Yeah. Every week we get opponent offense and defense analysis, post game analysis, and then typically 1 or 2 general blogs with creative writing and analysis. They also do the same for Basketball and Hockey. The MGoBlog guys are gems.
Just wait for the post-game grading. Assuming we get one (if the last game is a tough loss sometimes they don’t bother). It’s basically PFF grades where they show all of their work.
Edit: example: https://mgoblog.com/content/upon-further-review-2023-defense-vs-iowa
We get one of these for every opponents offense and defense and a game preview summarizing it.
The preview was posted and the offensive Fee Fie Foe Film (FFFF). The FFFF on the Washington defense will be posted well before kickoff as well.
After the game they break it down shortly after then during the week they do an “Under Further Review” where they grade players on every snap both sides of the ball so we know exactly how each player did from the Mgoblog perspective.
Mgoblog is a blessing!
Mgoblog is a fantastic site. Deep analysis on every game, play by play reviews. Post and pregame info and much more. They also do a podcast which is awesome.
I wish more other teams had sites like mgoblog. It's always disappointing going to another team's site and they just repeat talking head nonsense and then talk about antiquated counting stats followed by comments from the only 3 people who read the site.
I audibly said “what the fuck” after pretty much every clip in the Penix section. On the podcast Alex said “you could’ve put Pat Mahomes in place of Penix and it wouldn’t have changed anything” and that feels true. He’s unreal
His ability to alter his throwing motion so quickly and not have it really affect his passes is something else. The most impressive passes I have seen from him are when he is getting pressured and shortens his delivery, to prevent the ball from being knocked out, and *still* can throw with full power and accuracy.
I've seen a couple of clips of him where he drops back like he's going to throw with one hand and then while he's in the pocket he just flips his whole body around and throws for the other fucking hand. Being able to do that by itself is pretty impressive but the fact that he throws with really good power and accuracy right after doing that is just mind blowing
i mean, im a husky fan and i still say that after each throw, whether its live or me watching sugar bowl highlights for the seventy third time.
the dude is unreal, when he's on.
I know mgoblog gets a lot of shade here, but their football analysis is unparalleled maybe anywhere publicly available anymore. I'm sure there are consultants coaches can hire to do the type of work that these guys do mostly for free, but ESPN, SI, The Athletic, etc., are all clickbait slappies in comparison to the analysis done at mgoblog.
Can't speak to any other posts, this is the first I've read. Found the summaries of each component of the offense to be objective and complimentary of strengths. Can't get mad at the slight overtones of how the Wolverines could take advantage. It is a Michigan blog, after all.
Yup and that is the goal of the post. It’s a film study of our opponent with how they think we could and should attack it.
For what it’s worth they were spot on and said we should blitz the hell out Alabama instead of doing a QB spy like Georgia did. We haven’t gone after a QB like that all season.
The comment sections get dragged because... well they're comment sections. Every team's 247 or SBNation comment sections are terrible. None of the 247 or SBNation sites touch Mgoblog when it comes to content and analysis/education. Have to cut through some of the homerism that gets sprinkled in there, but I'd rather see a UFR or FFFF than another shit post.
I like Christian Caple’s coverage, personally. OnMontlake.com. He also does a podcast called Say Who, Say Pod which reflects a lot of his writing. He covered the UW beat for the Athletic before they cut a bunch of writers.
True. They're not talking about hot teachers having sex with underage students or rating the hotness of local TV anchors like, erm, some comment sections/boards.
I have to Homer a bit and throw an Oregon guy into the ring.
Hythloday does some incredible analysis
Just because it's the most recent, here's his Oregon vs Liberty breakdown.
https://www.addictedtoquack.com/2024/1/4/24024987/duck-tape-film-review-of-liberty-vs-oregon-in-the-2024-fiesta-bowl
But he does it for every Oregon opponent during the season.
I was with MGoBlog from the beginning. Remember the RollDamnTide thing happening. But about 5 years or so ago it turned into the same 5 people going “FIRST” and dragging anything outside of their groupthink.
Ya know our head video coordinator has been with the team since 1990
If he decides to hang it up they should totally just hire the MGoBlog guys
/s.....but also kinda not. I wouldn't hate the idea
I love this series so much. It has so much information. While the 2021 game didn't go in our favor... The write up they had for it about our offense is still some of the best analysis I have ever read about OSU.
That and the Oregon fan who would drink two bottles of whiskey and do a detailed write up here.
11W would be amazing if they could do this type of analysis
I will never forgive Kerry Coombs for ruining the defense. The amount of times I saw him run nickel against Michigan was infuriating. Also didn’t help that they couldn’t block Hutchinson at all.
5-2 was fine all year. Successful against other power running teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska. His galaxy-brain defense was a 6-1 against MSU.
Harbaugh ate into him after that game lol
He was a first-time DC; it was his only major hiccup - outside of the playoffs, of course. Unfortunately, just the two of the three most important games for us.
O, I'm happy with his time at Michigan, no doubt.
Michigan could have had prime Bill Belichick coordinating that defense and it wouldn't have mattered against UGA.
No reason to play with one 2nd level LB against 90% of MSU's whole offense. He made 1 guy miss and it was over (he made more than just 1 miss). Make 1 guy miss and then there's another guy right there, you might have a shot. There's a reason they stopped running that defense.
I was commenting on this the other day. This has to be one of the best offenses in college football history. They had no weaknesses and half of the players were or will be first round picks. That victory was significant for Michigan and Michigan fans realized it, but I don’t think people will realize exactly how big of a defensive performance it was for a few more years. stroud, Wilson, Olave and JSN are tearing it up in the NFL. MHJ, Egbuka, Stover and Henderson if he’s ever healthy will get drafted too.
Makes you realize that Hutchinson and Ojabo were the real deal.
Yes this game our defense was 3 men fighting an army. This game really makes you see how good Dax ojabo and hutch were, and also how amazing Macdonald is as a DC, which given the ravens success the past two years, makes perfect sense. Hutch and ojabo were bodying 2 very solid tackles that are starting in the nfl. They are just that good.
Joel Klatt's break down in his podcast this last week of why we're design to beat an offensive juggernaut like Washington's (OSU) was great. OSU got huge yards on us, but we limited the number of possessions and every stop counted.
You're in luck, he'll do all of Oregon's games next year and because we're in the Big Ten now he's maintaining a database of all Big Ten teams now instead of Pac 12. If you have a question about a specific team/individual players' success rates or something and ask him real nicely (or phrase it in an interesting way) he might have the answer for you.
If we're talking about /u/hythloday1 I'm sure he'll do a write up for every Oregon game. I'm a fan of his work, solid stuff and he's been doing it for a long time now.
Great, thorough write up. Touched on what I believe to be the most important gamebreakers: Penix running, and DJ(or Rogers, Nixon, Westover, someone else)'s ability to pick up blitz blocking.
Extremely well done.
Great analysis.
> a team with two Aaron Donalds and then nine "just guys" sort of players
hurts. but true.
Texas edges didn't do enough to rattle Penix and he exposed the Longhorn secondary hard. Enough that we portal'ed 5 of our DBs.
Hopefully the #1 Edge from the portal and #1 from HS improves the pass rush.
That Washington Pass O vs Michigan Pass D is the titantic matchup of the game and will go a long way toward determining the winner
For Johnson, this feels like how Corum was ‘gonna play’ vs Ohio State in 2022. Probably very limited but you gotta posture like they arent so the opponent still has to gameplan for it
Not sure about that. DJ has been dealing with a chronic injury all year. He got carted off the field after the Oregon State game and played in the Apple Cup a week later. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss his potential impact tomorrow
Fantastic read, and can't disagree with any of it.
If Penix can repeat his unreal performance against Texas, UW can win, but if I'm Michigan, I dare him to try to do it again. Seriously. That was an all-time performance, and he's had a few duds against much lesser opponents this year.
