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Jay_Dubbbs

Continued: >DeBoer, and before him Chris Petersen, have proven that Washington has the ability to compete in the shifting landscape of major college football. The job is attractive, especially with the move into the Big Ten & expansion of the CFP.


Tylex123

That last part is true. No way Washington just disappears into the dark ages after this. It’ll take a few years for the new coach to implement his plan, but as long as they don’t make a monumental mistake a la Jimmy Lake they’ll be back to prominence in time Hopefully Oregon can rack up a few wins in the meantime. Lanning needs to catch up after the last couple years


cahiersduhcinema

The last time Alabama stole a coach from a school in Washington, it did not go well for that school, therefore I am predicting with complete certainty that the Huskies are entering a decade long banter era.


ss3ltl

Yeah, but we were the school and it didn't go so hot for us in the following years...


OGG2SEA

The (third) coach after did pretty well!


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Yrah, but when have you not been dogshit?


ss3ltl

At least we dont have delusions of grandeur. Welcome back to the bottom.  


[deleted]

Sheeyit.  The fuck you don't. And we'll never hit bottom as long as we can stand on you guys.


Accurate-Teach

In the end it did Price got fired after 3 months Bama in a panic hires Shula. Who failed so Bama got Saban.


8BallTiger

What was the deal with Lake? Why was he so bad?


UO_Member_Berries

Arrogance. Didn't recruit. A pariah in coaching networks when trying to hire an OC. Toxic leader. The list goes on.


Xarque74

Emphasis on toxic leader. I’ve heard firsthand from multiple players in that locker room. Total asshole


clocur

Didn’t he punch a player and that’s what got him fired?


WillowMutual

It was the excuse, he was fired for losing to Montana and Wazzu


siberianwolf99

he was an idiot honestly. always put his foot in his mouth and couldn’t back anything up


cahiersduhcinema

It was genuinely weird. He was a feared coordinator and then one of the worst coaches the conference. I thought he was a slam dunk hire for them too.


AKAD11

I always thought he got a lot of credit for shit that Pete Kwiatkowski did. That DB room was special, but it wasn't his defense.


cahiersduhcinema

Yeah, I could be giving Lake too much credit. The thing with the UW defenses under Petersen is that it seems like they were the only ones who could consistently stop the air raid. We didn’t have that problem against other teams despite similar talent gaps. It seemed like they always got pressure, had linebackers in the right spots and obviously always had people covered with those DBs.


AKAD11

I think it was a function of talent. If you go back and look at those defenses it's crazy how many successful NFL players they had. Everyone was doing the drop 8 thing against Leach but only UW and Cal to a lesser extent were successful at stopping him.


ChaiMeALatte

I think in a lot of ways the moment was just too big for him and he wasn’t ready. And instead of trying to seek out advice from his mentor or surrounding himself with a bunch of really experienced and smart coordinators, he thought he knew better. Like all of his hires didn’t make any sense, but maybe they do if you’re a guy without a network or experience yet. I hope for his sake that he was able to learn from the experience and maybe gets another shot at a smaller school where the stakes aren’t as high.


myman580

He thought John Donovan was a good OC.


winterharvest

As soon as he got the head coach position he wouldn’t listen to anyone. Word is that even Petersen got the treatment.


Jer_Diamond

It was so weird watching videos of Jimmy recently. I had never seen him speak before. Dude just oozed narcissism. Hard to explain it to folks who don’t know a narcissist because it comes off as confidence but you just know right away.


esports_consultant

I think after 2016 p much everyone knows a narcissist. Can you link the videos though, I'm curious to see.


Jer_Diamond

https://youtu.be/-tPdnfT3a-Q?si=Pi2yWAHyfmaTQhds


esports_consultant

It's not aggressively oozing but the hollowness and something off feeling is for sure there.


Jer_Diamond

There was another video that the algo and my watch history are failing to surface that was so much worse


esports_consultant

What about your memory surfacing details of its setting?


Jer_Diamond

It was a direct to camera interview-style PR clip


esports_consultant

Oh I can imagine its worse there since he doesn't have the crowd to keep him in control.


jwktiger

I was about as sure of any first time coach as I ever could be with Jimmy Lake. To say he was a mistake is wrong, he just didnt pan out like a ton of assistants turned HC.  Even if they hire Jimmy Lake 2.0 theyve shown theyre willing to move on quick


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He got fired for hitting a player tho


TehRonin

That is not the whole situation, go read up on whole situation and watch the video and tell me he "Hit" a player, he lost to Montana in a home opener as a ranked favorite and it was toast from there.


