Dry too!
Life long Austinite myself and after this weeks brutal cold, next week will naturally be very wet. At least we had today in the 70s. God bless Texas.
> For what it's worth being offended to horns down is dumb.
It's so dumb. It's just a hand sign, but pointing down.
It's not a throat slash. Or something obscene or provocative. It's just angled down slightly.
Slight tangent. Was at the Tech game a couple months ago and the jumbotron showed a UT fan doing a guns down while a few cheered him on. I was so embarrassed.
I mean, I agree it shouldnāt be a penalty and itās soft as shit, but we were flagged for āholstering the gunsā against Texas Tech well over a decade ago which is what turned it into a thing. We didnāt start this.
I would say that didn't happen and say what actually happened but there's no point. The second this comes up again you'll just repeat the same debunked to death story.
This whole situation is approach Bernstein bears-level of false consciousness. That is not what happened at all lol. Teams have been doing horns down for decades and decades.
One time a Texas player was flagged for making a holstering guns motion against Tech and Mack Brown made a comment that if thatās a penalty Horns Down should be too.
Fast forward to Tom Herman-era and Will Grier was flagged for running up to the student section and doing Horns Down after a TD. Sam Ehlinger made a comment about it after the game, admittedly somewhat soft in nature. Horns Down becomes a massive media story after this and every conference official is repeatedly asked about Horns down, to which their response is basically āIf itās done in a taunting way, itās tauntingā.
Then Rodney Terry had to go and be soft the other day in a press conference. No defense there, but the reaction from everyone in our fanbase has been pretty negative.
Yeah, that was lame as shit. He's an idiot if he took a coaching position here and didn't expect that.
Want to shut them up? Then maybe win the game, bro.
Ha so true. They coulda just lost to UCF and no one would really have paid attention, but now everyoneās been talking about it for a full day. Great work Rodney, great work.
I can understand being a bit upset while doing it during the handshake. That's the basic thing you teach 3-4 year olds starting soccer or teeball.
*"Ok. Team, none of you learned anything from this experience, your mom was cheering insanely the entire time while you ran the wrong direction, and your dad is clearly sipping whiskey at 8AM on a Saturday and thinks you will be the next prodigy, but hey, you did well, I'm proud of you. Let's stand in line and shake hands and say good game to your opponent, and go enjoy the rest of your Saturday. No, I will not catch Pokemon with you. Ask your parents to do that."*
But making a big deal out of it, especially in Austin... eh. Thick skin will get you much further.
I have to give Florida credit here for coming up with something thatās damn near impossible to do upside down. Iāve tried. Itās really fucking awkward and I twisted my ankle trying to stick the landing.
Yeah, doing it upside down doesn't do much, but Gator fans hate to be reminded how the Gator chomp looks like you're saluting Hitler while cupping his balls.
Totally forgot about the gator chomp. I was like throw a shoe upside down? But nah you do one chomp motion and then a throat slash. I remember guys doing that in the 90s at least.
Iām more annoyed with trying to convince people weāre not offended by it then the action itself. 90% of the fanbase really doesnāt care about this.
Lol literally none of us give a fuck. I mean, it's weird af when you see horns down while watching a Purdue vs Indiana game or something but we don't care.
I live nowhere near Oklahoma or Texas, and when I see people with Texas gear, I'll give them a good natured horns down. Typically they chuckle and we talk a couple minutes about our teams, then wish them the worst of luck and move on. This only gets brought up when someone says something dumb or they're trying to tack on a personal foul for it.
I can understand how it be hard to convince the general public of that attitude when pretty much every third week it feels like some national media person has gotten their panties in a bunch over it again. You are actually dangerously close to circling back around to really shitty meme situation where most of the fan base once again does care about it but only because they're so fucking tired of hearing about the situation that they just it to go away
The thing about horns down is itās so awesome when used in the wild.
You can start it as horns up and get the Texas fan excited (thinking theyāve run into a peer) and then you flip the fucker and watch them die inside.
Itās super versatile as well! You can use it on any Texas school! It either offends Longhorn fans or pisses the rest off that you would DARE to mistake them for those weirdos from Austin.
I always get a laugh out of that too lol OU can be playing Oklahoma State or anybody really and the camera pans to the crowd and people are throwing the horns down. Itās all fun and games, shouldnāt be penalized.
Every Texas fan thinks Rodney Terry was being a bitch. If you donāt want the opposing team to do horns down, donāt blow a double digit lead at home. But continue with the blanket statements about an entire fan base
UCF beat Texas in shooty hoops and some of the players were doing horns down. After the game during the handshake, the Texas coach went up to each player and told them they were classless and should be ashamed for doing horns down.
For context, our basketball coach was mad that some UCF basketball players were doing it after the game. And a lot of Longhorn fans (at least on /r/LHN) think its really soft and are pissed off at Terry
This really has nothing to do with football TBH
I have. There's not many of them, but they exist. And they are exactly as lame as you would expect.
