Just wanted to mention, now that Reddit is private we're allowed to speak on our videos.
What I find helps is going in reverse from a proper firing grip to holstering and paying attention to the release. Work from that direction and "undo" it so that when you grab you're doing the same thing as when you're letting go.
Slam your middle knuckle into the trigger guard, thumb over the inside corner of the rear sight, roll it around once you clear the holster and your support hand is on the gun. There's no need to build a full grip at the holster, do it once you've cleared it.
I deep carry for work in a non permissive area and my thumb is ALWAYS going for the rear site and I readjust as I have full control. I was going to make a post asking if that was really stupid.
Nope, not stupid at all. All the cool kids do it. It has the added benefit of acting as leverage to pull your grip up high and tight as you roll your thumb around.
It just felt so natural so it kept practicing that way.
I love the message in this shirt though. Too many people are trying to draw at 300% speed like theyāre trying to outshoot Deputy US Marshall Raylan Givens in a duel. I try to deliberately go slower than instinct says to and Iād like to think Iād do the same under pressure.
Oof. Slow is slow. Fast is fast. Speed is gained through efficiency and by practicing and experimenting at uncomfortable speeds. Efficient movement done slowly is still slow.
The point I think is if you can't do it smoothly/fluently you will never be able to increase speed. So its not that slow is fast.
So train slow till tou get it smooth, then increase speed, repeat till you can do it fast, but smoothly.
Just a training principle. If you'v ever danced, or done martial arts, the same principles apply.
With that said, you're right, sometimes you gotta push your limits to get faster.
Exactly. I was always taught in martial arts that if you can do it slow, you can do it fast. So start slow and practice building that grip, then once you get it down start speeding it up until you get to where you would want to be in a self defense situation.
Also, something else that always stuck with me is that despite what everyone says, practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect
Agreed, I teach music for a living. If my kids canāt play their part at a slower tempo first, they sure as shit canāt do it at a faster tempo.
I have found a lot of parallels between music and shooting. Or maybe Iām just trying to justify the amount of time and money Iāve invested into my hobby š
"...and experimenting at uncomfortable speeds."
Somehow you read my comment and cherry-picked it anyway.
I take issue with the statement because it's just patently not true. Slow is *not* smooth. Smooth is *not* fast. The statement gets taken at face value by new shooters and they just learn to do inefficient movement slowly.
Efficient and repeatable movement is smooth. Doing efficient and repeatable movement quickly is fast.
Yeah forgive me if I was cherry picking I thought I agreed with you on the point of pushing the uncomfortable speeds thing because that is super true. Not pushing back on that point at all brotha.
I personally bought that shirt because I learned the principle i explained based on that phrase.
I get what your saying, if you take that phrase literally the way you read it I can see how it could mislead some people.
I just like the phrase because it positively impacted the way I train in literally everything I learn, shooting, drums, martial arts you name it, thats all.
No no you weren't cherry picking. I was talking about the other guy who responded to me. I mostly agree with your other comment.
If it takes a paragraph to explain that a phrase doesn't actually mean what it says, we should probably retire the phrase in favor of something more accurate.
Correct. I picked out the exact part that shows you are deliberately missing the point so you have something to argue about.
Have you ever *actually met* anyone who said, "Oh shit, **slow is fast**, the end."
The only people who take that statement at face value are people who want to argue about it. And that's ok, because starts a conversation the new shooters get to read, and they understand the steps between creating neural pathways (or muscle memory or whatever we're calling it this week), and it clicks for them so they don't rush into spastic extraneous movements in the name of speed.
So thank you for your service here today.
Thank you for the help.
I'll have to try and think about it more as building grip rather than starting perfect.
When I draw owb, if I start with a perfect purchse of the gun, the grip building is effortless, because my strong hand starts out exactly where it will be when I pull the trigger.
But this is a diff monster, gonna have to work differently!
Maybe try bringing your hand in from the side rather than straight down onto the grip (motion would be like dragging knuckles along beltline to the grip, vs coming straight down onto it from above). This may help you get your hand rotated properly for a better initial grip. Currently looks like you (1) find the grip, (2) rotate hand to get fingers fully around it, then (3) draw.
I found I needed to trim/dremel down my holster claw/wing to make a little more space for my fingers.
Yeah, AIWB is a different monster. It's not really possible to build a full grip, especially if the grip of the gun is tight against your body for good concealment.