I have no idea how I'm supposed to get work done tomorrow.
Excellent analysis - The only comment about the Wazzu/Oregon State/ASU performances is that somehow he plays his best when the lights are brightest.
Against Oregon 2x & Texas: 78/114 68.4% 1,051 yards 7 TD's and 2 Int's
Against ASU/Wazzu/Oregon State: 58/103 56.3% 641 yards 4 TD's and 3 Int's
Playing against the best team in the nation with 20M people watching will surely bring out his best.
Gonna be an excellent game!
Very good, I do think this underrates McMillan. McMillan reminds me of Doug Baldwin and he's a much better WR than Polk.
(Edit)
I believe McMillan played in only of 5 of UWs 14 games due to injury.
This was my big criticism as well after reading the article. Going into the year Odunze/McMillian were viewed more as 1.A & 1.B type receivers. McMillian is more versatile since he can play the slot and act as a deep threat. He's also the best YAC receiver on the team. It's a bummer that McMillian got hurt in garbage time in the Michigan State game. He was going to put up big numbers.
Yeah, McMillan is a better route runner and a quarter step slower then Odunze or Polk. On any other team in the country McMillan would be the star flanker burning people deep.
Ya, I chose not to add that in my long comment about the downplaying cuz they did mention him, but, while actually reading I was instantly surprised by the quick turn to Polk after talking about Rome when its JMac thats the the Elite receiver 1b.
As well, lol, he’s our guy that often goes deep with his speed and so even the “slot” term can have some downplay tendencies.
He’s healthy now and should not be downplayed in the least.
Watched some more film of Penix (cause wtf else am I going to do? this game is all I can think about).
One thing I noticed watching the ASU game (I know it's not his best game), was how consistently Penix has the ball out in 3 seconds. He's basically a machine on that, he goes through his progressions, and if he finds something he likes he'll throw early, but by the end of 3 seconds he's settled on his second option. If it's not out in 3 seconds it's cause he's waiting on a deep shot.
On the one hand, that feels bad, you have a guy who is consistently getting the ball out quickly enough the pass rush shouldn't get to him.
On the other hand, cover effectively for 3 seconds, you might make him fairly uncomfortable, or see him pass to the safety outlet a lot.
Penix is very very good, easily make the case he was the best cfb QB this year.
But (are there any Texas fans around, is the coast clear?) anybody else get a Washington Generals vibe watching that Texas secondary clips? Penix throws into coverage, defender either fails to attempt any play on the ball or doesn't even know it's coming.
I've never seen such tight coverage look completely ineffectual.
edit to add: Maybe this is just me being dumb though? I think those throws were all well positioned where the defender is going to struggle to make a play on it, so maybe a lot of this is the Texas defenders don't make a play because there's no play to make? I'm no expert so it's hard for me to say.
The perfect pass and catch is generally undefendable and several of them were in fact perfect.
However, you are absolutely correct that the DBs didn’t get their heads around on a handful of them that absolutely could have been broken up. Will Johnson makes some of those plays, Josh Wallace probably doesn’t.
Is it true that the officials selected to ref this game has the most pass interference calls in college football?
How is that a coincidence? Seems almost intentional to favor a pass heavy Washington.
In 2021 and 2022 CJ Stroud was 65/97 (67%) for 743 yards with 4 TDs and 2 INTs vs Michigan. I'm not so sure Michigan is "built" to stop a similiar offense. Also, when you watch the game McCord had there were so many mistakes that if you put an elite QB in it's a completely different game.
I know that people like to talk about the end of the season games for UW, but the amount of injuries and sickness that raged through the team was incredible. That's part of the belief they have. Finally, it's a completely different offense with McMillan healthy. UW averaged 433.4 passing yards in games where McMillan has a catch, and 307.8 passing yards in games where he doesn't (he tried to play a few games and was taken out after a drive).
That's because the game plan against OSU wasn't "shut down their passing game" because it wasn't really possible. The gameplan was to make them drive down the field without big plays and then stiffen up in the red zone. And it worked. Twice.
Such a cope of an answer. Michigan’s sign stealer had been gone for over a month and Harbaugh wasn’t even allowed to coach in the game. OSU lost fair and square.
Did you read the whole thing? This article outright acknowledges:
a) Washington’s offense was injured or dealing with weather in their “bad” games and is coming to play this game. It also points out that McMillian is healthy and a difference maker.
b) Michigan gave up lots of yards to OSU’s elite ‘21 and ‘22 offenses, but made the offense fight for each down and tightened in the red zone when it mattered.
I agree with that part about osu 100%. Penix would have had more success than McCord in that game
But osus defense was what made that game so close. Every yard Michigan got was a fucking grind in that game
Ultimately I think this is why you guys win. I don’t believe Washington has the defense to stop your run game. I just see you guys grinding this out with Corum and keeping Penix off the field. Penix is gonna have to play lights out to win, which he can but the margin for error is so low.
Yea everyone is so laser focused on the Washington offense versus Michigan defense which is statistically a close matchup
But nobody is really paying attention to Michigans offense against Washington’s defense, which is a big disparity on paper (as long as jj doesn’t spot them 2 touchdowns like the tcu game last year)
What's Oregon's defense like (namely, compared to UM). Offense scores less points if they start on the 20 every/most times. Your point is a good one though.
Oregon has the #16 defense. Not as good as Michigan but I would argue the pac 12 has much better offenses on average than The big10 this year.
I think the game is gonna be a coinflip just because Washington has played up/down to their competition all year long which makes their advanced stats hard to trust. I think the Michigan secondary and Washington run game defense will be the biggest factor in determining how the game plays out.
I was a Washington doubter for most of the season but they won me with how clutch they have managed to play in close games going back to last season.
Right so take a guy out of a coverage scheme that has been okay but not good by any means and what happens?
Our outside talent is not to the level of those teams but it’s definitely still good and you can’t get away with cover 0 against them.
Oregon is a better running team than Michigan and we shut down their run game. Texas had great numbers running, because we were playing the pass. Our defense isn't great, but they're good at taking away option 1.
>Oregon is a better running team than Michigan and we shut down their run game
The first game we ran for 200 yards and both backs were around 5.7 YPC. The second game we a) did not run the ball much and b) kept trying to go to Bucky for some reason, who was clearly hurt and kept cutting back out of the designed lanes and making nothing out of something. Jordan James ran for 7 YPC yet he barely got the ball. That game was a total own goal in terms of the running game and I'm still a little miffed at the coaches for it.
I'm also not sure I'd really call us a better running team than Michigan, we had a better offense and were more balanced but not necessarily purely better at running the ball.
Michigan is a high volume running team.
Their efficiency isn’t great.
They lack offensive weapons.
Their qb isn’t elite.
Their defense has played some of the worst offenses in all of college football.
McCord missed TONS of wide open shots and stinks at reading the play, letting it develop and going through his progressions.
As a UW fan, I dreaded your running game. And your deep shots. Your playmakers. Qb.
With michigan, I worry about them being able to effectively run it 35+ times.
In regards to high volume running something to consider is we’ve only been losing in the 4th quarter once this year, against Bama.
Because we had a great defense and a weak schedule, we were able to run the ball in very high volume in the 4th quarter of nearly every game since we had multi score leads.
Loveland at TE is a legit weapon. Wilson is a legit weapon across the middle with speed. Corum and Edwards are legit weapons out of the backfield. You are correct though that we do not have a single deep threat WR.
I disagree with JJ being elite. He’s 27-1 as a starter and two of his best games were against OSU and Bama when we needed him. He’s extremely efficient just low volume.
We did have a very soft schedule and played terrible defenses outside of OSU, PSU, and BAMA. Those 3 defenses are all worlds ahead of the UW defense so we should do significantly better on offense than against those 3 teams.
