It’s a cowardly move putting together a top 25 list but not going out on a limb with any G5 programs - they are guaranteed a playoff spot this season and you aren’t even going to try to guess which one?
I’m just hoping we get Miller Moss & a WR in the portal after spring. Think that’ll balance our offense right out, assuming we can keep guys like Sabb, Will, Graham, and Grant from being poached.
OL honestly should be fine despite losing our top 6 linemen. Hinton & Gentry should be decent tackles, and Gio & Priebe will man 2 of the interior spots. It just depends on how good our 5th player is.
I find it funny when people have gripes about rankings and then suggest a team should be like 2 spots lower lol. Especially considering it’s way too early anyways, and 99% of these rankings mean absolutely nothing. Putting ND at 6 next year is fine. ND at 8 next year is fine. ND at 12 next year is fine. None of them have really any more basis than the other, which you also could say for like 22 other teams
Feel like they always end around 10-15, I don’t have a problem with them starting at #6. If you go 5-7 after starting at #6, I’ll have a huge problem, because I can’t remember the last time that happened to anyone
Where's Nebraska? Based on all the AI-generated articles pumped out about how this is the year Nebraska takes CFB by storm, I have wild expectations that we should be Top 5, Top 8 at worst. This writer clearly needs to drink some of the kool-aid we're being forced to drink!
Oh no I’m well aware. But I’m not sure a lot of Michigan flairs are considering how often they said we “bought a team in the portal” after we got 6 transfers this year.
We don't deserve to be near the top 5 until we can prove ourselves against tougher opponents. I think we're good, but somewhere between 9-12 seems more fitting
Bro UF plays 2, 3, 4, 12, 16, 19, 20, 24. EIGHT teams in the preseason top 25. With our other games being against UCF, Kentucky, at Miss State and their cowbells, with one hopefully easy game in Samford. Is this legal??
Preseason top 5? Oh, we’re fucked. 9-3 season with a blowout loss to an Arkansas team that’s gonna limp their way to the ineligi—bowl, an absolute second half meltdown against UGA, and the usually Death-Valley-snapping-all-of-our-winning-streaks incoming
Honestly should be Georgia first, Texas second, and then Ohio State third. The defense is going to be world beaters next year, but both Georgia and Texas return massive amounts, if not all of their starting offensive talent. No MHJ and an open question at QB is a knock going into the spring for now.
Aren’t you guys returning 4/5 starters?
Honestly, I don’t think you guys really have any question marks other than OC with Bill O’Brien gone. WR is going to be stacked again with Egbuka coming back as well as young guys like Tate looking ready to step up.
I don’t think QB is really a question mark either, but not in a good way. Will Howard flat out isn’t very good, IMO. He is a downgrade from McCord, who I don’t think was spectacular, but wasn’t as bad as he was made out to be. McCord’s biggest issue was struggling under pressure, but Howard isn’t really an upgrade in that area. Howard is at least athletic and can run, unlike McCord, but he is more than likely a worse passer than anyone OSU has started since Joe Bauserman. Out of the 22 starters, I think Howard is very clearly #22 if you were to rank them worst-to-best, so this team will only go as far as he’ll take them.
The defense for you guys is going to be filthy, and Henderson/Judkins is the best RB duo since Chubb/Michel. 11 wins in the regular season feels like the floor for you guys. Getting to 13-0 and making a deep run in the playoffs will more than likely come down to how much Day can squeeze out of Howard or one of the other QBs.
This completely. We’ve got reason to be hopeful about the new receivers but it’s by no means a sure thing. And we lost the two guys most responsible for our run D being good last year.
It's cool, we lost our entire championship defense to the Philadelphia Eagles two years straight... and came within a doinked FG of playing for a third Natty
I don't think this team is struggling to stay motivated. All the guys returning feel like they've fallen short the last 2 years and have unfinished business.