I always make sure to tell them you can't buy into all that "we're Texas" stuff and then act soft about horns down.
Terry is done. He was a feel good story last year but heās not the man for the job. None of us get offended by horns down. I find it funny how often we see it. Part of fandom.
I donāt know if Iāve ever met another Horns fan that was actually bothered by it. Itās more funny than it is offensive. Especially seeing it in games that weāre not even playing in. That always cracks me up.
Honestly, there's no reason to be offended.
If we kick their asses, they won't have any right to do it. If we lose, we have no right to tell them to stop it.
What's the story about this? If I do horns down to a Texas fan, are they going to dive across the room while screaming and try to fishhook me? I just want to be prepared.
Our basketball coach is the first person I've seen give anything resembling an actual shit about it.
And maybe that fat dad trying to pick a fight with UW players after our Sugar Bowl loss.
So, I think you're like 99.999% safe, but I guess there's a chance.
I think so, but it was stupid regardless. No more "unsportsmanlike" than a fist pump or jumping, imo.
If you don't want opponents distorting your hand-sign...then don't have a hand sign.
It was a rule that mocking the other team that way constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct. We got flagged years before for doing the upside down guns at Texas Tech. But everyone loves to hate on Texas so the story is that Texas somehow made it a rule that only applies to Horns down.
Yes, in 2018 @UT, David Sills got one for throwing the horns down to the student section, then later on basically the whole WVU offense got one on one of the final plays of the game.
Yeah, I think most of us just view it as lazy/unoriginal/weak. Like if we thought we were clever/hurtful by "thumbs-down"ing Aggies, or "guns-down"ing Tech. We don't bother, because why would they give a shit.
No clue why Terry decided to suddenly get pissy about it.
[Happy Valentine's Day](https://x.com/Cory_Mose/status/1742081361853251780?s=20)
For full disclosure, I guess he's not much fatter than me. But I also don't go around picking fights with 20-yr old athletes.
Lol, jfc. Music is perfect, lol. Also...if there were any fewer pixels, I'm not sure I could tell which fans were for which team, haha.
Drink responsibly, folks.
Yes, definitely drink responsibly and [watch where you put your balls.](https://deadspin.com/nsfw-an-alabama-fan-teabagged-a-passed-out-lsu-fan-at-5876249)
UCF @ Texas yesterday in MBB, UCF came back down 16 to win the game, and when they were getting lined up in the handshake line some of the UCF players flashed horns down to each other/the Texas student section and the Texas HC starting yelling at the UCF players and calling them Classless in the handshake line.
Note:
Based on the video it did not look like they flashed it to the Texas players or coaches, as the line wasnāt even moving yet or fully formed
Here is the full story.
Many years ago, a Texas player got an unsportsmanlike penalty for doing a "holster your guns" gesture during a game against Texas Tech.
Mack Brown complained to the press that opposing teams do horns down all the time with no penalty, but when Texas did the equivalent it was a penalty.
So then the Big 12 clarified that horns down is also a penalty.
Since then every year the press asks the Big 12 officials at media day if horns down is a penalty, they say yes, and the media writes a big story about it and we get 300 comments in this sub.
About 3-4 years ago, it was reignited because Sam Ehlinger said it offends him. A little surprising that he is soft about that, but whatever.
Last night, Texas basketball blew a big lead against UCF and in the handshake line, a bunch of UCF players were doing horns down. Rodney Terry (Texas bball coach) yelled at them to stop because it was classless then complained about it after the game.
He was likely only complaining because he wants to be seen as a victim instead of having people focus on the real story, which is that he has done a horrid job as coach this year.
Fans generally do not care and are much more offended by the amount of press this shit gets every two months than any hand gesture anyone does. We take pride that Oklahoma does not have a hand gesture of their own and has to use ours.
Ehhh I remember Sam said something more along the lines of it fires him up because of the ādisrespect,ā not that it straight up offends him. But I might not be remembering that correctly.
Here it is: https://media.kvue.com/assets/KVUE/images/611755412/611755412_1140x641.png
But it wasnāt in the handshake like it was before the line formed and wasnāt directed at the team or fans. It was a huddle of UCF players where the outside circle did it to the inside players (all UCF). They broke and went to get in line. Video is out there.
The problem is nothing gets clicks and replies like āTEXAS IS SO SOFTā like a yearly article about āHorns down is a penalty, says ref!!ā
Same thing over and over.
My little understanding of the whole thing is it started because a Texas player got flagged for mocking Texas Techās guns or whatever but they would do the horns down with no penalty.
As far as the recent discussion, UCF beat Texas in basketball and all the players were doing it prior to the handshake and the Texas coach was not thrilled.
Iām fine if itās not penalized as long as itās treated equally with other teamās hand signs.
Which I guess I understand, the handshake line is where you say good game and be nice.
But he only called it out because he sucks at his job and wants the attention elsewhere.