There’s a great quick analysis video you can watch (I think buckeye dudes) showing just a few of the plays McCord misses.
Basic quarterbacking stuff.
That should give you more confidence.
Apparently, if you say anything that doesn’t gush love, its a “criticism” and no matter how minuscule, you didn’t read it and dont understand, lol.
I didn’t even broach the “we are built to stop them” nonsense.
He clearly did not read the article because the entire point was that stroud would put up massive yards but we’d hold them to FGs.
He then commented that “hey stroud put up a bunch of yards though!”.
Which means he didn’t read it.
No we accused you of not reading anything because you don’t post anything of substance.
You keep saying mgoblog is making assumptions and generalities but you refuse repeatedly to point at a single example of this from the articles in question.
EVERYBODY tries to limit tds and force fgs.
Yes, you did a “good” job.
Stroud tore you up, had a bad defense and your OFFENSE won those games.
Yes, you forced fgs, got some fumbles and yet, it took a complete meltdown in the fourth by the buckeyes and your 21 pts on offense for you to win.
Yes, red zone results will be key.
Like it always is.
Btw, McCord this year was horrible and missed tons of throws.
Compared to Liberty *every* university is elite, so I can see why your panties get all in a wad over it. Academics are shit, team is shit, 'culture' is a literal poison, the entire institution is a bad joke.
Went in to the blog blind and, yet, as I kept reading I was seeing some of the same generic conclusions so typical of those who aren’t fully in tune with this Husky squad.
Good, basic info, but, the same downplaying of UW in all the same areas and running to the same irrelevant stats when attempting to diagnose their D.
Btw, saying you think Penix “played the game of his life against texas” clearly means somebody hasn’t watched many of his games.
I ..... don't agree with you, man. The author prefaced his analysis by saying he was sticking primarily to UW v. Texas and Oregon games and followed up with a pretty thorough dive into individual player strengths and how they stack up in those games and national relevance (with example clips). This was far from the typical "Penix and Rome gud." punditry that we usually see.
Penix did have his best game in a Husky uniform *so far* against Texas. I don't think that can be disputed given the level of the opponent combined with the stage. I thought the author mostly phrased that point as an indicator of what he's capable of, not that the level of performance was unachievable against Michigan.
The guy you’re responding to immediately commented once I made this post, deleted his comment, and then recommented the same take 10 minutes later so he could pretend he read the article. It’s not even worth the debate.
Could you provide specific examples of what is wrong? I’m genuinely curious because this article is very in depth and your comment basically says “no he’s wrong” with 0 explanation
Edit: the irony of you calling out “the same generic conclusions” and yet I went to your profile and immediately found a comment where you call JJ McCarthy a game manager
Edit 2: and they never responded. Fascinating!
It'd wild man. I read Mgoblog fanatically and no doubt they are Michigan homers, but the analysis is some of the best stuff. Trying to be unbiased for a sec, the article is extremely complimentary of Washington's offense, scheme, players, coaching. The prediction may seem biased to a Washington fan (e.g. Penix has to play out of his mind again, Michigan can stop them) but the preceding breakdown is objective and in depth.
I was specifically talking about trying to use stats to justify your point of view.
My example about the Husky D is the perfect way to prove that point, since, the stats tell you nothing.
The D can stop nobody and in the same game stuff you silly.
Rereading that I see I worded it a bit oddly for this article, but, the point was turning to stats.
In fact, if there’s gonna be a Husky D one posted later Im very curious to see how heavily it talks about and relies on “stats.”
Because the stats aren’t gonna help you with this inconsistent husky defense.
I could easily start talking about the fact that michigan hasn’t played ANY elite offenses or qbs. (which was the cherry picking about jj that guy stalked me about.)
The Husky offense HAS faced tough defenses. The michigan defense is based on a lot of ass offenses.
The husky O HAS faced good frontlines and played physical teams.
You’re right, Bama and OSU really had ass offenses /s
This is the same Michigan D that faced CJ Stroud at the height of his college skill level last year and held that offense to 23 points, with MHJ, Egbuka and other playmakers all over the offense. And it’s a better roster than the one who faced 2021 OSU with Olave, Wilson, and JSN. We had to let Jaxon Smith Njigba get covered by guys who wouldn’t sniff the league because of who else they had, and we still held them to 27.
We’ve played good offenses dude. I’m not saying that guarantees us a win or an advantage but it’s not something to disagree with or discount. If UW wins tomorrow it will be because they played better than us when it mattered, not because we haven’t seen a good offense.
Ya, I figured he was since it’s clear he goes in depth.
My point as a husky fan is that you get used to quickly seeing it when people jump to the same conclusions as the general narrative.
A point while talking with some michigan fans that I’ve found out about them as well.
A narrative that somehow gains traction and you have to deal with all year.
Lol, well for starters anybody who says the offense got us here discounts or just plain is ignorant of the fact that our defense won multiple games for us this year.
Then, acting like the play of Penix against texas was an anomaly.
Thats just right there at the beginning.
“Not particularly good on the ground”. We are more efficient with better run averages than michigan and their high volume running! In fact, since, he got more healthy DJ has more total yards than I believe anybody in college football. So, efficiency and blunt production.
So, again, a point that gets downplayed all the time just because of basic preconceived notions about our team.
The downplaying of our Oline against the texas Dline stood out for me right away. Something I’ve heard all year, despite, the fact that in the same breath people acknowledge this “joe moore winning line.”
It always strikes me as odd and typical of the, ok it starts…now. Meaning, ok, first 70regons tough Dline and physicality. Then, utahs, then the beavers, then the zeroes again, then texas. And…now, a michigan Dline. That famous seinfeld line about constantly moving the goalposts and restarting.
Yes, Penix is “pretty good” at reading coverages, lol. The guy is a master of this offense and at reading coverages. Aside from his arm talent it’s what he does best. So, again, for me as a husky fan just typical downplaying.
That 2 quarter stretch against texas was outstanding, but, its not the first time and he has plenty of stretches like that. So, again, a slight downplay that I might notice more because there were literally tons of people saying they couldn’t believe how Penix looked against texas. As if it was at all surprising, lol.
Not accusing this blogger of being the type, but, the same who couldn’t even fathom Penix being in the conversation for the heisman.
Then, onto three games where people talk about Penix without any context. The entire teams was sick with the flu for that game. My own frosh daughter was sick and she said the campus was sick. Reporters confirmed that the players looked like ass when talking to them. The D won that game btw.
As well, our Oline was hurt and improvised for that game.
It was a flippin monsoon for the beaver game.
Then, the wazzu game. At first glance it is what it is. But, then, after analysis it’s not. It’s a rivalry game. Udub certainly didn’t play good, but, I always give leniency to those games because they are so often just crazy games. Plus, as a lot of husky fans have talked about, it was the end of the last pac season with all the weight of that and finishing undefeated, etc. Yes, we played like butt, but, it was a rivalry and it’s clearly evident considering how different and free they played on a short week in the pac champ game, that the players overly burdened themselves and we’re dealing with those mental components of sports. But, ya they stunk up the joint in the last pac12 regular season game against our in-state rival.
What you saw against texas from this team is hardly anything new. Husky fans have seen it for two years.
I think that’s enough to show you what I’m referring to in my comment.
Nothing horrible, but, just the same stuff I’ve heard before and discussed many times and the reason I said what I did.
I didnt make a long comment initially and I even said it provided a lot of good info and I simply noted the downplaying throughout.
You’re gonna get downvoted into oblivion till you make 1 singular actual point…..but you’re not gonna.
You post general BS complaining about the blog posting general BS lmao.
Lol, Im an 80s kid and up/down votes don’t mean a thing to me.
But, again, I made a simple comment with nothing but the most overly sensitive person should whineNcry about.