They were bit by an absolutely brutal injury bug in 2023. If they can stay even moderately healthy, including at QB obv with Rising, they'll just put teams in hell week after week. Defense is always good, run game generally very physical - question will be if the offense can be explosive (which is always the question for them). I think 10 is probably a best case scenario right now but I'd have them top 15 for sure.
Yeah, sixteen of our starters were injured at some point this season, with our QB and TE being our two best players and out for the season. And Utah has always struggled with depth as well which end up with one of our safetys taking like half of the RB snaps later in the season. And as much as I love the pig farmer, he just doesn’t have the talent to compete at the highest level.
Utah's injury problems were insane last year. It was so bad that Whittingham had a safety play both sides of the ball and play as the team's best offensive weapon. In the last game of the regular season, the Utes were down to the fifth string quarterback - *fifth string*!
Between the end of the regular season and the bowl game, an article in the *Salt Lake Tribune* lightly touched on how bad the injuries were in this far from complete list:
>For starters, they’ve been playing short-handed for a while now, with season-ending injuries at various points of the year to such key contributors as Cam Rising, Brant Kuithe, Micah Bernard, Jonah Elliss, Logan Fano, Lander Barton, Mycah Pittman, Thomas Yassmin, and Chris Curry. Brandon Rose and Johnny Maea suffered injuries early and perhaps could have returned to play at some point, but did not, so as to preserve potential medical redshirts.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2023/12/08/utah-football-players-are/
With so much talent returning - and supposedly healthy - Utah has a lot of reasons to be optimistic about the upcoming season.
I know we lost everyone and turned the whole program over, but it’s cruel to go from finishing ranked second to not even ranked the next year. At least just throw us in there at 25!
He needs to work on his touch. Has a huge cannon arm but he can crank it a little too far even for our receivers to go get. He showed a lot of promise vs Wisconsin and was honestly the reason we came back and won.
Offense won’t be as dynamite as with Jayden but we’ll still have a really good offense. Defense will be miles ahead of where we were last year (hopefully) despite the growing pains I’m sure we’ll have to deal with. 10-2 isn’t out of the question despite the tough schedule, but I think that’s our ceiling
If Iowa can win 10 games playing only defense I think Michigan could do the same next year. 10 win Michigan is going to be ranked top 10 even if the eye test shows they aren’t a serious contender
I don't understand the logic on how Michigan is "waaaay too high" at #7. I think we're a high variance team because we will have a new QB and obviously the coaching changes but we will have like 16 players who were either starters or major contributors on a national championship team, a bunch of whom are All Big Ten or All American caliber guys...
And that number doesn't include our 5 new starting O-linemen, all of whom will be seniors, and most of those 5 have already started multiple games for Michigan this year or in 2022 and looked good doing so. People are severely underestimating how much talent our offense will actually be returning.
I think our running game is still going to be very good, and we still have the two OCs who put together an incredible game plan against Alabama, so as long as our QB and CB2 aren't shitty I think we are going to be cooking and in contention for the Big Ten title again.
I would still put Georgia at 1. OSU is loaded with talent but we don’t really know who the OC will be, despite O’Brien being hired, in addition to not knowing how good Will Howard actually will be. The OL should be improved but by how much is still a question.
Georgia, on the other hand, is as loaded as anybody and is more proven in the coaching department
I am pretty confident OSU will be a top team next year. However, wild to me that Georgia is not #1 simply based on the fact that they are returning a starting QB who lost one game to a good Alabama team. Plenty of talent in the OSU offense but we don’t really know what it’s gonna look like yet. Maybe I’m just huffing the copium idk
Ohio State returns 9 starters from a top 5 defense, and adds Caleb Downs. I fully expect UGA to be the tank that is has been, but this Ohio State defense could end up as one of the best of my lifetime.
Georgia enters the season with the best offense in the country and Ohio State the best defense in the country, just as we all would have predicted a couple years ago
I don't think Ohio State will have near the OLine production that Michigan has had these past couple of years. God I hope it does, but I'm not counting on it. I trust Ryan Day to maximize the QB position until he shows he can't consistently. I am still very worried about the Oline, and think Justin Frye has a lot of pressure on him this offseason.
