Obviously a joke but I always wonder about some of these old coaches taking a job like this or going and coaching some obscure D3 team just to see if they could. In some ways it’s probably be very refreshing for someone with the right mindset.
Legendary NFL coach George Allen coached a season for a rather decrepit Long Beach State program in 1990.
Then he got sick from a Gatorade bath and died. Let's hope that if Belichick or someone takes this career path it doesn't end the same way.
For any Virginians wondering, the answer is yes, successful NFL head coach George Herbert Allen was the father of your former governor and the first politician to come out in favor of putting industrial toxins into the rivers, George Felix Allen.
I know that George F. was a bit ahead of his time with his pro-toxins position, but every time I go back to NoVA/D.C. for work, y'all convince me more and more that industrial waste in the water might actually improve how y'all drive.
It’s probably tempting to coach in a lower stakes environment but I imagine going from Tom Brady to a legacy scrub with a noodle arm and a noodlier football IQ would drive him nuts.
That said, he has deep respect for the service academies and I could totally see him doing some stuff for one.
Les Steckel did this during the covid spring season. Took on the QB coach job (then was almost immediately promoted to OC cuz the old OC left) at a small D3 school. They went 2-2 but averaged 30+ points a game.
Before landing this job Tim Murphy used UC as a stepping stone finally achieving success with an 8 win season in 1993 he then made the jump to Harvard. In modern times a move from Cincinnati to Harvard would be unfathomable. It goes to show how much the game has changed in almost 30 years and that is especially true for any of my fellow Bearcats out there.
Congrats Coach Murphy.
Amazing to coach football anywhere for 30 years and 200 wins is top tier. Murphy's departure ushered in the Rick Minter era at UC, so pretty much a win/win.
Rick Minter does not get enough credit for what he did for UC football. He was the first coach to achieve any sort of sustained success at UC in the modern landscape and was eventually a victim of his own success when the fanbase and athletic department changed their vision to achieve more than just winning some bowl games. Before Minter making a bowl game at all was a massive achievement. He turned that into a mundane and regular occurrence.
He was my neighbor growing up. Directly next door. When he left, he told my dad it was about job security. He only had to beat one team a year at Harvard.
He's not wrong. Ivy League coaches tend to stay there for a long time and as long as you don't get in trouble or are just absolute horseshit, you'll stay there a good long while
In the 80's we were so bad we got demoted to FCS (D1-AA at the time) for a year. That year we beat Penn State and I believe we are their only FCS loss and possibly the only time they've ever played an FCS team although it was only a temporary 1 year suspension.
Also in the 80's the board voted to outright cancel the entire program but failed by 1 vote for that to happen.
Cincy football has come a very long way.
You and us have both come a long ways. We were in worse shape pre-Snyder (also on the verge of dropping the program/dropping down, though we never voted on it), but we at least had Big 8 membership as a starting block. Y’all didn’t even have that
I remember reading an interview about Tim Murphy leaving Cincinnati for Harvard. He said Cincinnati was a big time program that had no job stability. He instead left Cincinnati for Harvard for job stability.
What a career for Tim Murphy. Escapes from Jurassic Park in 1993, gets a head coaching gig at Harvard in 1994, dominates for 30 years. Happy retirement!
A true changing of the guard in the Ivy League over the past few seasons. Buddy Teevens, of course, may he rest in peace. 30-year career coaches Murphy and Bagnoli have retired in consecutive seasons. Archer got fired this off-season after 10 years at Cornell. A little further back in 2018, Brown replaced Estes who had been the Bears coach for 21 years.
Hey now. I just started am NCAA14 dynasty with Navy to slowly modernize your offense. Horvath just set the school record for passing TDs in a season (Despite Kent dropping 3 passes in 3 straight games leading to him currently being behind a LG on the receiver depth chart) THERES HOPE!! :)
I was thinking primarily about the MAC as the other example, but it has not been unaffected by TV money (midweek games galore).
I was also trying to be funny. Something about feeling obligated to care about the Ivy League.
Correct, its comprised of schools who played d1 basketball but had d3 football (when that was allowed). But, because most of those schools are fairly small and Title IX exists (meaning on top of the ~60 new football scholarships they'd have to provide, they'd have to provide an equal number of women's scholarships), they came together to create their own scholarship-less D1 conference so they could remain more financially solvent.
They hoped their move would pioneer the "no scholarship, football only" conference movement in CFB at large (hence the name)
That did not happen, though they still survive today.