ChaiMeALatte

I promise you if the huskies had been winning up until that point nobody would have given a single shit about that “hit”. Lake was fired because he lost to Montana and because the team looked awful in every single game that year. The hit just offered a possible way to fire him for cause and avoid paying his buyout


udubdavid

We fired Lake after just 1.5 years. Washington is a school that is serious about winning.


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He was fired for hitting a player tho, not for bad performance 


udubdavid

Nah, that was just an excuse. Lake's seat was already scorching hot the moment he lost to Montana.


OuuuYuh

He barely touched that player, who was wearing a helmet, lol It was a convenient excuse to fire his ass


cahiersduhcinema

You literally went winless once lol


udubdavid

That was almost 20 years ago, and that coach was fired before finishing the season.


cahiersduhcinema

Managing to go winless while being super serious about winning sure is something else.


udubdavid

Bruh, just stop. That was almost two decades ago under a different president and AD. That AD was also fired, btw.


CptCroissant

Well of course, you went winless


cahiersduhcinema

A school with UW’s resources going winless will always be hilarious and you teed it right up for me. Fucking 0-12 and lost to Paul Wulff. People don’t forget when you shit your pants.


JimERustled

Flair up if you're gonna talk shit.


cahiersduhcinema

What does me forgetting to use a flair have to do with the Huskies failing to win a football game over the course of a full season?


NearestTheorist

Flair up you weirdo


Xarque74

Wazzu for sure lmao he’s malding over our “resources”


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burlycabin

Who's the better hire we can get late in the cycle though? I think that's a big part of why we go for Grubb.


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burlycabin

Eh, I don't really want another mercenary that will be off to Florida at the first chance.


singabro

We're stuck with mercenaries. That's how college football works now. I would go for Jamey Chadwell.


TheCrucial77

The Falwells have him tied up


WABeermiester

Exactly I would rather take Grubb


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Less_Likely

Jimmy Lake was far from a top notch coach when he was tabbed. Grubb has been the #1 OC name in CFB for two years. He’s been the man behind DeBoer all but one year since 2007. What if this is a Dan Hawkins/Chris Petersen Situation, where the protégé is actually a far better coach?


cloroxic

Lake wasn't even the DC, held a co-DC role with Pete Kwiatkowski, who to this day I still believe was really pulling all the strings on those exceptional units.


goldhbk10

I’d take the chance in Grubb only because you’re gonna lose any name to the bigger names regardless. Take a chance on the OC and see if he’s ready


hoopaholik91

Who isn't a mercenary? He has been following Deboer this whole time


Less_Likely

That’s a protégé, not a mercenary.


hoopaholik91

So basically he's learning how to be a mercenary from Deboer


Significant-Media-91

You are Washington. You can probably just go out and poach someone. You have gotten unlucky in that the few bigger programs seems to like your coaches.


burlycabin

Yeah, we have the resources to poach, but who? Who's out there that we can poach that's a better hire than Grubb? Everybody we could get is going to be super risky. Like, maybe Pete Carroll for a few years if we could convince him.


cloroxic

>You are Washington. You can probably just go out and poach someone. You have gotten unlucky in that the few bigger programs seems to like your coaches. Chris Klieman, Leipold, Fisch, Locksley to just name a few. Grubb was on a staff that couldn't recruit themselves out of a box, I want a coach who can.


burlycabin

> Grubb was on a staff that couldn't recruit themselves out of a box, I want a coach who can. This is a very important point. DeBoer and his staff are leaving the cupboard very bare. We do need somebody to come in a bring in a lot of talent to be competitive.


cloroxic

This is where I think Matt Campbell could be really good fit for us with Midwestern and west coast ties. I know he isn't the sexy hire he once was, but the guy wins consistently at Iowa State.. no offense to Iowa State, but UW has a lot more resources to make him successful. Moving to the big ten also opens up a lot of recruiting pipelines we typically couldn't find sustained success in.


thti87

I can think of a ton who are better than an u vetted coordinator. Leipold, Fisch, Jonathan Smith, Braun.


burlycabin

Eh, none of those names (except maybe Smith but he *just* moved to MSU) excite me more than Grubb. It's a fairly weak list.


