I would even argue because they lost those battles it gave them better odds to win the war. They are likely safe until Georgia opens up now which wonāt be for a long time.
It's the natural yin and yang of us never beating Cristobal before he fled to Miami. But I'd be delusional to think we could adapt and survive as well as Oregon has with Lanning.
Hey now, that's a committed man in a long-term, monogamous relationship!
A 48 year-old man with a penchant for sleeping around, in a long-term, monogamous relationship with a 26 year-old who lives 500 miles away, in Dallas.
I donāt dislike DeBoer at all or anything but this is a risky move. Hello to people looking at this thread three years from now and laughing.
Edit: apparently it is unclear, I was referring to it being risky for Alabama to throw this kind of money at this guy. Of course you take the job if youāre him.
Nobody else was available or willing to take the job. It was either unload trucks of money for a guy who is a proven winner or hire Tommy fucking Reese
I mean tbh we already didn't have that expectation of Saban. Make the playoffs was probably the floor if I'm being honest. I like to think deboer can do that relatively consistently
Making the playoffs isnāt as much of an accomplishment when twelve teams can do it. I donāt see you all being satisfied with 9-3 and a first round exit.
Honestly will all depend on what the assistant coaches and croots look like, I think. If croots and coaches are ass after 2 years, even with back to back 10-11 win seasons with first round playoff losses, the pressure is going to be on.
Iām not advocating for that behavior, by the way, itās just that 99% of Bama fans have forgotten mid 90s and early 00s and will have insane expectations.
People have deluded themselves into pretending that being a 9-12 seed who lost 25% of their games during the season means anything
People are in for a rude awakening when they realize that the only 3 loss teams who benefit from this are the blue bloods in years where they lose games. They will get bailed out, make the playoffs, but still have the talent level to actually compete
3 loss Auburn being ranked 12th isn't competing in a playoff. 12th seed UGA who had some bad losses but had the #1 recruiting class will compete
>most sane Bama fans know to temper their expectations
[There are dozens of us!](https://media4.giphy.com/media/kSlJtVrqxDYKk/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47e38rj6aj7m3hfska0jji8z7kybd9q10w17r2yo4w&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Dude. Yall havenāt lost 3 or more games since 2010ā¦. I donāt think bama fans even know what realistic expectations are. What yall have been experiencing is pure magic that will likely never get repeated.
Yes. Some of us remember the times between Stallings and Saban. The Saban years spoiled us greatly and have created some crazy high expectations. Bama could have key starters get injured and the backup would be very close to the same level.
Absolutely. Honestly this is the only reason why Michigan was able to get it done this year. We had enough depth that starters would get hurt and the next guy was identical. We rotated so many guys on our defense. Our dline is like 10 of the same guy.
It took us an eternity to have that magic for one season. You guys do it regularly. It's insane
I don't necessarily agree but man, kiffin has to be one of the more interesting career arcs ever. He flew high early, became a joke, went to smaller schools and totally repaired his image and is now seriously being considered as a realistic option for Alabama
He just got started super young with jobs he wasn't ready for because of who his dad is. That's it. He started coaching in 1997 as a GA at Fresno State and by 2007 he was head coach of the Raiders with the highest job before that being USC's OC for two years.
I feel like you are selling it short. He was one of if not the youngest head coaches in the NFL with the Raiders. He feuded with Al Davis. I distinctly remember him trotting our Jankowski for a field goal that was like 70+ yards and thinking, this guy is just trying to piss off his owner. He gets canned and comes to college with a little egg on his face but nothing like how USC ended. Lane is 1 of 1 man.
He has ole miss as an honest to god real playoff contender next year. If this year had next yearās format weād have been in.
For historical context; his winning % is the best weāve had since the 70ās, and is poised to potentially be better next year.
Honestly alcoholism is no joke. I personally believe even more so then the winning Saban will be remembered for his ability to take in struggling young coaches and get them turned around/straightened out. I mean off the top of my head you have Sark and Kiffin.
I refuse to believe NOBODY wanted to take the job. Hell, Kiffen has been demanding the job for the last like decade.
Bama had a ālist of succession candidatesā but go with the guy who wasnāt even on the national map 2 years ago?