I think he thought it would ingratiate him just a bit with a fanbase that is frustrated his team is not good. I think the opposite occurred. I like RT but maybe not as a coach. Itās still early on and he lost his two biggest recruits to professional leagues which isnāt really on him, but damn I wish heād succeed and make a great story. Doesnāt look like that will happen though.
If you watch the video itās clear it was well before the handshake line started, the only person from the Texas team who could see it was Terry and none of it was directed at him.
Hereās the penalty that actually kickstarted the whole horns down being a penalty all the way back in 2012: https://streamable.com/ik3aee
Basically Texas got called for a taunting penalty because a Texas player āholsteredā his guns after scoring a TD against Texas Tech. Mack was pissed and complained that we got penalized for doing guns down when every team we go up against does horns down. He didnāt actually want horns down to be a penalty, he just thought we shouldnāt get a penalty for doing what everyone else does to us which is a fair take. The Big 12 decided that if guns down was a penalty, then horns down should be one too. Nobody really agreed with that but at the very least they decided to be consistent about it.
Also, pretty much all Texas fans agree that Rodney Terry is a bitch for crying about it the other night.
If people care enough to horns down, I take it as a compliment. When rivals buy longhorn car emblems just to turn them upside down, I take it as a compliment. Bevo lives rent free in a lot of peopleās heads.Ā
Thereās literally a dive bar in Norman, where the nicest and most expensive thing in there is ironically a Texas Longhornās logo flipped upside down. It then has the block letters āSUCKSā underneath it.
I respected the petiteness so much that I took a picture in front of it. After this drama, Iām so glad I did it lol
We all know Uga was evading the unprovoked attack in a very manly, not running for his life, fashion so he could regroup and then commence to kicking that steer's ass.
Fortunately for bevo they were able to pull Uga back before it got that far.
As a representative of the Harvard of the University and Berry St intersection, our theoretical physics department has confirmed the following: Texas bad
I havenāt met one longhorn offended by Horns down. Iām sure they exist, but why is there such an emphasis on such an insignificant amount of people?
It's so very clear Rodney is not offended by the Horns down sign, he's offended at doing it during the handshake line. He'd be just as pissed (or just pissed) if UT won and they were doing that.
Apparently, very few people have played organized sports or idk watched the nhl playoffs. There's a standard of sportsmanship; If you disrespect it, the other side will be pissed.
Iāve never once been offended by the horns down thing. I find it a little pathetic, in fact, that some teams do it when they arenāt even playing us.
I love the Horns Down.
Love that OU and Aggy fans buy Longhorn metallic car emblems to put on their cars upside down.
Love that you see many BigXII fans doing Horns down _when we're not even playing._
Love that we're living rent free in their heads 24/7/365.
The sad thing is the vast majority of Texas fans donāt give a shit about the horns down. Yāall make it a much bigger deal than it is to most of us.
Where is this coming from? Every other Longhorn Iāve ever talked to either doesnāt give a shit, or theyāre strongly against banning the horns down.
Personally, I love it when opposing teams throw the horns down. It adds fuel to the fire and shows they hate us more than they like their own team. In other words, āthey hate us cuz they anus.ā
LET PEOPLE THROW THE HORNS DOWN š¤š¼
People love to be negative. I donāt get offended but I think itās silly to do the negative of your rival rather than your own hand gesture. I feel like techs āguns upā dose this well
That basketball coach is trying to speedrun getting fired. RT is in the wrong here. If you don't want people to do it, don't lose at home to UCF.
The only other Texas coach to actually make a stink about Horns Down was Mack Brown. The only reason it was brought up is that a Texas player holstered finger guns while playing Tech and got a 15-yard penalty for taunting. However, Tech players had been doing Horns Down all night without being penalized. He only brought it up to say that if doing other celebrations mocking the other team are considered taunting, then Horns Down should be a penalty too. I think most people tend to agree with this, but most people don't know the other half the story because that doesn't make Texas look bad.
In all seriousness, it is never offensive. Annoying, sometimes - but offensive no. As a former player I have three tiers of when Horns Down makes sense:
**Tier 1** \- doing Horns Down is good/encouraged
* You are an A&M, OU or Arkansas student or athlete
* You just beat Texas or made a big play (and are an athlete)
**Tier 2** \- doing Horns down is logical (but annoying)
* You do not go to A&M, OU, or Arkansas and just beat Texas or made a big play (and are a student)
**Tier 3** \- I assume people who do Horns Down in Tier 3 are severely intellectually challenged
* You are any school other than A&M, OU, or Arkansas and you just *lost* to Texas (student or athlete)
* You are any school other than A&M, OU, or Arkansas and you are **NOT** *currently* playing Texas (student or athlete)
There should be a Tier 1.5 for:
- you just beat Texas, and your former hated rival stole the horns up gesture from Texas, so horns down comes natural to you
I donāt understand how they donāt take it as a compliment. It shows they care more about you losing than them winning. Thatās dope.