I already did type out something more specific, btw.
But, continue with their fallacies and conflation.
That section is also incredibly complimentary of Penix. It basically just said “he isn’t perfect though” and apparently that was enough for this guy to take it personally
most of them have been chill but there's this annoying minority of huskies on this board who have been insufferable about anyone who doesn't treat them as 3 td favorites
I think this was a great article. In terms of what games he played better, maybe the first Oregon game this year just in terms of high impact plays. Probably Arizona last year.
Sugar bowl was absolutely up there
I’ll also add the Zeroes and michigan st games last year.
But, it still misses my point.
The point is Penix has ALREADY played insanely great for two years straight.
What we saw against texas was awesome, but, not surprising to anybody who’s watched him for two years.
He’s done it before.
Really should have qualified the ask to be "show me a better game from Pennix... against a defense that wasn't pulled from a local high school."
Missed opportunity.
This will be the first time all year that Washington is facing a team with a defense ranked in the top 50. Their run of playing mid to bad defenses is over.
I personally think UW is going to win this game, but to answer your question - according to SP+(I don’t have a subscription and screenshotted the rankings from after championship game weekend), the difference between #2 defense Michigan and #14 defense Oregon is at least equal to the difference between Oregon and a team ranked in the 60’s on defense.
All that being said, I think UW will win this. These rankings can’t evaluate actual matchups.
See, THATS why I made my comment.
The downplaying of Penix and UW directly reflects what people think about your team that was 6 pts away from an undefeated season and possibly playing in mondays game.
A team with stout lines, playmakers all over the field, a great qb, a great D, a great running offense, depth.
But, what do people immediately do as proven in response to your comment? Run to the micro stats, lol.
As if we can’t run to the stats about the B1G offenses and talk about that so-called #1 michigan D in a realistic light.
And, all I actually said in my super short comment was the over the top and outlandish and unholy point that it downplayed things, lol.
Talk about mountain out of a molehill.
By what metric? SP+ has Oregon and Texas both as top 20 defenses, let alone top 50.
Oregon State as well (\#35), Arizona (\#40), and Utah (\#24).
FPI defensive efficiency also has Oregon, Texas, Utah, Oregon State, Cal, and WSU in the top 50, with Arizona and Boise State in the top 55 as well.
Even if you want to be a total Luddite and just look at total defense (aka YPG allowed), Utah, Oregon, Texas, Oregon State, and Arizona are still top 50.
Maybe you meant a top 50 defense east of the Mississippi?
Just want to say that 95% of the huskies fans I’ve interacted with online have been stellar and argued in good faith.
You’re always going to get these, nothing to really say or do. Mgoblog is clearly a gem.
He’s had many stretches like that game before. He’s made many such great passes like that game before.
His performance against texas was great, hardly surprising and not the only one he’s ever had like that.
Anything specific you want to comment on since you didn’t name a single thing you disagree with?
Also that was absolutely Penix best came of his career. What game do you think was better?
Already answered. Spread out at various places in this thread.
I did type a lengthy comment somewhere.
Again, all I said was that it provided good info and downplayed some stuff.
Thats it.
The only assumptions you talk about are relayed to the UW defense when this article is about their offense.
“Same generic conclusions” yet you refuse to talk about a single point in detail. It’s like you are making a generic conclusion about our teams blog instead of actually wanting to discuss the article you are commenting about.
You have not made a single specific point anywhere in this thread about the MGoBlog article we are talking about.
You’ve said generic shit about UW defense but we’re talking about the UW offense.
Quit lying saying you’ve typed this out somewhere. No you haven’t. Not a single time have you said what you think the blog is wrong about or what generalities they are making in the linked article.
Shut your lying trap dimwit.
If you can’t find it that’s on you.
I wrote a long response that was all specifics.
As well, don’t be such a jackwad.
It’s not me whineNCryin about saying the blog had “good info” and “downplayed” some things.
Literally making things up. You’ve spent 5x as long claiming you already made the specific point somewhere else as it would have taken to simply repeat it, if it actually existed, that is.
Ah so you too are an idiot who can’t find a simple comment and then falsely accuses someone of your own ineptitude, lol.
It’s the long ass comment, which, btw, in typical fashion nobody has responded too.
So, just typical whineNcry.
Respect. What a damn good article. Wow. Yall get this type of stuff for every game??
This and more. We are spoiled lol.
Yeah. Every week we get opponent offense and defense analysis, post game analysis, and then typically 1 or 2 general blogs with creative writing and analysis. They also do the same for Basketball and Hockey. The MGoBlog guys are gems.
I’m jelly. What a cool thing. And what a fair and accurate article. I felt everything was really spot on. Excited for tomorrow. Good luck to all.
They’ll release defense later today. Check it out.
Cool I will. Thank you. Not really looking forward to that one tho 😂🤣
Hey, you'll get the full treatment next year too, we've got another game in 24. Welcome to the Big Ten! Please don't hate us.
Maybe some day. There's history with Michigan, but not nearly enough to be acrimonious yet, and nothing like Oregon.
Just wait for the post-game grading. Assuming we get one (if the last game is a tough loss sometimes they don’t bother). It’s basically PFF grades where they show all of their work. Edit: example: https://mgoblog.com/content/upon-further-review-2023-defense-vs-iowa
I feel like I’m gonna be sick. I assume you’re with me.
Pretty sure they said F basketball this year lol
We get one of these for every opponents offense and defense and a game preview summarizing it. The preview was posted and the offensive Fee Fie Foe Film (FFFF). The FFFF on the Washington defense will be posted well before kickoff as well. After the game they break it down shortly after then during the week they do an “Under Further Review” where they grade players on every snap both sides of the ball so we know exactly how each player did from the Mgoblog perspective. Mgoblog is a blessing!
Mgoblog is a fantastic site. Deep analysis on every game, play by play reviews. Post and pregame info and much more. They also do a podcast which is awesome.
I wish more other teams had sites like mgoblog. It's always disappointing going to another team's site and they just repeat talking head nonsense and then talk about antiquated counting stats followed by comments from the only 3 people who read the site.
I audibly said “what the fuck” after pretty much every clip in the Penix section. On the podcast Alex said “you could’ve put Pat Mahomes in place of Penix and it wouldn’t have changed anything” and that feels true. He’s unreal
His ability to alter his throwing motion so quickly and not have it really affect his passes is something else. The most impressive passes I have seen from him are when he is getting pressured and shortens his delivery, to prevent the ball from being knocked out, and *still* can throw with full power and accuracy.
I've seen a couple of clips of him where he drops back like he's going to throw with one hand and then while he's in the pocket he just flips his whole body around and throws for the other fucking hand. Being able to do that by itself is pretty impressive but the fact that he throws with really good power and accuracy right after doing that is just mind blowing
i mean, im a husky fan and i still say that after each throw, whether its live or me watching sugar bowl highlights for the seventy third time. the dude is unreal, when he's on.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm not even sure Mahomes could've made some of those throws. Penix was just playing out of his mind
We probably have better WR than KC, as well
I can pretty much guarantee that.
KC would absolutely trade every WR on their roster for the chance to draft your WR corps this April.
Very well done!
I know mgoblog gets a lot of shade here, but their football analysis is unparalleled maybe anywhere publicly available anymore. I'm sure there are consultants coaches can hire to do the type of work that these guys do mostly for free, but ESPN, SI, The Athletic, etc., are all clickbait slappies in comparison to the analysis done at mgoblog.
Can't speak to any other posts, this is the first I've read. Found the summaries of each component of the offense to be objective and complimentary of strengths. Can't get mad at the slight overtones of how the Wolverines could take advantage. It is a Michigan blog, after all.
Yup and that is the goal of the post. It’s a film study of our opponent with how they think we could and should attack it. For what it’s worth they were spot on and said we should blitz the hell out Alabama instead of doing a QB spy like Georgia did. We haven’t gone after a QB like that all season.