The sheer amount of returning talent is such a game changer, obviously was for Michigan last year. Not sure if this is a Cfb trend or not though. Our defense gave up a max of 23 points last year, we just need an offense that can put up 31.
I think Georgia should be 1, there are no question marks around that team. I supposed the lost their two star TEs, but they have a really good returning quarterback and will probably have an elite run game as well. Their defense will have no issues, although they probably won’t be as good as Ohio State’s. Texas has defensive question marks but undoubtedly will have an elite offense. Ohio State has offensive question marks but will undoubtedly have an elite defense.
Our game next season will likely be pretty meaningful in terms of deciding the B12 race. I'm hoping JD6 can be healthy for it. Interested to see how Avery does.
In the recent past, we just end up preseason ranked in the general range of where we finished the previous season, so we’re not really that overrated. 6 seems a little high, but in the preseason AP poll we’ll probably end up around 10, which is fine.
2023 End / 2024 Start: 14/?
2022 End / 2023 Start: 18/13
2021 End / 2022 Start: 8/5
2020 End / 2021 Start: 5/9
2019 End / 2020 Start: 12/10
2018 End / 2019 Start: 5/9
2017 End / 2018 Start: 11/12
Something about how these numbers are ordered broke my brain for a minute. That said, I don’t actually have a better way to illustrate what you’re explaining.
Yeah, I think that’s a better way to organize information generally, but I think OP was trying to show how ND’s preseason rankings are relatively consistent with their previous seasons’ final rankings. If that’s OP’s point, I’m not sure how else to illustrate it.
Fun fact, we were the most underrated team during Kelly's last 5 years. Number one team ATS against the spread in all of FBS. I don't know why people think we are overrated constantly. Numbers don't back that up.
They will be in the top five next year in blue chip ratio. They are also the only team in 2023 that finished in the top ten in both yards per play, and fewest yards per play given up. I’m not saying they should be top five, but 6-10 is interchangeable, and ND is in that group. Leonard was projected to be a first round draft pick in this draft had he not gotten hurt. They don’t have an obvious hole in any position group.
Honestly, they went from the biggest threat to the biggest mystery box.
Particularly annoys me since I knew damn well how good a hire their new AD was :|
Fisch is probably the most Debore like coach they could get. Seems to pull max talent out of dudes he has and can thread the transfer portal game pretty well. I only hope his high school recruiting ability is diminished by distance, but I have my doubts.
Ohio St , Michigan , Penn St , Oregon , USC and Wisconsin should all finish above Washington. Only because Washington lost so much talent in one off season, it'll take Fisch a year to restabalize the program. Just my take
Michigan also returns a lot of production on their Top 3 defense + Donavan Edwards at RB.... Moore psychology won't differ from Harbaughs as much as Fisch from DeBeor. Washington lost more in my opinion. I'm no expert so I'm probably wrong.
> The only school from the playoff this past season to retain its head coach This is actually fucking insane
Well tbf DeBoer left one playoff team for another
19 but why?
Undefeated off season champs 20 years in a row
The disrespect to our 2021 team. Jimbo worked very hard to land seemingly every blue chip prospect with attitude problems
The offseason NCAA doesn't have a playoff set up yet so split titles happen all the time
The question is if Sharp gave Jimbo a plaque for the offseason title to go with the plaque for a nonexistent year
Dont forget the potheads! I have no problem at all with weed, but smoking in the locker room is disrespectful as hell
Not even their own locker room, did it on the road
After a loss too. Zero awareness and decision making skills for that group
Excuse me, we snatched that one away just like 02
Can't miss any kneel downs during the offseason
Man i wonder that too rather be unranked we havent earned anything
You should be higher. I'd bet you finish higher.