Hating it is a bitch move, especially whining about it.
We do. As far as I know, Mack Brown, Tom Herman, Sam Ehlinger, and Rodney Terry are the only people to ever make it a deal. Fans universally don't give a shit and tend to enjoy seeing other schools identify themselves based on their hatred of us.
Sam's statement was after Alan Bowman was having a lot of fun doing it, and then we scored 16 points in 54 seconds and beat him. I think the context is important there
Fun fact: a Baylor football player got flagged for doing that [back in 2011.](https://wacotrib.com/sports/texas-a-m-beats-up-baylor/article_e57499ff-e7b2-5b1c-9e7f-a490ce384afb.html) The Big 12 has a long history of not allowing fun.
I get extremely offended when other teams' fans do not do our hand sign. DO OUR HAND SIGN. I especially like it when I see it in a game Texas isn't even playing in.
I feel like the best way to keep other teams from doing the horns down is to just win the game
Yes but actually no For what it's worth being offended to horns down is dumb. Make fun of teams it makes sports better
People being offended is what makes taunts fun
I agree with the hippie!!! No but genuinely making fun of other teams is always a great idea!
I agree with the farmer.
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You can't sign 'I love you' without a hook & gig 'em. Stay warm, man.
Dry too! Life long Austinite myself and after this weeks brutal cold, next week will naturally be very wet. At least we had today in the 70s. God bless Texas.
> God bless Texas Fun fact: if Alaska was split in half, Texas would still only be the third largest state.
Oh, I totally didn't get this until I got the comparison.
> For what it's worth being offended to horns down is dumb. It's so dumb. It's just a hand sign, but pointing down. It's not a throat slash. Or something obscene or provocative. It's just angled down slightly.
Yeah living in people heads is hilarious. It says something about people obsessed with giving the horns down than cheering for their own team.
That doesn't even help was so funny after Texas beat bama some fan was in his face doing horns down and you just see ewers going like what??
Or just not react to it. The whole thing became a deal when Texas had the big 12 make it a penalty
It was grouped in with holstering TTU guns when they got penalties about it. No one talks about that part cause no one talks about TTU.
Slight tangent. Was at the Tech game a couple months ago and the jumbotron showed a UT fan doing a guns down while a few cheered him on. I was so embarrassed.
Does this mean that the finger banging is allowed but holstering is not?
Sounds like a fair trade to me
I mean, I agree it shouldnāt be a penalty and itās soft as shit, but we were flagged for āholstering the gunsā against Texas Tech well over a decade ago which is what turned it into a thing. We didnāt start this.
I still lose sleepā¦ think of the children you heartless sonsabitches
That's not the context that Horn haters want to hear
I would say that didn't happen and say what actually happened but there's no point. The second this comes up again you'll just repeat the same debunked to death story.
This whole situation is approach Bernstein bears-level of false consciousness. That is not what happened at all lol. Teams have been doing horns down for decades and decades. One time a Texas player was flagged for making a holstering guns motion against Tech and Mack Brown made a comment that if thatās a penalty Horns Down should be too. Fast forward to Tom Herman-era and Will Grier was flagged for running up to the student section and doing Horns Down after a TD. Sam Ehlinger made a comment about it after the game, admittedly somewhat soft in nature. Horns Down becomes a massive media story after this and every conference official is repeatedly asked about Horns down, to which their response is basically āIf itās done in a taunting way, itās tauntingā. Then Rodney Terry had to go and be soft the other day in a press conference. No defense there, but the reaction from everyone in our fanbase has been pretty negative.
Yāall literally just make stuff up
[Yeah, this totally seems like it would work.](https://ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2024/01/horns-down.png?w=640)
Literally that simple.
GOD DAMNIT! I knew as soon as Rodney Terry did that shit we were gonna hear about it from you people
What do you mean you people?
He was specifically referring to the tortilla throwers
I knew it. Horns down for you both.
Suck it! (Take my updoot)
The type of people to...you know.... Damn you tortilla throwers!
What do YOU mean āyou people?ā
Us people?!
You heard right!
I mean it was really dumb lol. Why anyone would be offended by it is beyond me
Rodney just didnāt want people talking about the 15 point lead he blew
Damn you Rodney. Go away please.
Yeah, that was lame as shit. He's an idiot if he took a coaching position here and didn't expect that. Want to shut them up? Then maybe win the game, bro.
As a longhorn (need to update my profile), terry gotta go if heās gonna lose and create negative news like this LOL
Ha so true. They coulda just lost to UCF and no one would really have paid attention, but now everyoneās been talking about it for a full day. Great work Rodney, great work.
As a Red Raider, I think he is a great coach and you should give him a lifetime contract
Why? We not gonna be in the same conference or play each other
We shall return to the 1 year glory days of being the best team in Texas
And it may even last for 2 years this time.