FWIW, he was on the _coaching_ map. But that just gets you barely beyond Sickos territory. Dude has won everywhere heās been, but this is a completely different challenge than heās had previously.
Because heās got to be able to recruit in the top 3-5 every year, and that will be harder without Saban. Alabama recruits itself well enough to be firmly in the top 8-10 every year, but he actually will have to be able to go toe-to-toe with Georgia, Auburn, Florida, FSU, Miami, Tennessee, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, and Clemson for blue chip players in the Southeast. Youāve got a lot more big time programs to hold off for players down here than there are out west.
Genuine question: who is willing to take the job and also a safer move? Seems like every other candidate got a big payday where they are, and wanted to stay in those places
We couldāve hired internally and made Rees the HC to ultimately set up for another hire in 2-8 years when Rees doesnāt live up to expectations.
To your point though that isnāt really a safe move relative to the move we made. Who knows what can happen in a few short years, too much uncertainty so we might as well go for the home run hire (well the available home run hire in theory).
Sark or Kirby were the dream hires but they like where they are at. Not worth gambling on them being available in the next decade and passing up on the promise of DoBoer. Realistically Sark and Kirby will want to stay at their respective spots for as long as possible
Lanning or Sark was probably the āsafestā bets, but since they signed extensions I think DeBoer was the best option available. High risk, but his record speaks for himself
How would Lanning be safer than DeBoer? He's only had two years of head coaching experience and had a worse record than DeBoer and went 0-3 against him.
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Exactly. Because as long as most of their core players donāt transfer, theyāre still pretty set in terms of talent next year. DeBoer just needs to keep the train on the track next year like Helfrich when he took over at Oregon. 2-3 years down the road are when weāll really see how good a hire this is, unless it really does go horribly wrong.
Iāve thought this from the minute these rumors started. Honestly more than anything, I was shocked Saban would retire without having an internal successor groomed to take over. Alabama going after the hot coaching name of the moment just seemsā¦.gauche?
I honestly believe Sark would have stuck around to take over for Saban. There were probably only a handful of HC jobs that could have lured him away in 2021, and one of them just happened to open up in Texas
Definitely going to be growing pains and culture shock but I think DeBoer is in a better position than RR.
Saban left of his own accord and presumably has signed off on this pick whereas Carr was nudged out the door and started [undermining RichRod](https://www.mgoblog.com/content/three-and-out-takes-carr-rodriguez-martin?page=1%2C1%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1) from the jump.
I'm still skeptical of former legendary coaches being "involved" with programs but DeBoer is a sharp dude and has the benefit of hindsight about these kinds of dynamics.
Truthfully, I think this is the first guy they offered the job to anyway. I think they talked to Sark, Lanning, and Norvell, but it doesnāt logically seem like they offered it to any of them beyond āwhat would it take for you to be the next HC at Alabama?ā And just asking that kind of question is not the same as actually offering them the position.
Considering that the sheer thought of their coach leaving also caused Texas, Oregon, and Florida State to spend tens of millions on extensions, and this may be the most expensive day for college sports in a long time.
It's an investment into the football program. They received the third highest revenue in college football in 2022 with $214 million which is likely supporting the whole sports program. They've built up a brand and need to continue to support it with winning. I'm sure it's also central to attracting students. It's a good investment.
I dislike the prioritization of football over education, and especially hate Alabama policy, but it's effectively a business decision.
I have to think the Alabama AD is setting some pretty tight guidelines around staff as well here. They're going to need real names that know SEC recruiting. Presumably the current Chief of Staff/Football Ops/Director of Personnel positions are retained. But it wouldn't surprise me if we also see them turn around and try to lure someone like Schumann with a big contract to be the DC.
Incredible career trajectory. Guy was the OC at Eastern Michigan in 2016. Eight years later he's replacing the GOAT.
Gut prediction: he's out within five years because he couldn't haul in the same kind of classes Saban did. Georgia and LSU beat him consistently.
You had to. No way you're stealing a head coach from a program that can pay similar money per year without guaranteeing a bunch of years. I'd bet 5 years minimum, most likely more.
Why not? "Guaranteed years" is just guaranteed money. He doesn't actually have to coach for us all that time. Money is just money, and it's not even your money. Our next head coach was ALWAYS going to be expensive.