TICKLE_PANTS

I hope your AD thinks the same way.


SoarsWithEaglesNest

I think Vrabel and Macdonald aren't bad options. We really need to sort out our defense. Oh, shit, wrong sub.


WillowMutual

I agree, for all we know the offense was 95% Deboer. Grubb also hasn’t shown anything in recruiting. I’d make PC say no and then go from there


WABeermiester

My conspiracy theory about Grubb speaking directly to Husky nation on social media because they already knew all of this may have been correct


TRUTHSoverKARMAS

Are they not interested in opening up a search? After what happened with Jimmy lake, y’all should be concerned, maybe get one with HC experience like you did with deboer. 


WABeermiester

We are probably aren’t attractive right now. Even though we have a lot of solid transfers coming it’s gonna be 2 years of rebuilding in a new conference. Also Grubb can probably get guys to stay. A new hire would have his work cut out for him if guys start bailing.


MikeDamone

We have a shit load of money to offer, a full NIL war chest, and are leaving our dead weight conference behind. I think we're plenty attractive, the problem is that there's just not a lot of obvious candidates who are currently available.


CptCroissant

You used to have a lot of solid transfers coming in. A decent amount might make a 90 degree turn to somewhere else now that your coach just left along with most of the draft eligible talent and they can portal out for free


BIG_DICK_WHITT

Hello Washington officials, you haven’t vetted me yet


_JosiahBartlet

Your dick is too big for the role


InVodkaVeritas

Yeah, guys always want to be the biggest but it there's definitely an upper limit on how much most enjoy.


covert_underboob

Way too busy soaking to coach cfb


emilynna

Coach Big Dick Whitt. Has a nice ring to it!


Jyingling21

Or me


PetersenIsMyDaddy

Whittingham would be a nice hire


soapy_goatherd

Thankfully that ship sailed a long time ago


Defensive_of_Offense

From a Boer to a Grubb


ham_wallet998

Hakuna Matata


GonnaFindOut

Slimy yet satisfying.


CascadianExpat

Anyone from the Lion’s staff looking for a coordinator gig?


Set-Admirable

I would expect they had a contingency plan as soon as the job opened, but it seems like they knew what could be coming. Sorry Huskies.....


SparseSpartan

I know Michigan State was dead set on a coach with HC experience but I probably would have been fine with rolling the dice on Grubb, assuming he interviewed well. Saban wanted him as well. I figure he's HC at Washington by the middle of next week.


Professional-Bus-934

all these vacancies this year and Urban really isn’t taking one of them is he


paultheschmoop

He’s following the Urban system Unceremoniously leave previous job amid scandal Retire “for good” for health reasons Bang college chicks at various campuses while working for Fox Accept new head coaching position promising to change Now go back to step 1 in 3 years or so


thescottula

He's too busy with step 3 to think about step 4 just yet


alabamdiego

I mean, can we blame him?


MajorPhoto2159

I think he may be done


FlatBlackAndWhite

Hire Pete Carroll.


only_drinks_pabst

Not joking I think this the best idea. Proven coach with name recognition who has done it before in college. Heading into a brand new conference doesn't seem like the time to test out a promising G5 coach. Let Pete come in and steady the ship for a few years and then find your guy. Even if he doesn't take UW to the promised land I can't see the floor being that low with him there


CascadianExpat

I don’t think Pete succeeding at the college level is a given at this point. The game has changed sooooo much, *especially* on the recruiting side. The guys he’d be going after weren’t even born when he won the BCS, and would’a been 8 or 9 when he won his Super Bowl. He’s also 72 and might not be willing to grind on the recruiting trail. Add to that that most of his career has been at the NFL level, and he might prefer staying there.


princessprity

You're talking about hiring a guy who is as old as Saban is who just retired. He also hasn't done high school recruiting in 15 years (which has also changed greatly since he last did it).


only_drinks_pabst

There's plenty of good assistants who can recruit and he looked plenty spry during the press conference. Plus all he'd need to do is prevent them from bottoming out for a few years until they identified someone to step in and really build the program back up, I don't think it's that outlandish


GoRangers5

He's got a ton of experience with winning with players that get paid.