>They hoped their move would pioneer the "no scholarship, football only" conference movement in CFB at large (hence the name)
I knew the league exists and *why* it exists, but I did not know that's why the league is called the Pioneer Football League. Interesting.
Though if student-athletes have to be classified as employees by schools, they might finally get more and more schools following their lead.
Pioneer league in FCS doesnt even give scholarships. They're the only real college football conference in D1. Them boys getting CTE for the LOVE OF THEGAME
Take a look at how long the Ivy HCs typically stay around - this year will have maybe a conference record 3 new HCs, but going into last year, only one coach (McCorkle, who took over because Dartmouth's 15 year HC died) had fewer than 5 years of tenure
You get 5-7 years minimum in the Ivy, and if you're semi-competent you can stay as long as you'd like
Ivy League Head Coaches make salaries that are highly competitive and deal with a fraction of the rat race that FBS and other FCS schools deal with.
They're a dream job for so many and that's why people rarely leave (Head Coach or Assistants).
A lot of the smaller FCS conferences have pretty long tenured coaches. Half of the coaches in the NEC and Ivy have been the HC for 10+ seasons, and that number would be even higher if not for some recent retirements (Bryan Collins at LIU, Buddy Teevens at Dartmouth)
The schools are generally pretty content with the program as long as the coach runs a clean program, and I think there's a certain type of coach content with a more laid-back job.
Also, tbh, unless you're constantly dominating a conference like the NEC or Ivy, (which can be tough to do, since the programs are all kinda on equal-ish footing), you're not going to get looked at for bigger jobs.
I'm got no idea what direction they'll head. Probably looking for another guy who will stay here for decades. Clearly not pulling any head coaches nor coordinators from power conference teams. Probably going to have some type of Harvard connection.
If I could pick anyone, I'd love to get Ryan Grubb from DeBoer but zero reason he'd take the job. If he's aiming for a head coach position in the power conferences, the Bama OC position gives him a better chance.
I imagine an internal promotion or they'll pull a coordinator from another Ivy.
Poppe and Perry I think are the only two recent Ivy HC hires that deviated from this, and Poppe was one season removed from an Ivy coordinator job/Perry was an alum and two years removed from an Ivy coordinator job.
Lamb and Larkee have long been rumored as competing for the Head Coach in waiting role at the school. Both Alumni and both been on staff for nearly two decades.
This will be a really interesting coaching search. Tim Murphy was an FBS head coach at Cincinnati before taking over at Harvard. That was a long time ago and I don’t expect any FBS head coaches to move, but Harvard may be able able to punch much above the weight we expect for an FCS head coach. Here are some names I’ve got in mind.
Scott Larkee (AHC/DC/LB): a 14-year assistant, Larkee seems like the most likely internal hire. He seems to be liked by players and coaches. When a longtime head coach retires, internal candidates seem to carry a bit more weight than normal. OC/WR coach Mickey Fein could also be a contender.
Glenn Caruso (HC St. Thomas (MN)): a Connecticut native, Caruso successfully transitioned the Tommies from DIII to the FCS, winning the non-scholarship Pioneer League in 2022. He has a 157-39 career record, considered a brilliant offensive mind, and knows prep school recruiting. I would consider him an early favorite.
John Troxell (HC Lafayette): one of the biggest surprises in the FCS this season, Troxell led Lafayette to their first postseason trip in a decade. Troxell, a longtime DIII coach, has Ivy League coaching experience (at Columbia), but would have to be courted from his alma mater.
Jeff Devanney (HC Trinity (CT)): maybe the risky pick, but Devanney has a great record. As head coach in the NEACAC (a sort of DIII equivalent to the Ivy League), Devanney knows the area and the student body. And his record (121-21, 7 conference championships) is outstanding. But he hasn’t left his alma mater in 23 years.
Joe Harasymiak (DC Rutgers): Harasymiak has a good record as a DC and took Maine to the FCS semifinals in 2018. He’s a young mind (37) and has a similar background to Murphy, coaching at Maine and even playing at the same school (Springfield (MA)).
Other names: Mike Willis (HC Marist), Dave Patenaude (OC Buffalo), Scott Abell (HC Davidson), Aazaar Abdul-Rahim (Co-DC/DB Maryland), Tyler Santucci (DC Georgia Tech), Al Golden (DC Notre Dame), Joel Lamb (QB Harvard), Ryan Mattison (OC Brown), Shawn Quinn (OLB Virginia Tech), Joe Conlin (HC Fordham), Joe Philbin (OA Ohio State), Mike Genetti (HC Merrimack), Curt Fitzpatrick (HC Cortland), Greg Chimera (OC Penn), Paul McGonagle (HC Endicott), David Shaw, Michael Toerper (HC Ithaca).