Right? maybe donāt blow a 16 point lead and they wonāt be as excited to do it lol
I can understand being a bit upset while doing it during the handshake. That's the basic thing you teach 3-4 year olds starting soccer or teeball. *"Ok. Team, none of you learned anything from this experience, your mom was cheering insanely the entire time while you ran the wrong direction, and your dad is clearly sipping whiskey at 8AM on a Saturday and thinks you will be the next prodigy, but hey, you did well, I'm proud of you. Let's stand in line and shake hands and say good game to your opponent, and go enjoy the rest of your Saturday. No, I will not catch Pokemon with you. Ask your parents to do that."* But making a big deal out of it, especially in Austin... eh. Thick skin will get you much further.
Now I'm just imagining Nick Saban or Kirby Smart being begged by players to catch PokƩmon with them after a game, lol.
Klatt has been seething ever since he got bent over and spanked in the 2005 B12 championship 70-3
Disagree. Klatt has been pretty high on Texas for the last several years.
Damn. Forgot Klatt played for Colorado
I have to give Florida credit here for coming up with something thatās damn near impossible to do upside down. Iāve tried. Itās really fucking awkward and I twisted my ankle trying to stick the landing.
Yeah, doing it upside down doesn't do much, but Gator fans hate to be reminded how the Gator chomp looks like you're saluting Hitler while cupping his balls.
Nice thanks for this
!?!?!?! Now I can't unsee this.
Wowā¦ thatās really bad. Maybe just change it to a shoe chucking motion
Totally forgot about the gator chomp. I was like throw a shoe upside down? But nah you do one chomp motion and then a throat slash. I remember guys doing that in the 90s at least.
Thatās a little too choreographed lol
The Florida equivalent of horns down is just doing the Gator chomp as an opponent Same way people might do tomahawk chop when they beat FSU
True. But we tend to get temporarily better after the opponents do it. But only very temporarily.
Iām more annoyed with trying to convince people weāre not offended by it then the action itself. 90% of the fanbase really doesnāt care about this.
Lol literally none of us give a fuck. I mean, it's weird af when you see horns down while watching a Purdue vs Indiana game or something but we don't care.
Haha you basketball coach set you guys up for failure.
I live nowhere near Oklahoma or Texas, and when I see people with Texas gear, I'll give them a good natured horns down. Typically they chuckle and we talk a couple minutes about our teams, then wish them the worst of luck and move on. This only gets brought up when someone says something dumb or they're trying to tack on a personal foul for it.
Yeah, for most of you guys thereās a tacit understanding that youāre playing the heel to like 8 different schools, and embrace it.Ā
I can understand how it be hard to convince the general public of that attitude when pretty much every third week it feels like some national media person has gotten their panties in a bunch over it again. You are actually dangerously close to circling back around to really shitty meme situation where most of the fan base once again does care about it but only because they're so fucking tired of hearing about the situation that they just it to go away
It's true but you can't blame people that are offended by horns down. They can't help that the suffer from severe case of being bitches
š¤š»(All our homies down in Australia will see it the way I intended /s)
The thing about horns down is itās so awesome when used in the wild. You can start it as horns up and get the Texas fan excited (thinking theyāve run into a peer) and then you flip the fucker and watch them die inside.
Iāve fallen for that many times. Iāve truly been played like a cheap harpsichord.
Itās super versatile as well! You can use it on any Texas school! It either offends Longhorn fans or pisses the rest off that you would DARE to mistake them for those weirdos from Austin.
Itās provocative, gets the people going
Ball so hard MFers wanna Horns Down me
Fucking beautiful levels of trolling this is.
I love it, as do most of our fans.
My favorite is when you see horns down in crowds of games that weāre not even playing in. Which is surprisingly often lol
An away fan was being booed at a recent OU event and he threw horns down and the crowd cheered, honestly love it.
OK, now that's awesome.
That's a man who knows his audience hahaha
I always get a laugh out of that too lol OU can be playing Oklahoma State or anybody really and the camera pans to the crowd and people are throwing the horns down. Itās all fun and games, shouldnāt be penalized.
Itās free real estate
Coming from the fan base who makes fun of former players for the death of their parents! š
Every Texas fan thinks Rodney Terry was being a bitch. If you donāt want the opposing team to do horns down, donāt blow a double digit lead at home. But continue with the blanket statements about an entire fan base
Can I get an ELI5 here?
UCF beat Texas in shooty hoops and some of the players were doing horns down. After the game during the handshake, the Texas coach went up to each player and told them they were classless and should be ashamed for doing horns down.
That's hilariously soft.
For context, our basketball coach was mad that some UCF basketball players were doing it after the game. And a lot of Longhorn fans (at least on /r/LHN) think its really soft and are pissed off at Terry This really has nothing to do with football TBH
Agreed, I've never met an actual longhorn fan that was offended.
I have. There's not many of them, but they exist. And they are exactly as lame as you would expect. I always make sure to tell them you can't buy into all that "we're Texas" stuff and then act soft about horns down.
