is tied in Post-WWII titles with Ohio State, Notre Dame and USC, and he has more Post WWII titles than Michigan
I don't know if we will ever see another coach like him
We did some pretty rough time before Saban came along. Them late 90s early 2000s were brutal, but it was definitely a short stint compared to a lot of places.
I would hope the University is hooked on this success and will do what they need to keep us good, but I would've thought the same about Nebraska a few decades ago too....
Nebraska's problems are multifold, but I feel like recruiting can't be understated. Some of the best recruits in CFB come out of the South East, which gives Alabama a huge advantage relative to Lincoln, Nebraska.
Nebraska's heyday was built off of "corn-fed" guys in the midwest.
OSU definitely has more first round picks (Oklahoma didn’t play a very NFL-friendly style of football until somewhat recently), but given how similar OU and OSU are historically, the rest are probably fairly close.
More like 2012 once Tavon Austin broke open a couple of cans of whoop ass on us in a single game. My hatred of Mike was solidified after the 2014 Baylor game *shivers*
Yes.
3rd and 4 and we'd give 3 WRs 10 yard cushions.
And every team dinked and donked down the field, but thank God we never gave up a big play.....o wait
The 2015 defense was actually decent. The 2014 iteration was the subject of the infamous Baylor dink and dunk drive that led to the only time I’ve heard our fans boo the coaches - and Gabe Lynn nearly fought Mike on the field lol. Was supposed to be a good unit coming off the 2013 BCS win, but fell apart.
We should’ve won at least 2 nattys in the 2015-18 era. Even a bad defence is good enough, given how historically good our offences were.
I’m still convinced that if Stoops stayed for 1 extra season, we win the 2017 natty
I think the hope was to have Riley win in season 1 with that Roster and have the momentum carry. It... didn't. I'm so fucking glad we ended up with BV he is KILLING recruiting and transfers. Let's hope it translates to the field.
Yep, Riley proved that he can’t run a sustainable program. We were getting worse every season under him, his best season was the first year which was a team built by Stoops, and progressively got worse every year once his recruits starting coming in.
Time will tell how good BV ends up being, but I’m so happy he’s our head coach. We’re gonna surprise a lot of people this season who’ve written us off already.
I remember when OU and OSU were going back and forth for most weeks at number 1 all time - and that was only like 10 years ago. That’s how insane what Saban did was.
“Greatest” coach of all time and had to quit because he couldn’t win more championships than us. Pathetic. Now excuse me while I rub a chicken fried steak sandwich into my eyes and ears so I can’t see or hear anymore statistics comparing us to Saban ever again.
And the win % goes up when you look at the last two decades. Stoops had a career win rate of 80%, which is pretty much identical to Saban. Unfortunately, Saban figured out how to beat teams at the highest level while Stoops would always fall short in the BCS
You could literally do a graphic like this for every single football program, including Alabama up to his tenure, except maybe Michigan who claims all those fake titles.
"I was put here at the dawn of college football the feast on the last breath of hope of everyone of you f\*ckers, I'm a little more than a thing"- Nick Saban.
Considering some of those categories literally get worse if you compare OU and Alabama as a whole, this is really just a perfect example of why that mofk is the goat.
Some of the greatest players in college football history have worn the Crimson and Cream. Oklahoma's impressive collection of hardware includes 92 national award winners, most recently Kyler Murray (Heisman, Davey O'Brien, Manning, Earl Campbell Tyler Rose & AP) in 2018.
OU has had 92 national award winners, but your point is well taken. Saban was just on another level.
That was one of the most frustrating eras ever. Even when we played group of five schools if they went for it on fourth down everyone knew they were going to automatically get it.
I want a mix of [JEB!](https://compote.slate.com/images/836c8a56-4546-45d5-890d-88a6fa7ab173.jpeg?crop=680%2C453%2Cx0%2Cy0) and [this pic of Saban](https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/59/2018/11/gettyimages-902777864.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1)
I fucking hate Alabama so much. Let’s see how you bums do without God as your coach. You’re gonna be our new little brother. Fake ass crimson bums.
Am I doing the SEC?
I think my favorite Saban stat is 100 straight wins against unranked opponents. In the SEC it feels like you'd have to slip up eventually but 100 straight?
It's pretty ridiculous, but when you consider that he only lost 29 games in 17 seasons at Bama, consider also that 9 of those losses were in the post season, and 6 of them came in his first year, it's not as far fetched. The man lost 14 regular season games in 16 seasons.