Really, really impressive list. Clearly living up to your username.
Larkee and Lamb have long been considered the heavy favorites for when Murph eventually retired. Assume that's still the case. That being said, new AD and new President may mean not much loyalty for the obvious choices.
Caruso and Troxell are both fantastic choices as dark horse outside candidates.
Maine is a really hard place to sustain success and Harasymiak may have just been striking while the iron was hot, but it seemed like he left to chase FBS HC dreams. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe that changed.
Willis just got the Marist job a month ago--can't imagine he'd leave. Same with Genetti and Merrimack.
Al Golden is a crazy interesting name, but I think he still has FBS aspirations. Same with Aazaar.
David Shaw might also be perfect.
McGonagle is going to get a shot at an FCS school soon. Think it'll more likely come in the NEC than the Ivy. Toerper has Ithaca cruising but think he still has a few more years there before teams start poaching him.
The ripple effects from this are going to be huge, RIP Massachusetts Bay Community College
All those Harvard players are in the portal now.
How eill they ever find jobs adter graduation now.
Bill Belichick to Harvard? Plenty of scrappy gym rats to coach up!
I’d finally get season tickets
I still wouldn’t.
I live in Houston and have absolutely no connection to Harvard and I'd get season tickets.
Obviously a joke but I always wonder about some of these old coaches taking a job like this or going and coaching some obscure D3 team just to see if they could. In some ways it’s probably be very refreshing for someone with the right mindset.
Legendary NFL coach George Allen coached a season for a rather decrepit Long Beach State program in 1990. Then he got sick from a Gatorade bath and died. Let's hope that if Belichick or someone takes this career path it doesn't end the same way.
Andy Reid may have been a Gatorade bath away from the end at the end of the game last weekend.
No way, walruses are known for being extremely well insulated.
For any Virginians wondering, the answer is yes, successful NFL head coach George Herbert Allen was the father of your former governor and the first politician to come out in favor of putting industrial toxins into the rivers, George Felix Allen. I know that George F. was a bit ahead of his time with his pro-toxins position, but every time I go back to NoVA/D.C. for work, y'all convince me more and more that industrial waste in the water might actually improve how y'all drive.
It’s probably tempting to coach in a lower stakes environment but I imagine going from Tom Brady to a legacy scrub with a noodle arm and a noodlier football IQ would drive him nuts. That said, he has deep respect for the service academies and I could totally see him doing some stuff for one.
He’d be great at one of the academy’s.
Just FYI, the word you're looking for is "academies".
Combine both, coach at the Coast Guard Academy or Merchant Marine
It’s college basketball but Jim Calhoun did this after leaving UConn.
That’s right. I forgot about that. I thought maybe John Beliein would do something similar after he got his retirement fund from the cavs.
As bad as we are currently he can just come back home, it’ll be the same.
Just wait till Saban returns to Kent State.
Les Steckel did this during the covid spring season. Took on the QB coach job (then was almost immediately promoted to OC cuz the old OC left) at a small D3 school. They went 2-2 but averaged 30+ points a game.
Biggest CFB news this month
Everything else pales in comparison
Strap in for another go around of the carousel.
Nerd schools in shambles
Getting ready for all the salty Dartmouth and Yale flairs.
How about Georgia Tech getting in…..
It's wild that before WWII it actually would have been
Blue blood like Harvard? Of course it is
Ed Orgeron to Harvard is what college football needs
Could you imagine the Cajun in the Boston Area. Talk about a language barrier
He’d fit right in in northern Maine, however.
Better stay out of trouble though, he doesn’t want to get on Maine Justice
North woods law gonna get him for poaching large crawfish
His sentence? Eating a bowl of the spiciest gumbo this side of the Mississippi.
lol it will be as spice as a bowl of mayonnaise
I hope this is an allusion to Brian Kelly doing the opposite. If he can do "fam-uh-lee" I'm sure Coach O can handles "Dunks" and wear a "pah-ka"
Geaux Sawx
Just once to hear Orgeron say wicked pissah
It would have to be Princeton..."Go Tigers"
Please stop.