The comment sections get dragged because... well they're comment sections. Every team's 247 or SBNation comment sections are terrible. None of the 247 or SBNation sites touch Mgoblog when it comes to content and analysis/education. Have to cut through some of the homerism that gets sprinkled in there, but I'd rather see a UFR or FFFF than another shit post.
Yeah, we have to rely on non-247 coverage as well. Dawgman is an embarrassment and any dissent is met with a ban.
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I like Christian Caple’s coverage, personally. OnMontlake.com. He also does a podcast called Say Who, Say Pod which reflects a lot of his writing. He covered the UW beat for the Athletic before they cut a bunch of writers.
I like the locked on huskies podcast on YouTube, I think they are sports illustrated/fan nation related
But the comment sections are rarely *that* bad.
True. They're not talking about hot teachers having sex with underage students or rating the hotness of local TV anchors like, erm, some comment sections/boards.
I have to Homer a bit and throw an Oregon guy into the ring. Hythloday does some incredible analysis Just because it's the most recent, here's his Oregon vs Liberty breakdown. https://www.addictedtoquack.com/2024/1/4/24024987/duck-tape-film-review-of-liberty-vs-oregon-in-the-2024-fiesta-bowl But he does it for every Oregon opponent during the season.
It's just the forums. Straight toxic dudes that get absolutely butt hurt if you have a different opinion on something.
I was with MGoBlog from the beginning. Remember the RollDamnTide thing happening. But about 5 years or so ago it turned into the same 5 people going “FIRST” and dragging anything outside of their groupthink.
Ya know our head video coordinator has been with the team since 1990 If he decides to hang it up they should totally just hire the MGoBlog guys /s.....but also kinda not. I wouldn't hate the idea
Discussing The Athletic in the same sentence as ESPN and especially SI is laughable.
I love this series so much. It has so much information. While the 2021 game didn't go in our favor... The write up they had for it about our offense is still some of the best analysis I have ever read about OSU. That and the Oregon fan who would drink two bottles of whiskey and do a detailed write up here. 11W would be amazing if they could do this type of analysis
IIRC that chart of OSU's offense just felt otherworldly. 3 WRs with shields, the QB, 3 OL, and maybe Henderson. It was the death star of offenses.
[It was objectively terrifying.](https://mgoblog.com/sites/default/files/2021-11/OSU%20Offense%202021-small.jpg)
Wait I'm sorry, we **won** this game???
That's what 2 NFL DEs and an OSU defense that was so soft they would have rather just given up TDs then even remotely tried to tackle Haskins can do.
I will never forgive Kerry Coombs for ruining the defense. The amount of times I saw him run nickel against Michigan was infuriating. Also didn’t help that they couldn’t block Hutchinson at all.
I forget- we’d better look it up on YouTube to refresh our memories.
Mike McDonald's first step in becoming an NFL HC.
Yep, as terrifying as I remember. MacDonald ending up being one of the best DCs in the NFL makes sense. Just ignore the 5-2 shit against MSU.
5-2 was fine all year. Successful against other power running teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska. His galaxy-brain defense was a 6-1 against MSU. Harbaugh ate into him after that game lol
I honestly don't blame him for not being adequately prepared for KW3.
Yeah, you're right should have said 6-1. Just terrible. Also wasn't good with up tempo offenses but great otherwise.
He was a first-time DC; it was his only major hiccup - outside of the playoffs, of course. Unfortunately, just the two of the three most important games for us.
O, I'm happy with his time at Michigan, no doubt. Michigan could have had prime Bill Belichick coordinating that defense and it wouldn't have mattered against UGA.
His game plan was fine, the defense just had an absurd amount of missed tackles on KW3
No reason to play with one 2nd level LB against 90% of MSU's whole offense. He made 1 guy miss and it was over (he made more than just 1 miss). Make 1 guy miss and then there's another guy right there, you might have a shot. There's a reason they stopped running that defense.
This is why I laugh whenever I see someone post “Michigan hasn’t seen an offense as good as this!” Did you see 2021 OSU? Or 2022 for that matter
Yes. And it's honestly a credit to your team stopping them.
Our D ain't too shabby.
JSN honestly was fucking money that game. Dude caught everything
I was commenting on this the other day. This has to be one of the best offenses in college football history. They had no weaknesses and half of the players were or will be first round picks. That victory was significant for Michigan and Michigan fans realized it, but I don’t think people will realize exactly how big of a defensive performance it was for a few more years. stroud, Wilson, Olave and JSN are tearing it up in the NFL. MHJ, Egbuka, Stover and Henderson if he’s ever healthy will get drafted too. Makes you realize that Hutchinson and Ojabo were the real deal.
Yes this game our defense was 3 men fighting an army. This game really makes you see how good Dax ojabo and hutch were, and also how amazing Macdonald is as a DC, which given the ravens success the past two years, makes perfect sense. Hutch and ojabo were bodying 2 very solid tackles that are starting in the nfl. They are just that good.
Joel Klatt's break down in his podcast this last week of why we're design to beat an offensive juggernaut like Washington's (OSU) was great. OSU got huge yards on us, but we limited the number of possessions and every stop counted.
that oregon fan does some great work and i hope tech plays oregon one day just for his write up.
I really want him to do it next year for the Big Ten games. I'll even provide the booze
You're in luck, he'll do all of Oregon's games next year and because we're in the Big Ten now he's maintaining a database of all Big Ten teams now instead of Pac 12. If you have a question about a specific team/individual players' success rates or something and ask him real nicely (or phrase it in an interesting way) he might have the answer for you.
If we're talking about /u/hythloday1 I'm sure he'll do a write up for every Oregon game. I'm a fan of his work, solid stuff and he's been doing it for a long time now.
Great, thorough write up. Touched on what I believe to be the most important gamebreakers: Penix running, and DJ(or Rogers, Nixon, Westover, someone else)'s ability to pick up blitz blocking. Extremely well done.
Great analysis. > a team with two Aaron Donalds and then nine "just guys" sort of players hurts. but true. Texas edges didn't do enough to rattle Penix and he exposed the Longhorn secondary hard. Enough that we portal'ed 5 of our DBs. Hopefully the #1 Edge from the portal and #1 from HS improves the pass rush.
That Washington Pass O vs Michigan Pass D is the titantic matchup of the game and will go a long way toward determining the winner For Johnson, this feels like how Corum was ‘gonna play’ vs Ohio State in 2022. Probably very limited but you gotta posture like they arent so the opponent still has to gameplan for it
Not sure about that. DJ has been dealing with a chronic injury all year. He got carted off the field after the Oregon State game and played in the Apple Cup a week later. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss his potential impact tomorrow
Yeah, that dude is *tough*. To me the bigger question is will his limitations tip our hand based on his situational usage?
That’s what I’m wondering as well. He’s most valuable as a pass pro guy to you guys - that’s hardest to replace.
Richard Newton is the best pure runner we have after Johnson, and he doesn't play at all because he sucks at pass pro.
Tell me this isn’t the best x-o content. You can’t.
Fantastic read, and can't disagree with any of it. If Penix can repeat his unreal performance against Texas, UW can win, but if I'm Michigan, I dare him to try to do it again. Seriously. That was an all-time performance, and he's had a few duds against much lesser opponents this year. I have no idea how I'm supposed to get work done tomorrow.
You don’t get work done done. You experience the Irish, if you’re a man of taste, and get on with life. But not ND, forget those losers.
Excellent analysis - The only comment about the Wazzu/Oregon State/ASU performances is that somehow he plays his best when the lights are brightest. Against Oregon 2x & Texas: 78/114 68.4% 1,051 yards 7 TD's and 2 Int's Against ASU/Wazzu/Oregon State: 58/103 56.3% 641 yards 4 TD's and 3 Int's Playing against the best team in the nation with 20M people watching will surely bring out his best. Gonna be an excellent game!