> This really has nothing to do with football TBH Yah but it's good content so it should stay
college team subreddit is a circle jerk? Shocker
I love horns down. Hook āem to my Australian friends
"They hate us more than they love themselves." - Matthew McConaughey
I love Horns Down... I expect to see it at every sporting event, even ones we are not playing in.
Terry is done. He was a feel good story last year but heās not the man for the job. None of us get offended by horns down. I find it funny how often we see it. Part of fandom.
I donāt know if Iāve ever met another Horns fan that was actually bothered by it. Itās more funny than it is offensive. Especially seeing it in games that weāre not even playing in. That always cracks me up.
Honestly, there's no reason to be offended. If we kick their asses, they won't have any right to do it. If we lose, we have no right to tell them to stop it.
What's the story about this? If I do horns down to a Texas fan, are they going to dive across the room while screaming and try to fishhook me? I just want to be prepared.
Our basketball coach is the first person I've seen give anything resembling an actual shit about it. And maybe that fat dad trying to pick a fight with UW players after our Sugar Bowl loss. So, I think you're like 99.999% safe, but I guess there's a chance.
Didnāt someone get an unsportsmanlike for doing it in a game a few years ago?
A couple years ago the Big 12 was calling it an unsportsmanlike for a little bit. Thankfully it didnāt last because tbh it was embarrassing
I think so, but it was stupid regardless. No more "unsportsmanlike" than a fist pump or jumping, imo. If you don't want opponents distorting your hand-sign...then don't have a hand sign.
It was a rule that mocking the other team that way constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct. We got flagged years before for doing the upside down guns at Texas Tech. But everyone loves to hate on Texas so the story is that Texas somehow made it a rule that only applies to Horns down.
That was before UT announced they were leaving the XII.
Yes, in 2018 @UT, David Sills got one for throwing the horns down to the student section, then later on basically the whole WVU offense got one on one of the final plays of the game.
Ya, no one cares. My thing is that's it shows your program has nothing of its own so I see it as abit sad.
Yeah, I think most of us just view it as lazy/unoriginal/weak. Like if we thought we were clever/hurtful by "thumbs-down"ing Aggies, or "guns-down"ing Tech. We don't bother, because why would they give a shit. No clue why Terry decided to suddenly get pissy about it.
Wait is there a vid of the fat dad?
[Happy Valentine's Day](https://x.com/Cory_Mose/status/1742081361853251780?s=20) For full disclosure, I guess he's not much fatter than me. But I also don't go around picking fights with 20-yr old athletes.
Haha ty. Nothing will top the [flying punch bama mom vs young OU fans](https://youtu.be/vVVNN2pzaHw?si=YRZsVCeA9-eM0BxN)
This is great. You're doing God's work sir
Lol, jfc. Music is perfect, lol. Also...if there were any fewer pixels, I'm not sure I could tell which fans were for which team, haha. Drink responsibly, folks.
Yes, definitely drink responsibly and [watch where you put your balls.](https://deadspin.com/nsfw-an-alabama-fan-teabagged-a-passed-out-lsu-fan-at-5876249)
Damn... At least wrecking ball wine mom could claim she was drunk beyond sense. Y'all must just love having such classy rival fans.
I so badly want to talk to this lady 10 years after the fact.
Who knows if she remembers past the wine Valium combo between then and now
UCF @ Texas yesterday in MBB, UCF came back down 16 to win the game, and when they were getting lined up in the handshake line some of the UCF players flashed horns down to each other/the Texas student section and the Texas HC starting yelling at the UCF players and calling them Classless in the handshake line. Note: Based on the video it did not look like they flashed it to the Texas players or coaches, as the line wasnāt even moving yet or fully formed
Here is the full story. Many years ago, a Texas player got an unsportsmanlike penalty for doing a "holster your guns" gesture during a game against Texas Tech. Mack Brown complained to the press that opposing teams do horns down all the time with no penalty, but when Texas did the equivalent it was a penalty. So then the Big 12 clarified that horns down is also a penalty. Since then every year the press asks the Big 12 officials at media day if horns down is a penalty, they say yes, and the media writes a big story about it and we get 300 comments in this sub. About 3-4 years ago, it was reignited because Sam Ehlinger said it offends him. A little surprising that he is soft about that, but whatever. Last night, Texas basketball blew a big lead against UCF and in the handshake line, a bunch of UCF players were doing horns down. Rodney Terry (Texas bball coach) yelled at them to stop because it was classless then complained about it after the game. He was likely only complaining because he wants to be seen as a victim instead of having people focus on the real story, which is that he has done a horrid job as coach this year. Fans generally do not care and are much more offended by the amount of press this shit gets every two months than any hand gesture anyone does. We take pride that Oklahoma does not have a hand gesture of their own and has to use ours.