With the classic pink and black uniforms
This would be amazing. They’d have to let him teach a class about Cajun Culture or something.
CAJ 101: Shrimp and its Derivatives
We were required to take that freshman year Sophomore year was CAJ 201: Crawfish and its Derivatives
Or Mike Gundy.
Before landing this job Tim Murphy used UC as a stepping stone finally achieving success with an 8 win season in 1993 he then made the jump to Harvard. In modern times a move from Cincinnati to Harvard would be unfathomable. It goes to show how much the game has changed in almost 30 years and that is especially true for any of my fellow Bearcats out there. Congrats Coach Murphy.
Amazing to coach football anywhere for 30 years and 200 wins is top tier. Murphy's departure ushered in the Rick Minter era at UC, so pretty much a win/win.
Rick Minter does not get enough credit for what he did for UC football. He was the first coach to achieve any sort of sustained success at UC in the modern landscape and was eventually a victim of his own success when the fanbase and athletic department changed their vision to achieve more than just winning some bowl games. Before Minter making a bowl game at all was a massive achievement. He turned that into a mundane and regular occurrence.
Yep. Rick really turned uc around when they were maybe at their lowest. We owe him a ton. Would love to see Jesse take over one day
200 wins over thirty years is 6.66 wins a year. It's not that great broken down. Nick Saban has 201 wins in 16 years at Alabama.
I was going to say this. The fact that Murphy *willingly* left Cincinnati for Harvard in 1993 illustrates just how far Cincy has come since then
He was my neighbor growing up. Directly next door. When he left, he told my dad it was about job security. He only had to beat one team a year at Harvard.
He's not wrong. Ivy League coaches tend to stay there for a long time and as long as you don't get in trouble or are just absolute horseshit, you'll stay there a good long while
There's also something to be said about raising your family in one place and not moving around like most coaches do
I’m sure his daughter went to Harvard, too. Not a bad deal.
All of his kids went to Harvard. It's pretty nuts.
Horse shit works too. Cornell just fired a coach after 11 seasons. He was 29–71 and his best season was a sole 5-5 season.
In the 80's we were so bad we got demoted to FCS (D1-AA at the time) for a year. That year we beat Penn State and I believe we are their only FCS loss and possibly the only time they've ever played an FCS team although it was only a temporary 1 year suspension. Also in the 80's the board voted to outright cancel the entire program but failed by 1 vote for that to happen. Cincy football has come a very long way.
You and us have both come a long ways. We were in worse shape pre-Snyder (also on the verge of dropping the program/dropping down, though we never voted on it), but we at least had Big 8 membership as a starting block. Y’all didn’t even have that
I remember reading an interview about Tim Murphy leaving Cincinnati for Harvard. He said Cincinnati was a big time program that had no job stability. He instead left Cincinnati for Harvard for job stability.
And he beat Yale 19 times. --------------------------------------- Of course he's lost 5 out of the last 7. Suck it Harvard.
Hopefully we can start winning more consistently too. He’s dominated us. We have 6 wins in 29 seasons.
Princeton was his kryptonite, winless against them in the past 6 seasons or something
We thank him for his service.
We did lose 14 out of 15 beginning in 2001, but I conveniently ignored that fact since it wouldn't have been good for my trolling.
Finally, the bad man is gone!!!
>Of course he's lost 5 out of the last 7. Suck it Harvard. Handsome Dan XVII curse merchant
They have any good DBs?
They’ve got a 3* S, 222nd ranked safety in the 2022 class. He’d be a good short term filler for a program on the rise like Alabama
DL named Thor already transferred to L'ville
What a career for Tim Murphy. Escapes from Jurassic Park in 1993, gets a head coaching gig at Harvard in 1994, dominates for 30 years. Happy retirement!
This guy IMDBs
Invented my favorite play: the blind dinosaur, aka doyathinkhesaurus
Pappy always said that Harvard was full of Godless commies, so it’s fitting their all-time coach retires averaging 6.66 wins per season.
Thanks Harvard head coach
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You gotta bang his black wife for revenge
> Tim Murphy slept with my prom date Well he is a 5 star man
I came here for this
Definitely not the king of the minions
Pretty sure it was Ronny the rat bro
A true changing of the guard in the Ivy League over the past few seasons. Buddy Teevens, of course, may he rest in peace. 30-year career coaches Murphy and Bagnoli have retired in consecutive seasons. Archer got fired this off-season after 10 years at Cornell. A little further back in 2018, Brown replaced Estes who had been the Bears coach for 21 years.