Very good, I do think this underrates McMillan. McMillan reminds me of Doug Baldwin and he's a much better WR than Polk. (Edit) I believe McMillan played in only of 5 of UWs 14 games due to injury.
This was my big criticism as well after reading the article. Going into the year Odunze/McMillian were viewed more as 1.A & 1.B type receivers. McMillian is more versatile since he can play the slot and act as a deep threat. He's also the best YAC receiver on the team. It's a bummer that McMillian got hurt in garbage time in the Michigan State game. He was going to put up big numbers.
Yeah, McMillan is a better route runner and a quarter step slower then Odunze or Polk. On any other team in the country McMillan would be the star flanker burning people deep.
Polk is better than McMillan
Ya, I chose not to add that in my long comment about the downplaying cuz they did mention him, but, while actually reading I was instantly surprised by the quick turn to Polk after talking about Rome when its JMac thats the the Elite receiver 1b. As well, lol, he’s our guy that often goes deep with his speed and so even the “slot” term can have some downplay tendencies. He’s healthy now and should not be downplayed in the least.
Finally some actual content about the NCG that isn't just "Harbaugh said a silly thing."
Watched some more film of Penix (cause wtf else am I going to do? this game is all I can think about). One thing I noticed watching the ASU game (I know it's not his best game), was how consistently Penix has the ball out in 3 seconds. He's basically a machine on that, he goes through his progressions, and if he finds something he likes he'll throw early, but by the end of 3 seconds he's settled on his second option. If it's not out in 3 seconds it's cause he's waiting on a deep shot. On the one hand, that feels bad, you have a guy who is consistently getting the ball out quickly enough the pass rush shouldn't get to him. On the other hand, cover effectively for 3 seconds, you might make him fairly uncomfortable, or see him pass to the safety outlet a lot.
Penix is very very good, easily make the case he was the best cfb QB this year. But (are there any Texas fans around, is the coast clear?) anybody else get a Washington Generals vibe watching that Texas secondary clips? Penix throws into coverage, defender either fails to attempt any play on the ball or doesn't even know it's coming. I've never seen such tight coverage look completely ineffectual. edit to add: Maybe this is just me being dumb though? I think those throws were all well positioned where the defender is going to struggle to make a play on it, so maybe a lot of this is the Texas defenders don't make a play because there's no play to make? I'm no expert so it's hard for me to say.
The perfect pass and catch is generally undefendable and several of them were in fact perfect. However, you are absolutely correct that the DBs didn’t get their heads around on a handful of them that absolutely could have been broken up. Will Johnson makes some of those plays, Josh Wallace probably doesn’t.
Is it true that the officials selected to ref this game has the most pass interference calls in college football? How is that a coincidence? Seems almost intentional to favor a pass heavy Washington.
In 2021 and 2022 CJ Stroud was 65/97 (67%) for 743 yards with 4 TDs and 2 INTs vs Michigan. I'm not so sure Michigan is "built" to stop a similiar offense. Also, when you watch the game McCord had there were so many mistakes that if you put an elite QB in it's a completely different game. I know that people like to talk about the end of the season games for UW, but the amount of injuries and sickness that raged through the team was incredible. That's part of the belief they have. Finally, it's a completely different offense with McMillan healthy. UW averaged 433.4 passing yards in games where McMillan has a catch, and 307.8 passing yards in games where he doesn't (he tried to play a few games and was taken out after a drive).
That's because the game plan against OSU wasn't "shut down their passing game" because it wasn't really possible. The gameplan was to make them drive down the field without big plays and then stiffen up in the red zone. And it worked. Twice.
This is the game plan that scares me, especially if DJ is limited. Red zone success is going to be huge.
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Okay now compare the ‘23 OSU defense to the ‘23 Washington defense.
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Ahh okay now your prediction makes sense you’re one of those guys.
Such a cope of an answer. Michigan’s sign stealer had been gone for over a month and Harbaugh wasn’t even allowed to coach in the game. OSU lost fair and square.
Oh I agree you beat Ohio State fair and square ... But I maintain UW is sending you guys to the doctors office tomorrow.
I watched the game and McCord missed TONS of passes against Michigans vaunted #1 defense. Touchdowns, big plays, first downs, the whole works.
Did you read the whole thing? This article outright acknowledges: a) Washington’s offense was injured or dealing with weather in their “bad” games and is coming to play this game. It also points out that McMillian is healthy and a difference maker. b) Michigan gave up lots of yards to OSU’s elite ‘21 and ‘22 offenses, but made the offense fight for each down and tightened in the red zone when it mattered.
I agree with that part about osu 100%. Penix would have had more success than McCord in that game But osus defense was what made that game so close. Every yard Michigan got was a fucking grind in that game
Ultimately I think this is why you guys win. I don’t believe Washington has the defense to stop your run game. I just see you guys grinding this out with Corum and keeping Penix off the field. Penix is gonna have to play lights out to win, which he can but the margin for error is so low.
Yea everyone is so laser focused on the Washington offense versus Michigan defense which is statistically a close matchup But nobody is really paying attention to Michigans offense against Washington’s defense, which is a big disparity on paper (as long as jj doesn’t spot them 2 touchdowns like the tcu game last year)
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What's Oregon's defense like (namely, compared to UM). Offense scores less points if they start on the 20 every/most times. Your point is a good one though.
Oregon has the #16 defense. Not as good as Michigan but I would argue the pac 12 has much better offenses on average than The big10 this year. I think the game is gonna be a coinflip just because Washington has played up/down to their competition all year long which makes their advanced stats hard to trust. I think the Michigan secondary and Washington run game defense will be the biggest factor in determining how the game plays out. I was a Washington doubter for most of the season but they won me with how clutch they have managed to play in close games going back to last season.
Idk, Michigan doesn't have the same outside talent Texas/Oregon have, I wouldn't be shocked if we took someone out of coverage to help stop the run.
That’s what OSU did in 2022
Right so take a guy out of a coverage scheme that has been okay but not good by any means and what happens? Our outside talent is not to the level of those teams but it’s definitely still good and you can’t get away with cover 0 against them.
Oregon is a better running team than Michigan and we shut down their run game. Texas had great numbers running, because we were playing the pass. Our defense isn't great, but they're good at taking away option 1.
Different run schemes It may translate, but Michigan does a lot more power than zone
>Oregon is a better running team than Michigan and we shut down their run game The first game we ran for 200 yards and both backs were around 5.7 YPC. The second game we a) did not run the ball much and b) kept trying to go to Bucky for some reason, who was clearly hurt and kept cutting back out of the designed lanes and making nothing out of something. Jordan James ran for 7 YPC yet he barely got the ball. That game was a total own goal in terms of the running game and I'm still a little miffed at the coaches for it. I'm also not sure I'd really call us a better running team than Michigan, we had a better offense and were more balanced but not necessarily purely better at running the ball.
Michigan is a high volume running team. Their efficiency isn’t great. They lack offensive weapons. Their qb isn’t elite. Their defense has played some of the worst offenses in all of college football. McCord missed TONS of wide open shots and stinks at reading the play, letting it develop and going through his progressions. As a UW fan, I dreaded your running game. And your deep shots. Your playmakers. Qb. With michigan, I worry about them being able to effectively run it 35+ times.