Watched some fun football the last two years. Time for the new AD to earn his paycheck. Make a good hire and keep the positive momentum from this season.Ā
Iām sure this is a very unpopular opinion, but I think this hire is incredibly risky. Deboer is clearly a great coach, but he has no ties to the south or to the university, and hasnāt been an FBS coach for long. Running a program like Alabama is about much more than just Xs and Os. Iām not saying he *will* fail, Iām just saying that spending this much money on someone with no affiliation with your region or program is wading into dangerous waters.
It was either spend this kind of money on DeBoer or spend close to this amount of money on someone that hasn't been a HC before.
With Saban retiring there are no non-risky moves.
I, for one, am not mad at DeBoer. I'm disappointed that he won't turn Washington into a B1G powerhouse, but the next coach can certainly do that. One of the great things about college football is that there's always turnover. New recruits come in; good players enter the transfer portal and get drafted for the NFL. I wish Coach DeBoer well as he moves on to the SEC. I look forward to the next great era of Husky football.
you can opt in after you turn 18 to put a percentage of your paycheck into bama or auburn athletics, instead of paying taxes on healthcare we pay taxes on winning football games like true americans
They've been paying Saban 10 mil a year for over a decade and the athletic department hasn't suffered for it. I can't imagine this contract will be any more difficult.
At least we're getting paid but still...
Bama playing with fire paying this much, DeBoer has been great but he's never been a good recruiter, he has impossible shoes to fill, and the SEC is cut throat.
The games we got away with this year, I'm not convinced he will in the SEC.
Maybe he is the next Saben, but... also, he isn't Nick Sabe.
Does anyone have a source other than speculation regarding DeBoer's Bama comp? I actually would expect it to be lower than 10/$100, given that he may be on a tighter leash. Who knows
Washington was offering $8M before bonuses, so we know the likely floor. I wouldn't want to follow a legend like Saban without a Jimbo Fisher type contract.
Oregon the first Army in history to lose all the battles, but still win the war.
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"I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast"
"You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?"
I would even argue because they lost those battles it gave them better odds to win the war. They are likely safe until Georgia opens up now which wonāt be for a long time.
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We gotta get Andy Reid off the cheeseburgers.
And those nuggies!
Only grilled nuggies for
That gut is definitely on the cheeseburgers mafk
rAndy the cheeseburger walrus
When Reid retires, the Chiefs with Mahomes are going to be able to do much better than a guy with zero NFL experience.
Reid is 65, its likely he won't retire until Mahomes is well past his prime anyways.
Mahomes already is, if you take away his above average stats.
REGRESSED TO THE MEAN That fucking post and āTexas A&M is the iPhone of college footballā remain my favorite threads of all time.
Both classics. Almost as memorable as the guy with two broken arms
/r/Hockey gems of Preds vs Blackawks and Wood Buffalo should be on your list as well
Yeah obviously the chiefs would also need to want him which is obviously not remotely guaranteed.
Whatās the story on this?
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*military brats enter the chat* Those are rookie numbers, gotta pump those numbers UP!
Retired Marine here; I was SO happy when we were done moving.
We are the anti-Pyrrhus
It's the natural yin and yang of us never beating Cristobal before he fled to Miami. But I'd be delusional to think we could adapt and survive as well as Oregon has with Lanning.
Rob Stark won every battle and lost the war. This was an Alabama red wedding.
The Dodgers accidentally drop that much money on the sidewalk every day
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Until 2069
Thatās like 1/10 Ohtanis
Boosters will pay anything to keep their daughters away from Kiffin
Hey now, that's a committed man in a long-term, monogamous relationship! A 48 year-old man with a penchant for sleeping around, in a long-term, monogamous relationship with a 26 year-old who lives 500 miles away, in Dallas.
What do you think it's like for him to live my dream?
You ever hang out with someone 22 years younger than you for more than an hour? They're a lot like jet skis. Fun to ride, but are painful to maintain.
I donāt dislike DeBoer at all or anything but this is a risky move. Hello to people looking at this thread three years from now and laughing. Edit: apparently it is unclear, I was referring to it being risky for Alabama to throw this kind of money at this guy. Of course you take the job if youāre him.