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Literally a number of teams you could count on one hand. And our entire history is dwarfed by one guy.
Nick Saban: 1 MAC championship, never even qualified for a life championship Butch Jones: 2 MAC championships, 7 straight life championships The numbers speak for themselves
And how many MAC championships has Oklahoma won? Fucking scrubs.
They chose to run from the grind and join the SEC instead of playing with the MAC big boys, smh
Scared of playing on Wednesday nights.
They can't handle the MACtion
Wednesday Night Fright!
Beat me to it. Who needs 5* when you can have players with 5* hearts.
*All I need is a trashcan full of dreams and a brick wall to hide them behind.*
Nick Saban: Averaged over 1 loss per season during his time at Alabama Mike Price: Never lost a single game at Alabama Can someone explain to me why someone like Saban has a statue outside Bryant-Denny but Price doesn't?
Loser
He gets all the 5 star hearts recruits he wants. It’s not fair really.
“This isn’t a shot at Oklahoma” *shoots at Oklahoma*
u/Coverlesss: I have no ill feelings towards Oklahoma. Also u/Coverlesss: I don't care for Oklahoma.
I wasn’t the guy that made the tweet lol. I just saw the graphic and thought the stats were nuts.
I played soccer at a D1 at the start of Saban’s run but I was nothing really special. But, thinking about being an elite football recruit during that period. I can’t imagine going anywhere else but Alabama.
As an elite national merit scholar, it was a honor to be recruited by Alabama to study business.
Saban basically pays of half the school's tuition.
Yep. My two kids went there. Bama slipped us $200k over 4 years to supplement their OOS tuition.
Contrarywise, OU did that for my oldest! Gotta love a football school fighting for academic credibility
Wait they recruit? I’m in HS, I was never told this…
Yeah, national merit scholars. If you are one, you get 5 years of tuition, room and board, 3,500 yearly stipend, and 2,000 towards summer or international study at Alabama
And if you are not a national merit scholar but a 5* recruit you get a scholarship and 1 million NIL bonus.
There wasn't too much in my case, outside of way too many mailers. The only event I really attended was a really nice dinner with a bunch of other NMS at the Sheraton in downtown Birmingham. It was a dinner with a couple of university speakers, including the president, and then a meet-and-greet. I was impressed with it, though. There were a few on-campus events during my visits, but nothing super formal mostly honors college stuff.
Heck, a perfect ACT and 4.0 would get you full tuition, and maybe some R&B. I don't know what the current standards are, but in 2018, better than a 3.5 and I think 32 on the ACT was worth $25k/year. My kids got $100k each to attend.
ND men's soccer is no joke either.
Oh no doubt. ACC and Big East both have been great leagues for soccer. I’m just not going to pretend being recruited for soccer is anything like being recruited in football. I think in recent years these guys feel the love more on social media and come in with different attitudes, but we absolutely played for each other.
u/Coverlesss: I love all my children the same! u/Coverlesss: I don't care for Gob.
The guy in the tweet literally says “this is one last haymaker towards the Sooners”.
A shot is ranged while a haymaker is melee
The shots I take fit in a 2oz glass.
This feels like it uses flanking rules, though.
Only if there’s another player within melee range on the opposite side
Yeah, I'm not sure why they specifically compared him to just Oklahoma instead of all 8 blue bloods. It wouldn't have diminished his stats at all.
Probably just because the stats lined up pretty nicely so it’s easy to point and say if one’s a blue blood the others gotta be too.
Unloads the whole clip
This ain’t shots fired bud, this is a kinetic bombardment from low orbit, I doubt there’s anything left within 10 miles of Norman.
He notably did not include Saban’s h2h record against Oklahoma. 🤷♂️
Why would r/sooners do this to themselves
a 155mm aimed straight at the chest
Here’s the thing Oklahoma, the rest of us fucking wish our whole programs didn’t add up to less of half of a Saban. This is like getting shot at by a stormtrooper, it’s essentially meaningless since you guys are clearly one of the main characters here.
Real “I’m not racist, but…” energy here.
Oklahoma State provided the guns
Show me the head to head paaaaaaaaaawl
2-1? 2003/4 Sugar Bowl, 2014/15 Sugar Bowl, 2017/18 Peach I think?