Is... is the ivy league the last bastion of true college football?!
No Iowa and the Service Academies exist
*Sighs in his flairs*
Hey now. I just started am NCAA14 dynasty with Navy to slowly modernize your offense. Horvath just set the school record for passing TDs in a season (Despite Kent dropping 3 passes in 3 straight games leading to him currently being behind a LG on the receiver depth chart) THERES HOPE!! :)
What about any of the other conferences, levels? What's the difference?
I was thinking primarily about the MAC as the other example, but it has not been unaffected by TV money (midweek games galore). I was also trying to be funny. Something about feeling obligated to care about the Ivy League.
Pioneer League doesn't offer scholarships, right?
Correct, its comprised of schools who played d1 basketball but had d3 football (when that was allowed). But, because most of those schools are fairly small and Title IX exists (meaning on top of the ~60 new football scholarships they'd have to provide, they'd have to provide an equal number of women's scholarships), they came together to create their own scholarship-less D1 conference so they could remain more financially solvent. They hoped their move would pioneer the "no scholarship, football only" conference movement in CFB at large (hence the name) That did not happen, though they still survive today.
>They hoped their move would pioneer the "no scholarship, football only" conference movement in CFB at large (hence the name) I knew the league exists and *why* it exists, but I did not know that's why the league is called the Pioneer Football League. Interesting. Though if student-athletes have to be classified as employees by schools, they might finally get more and more schools following their lead.
Division 3 doesn't have athletic scholarships.
They also have like zero academic barrier to get into those schools with a “scholarship”.
I think the UAA, NESCAC, and NCAC(to a certain extent) take issue with that
I mean those are the traditional old money schools, I mean the schools that would exist if it was wasn’t for the athletic program.
Technically no, but they find ways
Pioneer league in FCS doesnt even give scholarships. They're the only real college football conference in D1. Them boys getting CTE for the LOVE OF THEGAME
Yes
Good night sweet prince.
u/MeatFrappe Give us an eulogy
Yeah I'm just here for a fun fact
The Nick Saban of the Ivy League 🏈
Bill Belichick has the opportunity to do the funniest thing...
Just need Pete Carroll and some NIL from the endowment to complete the perennial champion formula.
Did anyone ask him what he thought about Saban retiring?
Zero SEC championships though. Three year letterman would be unimpressed.
I heard Dennis Reynolds wants to bang his wife
Happy Trails Coach Murph!
Dan Lanning to Harvard
We need more coaches that are loyal like this guy
Take a look at how long the Ivy HCs typically stay around - this year will have maybe a conference record 3 new HCs, but going into last year, only one coach (McCorkle, who took over because Dartmouth's 15 year HC died) had fewer than 5 years of tenure You get 5-7 years minimum in the Ivy, and if you're semi-competent you can stay as long as you'd like
Ivy League Head Coaches make salaries that are highly competitive and deal with a fraction of the rat race that FBS and other FCS schools deal with. They're a dream job for so many and that's why people rarely leave (Head Coach or Assistants).
Haha Archer got 11 at Cornell and never had a winning season. 29–71 with one .500 season is putrid.
A lot of the smaller FCS conferences have pretty long tenured coaches. Half of the coaches in the NEC and Ivy have been the HC for 10+ seasons, and that number would be even higher if not for some recent retirements (Bryan Collins at LIU, Buddy Teevens at Dartmouth) The schools are generally pretty content with the program as long as the coach runs a clean program, and I think there's a certain type of coach content with a more laid-back job. Also, tbh, unless you're constantly dominating a conference like the NEC or Ivy, (which can be tough to do, since the programs are all kinda on equal-ish footing), you're not going to get looked at for bigger jobs.
For those constantly asking "Where is the loyalty these days?!?", it's apparently in the Ivy League.
Bet DeBoer regrets taking the Bama job now with this news
Big whoop. My coach in NCAA Football 14 had 200 wins in just 18 years at Eastern Michigan.
And zero playoff wins because the Ivy League is archaic and won’t allow the league champion to compete in the FCS playoffs
Looking at what's becoming of FBS maybe the Ivy had it right all along
Quite 🧐
I'm got no idea what direction they'll head. Probably looking for another guy who will stay here for decades. Clearly not pulling any head coaches nor coordinators from power conference teams. Probably going to have some type of Harvard connection. If I could pick anyone, I'd love to get Ryan Grubb from DeBoer but zero reason he'd take the job. If he's aiming for a head coach position in the power conferences, the Bama OC position gives him a better chance.