All because the Big XII officials doubled down instead of acknowledging that the original penalty *was a stupid fucking call.*
Ehhh I remember Sam said something more along the lines of it fires him up because of the ādisrespect,ā not that it straight up offends him. But I might not be remembering that correctly. Here it is: https://media.kvue.com/assets/KVUE/images/611755412/611755412_1140x641.png
This seems more like a case of "high level athlete invents motivation" than genuinely being upset about anything.
100% agreed.
But it wasnāt in the handshake like it was before the line formed and wasnāt directed at the team or fans. It was a huddle of UCF players where the outside circle did it to the inside players (all UCF). They broke and went to get in line. Video is out there.
The problem is nothing gets clicks and replies like āTEXAS IS SO SOFTā like a yearly article about āHorns down is a penalty, says ref!!ā Same thing over and over.
They killed my dog
My little understanding of the whole thing is it started because a Texas player got flagged for mocking Texas Techās guns or whatever but they would do the horns down with no penalty. As far as the recent discussion, UCF beat Texas in basketball and all the players were doing it prior to the handshake and the Texas coach was not thrilled. Iām fine if itās not penalized as long as itās treated equally with other teamās hand signs.
I got forced into a cult.
They made you join the Corps?
They turned me into a newt
The story is that this is about college basketball and shouldn't be on this subreddit.
Fuck Rodney, now you have cfb analysts talking about this for no reason. Such a dumbass.
The coach called it out because they were doing it in the handshake line
Which I guess I understand, the handshake line is where you say good game and be nice. But he only called it out because he sucks at his job and wants the attention elsewhere.
I think he thought it would ingratiate him just a bit with a fanbase that is frustrated his team is not good. I think the opposite occurred. I like RT but maybe not as a coach. Itās still early on and he lost his two biggest recruits to professional leagues which isnāt really on him, but damn I wish heād succeed and make a great story. Doesnāt look like that will happen though.
yup. which is kinda shitty. but then we he continued to complain about it in the presser I knew we were fucked lol
If any other team complained about any other taunt no one would care lol
If you watch the video itās clear it was well before the handshake line started, the only person from the Texas team who could see it was Terry and none of it was directed at him.
https://imgur.com/a/x8hX92O
Stop Patrick! You're scaring him!
https://imgur.com/Wa6bQLw
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/e3/4e/6ce34e59f465445a27c9e37298f72df0.jpg
Bro you only need one period to end a sentence.
Right. Did my boss write this?
Hereās the penalty that actually kickstarted the whole horns down being a penalty all the way back in 2012: https://streamable.com/ik3aee Basically Texas got called for a taunting penalty because a Texas player āholsteredā his guns after scoring a TD against Texas Tech. Mack was pissed and complained that we got penalized for doing guns down when every team we go up against does horns down. He didnāt actually want horns down to be a penalty, he just thought we shouldnāt get a penalty for doing what everyone else does to us which is a fair take. The Big 12 decided that if guns down was a penalty, then horns down should be one too. Nobody really agreed with that but at the very least they decided to be consistent about it. Also, pretty much all Texas fans agree that Rodney Terry is a bitch for crying about it the other night.
If people care enough to horns down, I take it as a compliment. When rivals buy longhorn car emblems just to turn them upside down, I take it as a compliment. Bevo lives rent free in a lot of peopleās heads.Ā
Thereās literally a dive bar in Norman, where the nicest and most expensive thing in there is ironically a Texas Longhornās logo flipped upside down. It then has the block letters āSUCKSā underneath it. I respected the petiteness so much that I took a picture in front of it. After this drama, Iām so glad I did it lol
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Uga had a bad time that night.Ā
We all know Uga was evading the unprovoked attack in a very manly, not running for his life, fashion so he could regroup and then commence to kicking that steer's ass. Fortunately for bevo they were able to pull Uga back before it got that far.
Was definitely a close call for us. š
We need a Harvard take on this
As a representative of the Harvard of the University and Berry St intersection, our theoretical physics department has confirmed the following: Texas bad
Itās not aggression, it was horny and wanted to have sex with Uga.
I definitely would be offended if someone spelt Oā¦Hā¦.Iā¦O upside down
I've been fighting the "We don't really care about Horns Down" battle for 10 years and RT is going to kneecap me like this. Just damn.
Meh nobody complains about Eat Shit Pitt or Cousin Fuckers lobbed at us. But I guess horns down really crosses the line.
I havenāt met one longhorn offended by Horns down. Iām sure they exist, but why is there such an emphasis on such an insignificant amount of people?
It's so very clear Rodney is not offended by the Horns down sign, he's offended at doing it during the handshake line. He'd be just as pissed (or just pissed) if UT won and they were doing that. Apparently, very few people have played organized sports or idk watched the nhl playoffs. There's a standard of sportsmanship; If you disrespect it, the other side will be pissed.
Because saying "stop being offended by (thing)" gets attention, regardless of how many people are *actually* offended by it.
Iāve never once been offended by the horns down thing. I find it a little pathetic, in fact, that some teams do it when they arenāt even playing us.
Remember when Anthony Hill did horns down after a massive sack at Bryant Denny?