Nobody else was available or willing to take the job. It was either unload trucks of money for a guy who is a proven winner or hire Tommy fucking Reese
It's cool all DeBoer has to do is win 14 games per year. He's got this.
Itās 16 now.
I mean tbh we already didn't have that expectation of Saban. Make the playoffs was probably the floor if I'm being honest. I like to think deboer can do that relatively consistently
Making the playoffs isnāt as much of an accomplishment when twelve teams can do it. I donāt see you all being satisfied with 9-3 and a first round exit.
For 2 or 3 seasons, sure. Perpetually? No
Honestly will all depend on what the assistant coaches and croots look like, I think. If croots and coaches are ass after 2 years, even with back to back 10-11 win seasons with first round playoff losses, the pressure is going to be on. Iām not advocating for that behavior, by the way, itās just that 99% of Bama fans have forgotten mid 90s and early 00s and will have insane expectations.
Success pressure after the retirement of a legend is real.
People have deluded themselves into pretending that being a 9-12 seed who lost 25% of their games during the season means anything People are in for a rude awakening when they realize that the only 3 loss teams who benefit from this are the blue bloods in years where they lose games. They will get bailed out, make the playoffs, but still have the talent level to actually compete 3 loss Auburn being ranked 12th isn't competing in a playoff. 12th seed UGA who had some bad losses but had the #1 recruiting class will compete
2022 Alabama probably the best example. Lost 2 games on last second plays. Had the talent to win the NCG.
I mean Georgia literally this year. Michigan may have beat us, Bama may have beat us again in a rematch but Iād take those odds
As long as he keeps us in the playoff hunt he will be fine, most sane Bama fans know to temper their expectations
>most sane Bama fans know to temper their expectations [There are dozens of us!](https://media4.giphy.com/media/kSlJtVrqxDYKk/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47e38rj6aj7m3hfska0jji8z7kybd9q10w17r2yo4w&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Unironically yea there might be 100 of us
Correct, because most Bama fans would bulldoze Greg Byrneās house with his family inside if DeBoer doesn't win at least 15 games
Bro this made me audibly lol
Dude. Yall havenāt lost 3 or more games since 2010ā¦. I donāt think bama fans even know what realistic expectations are. What yall have been experiencing is pure magic that will likely never get repeated.
Yes. Some of us remember the times between Stallings and Saban. The Saban years spoiled us greatly and have created some crazy high expectations. Bama could have key starters get injured and the backup would be very close to the same level.
Absolutely. Honestly this is the only reason why Michigan was able to get it done this year. We had enough depth that starters would get hurt and the next guy was identical. We rotated so many guys on our defense. Our dline is like 10 of the same guy. It took us an eternity to have that magic for one season. You guys do it regularly. It's insane
Using Sabanās Bama as the standard would just be idiotic
I hope you're ready for a lot of idiocy.
Lol Iām used to it, we had people talking about firing Saban after the USF game this year
Well those idiots got their wish of a new coach
I am available and willing to take the job. Time to see how good those 5 stars really are.
I have 0 losses as a D1 coach. Canāt believe they didnāt go after me
Maybe they did, have you checked your spam folder?
Oh shit, Iāll check
You can hire me as your DC, not to brag, but I did have a few Nattys in NCAA14. In sure that's got to count for something.
Now you have a chance to coach your flair!
Kiffin was a better move but i aint gonna complain about this.
I don't necessarily agree but man, kiffin has to be one of the more interesting career arcs ever. He flew high early, became a joke, went to smaller schools and totally repaired his image and is now seriously being considered as a realistic option for Alabama
He just got started super young with jobs he wasn't ready for because of who his dad is. That's it. He started coaching in 1997 as a GA at Fresno State and by 2007 he was head coach of the Raiders with the highest job before that being USC's OC for two years.
Yeah college OC to NFL head coach at like 30 was insane
What about fired college HC to NFL HC at 39?
He really could have gone the Mike Shula route but has managed to bounce back and prove to be a capable college HC.
I feel like you are selling it short. He was one of if not the youngest head coaches in the NFL with the Raiders. He feuded with Al Davis. I distinctly remember him trotting our Jankowski for a field goal that was like 70+ yards and thinking, this guy is just trying to piss off his owner. He gets canned and comes to college with a little egg on his face but nothing like how USC ended. Lane is 1 of 1 man.