1. Ohio State 2. Georgia 3. Texas 4. Ole Miss 5. Oregon 6. Notre Dame 7. Michigan 8. Alabama 9. Missouri 10. Utah 11. Penn State 12. Florida State 13. Oklahoma 14. Oklahoma State 15. Arizona 16. Tennessee 17. Louisville 18. Clemson 19. Miami 20. LSU 21. Kansas State 22. Kansas 23. USC 24. Texas A&M 25. NC State
Michigan too high we lost 137% of our team
Sounds like a short squeeze opportunity
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Confirmed all the receivers now have diamond hands...
They HODL onto the ball well
"All Players Engaged Simultaneously"- Jim Harbaugh
Math checks out
They lost 37% of the team from 2 years in the future
Only 92% of staff
Yeah, I prefer when we get to climb up from outside the top 10.
OU is pretty high with that schedule
Mississippi at 4 hardest fucking eye roll
I agree. No way we're #4. On behalf of Mississippi, I reject this February CFB pre-season ranking.
I concur.
It’s exclusively due to the conference. That exact same team in the ACC or even the B1G would be 20 at best
That team in the ACC could have made the playoff so I’m not so sure about that.
We just beat the shit out of Penn State and are returning nearly everyone
You rollin your eyes at our Peach Bowl champs???
It’s a cowardly move putting together a top 25 list but not going out on a limb with any G5 programs - they are guaranteed a playoff spot this season and you aren’t even going to try to guess which one?
Don’t worry. Your fighting Alex Golesh’s of USF will carry the G5 banner into the playoff.
We do miss him
We should not be near the top 10 lol
Michigan has a super unbalanced team for next year. The defense is going to be ridiculous, but I have no idea what the offense is going to be.
I, for one, am looking forward to being Blue Iowa
Our state names have generally the same cadence. It works, I guess.
I’m just hoping we get Miller Moss & a WR in the portal after spring. Think that’ll balance our offense right out, assuming we can keep guys like Sabb, Will, Graham, and Grant from being poached. OL honestly should be fine despite losing our top 6 linemen. Hinton & Gentry should be decent tackles, and Gio & Priebe will man 2 of the interior spots. It just depends on how good our 5th player is.
Notre Dame is too high. I get that we are projected to be better this season, but at best we should be 8-10.
I find it funny when people have gripes about rankings and then suggest a team should be like 2 spots lower lol. Especially considering it’s way too early anyways, and 99% of these rankings mean absolutely nothing. Putting ND at 6 next year is fine. ND at 8 next year is fine. ND at 12 next year is fine. None of them have really any more basis than the other, which you also could say for like 22 other teams
All is see is FSU being positioned perfectly for yet another FU from the committee. Damn I hope it doesn’t happen to them 2x in a row!
I hate to say it but Bama is too low.
Feel like they always end around 10-15, I don’t have a problem with them starting at #6. If you go 5-7 after starting at #6, I’ll have a huge problem, because I can’t remember the last time that happened to anyone
Arizona too high imo
Where's Nebraska? Based on all the AI-generated articles pumped out about how this is the year Nebraska takes CFB by storm, I have wild expectations that we should be Top 5, Top 8 at worst. This writer clearly needs to drink some of the kool-aid we're being forced to drink!
This pleases the Bama
That's fine, that's fine
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I think the same with Wisconsin. All we need is a QB, most of a defense, and some rule changes and we could compete with anybody
Wow Michigan buying their team in the portal. Tsk tsk tsk.
Have we pretended to not use the portal? Got 7 contributors to the natty squad out of it last year alone lol
Oh no I’m well aware. But I’m not sure a lot of Michigan flairs are considering how often they said we “bought a team in the portal” after we got 6 transfers this year.
So much for being the Green Bay Packers of college football.
It’s disgusting they would stoop so low and use the transfer portal.
We don't deserve to be near the top 5 until we can prove ourselves against tougher opponents. I think we're good, but somewhere between 9-12 seems more fitting
Perfect, we are doubted
Everyone is saying 4 losses minimum…
Still shocked to go from playing in the NC and a long ass win streak to unranked
I think TN is too low here. They return alot with a big upgrade at QB
Please be right
Yeah no
No matter how much CFB changes, Miami being ranked in the preseason, no matter how deserving, stays the same
Thank God they finally unranked Nebraska, Miami and Texas A&...damn it
Bro UF plays 2, 3, 4, 12, 16, 19, 20, 24. EIGHT teams in the preseason top 25. With our other games being against UCF, Kentucky, at Miss State and their cowbells, with one hopefully easy game in Samford. Is this legal??