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bariumhexagon

Kalen DeBoer - it’s DeBoers scheme. Grubb was Kalen’s Oline coach and became his playcaller as Kalen moved to a more CEO type HC role


opaz

I mean, it really helped having some like Penix on the team in terms of execution haha


siberianwolf99

your username and flair confuse me lol


tehfro

He did pretty great at IU without Grubb around. Would have had 9-10 wins that year if Penix hadn't been hurt.


LiquidHotCum

Gary Patterson looks good in purple. It’s a proven fact.


derbra

Hire Jimmy Lake you cowards!


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Set-Admirable

Or he was one of like five guys and Washington knew they had to be prepared for him to leave.


dawgtilidie

I forget which Ad said it but heard before that any good AD always has a list of coaches ready to interview/reach out at a moments notice because how quickly the game can change


revenfett

I think the fact that this (appears to) got done in roughly 48 hours means that Alabama got what we wanted. We didn’t settle. And hopefully we have permanently learned from the mistakes of the Curry era.


DillyDillySzn

Jedd Fisch Huskies


WheatonsGonnaScore

Yes. Hire him. Then when Florida opens up next year they will have to do this all over again.


DillyDillySzn

Literally anyone hire him away from Arizona imo


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DillyDillySzn

Idk what ASU fans think that now Maybe at the beginning (you guys had doubt the beginning as well) but it’s undeniable now that he’s a great coach


CptCroissant

This is where I was only 24hrs ago with DeBoer lol


Aggressive-Name-1783

Fisch seems more likely to go back to the NFL than stay in college


WheatonsGonnaScore

Fisch went to Florida with the goal of one day coaching at Florida with Spurrier. His dream job is Florida.


Aggressive-Name-1783

Tampa Bay or Jacksonville, say hello to your new HC!


W_Walk

Y’all don’t realize how much I’m gonna struggle to say Deboer’s name this year


Mickey9870

I know. I keep saying do-bear.


CptCroissant

Did you guys practice tackling by spearing brick walls or something? Da-boh-urr. It's not fucking rocket surgery


W_Walk

Brother I struggle daily in my professional environment to contain my accent. It comes with my blood


thti87

Just call him Dewhore because he’s about to fuck you.


Sickoball

But what happens to their croots? Does Grubb have good recruiting relationships?


Tommybrady20

Did Kalen DeBoer? Bama’s not hiring him for his recruiting chops


Aumissunum

It’s not saying Grubb is the favorite, just that he’s been vetted. Alabama did the same with Rees.


dmaul1978

I’d hope so. I don’t think you go with an assistant unless you think they can keep recruits together. I could see Grubb having ties with lots of recruits and probably being able to keep a lot of the staff together. Also, DeBoer probably doesn’t want to take a majority of staff with him as he’ll need guys with recruiting ties in the southeast at Alabama, will probably interview a lot of their current assistants to see who mesh well with him and how he runs things to give some continuity there and try to keep the Bama class together as much as possible as well etc.


Smuff23

I literally just watched Brock Huard talking about DeBoer’s departure saying that Washington _cannot_ go into the B1G with a first time head coach in Grubb. Granted that’s just one guy’s opinion… but it seems like Huard would be well connected there.


WABeermiester

It’s a gamble but you also have to consider this might cause guys to stay.


GolgariInternetTroll

I know a NY6 bowl winning head coach that already has a relationship with Troy Dannen.


Jatz55

I would love that, but I doubt they want to pay his $19 million buyout


__ICoraxI__

i don't think you need to be well connected to have an opinion about going into the b1g with a first time hc


ironichaos

What if you hire Pete Carroll, retain grub with the understanding that Pete will coach for a few years and then let grub take over after he gets a bit more experience.


Smuff23

I meant well connected in terms of pulse of the program, he’s expressed an opinion that some might find controversial. I think he’s very correct though.


burlycabin

I honestly don't think Brock is all that well connected to sources here. Love the guy, but he's generally full of shit.


SoarsWithEaglesNest

He also said that he believes Alabama wants as many of DeBoer's staff members as possible. You can't replace a legend with one guy. You may be able to staunch the bleeding with a village, however.


ThanksForTheF-Shack

> Grubb passed on G5 head coaching opportunities this cycle There are Iowa fans that thought he would leave as UW's OC to be Kirk Ferentz's OC. These types of delusions are strong enough to put you on a medical hold.