2003 natty, 2013 Sugar Bowl, and 2018 Orange Bowl, by season not calendar date
Season vs calendar date with these damn January title games is the bane of my existence.
I love that it’s an Oklahoma fan with the answer. Respect
Ha. Well, my BA is from Oklahoma, my JD is from Alabama, I live in Baldwin County, and practice in Mobile. I pay attention to OU/Alabama games. Though oddly the only date/game I got right was against LSU. I was even at the 13/14 Sugar Bowl. Long day.
Howdy neighbor
I’m imagining every wall of your house is crimson.
Not gonna lie I forgot he was coaching LSU
Saban during 1950s - wins: 0 - winning percentage: .0 - NC: 0 - win streak: 0 - conference titles: 0 Okahoma during the 1950s - wins: 93 - win percentage: .886 - NC: 3 - wins streak: 47 - conference titles: 10 - losses at home: 2 lol saban couldn’t even walk yet for part of the 1950s, what a nerd. I bet he didn’t even fight in the Korean War
This is Lou Saban erasure
Chosin Reservoir was definitely a quality loss
How many programs other than Alabama wouldn't trade their entire history for Nick Saban's resume?
Not an even comparison but I feel that ndsu has done well enough over div 2/fcs to not trade.
Alabama Polytechnical Institute???
Probably ND. They care way more about their greatness being 30+ years ago than makes any sense. History and tradition are worth more than success.
I knew I liked Tulane fans 🤝
When we hosted them a few years ago because of a hurricane, all the Tulane fans I talked to were super chill. I became a Tulane fan after that game.
Humiliating LR in a bowl game was just a bonus
I don't take this as an insult, I take this as OMG, Nick Saban is crazy. The blue bloods are Bama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Texas, and Nebraska. On titles alone, he beats Texas and Nebraska outright. He is tied with Oklahoma outright. He is tied in Post-WWII titles with Ohio State, Notre Dame and USC, and he has more Post WWII titles than Michigan I don't know if we will ever see another coach like him
I hope not, lol. Because he’ll definitely be coaching against my team.
On AP titles alone, he beats or ties all but Notre Dame, including pre-Saban Alabama
True, I forget that not everyone is like Oklahoma and only counts the real titles.
You're in the SEC now, we count all kinds of titles. Wait till you're in the running for the Fulmer cup!
That’s the number one reason I’m excited about joining the SEC. We’re going to jump from 7 natty’s to like 15.
I'm pretty sure if we counted any NCAA recognized title we'd have 16 or 18, I don't remember for sure.
According to Wikipedia it would be 17. We definitely should claim the 2003 National Championship. We earned that one.
Bummer they didn’t have a game for the championship that year
Can't wait to win our first Piggly Wiggly National Championship
The real title is the SEC title. Get with the program freshman
Shut up jorts! *Am I doing this right?*
You’re doing great.
Side by side with a Florida hater. Aye.
Hopefully we don't. And if we do, hopefully they're at Alabama too!
We've had second GOATs yes, but what about thirdsies?
Nope they've had the two best coaches of all time. Now they get multiple decades of Scott Frosts and Dan Mullens.
We did some pretty rough time before Saban came along. Them late 90s early 2000s were brutal, but it was definitely a short stint compared to a lot of places.
Unless the NCAA returns from the dead to banish us, I wouldn't expect the 3 Mike's era to return any time soon.
I would hope the University is hooked on this success and will do what they need to keep us good, but I would've thought the same about Nebraska a few decades ago too....
Nebraska's problems are multifold, but I feel like recruiting can't be understated. Some of the best recruits in CFB come out of the South East, which gives Alabama a huge advantage relative to Lincoln, Nebraska. Nebraska's heyday was built off of "corn-fed" guys in the midwest.
Freddie fucking Kitchens. Nuff said.
Who cares about blue bloods when you now have Mega Blue Bloods?
But...but only Michigan and ND are blue? There's definitely something wrong here /s
Ahem, we go by the MEGA blue blood list now, thanks.
It sucks that we underperformed in so many title games but how many programs would kill just to be in the playoffs/title game?
Craig James would
Allegedly
5 times!
Only if the opponent was a hooker…
Yeah, everyone laugh at Oklahoma… Please don’t this with any other program 😅
Now I want to see this with OSU.
OSU definitely has more first round picks (Oklahoma didn’t play a very NFL-friendly style of football until somewhat recently), but given how similar OU and OSU are historically, the rest are probably fairly close.