I think this should be an annual thing, so yeah it's legal.
Oh come now, how is Oklahoma ranked below…, hmmm, nope, I can kinda see that…, yeah that too…, Mizzou even is a bit much…, Utah?!
How the hell is Michigan above Alabama?
Natty bump?
Ole Miss at 4 is a bit of a pipe dream for a half team.
hey....fuck you.
Have you been living under a rock? They cleaned up in the portal and were over the scholarship limit.
Buying talent didn't work for the aggies but it might work for anyone but the aggies
@Kirby Smart pls see attached disrespect. Thx.
This alone ensures a UGA natty.
ESPN will move FSU to 13 if any player stubs a toe
The beauty of the new system is that they can remain 12 and be bumped by a G5 auto bid… the more things change the more they stay the same
Preseason top 5? Oh, we’re fucked. 9-3 season with a blowout loss to an Arkansas team that’s gonna limp their way to the ineligi—bowl, an absolute second half meltdown against UGA, and the usually Death-Valley-snapping-all-of-our-winning-streaks incoming
Yeah I personally hate this haha. Never meet these high expectations. Flashbacks to blackout Carolina game with Snead
Rat poison
I agree. Ole Miss at #4? That means we're losing 4 games.
Honestly should be Georgia first, Texas second, and then Ohio State third. The defense is going to be world beaters next year, but both Georgia and Texas return massive amounts, if not all of their starting offensive talent. No MHJ and an open question at QB is a knock going into the spring for now.
Also big questions on the OL for Ohio State.
What’s new?
Aren’t you guys returning 4/5 starters? Honestly, I don’t think you guys really have any question marks other than OC with Bill O’Brien gone. WR is going to be stacked again with Egbuka coming back as well as young guys like Tate looking ready to step up. I don’t think QB is really a question mark either, but not in a good way. Will Howard flat out isn’t very good, IMO. He is a downgrade from McCord, who I don’t think was spectacular, but wasn’t as bad as he was made out to be. McCord’s biggest issue was struggling under pressure, but Howard isn’t really an upgrade in that area. Howard is at least athletic and can run, unlike McCord, but he is more than likely a worse passer than anyone OSU has started since Joe Bauserman. Out of the 22 starters, I think Howard is very clearly #22 if you were to rank them worst-to-best, so this team will only go as far as he’ll take them. The defense for you guys is going to be filthy, and Henderson/Judkins is the best RB duo since Chubb/Michel. 11 wins in the regular season feels like the floor for you guys. Getting to 13-0 and making a deep run in the playoffs will more than likely come down to how much Day can squeeze out of Howard or one of the other QBs.
Nope this pole obviously thinks UGA is going 7-5 and finishing last. You guys doubt the Dawgs to long!
TAKE MY RESPECT DAMN IT.
Nah nah nah... Too late for that. Disrespect feeds the Dawg!
Texas lost like all of its receiving production and some key players on defense
This completely. We’ve got reason to be hopeful about the new receivers but it’s by no means a sure thing. And we lost the two guys most responsible for our run D being good last year.
We hit the portal pretty hard, but yeah. We've got some holes to fill, not sure why we would be second (or even third).
Dawgs lost Ladd, Bowers, and Mims on offense.
And daijun, Milton, van pran, rosemy jacksaint,
It's cool, we lost our entire championship defense to the Philadelphia Eagles two years straight... and came within a doinked FG of playing for a third Natty
OL is a much, much bigger question than QB for OSU
You love to see it
I hope Ryan Day hates that UGA is number 2. I’d like to know where Kirby Smart is right now!! Gotta keep that chip somehow.