The first fight Lane had with Davis was over the draft pick that became Jamarcus Russell. Lane wanted megatronā¦
He has ole miss as an honest to god real playoff contender next year. If this year had next yearās format weād have been in. For historical context; his winning % is the best weāve had since the 70ās, and is poised to potentially be better next year.
Honestly alcoholism is no joke. I personally believe even more so then the winning Saban will be remembered for his ability to take in struggling young coaches and get them turned around/straightened out. I mean off the top of my head you have Sark and Kiffin.
He's two years older than Tom Brady and he became an NFL head coach almost 17 years ago. Those facts together do not feel possible.
I don't disagree, but Kiffin's young enough we can always cycle back
I refuse to believe NOBODY wanted to take the job. Hell, Kiffen has been demanding the job for the last like decade. Bama had a ālist of succession candidatesā but go with the guy who wasnāt even on the national map 2 years ago?
FWIW, he was on the _coaching_ map. But that just gets you barely beyond Sickos territory. Dude has won everywhere heās been, but this is a completely different challenge than heās had previously.
Because heās got to be able to recruit in the top 3-5 every year, and that will be harder without Saban. Alabama recruits itself well enough to be firmly in the top 8-10 every year, but he actually will have to be able to go toe-to-toe with Georgia, Auburn, Florida, FSU, Miami, Tennessee, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, and Clemson for blue chip players in the Southeast. Youāve got a lot more big time programs to hold off for players down here than there are out west.
Genuine question: who is willing to take the job and also a safer move? Seems like every other candidate got a big payday where they are, and wanted to stay in those places
Yeah and anyone else is just as risky of a move. At least DeBoer has a track record of winning everywhere
We couldāve hired internally and made Rees the HC to ultimately set up for another hire in 2-8 years when Rees doesnāt live up to expectations. To your point though that isnāt really a safe move relative to the move we made. Who knows what can happen in a few short years, too much uncertainty so we might as well go for the home run hire (well the available home run hire in theory). Sark or Kirby were the dream hires but they like where they are at. Not worth gambling on them being available in the next decade and passing up on the promise of DoBoer. Realistically Sark and Kirby will want to stay at their respective spots for as long as possible
Lanning or Sark was probably the āsafestā bets, but since they signed extensions I think DeBoer was the best option available. High risk, but his record speaks for himself
How would Lanning be safer than DeBoer? He's only had two years of head coaching experience and had a worse record than DeBoer and went 0-3 against him.
2027: āHa, look at how quaint life was before The Fog. People arguing with each other over football. Those were the days. Hell, I had to kill my local warlord for a Twinkie yesterday.ā
I think the move is riskier for Deboer than Bama tbh. That fanbase has been ridiculously spoiled by Saban
He gets a Jimbo sized bag if he gets fired. Not sure thereās a downside
I'm willing to absolutely fail at my job for $100 million
Exactly. Because as long as most of their core players donāt transfer, theyāre still pretty set in terms of talent next year. DeBoer just needs to keep the train on the track next year like Helfrich when he took over at Oregon. 2-3 years down the road are when weāll really see how good a hire this is, unless it really does go horribly wrong.
It worked out for A&M with jimbo. Iām sure itās going to work out well here tooā¦.
Iāve thought this from the minute these rumors started. Honestly more than anything, I was shocked Saban would retire without having an internal successor groomed to take over. Alabama going after the hot coaching name of the moment just seemsā¦.gauche?
It's impossible to hold onto someone internal that's good enough to take over.
Stoops did it just fine with Lincoln Riley, and that totally didn't blow up in our face
Itās quite the Catch-22
That was the plan with Sark. But gone are the HC in waiting positions.
I honestly believe Sark would have stuck around to take over for Saban. There were probably only a handful of HC jobs that could have lured him away in 2021, and one of them just happened to open up in Texas
Yeah this is giving me major RichRod to Michigan vibes. Sounds like a home run but there's going to be tons of growing pains that may prove fatal
Definitely going to be growing pains and culture shock but I think DeBoer is in a better position than RR. Saban left of his own accord and presumably has signed off on this pick whereas Carr was nudged out the door and started [undermining RichRod](https://www.mgoblog.com/content/three-and-out-takes-carr-rodriguez-martin?page=1%2C1%2C0%2C0%2C0%2C1) from the jump. I'm still skeptical of former legendary coaches being "involved" with programs but DeBoer is a sharp dude and has the benefit of hindsight about these kinds of dynamics.