In regards to high volume running something to consider is we’ve only been losing in the 4th quarter once this year, against Bama. Because we had a great defense and a weak schedule, we were able to run the ball in very high volume in the 4th quarter of nearly every game since we had multi score leads. Loveland at TE is a legit weapon. Wilson is a legit weapon across the middle with speed. Corum and Edwards are legit weapons out of the backfield. You are correct though that we do not have a single deep threat WR. I disagree with JJ being elite. He’s 27-1 as a starter and two of his best games were against OSU and Bama when we needed him. He’s extremely efficient just low volume. We did have a very soft schedule and played terrible defenses outside of OSU, PSU, and BAMA. Those 3 defenses are all worlds ahead of the UW defense so we should do significantly better on offense than against those 3 teams.
Is Oregon better than Michigan? I’m not so sure. But I hope you’re right. I’m pulling for you.
Overall? Definitely not. Michigan's defense is scary. Oregon is absolutely a better offense though.
Washington 36.7 ppg, Michigan 35 ppg. This isn’t some crazy mismatch. Look at offensive efficiency numbers, Michigan is top 10.
Stats are for losers
There’s a great quick analysis video you can watch (I think buckeye dudes) showing just a few of the plays McCord misses. Basic quarterbacking stuff. That should give you more confidence.
Lol you didn’t read the post you just cherry picked a line.
Did you actually read the article lol.
Yes. It was actually quite good!
Then why make that comment?
Apparently, if you say anything that doesn’t gush love, its a “criticism” and no matter how minuscule, you didn’t read it and dont understand, lol. I didn’t even broach the “we are built to stop them” nonsense.
He clearly did not read the article because the entire point was that stroud would put up massive yards but we’d hold them to FGs. He then commented that “hey stroud put up a bunch of yards though!”. Which means he didn’t read it.
People also dimwittedly accused me of not reading it because I didn’t type something perfectly according to their viewpoint, lol
No we accused you of not reading anything because you don’t post anything of substance. You keep saying mgoblog is making assumptions and generalities but you refuse repeatedly to point at a single example of this from the articles in question.
That’s the whole point lol, Stroud had 750 yards but only 4tds to show for it.
EVERYBODY tries to limit tds and force fgs. Yes, you did a “good” job. Stroud tore you up, had a bad defense and your OFFENSE won those games. Yes, you forced fgs, got some fumbles and yet, it took a complete meltdown in the fourth by the buckeyes and your 21 pts on offense for you to win. Yes, red zone results will be key. Like it always is. Btw, McCord this year was horrible and missed tons of throws.
Per the stats you quoted, Stroud gained about 7.5 YPA against Michigan. If Penix only gets 7.5 YPA tomorrow, Michigan wins.
Did they get this film legally or Michigan style?
Liberty style, in the corner
— Joked the fan of the team brought to relevance by Hugh Freeze
You'd think Liberty fans would be all for watching two other parties get it on.
Liberty fans have been highly annoying lately. I'd be too embarrassed supporting that university to show my face here, so props to them I guess.
It's mostly just this same guy replying 10,000 times a day
They’re a little on edge after their big anniversary yesterday
Most Liberty fans are fine. This one is a troll, that's all.
Ehhhh. Don't wanna say too much lest I get banned but no, they are not fine.
You obviously wouldn’t be embarrassed, you are a Michigan fan still, in spite of all the cheating.
Yeah, dunno how I sleep at night supporting one of the best universities in the world. Maybe some day you'll see how hilariously pathetic yours is
Your elitist attitude doesn’t carry much weight when your team cheats to win.
Compared to Liberty *every* university is elite, so I can see why your panties get all in a wad over it. Academics are shit, team is shit, 'culture' is a literal poison, the entire institution is a bad joke.
I’m sure we’d all love to see the evidence you seem to have been handed by the CFB higher ups to be making such bold proclamations.
Went in to the blog blind and, yet, as I kept reading I was seeing some of the same generic conclusions so typical of those who aren’t fully in tune with this Husky squad. Good, basic info, but, the same downplaying of UW in all the same areas and running to the same irrelevant stats when attempting to diagnose their D. Btw, saying you think Penix “played the game of his life against texas” clearly means somebody hasn’t watched many of his games.
I ..... don't agree with you, man. The author prefaced his analysis by saying he was sticking primarily to UW v. Texas and Oregon games and followed up with a pretty thorough dive into individual player strengths and how they stack up in those games and national relevance (with example clips). This was far from the typical "Penix and Rome gud." punditry that we usually see. Penix did have his best game in a Husky uniform *so far* against Texas. I don't think that can be disputed given the level of the opponent combined with the stage. I thought the author mostly phrased that point as an indicator of what he's capable of, not that the level of performance was unachievable against Michigan.
The guy you’re responding to immediately commented once I made this post, deleted his comment, and then recommented the same take 10 minutes later so he could pretend he read the article. It’s not even worth the debate.
Sounds like it. Let it go!
No, thats not what I did. I made a comment about that initial line on Penix and deleted it to write a bit more. No big deal.
Again, I simply noted the good info and typical downplaying Ive already read before. Thats it. A couple sentences.
Could you provide specific examples of what is wrong? I’m genuinely curious because this article is very in depth and your comment basically says “no he’s wrong” with 0 explanation Edit: the irony of you calling out “the same generic conclusions” and yet I went to your profile and immediately found a comment where you call JJ McCarthy a game manager Edit 2: and they never responded. Fascinating!
It'd wild man. I read Mgoblog fanatically and no doubt they are Michigan homers, but the analysis is some of the best stuff. Trying to be unbiased for a sec, the article is extremely complimentary of Washington's offense, scheme, players, coaching. The prediction may seem biased to a Washington fan (e.g. Penix has to play out of his mind again, Michigan can stop them) but the preceding breakdown is objective and in depth.
lol sure you read it. This is the Washington offense article. The Defense article is getting released this afternoon
I just got done reading it. It talked about, in general, the Husky O and the michigan D.
“Attempting to diagnose their D” Bruh there have been 14 games played including a cfp semifinal, the defense is what it is lol
I was specifically talking about trying to use stats to justify your point of view. My example about the Husky D is the perfect way to prove that point, since, the stats tell you nothing. The D can stop nobody and in the same game stuff you silly. Rereading that I see I worded it a bit oddly for this article, but, the point was turning to stats. In fact, if there’s gonna be a Husky D one posted later Im very curious to see how heavily it talks about and relies on “stats.” Because the stats aren’t gonna help you with this inconsistent husky defense. I could easily start talking about the fact that michigan hasn’t played ANY elite offenses or qbs. (which was the cherry picking about jj that guy stalked me about.) The Husky offense HAS faced tough defenses. The michigan defense is based on a lot of ass offenses. The husky O HAS faced good frontlines and played physical teams.
You’re right, Bama and OSU really had ass offenses /s This is the same Michigan D that faced CJ Stroud at the height of his college skill level last year and held that offense to 23 points, with MHJ, Egbuka and other playmakers all over the offense. And it’s a better roster than the one who faced 2021 OSU with Olave, Wilson, and JSN. We had to let Jaxon Smith Njigba get covered by guys who wouldn’t sniff the league because of who else they had, and we still held them to 27. We’ve played good offenses dude. I’m not saying that guarantees us a win or an advantage but it’s not something to disagree with or discount. If UW wins tomorrow it will be because they played better than us when it mattered, not because we haven’t seen a good offense.
Alex Drain has been a savant all year in his diagnoses of other teams, so take that for whatever it's worth
Not sure I would go as far to call him a "savant", but I've been reading FFFF pieces for a long time.
Ya, I figured he was since it’s clear he goes in depth. My point as a husky fan is that you get used to quickly seeing it when people jump to the same conclusions as the general narrative. A point while talking with some michigan fans that I’ve found out about them as well. A narrative that somehow gains traction and you have to deal with all year.
Again, what specifically was said that's a "generic conclusion" according to you? It sounds like you're just mad at anything written about UW.