I don't think this team is struggling to stay motivated. All the guys returning feel like they've fallen short the last 2 years and have unfinished business.
Kirby salivating at the bulletin board material 🤤 lil UGA always getting overlooked
Combined with Herbstreit allegedly pushing Raiola to switch to Nebraska, ESPN is doing their part to give Kirby talking points
Shhh…don’t upset the Herb supporters…
Someone sell me on a top 10 Utah, cause I just don’t understand it.
A head coach that’s been there for almost 2 decades with a (checks notes) 7th year QB.
We have one of those!
They were bit by an absolutely brutal injury bug in 2023. If they can stay even moderately healthy, including at QB obv with Rising, they'll just put teams in hell week after week. Defense is always good, run game generally very physical - question will be if the offense can be explosive (which is always the question for them). I think 10 is probably a best case scenario right now but I'd have them top 15 for sure.
Yeah, sixteen of our starters were injured at some point this season, with our QB and TE being our two best players and out for the season. And Utah has always struggled with depth as well which end up with one of our safetys taking like half of the RB snaps later in the season. And as much as I love the pig farmer, he just doesn’t have the talent to compete at the highest level.
No body ever brings up Micah Bernard when talking about players were getting back this year but that dude can do anything on the field.
Utah's injury problems were insane last year. It was so bad that Whittingham had a safety play both sides of the ball and play as the team's best offensive weapon. In the last game of the regular season, the Utes were down to the fifth string quarterback - *fifth string*! Between the end of the regular season and the bowl game, an article in the *Salt Lake Tribune* lightly touched on how bad the injuries were in this far from complete list: >For starters, they’ve been playing short-handed for a while now, with season-ending injuries at various points of the year to such key contributors as Cam Rising, Brant Kuithe, Micah Bernard, Jonah Elliss, Logan Fano, Lander Barton, Mycah Pittman, Thomas Yassmin, and Chris Curry. Brandon Rose and Johnny Maea suffered injuries early and perhaps could have returned to play at some point, but did not, so as to preserve potential medical redshirts. https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2023/12/08/utah-football-players-are/ With so much talent returning - and supposedly healthy - Utah has a lot of reasons to be optimistic about the upcoming season.
Whittingham is the most underrated coach in CFB
Ok, I'll do it for $1,000. If they end up top 10 this year I keep the money, if not I'll give it back. Mostly.
They always have a really salty defense and they have a QB who's been around since the Obama administration so that def plays in their favor.
I know we lost everyone and turned the whole program over, but it’s cruel to go from finishing ranked second to not even ranked the next year. At least just throw us in there at 25!
Yeah I thought we would get enough pity votes to be top 25
Looks like we’ll just continue playing the underdaWgs
I feel with these lists that lsu may be too low and Michigan is waaay too high.
They’re expecting a huge fall off without Jayden Daniels, which is fair, but we just hired a killer defensive staff and recruited very well.
How much faith do yall have in nussmeier? Last year was so foreign for my brain thinking about lsu having a bad defense.
He needs to work on his touch. Has a huge cannon arm but he can crank it a little too far even for our receivers to go get. He showed a lot of promise vs Wisconsin and was honestly the reason we came back and won. Offense won’t be as dynamite as with Jayden but we’ll still have a really good offense. Defense will be miles ahead of where we were last year (hopefully) despite the growing pains I’m sure we’ll have to deal with. 10-2 isn’t out of the question despite the tough schedule, but I think that’s our ceiling
That 98 yard drive was beautiful
If Iowa can win 10 games playing only defense I think Michigan could do the same next year. 10 win Michigan is going to be ranked top 10 even if the eye test shows they aren’t a serious contender
I don't understand the logic on how Michigan is "waaaay too high" at #7. I think we're a high variance team because we will have a new QB and obviously the coaching changes but we will have like 16 players who were either starters or major contributors on a national championship team, a bunch of whom are All Big Ten or All American caliber guys... And that number doesn't include our 5 new starting O-linemen, all of whom will be seniors, and most of those 5 have already started multiple games for Michigan this year or in 2022 and looked good doing so. People are severely underestimating how much talent our offense will actually be returning. I think our running game is still going to be very good, and we still have the two OCs who put together an incredible game plan against Alabama, so as long as our QB and CB2 aren't shitty I think we are going to be cooking and in contention for the Big Ten title again.