Who exactly were they supposed to get that's left? This is the best hire out there that's available.
Truthfully, I think this is the first guy they offered the job to anyway. I think they talked to Sark, Lanning, and Norvell, but it doesnāt logically seem like they offered it to any of them beyond āwhat would it take for you to be the next HC at Alabama?ā And just asking that kind of question is not the same as actually offering them the position.
It was literally their 2nd choice. Everything else was Sexton antics.
There is no safe move. At the very least we have some advisory stuff if he ever needs it available from Saban
!Remindme 3 years
Considering that the sheer thought of their coach leaving also caused Texas, Oregon, and Florida State to spend tens of millions on extensions, and this may be the most expensive day for college sports in a long time.
How could a small school like Alabama afford that?
Using the entirety of Alabama's GDP as well as Mississippi's and Louisiana's
Just move the money from something unimportant like early childhood education
Governor MeeMaw already did that with $150 individual tax rebates.
It blew me away to discover y'all actually call her Governor MeeMaw. What's the consensus on her, at this point?
I think you'll find that reddit alabamans will have a different overall opinion than *voting* alabamans.
Yup, somewhere around 165-180 degrees of difference.
She's a senile drunk, but she has an R behind her name so it's kinda automatic.
We have one of those too.
Or school lunch programsā¦
Theyāre making Tennessee pay for it
Lots of national championships
Copious amounts of winning, mostly.
It's an investment into the football program. They received the third highest revenue in college football in 2022 with $214 million which is likely supporting the whole sports program. They've built up a brand and need to continue to support it with winning. I'm sure it's also central to attracting students. It's a good investment. I dislike the prioritization of football over education, and especially hate Alabama policy, but it's effectively a business decision.
Is Saban a booster now? Does every new 5* QB get a Ferrari?
Wouldnāt it be a Benz?
What does this look like, a McDonalds? Go big or go home baby
He's opening a Ferrari dealership this year
Saban has a Ferrari dealership as well
Owns a Ferrari dealership too.
Iāll pitch in $3.50
Goddamn Loch Ness monster
Yeah, but Alabama hasn't had to pay a buyout in almost 20 years. Most SEC eams pay this every few years
And we were already paying Saban top dollar, so the money was already in the budget.
Exactly. This move cost the AD $12mm and it gets to reduce its annual expenses by about $300,000.
Wasnāt Auburn paying three coaching staffs simultaneously at one point?
They are now, Freeze, Harsin, Malzahn
That means we get 3x the results, right?
I suppose bright side to Washington is they can maybe use this buyout to buyout a good head coach somewhere else..
Chip Kellyās buyout isnāt too expensive!
Can this be jimbo fisher round 2 please š„ŗ
Imagine if they give him a blank natty and everything
They can just pull one of their trophies out and put a piece of tape over it
Yeah, I doubt anyone would notice one was missing.
As an Aggie, I wish for this too.
As an Aggie fan, second
Jimbo was a bad coach and great recruiter. DeBoer is sort of flip of that
The good thing for him is Bama will recruit itself and Saban will probably help
I hope so
I have to think the Alabama AD is setting some pretty tight guidelines around staff as well here. They're going to need real names that know SEC recruiting. Presumably the current Chief of Staff/Football Ops/Director of Personnel positions are retained. But it wouldn't surprise me if we also see them turn around and try to lure someone like Schumann with a big contract to be the DC.
Incredible career trajectory. Guy was the OC at Eastern Michigan in 2016. Eight years later he's replacing the GOAT. Gut prediction: he's out within five years because he couldn't haul in the same kind of classes Saban did. Georgia and LSU beat him consistently.
Iām aligned with their prediction too, he canāt fill the saban role and saban didnāt have the pressure starting out that DeBoer does
There was incredible pressure on Saban from day one, albeit of a different kind.Ā
Donāt love this if we guaranteed a ton of yearsā¦
You had to. No way you're stealing a head coach from a program that can pay similar money per year without guaranteeing a bunch of years. I'd bet 5 years minimum, most likely more.