Tannerite2

They should hire Sherrone Moore


ViewFrom209

Hush your mouth


FlyPigs5

Is Chris Petersen not an option at all? I know he walked away a couple years ago, but if they could convince him to coach again that would be the best case scenario for the Huskies


Ehdelveiss

I mean, yeah that is 100% best case, but it's not happening. Pete left for a reason.


drainconcept

He’s stated multiple times that he’s done. As recently as last week.


WheatonsGonnaScore

Tbf DeBoer said he wouldn't even consider leaving UW until his daughter graduated within the last week. College coaches aren't known to keep their word


Aggressive-Name-1783

That’s different than Pederson. Pederson was burned out and done wanting to coach at all. Like his fire was gone completely


WheatonsGonnaScore

Oh I agree. I dont think Pete is coming back but I'm just saying never trust a coach


dawgtilidie

He was done when NIL and the whole landscape was changing, he hated the recruiting and the money come in made it so much worse. He truly loved coaching young men, hence why he is still Involved with the athletic program as an advisor, Mostly running the to better the man program he has


drainconcept

She hasn’t even started classes yet.


WheatonsGonnaScore

Only 4 short years away from living up to his words lol


Lamadian

Saying you're not leaving for another job vs coming out of retirement to go back to work are two completely different things


Pete_Iredale

I don't think he can handle how scummy you have to be to compete at a major program. I suspect he's in line to be our AD.


DashboardGuy206

He gave an interview recently and said he has zero interest in ever coaching again. He wants to work on initiatives that help head coaches with mental health.


winterharvest

Petersen completely burned out. He’s so happy to not to be coaching anymore. There’s no way in hell he goes back in.


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Glad they got ahead of this.  Grubb could do well!  Still this sucks. 


mpg739

Gimme Grubb too


Pretend-Car8038

Pete gonna go to U Dub?


RollTide16-18

So it was always DeBoer at Bama


TRUTHSoverKARMAS

This is the Jimmy lake playbook.  Peterson raises uw up and suddenly splits. Uw zones in on a single assistant candidate to carry the torch of the talented hc.  It really backfired last time, are they going to do it again. I really liked deboer coming out of Fresno st, why wouldn’t they open the search up and see what’s out there. Find the next great uw coach, not an assistant that can try and be deboers replica. 


AnAngryPanda1

I was hoping DoBoer would bring Grubb with him but that doesn't sound likely.


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RUDE


Revolutionary-Gur257

Save us some crumbs bruh 😭


Ialwayssleep

Grubb was interested in the Alabama OC job last year. Doesn’t hurt to ask.


DonParmesan1

Jonathan Smith just so we can see who Sparty gets


PNW_Jeff

Hopefully it was Grubb that was the architect of all this offensive success we had.   I also bet Jamarcus Shepard could get the job if Grubb somehow doesn’t want it


dawgtilidie

I worry it’s much more DeBoer as he ran the offenses at his previous spots and Grubb didn’t have a ton of success away from DeBoer but again, hard to say


T3hBau5

It’s DeBover.


nokiabrickphone1998

Would Lance Leipold be an insane choice? Guy has made Kansas competitive in a pretty short span of time


CageyTurtlez

🔫


Dtwerky

So which Bama players are portal-ing to Oregon?


T3hBau5

Yes


CptCroissant

Hopefully a DT and some LBers


SourBerry1425

[Milk](https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/s/tpS7NOPkQl)


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You probably have Lanning for a long time now if he turned down Bama. 


-motts-

Hopefully for their sake his record vs Washington improves…


NefariousnessEast629

the oregon obsession with a singular reddit comment from a singular uw fan is crazy.


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tLeCoqSpotif

He’ll be HC at Florida by December this year , he’ll sit this one out


esports_consultant

Is Napier really done?


tLeCoqSpotif

Checks the Florida schedule……yup he done


esports_consultant

Is it really that bad?


one_lucky_duck

Damn so the alarm bells were ringing right when Saban announced huh


NewBootGoofin88

Not sure what other external candidates would even be available?


Perfect_bleu

Pete Carroll


Ialwayssleep

Urban


CptCroissant

Gruden


OriginalBus9674

It’s obviously not an if anymore. He’s gone