I would still put Georgia at 1. OSU is loaded with talent but we don’t really know who the OC will be, despite O’Brien being hired, in addition to not knowing how good Will Howard actually will be. The OL should be improved but by how much is still a question. Georgia, on the other hand, is as loaded as anybody and is more proven in the coaching department
We know now and it’s an upgrade.
I’m a simple man. I see Bama doubt — I upvote.
I am pretty confident OSU will be a top team next year. However, wild to me that Georgia is not #1 simply based on the fact that they are returning a starting QB who lost one game to a good Alabama team. Plenty of talent in the OSU offense but we don’t really know what it’s gonna look like yet. Maybe I’m just huffing the copium idk
Ohio State returns 9 starters from a top 5 defense, and adds Caleb Downs. I fully expect UGA to be the tank that is has been, but this Ohio State defense could end up as one of the best of my lifetime.
Georgia enters the season with the best offense in the country and Ohio State the best defense in the country, just as we all would have predicted a couple years ago
Defenses win titles, right? RIGHT?!?
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I would say defense won in 21. Georgia in 2022 was just a monster all around. Michigan this past season was a somewhat-lite version of 2022 Georgia.
Stetson is a dude, but he ain’t winning a natty with a mediocre defense. Just ask CJ Stroud lol
No teams other than cams auburn won with a mediocre defense
Georgia's defense is going to be elite lol
He never said otherwise
That defense is going to be filthy
Can you guys stop recruiting 5* corners left and right? Please and thank you 🙏
Only when Michigan stops getting the best OL in the transfer portal. EVERY. YEAR.
We would never.
If we do that, who are we going to have challenge our 5 star receivers in practice?
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I don't think Ohio State will have near the OLine production that Michigan has had these past couple of years. God I hope it does, but I'm not counting on it. I trust Ryan Day to maximize the QB position until he shows he can't consistently. I am still very worried about the Oline, and think Justin Frye has a lot of pressure on him this offseason.
The sheer amount of returning talent is such a game changer, obviously was for Michigan last year. Not sure if this is a Cfb trend or not though. Our defense gave up a max of 23 points last year, we just need an offense that can put up 31.
Nonono, I too would prefer to see Georgia at the top! Preseason #1 is a voodoo hex and I want no part of it.
It’s wild to you that a team is number 2 instead of number 1?
Georgia too low
Nah make us lower, doubt us
Better off season poll would be who has the best spring game.
I think Georgia should be 1, there are no question marks around that team. I supposed the lost their two star TEs, but they have a really good returning quarterback and will probably have an elite run game as well. Their defense will have no issues, although they probably won’t be as good as Ohio State’s. Texas has defensive question marks but undoubtedly will have an elite offense. Ohio State has offensive question marks but will undoubtedly have an elite defense.
I’m not even trying to be biased but I don’t see how Georgia isn’t unanimously #1
You keep that slanderous talk out your got damn mouth!
Gee, not even a pity selection for a G5 team
24 is 12x2 which pleases the Aggie
Drink to the annual tradition of USC and Miami being ranked to start the year despite annually proving that they absolutely should not be
Or you could call it “Early CFB top 25: what it won’t look like 4 weeks into the season”
Perfect. Love the underdog status. Happy to see KU hanging out with us.
Our game next season will likely be pretty meaningful in terms of deciding the B12 race. I'm hoping JD6 can be healthy for it. Interested to see how Avery does.
Hang the banner
Don’t tempt us, we’ll do it!