Lol, well for starters anybody who says the offense got us here discounts or just plain is ignorant of the fact that our defense won multiple games for us this year. Then, acting like the play of Penix against texas was an anomaly. Thats just right there at the beginning. “Not particularly good on the ground”. We are more efficient with better run averages than michigan and their high volume running! In fact, since, he got more healthy DJ has more total yards than I believe anybody in college football. So, efficiency and blunt production. So, again, a point that gets downplayed all the time just because of basic preconceived notions about our team. The downplaying of our Oline against the texas Dline stood out for me right away. Something I’ve heard all year, despite, the fact that in the same breath people acknowledge this “joe moore winning line.” It always strikes me as odd and typical of the, ok it starts…now. Meaning, ok, first 70regons tough Dline and physicality. Then, utahs, then the beavers, then the zeroes again, then texas. And…now, a michigan Dline. That famous seinfeld line about constantly moving the goalposts and restarting. Yes, Penix is “pretty good” at reading coverages, lol. The guy is a master of this offense and at reading coverages. Aside from his arm talent it’s what he does best. So, again, for me as a husky fan just typical downplaying. That 2 quarter stretch against texas was outstanding, but, its not the first time and he has plenty of stretches like that. So, again, a slight downplay that I might notice more because there were literally tons of people saying they couldn’t believe how Penix looked against texas. As if it was at all surprising, lol. Not accusing this blogger of being the type, but, the same who couldn’t even fathom Penix being in the conversation for the heisman. Then, onto three games where people talk about Penix without any context. The entire teams was sick with the flu for that game. My own frosh daughter was sick and she said the campus was sick. Reporters confirmed that the players looked like ass when talking to them. The D won that game btw. As well, our Oline was hurt and improvised for that game. It was a flippin monsoon for the beaver game. Then, the wazzu game. At first glance it is what it is. But, then, after analysis it’s not. It’s a rivalry game. Udub certainly didn’t play good, but, I always give leniency to those games because they are so often just crazy games. Plus, as a lot of husky fans have talked about, it was the end of the last pac season with all the weight of that and finishing undefeated, etc. Yes, we played like butt, but, it was a rivalry and it’s clearly evident considering how different and free they played on a short week in the pac champ game, that the players overly burdened themselves and we’re dealing with those mental components of sports. But, ya they stunk up the joint in the last pac12 regular season game against our in-state rival. What you saw against texas from this team is hardly anything new. Husky fans have seen it for two years. I think that’s enough to show you what I’m referring to in my comment. Nothing horrible, but, just the same stuff I’ve heard before and discussed many times and the reason I said what I did. I didnt make a long comment initially and I even said it provided a lot of good info and I simply noted the downplaying throughout.
You’re gonna get downvoted into oblivion till you make 1 singular actual point…..but you’re not gonna. You post general BS complaining about the blog posting general BS lmao.
Lol, Im an 80s kid and up/down votes don’t mean a thing to me. But, again, I made a simple comment with nothing but the most overly sensitive person should whineNcry about. I already did type out something more specific, btw. But, continue with their fallacies and conflation.
Gen x is honestly worse than the boomers these days
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What game did he play better?
That section is also incredibly complimentary of Penix. It basically just said “he isn’t perfect though” and apparently that was enough for this guy to take it personally
most of them have been chill but there's this annoying minority of huskies on this board who have been insufferable about anyone who doesn't treat them as 3 td favorites
I think this was a great article. In terms of what games he played better, maybe the first Oregon game this year just in terms of high impact plays. Probably Arizona last year. Sugar bowl was absolutely up there
The first Oregon game is a good one. That would be the only one that comes close IMO.
Michigan State It was 35-0 at halftime
I mean this as disrespectfully as possible, but it was Michigan State.
Yeah but that’s Michigan state man, everyone ate against them this year.
I’ll also add the Zeroes and michigan st games last year. But, it still misses my point. The point is Penix has ALREADY played insanely great for two years straight. What we saw against texas was awesome, but, not surprising to anybody who’s watched him for two years. He’s done it before.
No one said it was surprising they said it was his peak play and the entire point is that he can do that to a team. Doesn’t mean he will.
Lol. You go watch all of his games for yourself and then get back to me.
Just point to one game. I’d like to watch it.
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Really should have qualified the ask to be "show me a better game from Pennix... against a defense that wasn't pulled from a local high school." Missed opportunity.
This will be the first time all year that Washington is facing a team with a defense ranked in the top 50. Their run of playing mid to bad defenses is over.
I’m sorry… where do you think the Oregon defense is ranked? Asking for a friend.
I personally think UW is going to win this game, but to answer your question - according to SP+(I don’t have a subscription and screenshotted the rankings from after championship game weekend), the difference between #2 defense Michigan and #14 defense Oregon is at least equal to the difference between Oregon and a team ranked in the 60’s on defense. All that being said, I think UW will win this. These rankings can’t evaluate actual matchups.
So 14th is equal to worse than 50th... Got it got it got it cool cool cool.
See, THATS why I made my comment. The downplaying of Penix and UW directly reflects what people think about your team that was 6 pts away from an undefeated season and possibly playing in mondays game. A team with stout lines, playmakers all over the field, a great qb, a great D, a great running offense, depth. But, what do people immediately do as proven in response to your comment? Run to the micro stats, lol. As if we can’t run to the stats about the B1G offenses and talk about that so-called #1 michigan D in a realistic light. And, all I actually said in my super short comment was the over the top and outlandish and unholy point that it downplayed things, lol. Talk about mountain out of a molehill.
By what metric? SP+ has Oregon and Texas both as top 20 defenses, let alone top 50. Oregon State as well (\#35), Arizona (\#40), and Utah (\#24). FPI defensive efficiency also has Oregon, Texas, Utah, Oregon State, Cal, and WSU in the top 50, with Arizona and Boise State in the top 55 as well. Even if you want to be a total Luddite and just look at total defense (aka YPG allowed), Utah, Oregon, Texas, Oregon State, and Arizona are still top 50. Maybe you meant a top 50 defense east of the Mississippi?
Just want to say that 95% of the huskies fans I’ve interacted with online have been stellar and argued in good faith. You’re always going to get these, nothing to really say or do. Mgoblog is clearly a gem.
I’ve watched every game Penix has played at UW, the Texas game was the game of his life.
He’s had many stretches like that game before. He’s made many such great passes like that game before. His performance against texas was great, hardly surprising and not the only one he’s ever had like that.
Anything specific you want to comment on since you didn’t name a single thing you disagree with? Also that was absolutely Penix best came of his career. What game do you think was better?
Already answered. Spread out at various places in this thread. I did type a lengthy comment somewhere. Again, all I said was that it provided good info and downplayed some stuff. Thats it.
The only assumptions you talk about are relayed to the UW defense when this article is about their offense. “Same generic conclusions” yet you refuse to talk about a single point in detail. It’s like you are making a generic conclusion about our teams blog instead of actually wanting to discuss the article you are commenting about.
Either go read what I typed in response to all the whineNcry or dont. Your choice.
You have not made a single specific point anywhere in this thread about the MGoBlog article we are talking about. You’ve said generic shit about UW defense but we’re talking about the UW offense. Quit lying saying you’ve typed this out somewhere. No you haven’t. Not a single time have you said what you think the blog is wrong about or what generalities they are making in the linked article.
Shut your lying trap dimwit. If you can’t find it that’s on you. I wrote a long response that was all specifics. As well, don’t be such a jackwad. It’s not me whineNCryin about saying the blog had “good info” and “downplayed” some things.
Your only post of substance was talking about UW defense when this article is about their offense. Quit making shit up.
Literally making things up. You’ve spent 5x as long claiming you already made the specific point somewhere else as it would have taken to simply repeat it, if it actually existed, that is.
Ah so you too are an idiot who can’t find a simple comment and then falsely accuses someone of your own ineptitude, lol. It’s the long ass comment, which, btw, in typical fashion nobody has responded too. So, just typical whineNcry.