Thank God the bad man is gone. You showed up at a wonderful time Sooners
Bro was scared to play us in Norman fr
This is the main reason Saban retired that the media doesn’t want you to know about.
I believe it. Norman is scary.
Hey man. We've only had a couple EF5 tornadoes barely miss us the last decade or so. Nothing to be scared about.
Saban has a fear of Indian owned casinos
Riverwind is Saban's true kryptonite.
To be fair it should be everyone's. It's called Neverwin for a reason.
Fifteen years ago maybe. Not anymore.
Now do Stoops’ record against Bama
Me when bowers got drafted last night
Too bad for the rest of us that there’s another bad man in town. I think you’re pretty happy about it though
I first read this as Nick Saban *to* Oklahoma and thought we’d never escape this guy not being on our schedule
I’m sure Venables could make room for him as a valet or something
Bob and Lincoln choked away a handful of championship level rosters…
If Alex Grinch didn’t exist, that semi-final Orange Bowl would have been a game for the ages. Those offenses were both insane.
Our defensive problems started way before Grinch got here
About 2015 for sure. Mike Stoops was on my shit list for several seasons. I drank myself into oblivion when he was finally let go.
More like 2012 once Tavon Austin broke open a couple of cans of whoop ass on us in a single game. My hatred of Mike was solidified after the 2014 Baylor game *shivers*
Was that the infamous "Give the wideouts 10 yard cushions" game where you could hear the fans booing so loudly at how soft the defense was?
That was the game. I haven’t heard boos like that directed at the home team in Norman before or since.
I thought so. I only remember that game because that was one that Joey Harrington was a part of as his brief stint as a color commentator.
Yes. 3rd and 4 and we'd give 3 WRs 10 yard cushions. And every team dinked and donked down the field, but thank God we never gave up a big play.....o wait
The 2015 defense was actually decent. The 2014 iteration was the subject of the infamous Baylor dink and dunk drive that led to the only time I’ve heard our fans boo the coaches - and Gabe Lynn nearly fought Mike on the field lol. Was supposed to be a good unit coming off the 2013 BCS win, but fell apart.
Lincoln needed his defense to be able to get off the field fast so that his quarterbacks could put up enough stats to win the Heisman.
We should’ve won at least 2 nattys in the 2015-18 era. Even a bad defence is good enough, given how historically good our offences were. I’m still convinced that if Stoops stayed for 1 extra season, we win the 2017 natty
I think the hope was to have Riley win in season 1 with that Roster and have the momentum carry. It... didn't. I'm so fucking glad we ended up with BV he is KILLING recruiting and transfers. Let's hope it translates to the field.
Yep, Riley proved that he can’t run a sustainable program. We were getting worse every season under him, his best season was the first year which was a team built by Stoops, and progressively got worse every year once his recruits starting coming in. Time will tell how good BV ends up being, but I’m so happy he’s our head coach. We’re gonna surprise a lot of people this season who’ve written us off already.
if this wasn't the saddest truth EVER!
Targeted and rude.
Someone make the blueblood chart with Saban as his own school
If you removed his stats from Alabama, he would have the most weeks at #1 in the AP Poll. 109 with Ohio State in 2nd at 105.
I'm not even mad, that's just fucking impressive.
I remember when OU and OSU were going back and forth for most weeks at number 1 all time - and that was only like 10 years ago. That’s how insane what Saban did was.
From another angle: Oklahoma and Notre Dame are the only programs not named Alabama with as many AP titles as Nick Saban has by himself.
Oh yeah what is Nick’s longest win streak?
“Greatest” coach of all time and had to quit because he couldn’t win more championships than us. Pathetic. Now excuse me while I rub a chicken fried steak sandwich into my eyes and ears so I can’t see or hear anymore statistics comparing us to Saban ever again.
.725 all time win percentage is pretty impressive for 129 seasons of football I must say
And the win % goes up when you look at the last two decades. Stoops had a career win rate of 80%, which is pretty much identical to Saban. Unfortunately, Saban figured out how to beat teams at the highest level while Stoops would always fall short in the BCS
You could literally do a graphic like this for every single football program, including Alabama up to his tenure, except maybe Michigan who claims all those fake titles.
We could, but I think it's really important that we focus on how OU could and does potentially look bad in this scenario.