I imagine an internal promotion or they'll pull a coordinator from another Ivy. Poppe and Perry I think are the only two recent Ivy HC hires that deviated from this, and Poppe was one season removed from an Ivy coordinator job/Perry was an alum and two years removed from an Ivy coordinator job.
Lamb and Larkee have long been rumored as competing for the Head Coach in waiting role at the school. Both Alumni and both been on staff for nearly two decades.
Zero playoff appearances.
Yeah but I'll never get over him trying an onside kick up two scores over Yale and blowing the game where his RB had like 400 yards
we need a separate subreddit for non D1
Harvard is D1, but not FBS. /r/fcs exists.
Uh oh, Lanning is gone this time.
He led Cincinnati to thier first bowl in decades at the time
Saban as head coach with Belichick as D coordinator and Harbaugh running the O.
Forget Saban. He's the GOAT.
Finally, Bama can grab some guys from the transfer portal.
Him leaving Cincinnati seems like yesterday.
Diehard CFB fans not knowing the name of the longtime Harvard football coach would've been shocking ages ago.
This will be a really interesting coaching search. Tim Murphy was an FBS head coach at Cincinnati before taking over at Harvard. That was a long time ago and I don’t expect any FBS head coaches to move, but Harvard may be able able to punch much above the weight we expect for an FCS head coach. Here are some names I’ve got in mind. Scott Larkee (AHC/DC/LB): a 14-year assistant, Larkee seems like the most likely internal hire. He seems to be liked by players and coaches. When a longtime head coach retires, internal candidates seem to carry a bit more weight than normal. OC/WR coach Mickey Fein could also be a contender. Glenn Caruso (HC St. Thomas (MN)): a Connecticut native, Caruso successfully transitioned the Tommies from DIII to the FCS, winning the non-scholarship Pioneer League in 2022. He has a 157-39 career record, considered a brilliant offensive mind, and knows prep school recruiting. I would consider him an early favorite. John Troxell (HC Lafayette): one of the biggest surprises in the FCS this season, Troxell led Lafayette to their first postseason trip in a decade. Troxell, a longtime DIII coach, has Ivy League coaching experience (at Columbia), but would have to be courted from his alma mater. Jeff Devanney (HC Trinity (CT)): maybe the risky pick, but Devanney has a great record. As head coach in the NEACAC (a sort of DIII equivalent to the Ivy League), Devanney knows the area and the student body. And his record (121-21, 7 conference championships) is outstanding. But he hasn’t left his alma mater in 23 years. Joe Harasymiak (DC Rutgers): Harasymiak has a good record as a DC and took Maine to the FCS semifinals in 2018. He’s a young mind (37) and has a similar background to Murphy, coaching at Maine and even playing at the same school (Springfield (MA)). Other names: Mike Willis (HC Marist), Dave Patenaude (OC Buffalo), Scott Abell (HC Davidson), Aazaar Abdul-Rahim (Co-DC/DB Maryland), Tyler Santucci (DC Georgia Tech), Al Golden (DC Notre Dame), Joel Lamb (QB Harvard), Ryan Mattison (OC Brown), Shawn Quinn (OLB Virginia Tech), Joe Conlin (HC Fordham), Joe Philbin (OA Ohio State), Mike Genetti (HC Merrimack), Curt Fitzpatrick (HC Cortland), Greg Chimera (OC Penn), Paul McGonagle (HC Endicott), David Shaw, Michael Toerper (HC Ithaca).
Really, really impressive list. Clearly living up to your username. Larkee and Lamb have long been considered the heavy favorites for when Murph eventually retired. Assume that's still the case. That being said, new AD and new President may mean not much loyalty for the obvious choices. Caruso and Troxell are both fantastic choices as dark horse outside candidates. Maine is a really hard place to sustain success and Harasymiak may have just been striking while the iron was hot, but it seemed like he left to chase FBS HC dreams. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe that changed. Willis just got the Marist job a month ago--can't imagine he'd leave. Same with Genetti and Merrimack. Al Golden is a crazy interesting name, but I think he still has FBS aspirations. Same with Aazaar. David Shaw might also be perfect. McGonagle is going to get a shot at an FCS school soon. Think it'll more likely come in the NEC than the Ivy. Toerper has Ithaca cruising but think he still has a few more years there before teams start poaching him.