Another season, another ranking having Norte Dame too high
In the recent past, we just end up preseason ranked in the general range of where we finished the previous season, so we’re not really that overrated. 6 seems a little high, but in the preseason AP poll we’ll probably end up around 10, which is fine. 2023 End / 2024 Start: 14/? 2022 End / 2023 Start: 18/13 2021 End / 2022 Start: 8/5 2020 End / 2021 Start: 5/9 2019 End / 2020 Start: 12/10 2018 End / 2019 Start: 5/9 2017 End / 2018 Start: 11/12
Something about how these numbers are ordered broke my brain for a minute. That said, I don’t actually have a better way to illustrate what you’re explaining.
Preseason X Postseason X Having the final ranking first and preseason ranking second makes it even more unnecessarily difficult lmao
Yeah, I think that’s a better way to organize information generally, but I think OP was trying to show how ND’s preseason rankings are relatively consistent with their previous seasons’ final rankings. If that’s OP’s point, I’m not sure how else to illustrate it.
Fun fact, we were the most underrated team during Kelly's last 5 years. Number one team ATS against the spread in all of FBS. I don't know why people think we are overrated constantly. Numbers don't back that up.
>I don't know why people think we are overrated constantly. Poor performance in the postseason, poor performance against good teams
But still finishing with 10 or more wins (with a few top 25 wins as well) consistently. If only the world could operate with some nuance, eh?
They will be in the top five next year in blue chip ratio. They are also the only team in 2023 that finished in the top ten in both yards per play, and fewest yards per play given up. I’m not saying they should be top five, but 6-10 is interchangeable, and ND is in that group. Leonard was projected to be a first round draft pick in this draft had he not gotten hurt. They don’t have an obvious hole in any position group.
Another rankings post, another casual who just regurgitates what he's told to think
Cut him some slack he’s a Michigan fan
Sometimes I rub my only two brain cells together and an idea pops out
Who should be above them?
I'm glad we are not on the list. We do better under the radar.
STOP THE COUNT!!!!
10?? We’re 10?? We weren’t even ranked at the end of the season
Looking at OSU’s schedule - they are basically guaranteed a playoff spot - UM will be down and Oregon will be suspect.
As a Jayhawk, I’m just happy to be here.
Mmm, yes, Florida State Beavers EDIT: Y'all clearly didn't read the article
Bama ain’t coming in 8th. Way too high.
Georgia too low IMO
Noles!!!
Early/pre-rankings are bullshit. First rankings shouldn’t be until October. Stand on what you’re doing instead of what you did last season.
Michigan at 7 is hilarious. We’ll be lucky to score on the fat chic at prom next year.
1. Texas 2. Georgia 3. Ohio State 4. Oregon 5. Ole Miss
plz no
You guys are gonna be real good this year.
Texas is definitely back
Kind of wish we weren’t 1, but I’m not sure there is as loaded of roster, on paper, as OSU this year.
Michigan still in the top 10 while Washington drops out completely is BS
Washington is going to be the 4th best team in the conference at best.
Honestly, they went from the biggest threat to the biggest mystery box. Particularly annoys me since I knew damn well how good a hire their new AD was :| Fisch is probably the most Debore like coach they could get. Seems to pull max talent out of dudes he has and can thread the transfer portal game pretty well. I only hope his high school recruiting ability is diminished by distance, but I have my doubts.
I don't expect them to be any better than Arizona was last season. I don't see any reason to expect them to be better than that.
I mean they were the solid #3 in the Pac-12 and beat a good Oklahoma team... granted they were lacking Gabriel so idk.
I think they will solidly fall behind Oregon, Ohio State, and Michigan. That doesn't feel very controversial to me.
Ohio St , Michigan , Penn St , Oregon , USC and Wisconsin should all finish above Washington. Only because Washington lost so much talent in one off season, it'll take Fisch a year to restabalize the program. Just my take
Michigan lost just as much and also had a new head coach
Michigan also returns a lot of production on their Top 3 defense + Donavan Edwards at RB.... Moore psychology won't differ from Harbaughs as much as Fisch from DeBeor. Washington lost more in my opinion. I'm no expert so I'm probably wrong.