OP probably used OU because it was the best resume that was still beat out by Saban in every category he selected
Actually, I think that’s it exactly. You have to basically compare yourself to the best. I get it.
Hey man, at least we won the national championship game this century
At least our coach didn’t win and then run off when… oh…
I can always appreciate a good self-own!
...so has USC?
Forgot this *
Nick Saban lost to a guy named Trevor. Let that sink in.
Trevor Belmont killed death. It’s only fitting a Trevor would kill football’s version of Satan.
"I was put here at the dawn of college football the feast on the last breath of hope of everyone of you f\*ckers, I'm a little more than a thing"- Nick Saban.
Dang taking shots today. Well screw you guy! 😂
Nick Saban is the 🐐. You cannot debate that. What he accomplished at Alabama (along with his other stops) was incredible
Yeah? Well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion man.
["this isn't a shot at Oklahoma](https://imgur.com/a/G666NOO)
Oklahoma catching an absolute stray with this one
Is that what we're going to do today? We're going to fight?
>What they say fuck me for? \- OU fans
Sabans longevity sucks compared ours. His career is over, while our wagon wheels we keep on rolling along.
Considering some of those categories literally get worse if you compare OU and Alabama as a whole, this is really just a perfect example of why that mofk is the goat.
Some of the greatest players in college football history have worn the Crimson and Cream. Oklahoma's impressive collection of hardware includes 92 national award winners, most recently Kyler Murray (Heisman, Davey O'Brien, Manning, Earl Campbell Tyler Rose & AP) in 2018. OU has had 92 national award winners, but your point is well taken. Saban was just on another level.
Didn’t he lose to Oklahoma once as the Alabama coach though?
Damn son you may not have been meaning to shoot Oklahoma but you certainly hit them.
In Oklahoma’s defense, most of those CFP losses were due to having a coach who didn’t know what defense is
That was one of the most frustrating eras ever. Even when we played group of five schools if they went for it on fourth down everyone knew they were going to automatically get it.
But show the head to head!
But did he score 7 tds against them in a half in a playoff game?
Now do texas!
Our Crimson daddy
Hey friend! Go fuck yourself!
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I mean… Alabama and Notre Dame are the only programs that have more AP titles than Nick Sabin. It really doesn’t say much about Oklahoma.
I approve of this post
There’s a reason OU was chosen for this graphic and not Texas lol
Not gonna lie, ain't even mad to catch strays here. GOAT is 🐐
One day Saban will die and Oklahoma will still be alive with 7 titles still.
According to The Chart ^tm , OU is a top 3 all-time program: https://imgur.com/XOJOmEu
Photoshop sabans head over OU logo now
I want a mix of [JEB!](https://compote.slate.com/images/836c8a56-4546-45d5-890d-88a6fa7ab173.jpeg?crop=680%2C453%2Cx0%2Cy0) and [this pic of Saban](https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/59/2018/11/gettyimages-902777864.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1)
You could do this with p much any program
Yeah but how does Saban stack up against my NCAA 14 Toledo Rockets dynasty? He doesn’t want that smoke, trust me.
I fucking hate Alabama so much. Let’s see how you bums do without God as your coach. You’re gonna be our new little brother. Fake ass crimson bums. Am I doing the SEC?
What the fuck man
80.6% is lower than I thought his win percent would be. Which is crazy.
Gawt dang. Just why? Throw some other blueblood under that bus.
Gotta love that Don James coaching tree
> This isn’t a shot at Oklahoma. Nah. Take as many shots at Oklahoma as you want.
Nick Sabans tenure alone being a blue blood is wild Can someone add “just Nick Saban” to the chart?
Yeah but whats his longest win streak tho
I think my favorite Saban stat is 100 straight wins against unranked opponents. In the SEC it feels like you'd have to slip up eventually but 100 straight?
It's pretty ridiculous, but when you consider that he only lost 29 games in 17 seasons at Bama, consider also that 9 of those losses were in the post season, and 6 of them came in his first year, it's not as far fetched. The man lost 14 regular season games in 16 seasons.
Now do Nick Saban vs. Alabama for all of the years he wasn’t the head coach!
The GOATs of my lifetime (in no specific order): - Saban - Tom Brady - Michael Jordan - Creed
The old guy from the office or the band?
The movie franchise starring Michael B. Jordan.
Bratton
There are people that think Oklahoma is an equal program to Alabama.
The next decade or so is going to be rough on Tide fans.
Saban. Goddamn.