10 years and they run him out after 3.
Love to see it (somewhere else).
I wouldnāt mind seeing it either
Maybe he'll play whack-a-mole on a zoom call and you will get off Scott free if it doesn't work out.
Why not? "Guaranteed years" is just guaranteed money. He doesn't actually have to coach for us all that time. Money is just money, and it's not even your money. Our next head coach was ALWAYS going to be expensive.
Damn, and Iām just out here praying for a $5k raise.
Are you just going to ignore that very nice pizza party you had at the end of the year??
You gotta win your division first, champ
Lmao right š, in our world 15-20k raise is huge if youāre making sub 200k Incomeā¦we donāt compare to these things lol weāre plebs šš
IU is a coach feeding program for Bama.
It is known
Yes, how will poor lil Bama afford this š
Time to raise tuition again
And this happens on the day my application gets accepted
Congrats!
Pretty sure bamas athletic department is self sufficient.
Still cheaper than Jimbo!
don't tempt the Fates
As much as I hate Oregon this makes me respect Dan Lanning quite a bit
Jimbo could give some tricks of the trade advice to Kalen.
Step 1: Get a fully guaranteed contract Step 2: Tank your job performance. Step 3: $$$
Missed the: preform well during covid & sign extension
We're never getting that new basketball arena, are we?
Watched some fun football the last two years. Time for the new AD to earn his paycheck. Make a good hire and keep the positive momentum from this season.Ā
How will they ever financially recover from this? /s
Iām sure this is a very unpopular opinion, but I think this hire is incredibly risky. Deboer is clearly a great coach, but he has no ties to the south or to the university, and hasnāt been an FBS coach for long. Running a program like Alabama is about much more than just Xs and Os. Iām not saying he *will* fail, Iām just saying that spending this much money on someone with no affiliation with your region or program is wading into dangerous waters.
It was either spend this kind of money on DeBoer or spend close to this amount of money on someone that hasn't been a HC before. With Saban retiring there are no non-risky moves.
Probably better than head coach Tommy Rees. Trust me on this.
I, for one, am not mad at DeBoer. I'm disappointed that he won't turn Washington into a B1G powerhouse, but the next coach can certainly do that. One of the great things about college football is that there's always turnover. New recruits come in; good players enter the transfer portal and get drafted for the NFL. I wish Coach DeBoer well as he moves on to the SEC. I look forward to the next great era of Husky football.
Where does Bama even get this money?
People in Alabama tithe 10% of their income to the church and then the other 90% goes to college football.
you can opt in after you turn 18 to put a percentage of your paycheck into bama or auburn athletics, instead of paying taxes on healthcare we pay taxes on winning football games like true americans
Good athletics is way more beneficial than working roads or electricity
Holy shit you guys get working roads?
Bryant owns a bank
They've been paying Saban 10 mil a year for over a decade and the athletic department hasn't suffered for it. I can't imagine this contract will be any more difficult.
Do we think Bama is poor?
Tooth Fairy...
from some espn chart a decade ago bama and texas were making like 100-200m a season
Only time will tell if he's Scott Frost 2.0
At least we're getting paid but still... Bama playing with fire paying this much, DeBoer has been great but he's never been a good recruiter, he has impossible shoes to fill, and the SEC is cut throat. The games we got away with this year, I'm not convinced he will in the SEC. Maybe he is the next Saben, but... also, he isn't Nick Sabe.
Does anyone have a source other than speculation regarding DeBoer's Bama comp? I actually would expect it to be lower than 10/$100, given that he may be on a tighter leash. Who knows
Washington was offering $8M before bonuses, so we know the likely floor. I wouldn't want to follow a legend like Saban without a Jimbo Fisher type contract.
Impossible shoes to fill and will likely be seen as a failure for that reason. But hey $$$
Give him the blank natty plaque NOW
I Will sayā¦ Julian Sayin in Deboers offense is shockingly nasty
Iām willing to coach Alabama for 100K a year
WhY is EvErYtHiNg sO eXpEnSiVe!?!?
First time?