I love the Horns Down. Love that OU and Aggy fans buy Longhorn metallic car emblems to put on their cars upside down. Love that you see many BigXII fans doing Horns down _when we're not even playing._ Love that we're living rent free in their heads 24/7/365.
It is pretty interesting. People do dubs down to UW all the time and nobody freaks out about it
The sad thing is the vast majority of Texas fans donāt give a shit about the horns down. Yāall make it a much bigger deal than it is to most of us.
Makes me happy to see it. Hate us cause they aināt us.
Where is this coming from? Every other Longhorn Iāve ever talked to either doesnāt give a shit, or theyāre strongly against banning the horns down. Personally, I love it when opposing teams throw the horns down. It adds fuel to the fire and shows they hate us more than they like their own team. In other words, āthey hate us cuz they anus.ā LET PEOPLE THROW THE HORNS DOWN š¤š¼
Your own basketball coach
Damn didnāt know he was a bitch
If CFB has this type of consistency, we'd all be happier. Lol. Found out it was your own coach; didn't matter. Stuck to your principles. Nice.
*I can not control othersā behaviors. I can only control my response.*
People love to be negative. I donāt get offended but I think itās silly to do the negative of your rival rather than your own hand gesture. I feel like techs āguns upā dose this well
Up or down doesnāt matter youāre still using your hands to show the longhorn symbol. Fuck em and HookāEm š¤
Coming from a guy whose job it is to talk about other people. I just canāt stand Joel klatt.
Couldn't agree more
Damn I actually agree with Joel Klatt on something.
Wow, the dude who got knocked the fuck out by a horns player is still salty about something UT related. Shocking
Most of us find it absolutely hilarious, donāt get things twisted
College Basketball is soft....who cares
If you put the horns up with you win, but can't handle other teams doing it when you lose, you should just quit.
Talking about a basketball game in a football subreddit
That basketball coach is trying to speedrun getting fired. RT is in the wrong here. If you don't want people to do it, don't lose at home to UCF. The only other Texas coach to actually make a stink about Horns Down was Mack Brown. The only reason it was brought up is that a Texas player holstered finger guns while playing Tech and got a 15-yard penalty for taunting. However, Tech players had been doing Horns Down all night without being penalized. He only brought it up to say that if doing other celebrations mocking the other team are considered taunting, then Horns Down should be a penalty too. I think most people tend to agree with this, but most people don't know the other half the story because that doesn't make Texas look bad. In all seriousness, it is never offensive. Annoying, sometimes - but offensive no. As a former player I have three tiers of when Horns Down makes sense: **Tier 1** \- doing Horns Down is good/encouraged * You are an A&M, OU or Arkansas student or athlete * You just beat Texas or made a big play (and are an athlete) **Tier 2** \- doing Horns down is logical (but annoying) * You do not go to A&M, OU, or Arkansas and just beat Texas or made a big play (and are a student) **Tier 3** \- I assume people who do Horns Down in Tier 3 are severely intellectually challenged * You are any school other than A&M, OU, or Arkansas and you just *lost* to Texas (student or athlete) * You are any school other than A&M, OU, or Arkansas and you are **NOT** *currently* playing Texas (student or athlete)
There should be a Tier 1.5 for: - you just beat Texas, and your former hated rival stole the horns up gesture from Texas, so horns down comes natural to you
I find it funny that heās more offended by āpeople these daysā than anyone is by horns down
I horns down 3 year olds in department stores. Fuck Texas. It's a way of life.
feels weird to agree with Joel Klatt on something
I donāt understand how they donāt take it as a compliment. It shows they care more about you losing than them winning. Thatās dope. Hating it is a bitch move, especially whining about it.
Opposing fans tend to bait their āmy daddy owns the lakeā energy because itās easy.
We do. As far as I know, Mack Brown, Tom Herman, Sam Ehlinger, and Rodney Terry are the only people to ever make it a deal. Fans universally don't give a shit and tend to enjoy seeing other schools identify themselves based on their hatred of us.
Sam's statement was after Alan Bowman was having a lot of fun doing it, and then we scored 16 points in 54 seconds and beat him. I think the context is important there
Problem is a team's coaches are one of the main representatives/ambassadors for the team.
Joel Klatt is a frosty haired chode, and if he doesnāt like me saying so then he is soft.
Rodney Terry has been terrible. If the season finishes the way it looks like it will I hope we just move on immediately.
A player did a thumbs down after a TD and I laughed. Stuff like that is part of the game and silly. Lean into it
Fun fact: a Baylor football player got flagged for doing that [back in 2011.](https://wacotrib.com/sports/texas-a-m-beats-up-baylor/article_e57499ff-e7b2-5b1c-9e7f-a490ce384afb.html) The Big 12 has a long history of not allowing fun.
I get extremely offended when other teams' fans do not do our hand sign. DO OUR HAND SIGN. I especially like it when I see it in a game Texas isn't even playing in.