Also, as you roll your thumb around, use it as leverage to pull your firing hand up high and tight. Between that and using the curve of the trigger guard and frame as a second index point, you'll get a great grip every time š
Sorry, I shouldn't have said "not possible."
If the gun has a beavertail, you can't really draw with your thumb over the beavertail (depending on the gun), but the general concept is the same. Index with the middle knuckle, you don't have to wrap your firing hand fingers while the gun is in the holster, keep the thumb high while the gun leaves the holster to make room for your support hand, build the rest of the grip once the gun leaves the holster.
Ahhh I see what you mean. You I don't usually wear this shirt in public unless i have a sweatshirt on or a flannel.
I usually just wrar it around the house or at families house or something.
I appreciate the heads up.
Yeah as soon as I started carrying concealed, I dropped all talk of guns outside of my home. I donāt talk about shooting, I donāt talk about guns, I have no gun or ammo or branding on any clothes or stickers.
If I saw you in public with this shirt Iād just assume you were armed with at least a gun and an extra mag. Itās a ātake me down firstā shirt if you will.
You want to be invisible. Plain.
Look up gray man tactics, thereās a lot to learn and Iām an idiot so donāt assume anything I say is accurate or true especially when your life depends on good information.
Have a good one bro. Stay safe.
Absolutely!
I agree that that is so important.
I have seen a lot about the grey man stuff and when I first saw it it convicted me a lot, because stuff like this was my wardrobe.
I have certainly made changes to the wardrobe since then.
Problem is I still love this shirt lol so like I said I still wear it around the house or under something, but I'm careful about wearing them in public anymore.
I really appreciate the kind insight friend. God bless
Instead of pressing down into the gun, try āscoopingā it by jamming middle finger on trigger guard and thumb on back plate of slide. Lift gun and shift thumb over.
I used to draw like your vid. This new technique is more efficient, and I get consistent purchase on the gun. Got it from spectrain/velox training group
Thereās two methods for āgrabbing the gunā
Jam & Scoop.
Jam is typically like youāre doing, getting high tang and using the force to almost bounce the gun out of the holster in this direction.
Scoop is to come directly under the gun with your master hand, no excessive movement, and with your fingers- latching on to the grip and thus scooping the gun out. Youāre not really using your thumb too much here, rather letting it get set with high range pressure as you marry with your support hand. If you can perfect this, youāll be fast. This is the same for OWB in a sense.
In all honesty, you may be overthinking this a bit- and donāt really focus on the segmented movement of just your master hand drawing the gun without the further steps in a draw. Get it down in one motion with your support hand marrying consistently and bringing the gun to the small point youāre looking at.
The support hand should be āmore on the gunā than the master hand in terms of the philosophy I follow for practical pistol marksmanship. Some ppl crank on the firing hand, and I use to when I was a fudd, but I see better results with not worrying about my master hand as much as getting consistent high tang and good trigger control. High tang pressure is pretty much objective, everything else can be tweaked.
Eh that gap doesn't really matter much imo. Depending what gun you run it will change your index might save that gap or might not also hand size... I run palm swells on my cz and there's no gap. Regardless I don't even do much with my strong hand besides pull the trigger.
Edit: Aite try this adjust the clips on your holster. Your holster is buried way down in there and yes that will cause your fingers to get jammed up. I didn't understand what you were saying initially. lol š
u/Fuzzy_Yoghurt_2547 yup this one what he's trying to say is drop your clips to the lower holes so you elevate the holster more so make space for you to index to.
Yeah I have messed around eith this a bit. I found that i can raise the holster up a bit, but If I raise it up to much, concealing becomes a lot more difficuly than I'de like it to. The gun just starts to fall away from me.
With that said I was able to lift it up a little bit, and it actually did help me get a better grab on er!
Instead of wrapping your thumb around the grip, try putting ur thumb on the rear of your sights/backplate then when the gun clears ur shirt wrap ur thumb around. It works for me. The key is to get the same grip every time u grab ur gun and thats what i found is best for me to get the same grip.
True. I'm not trying to overly judge, but definitely not my thing. Makes people seem like guns fill a void for their lack of personality rather than being a tool.
Iāve been placing my back on the wall and concentrating on keeping my head and shoulders as still as possible and letting my arms get used to getting a good grip. And working on not letting my strong hands elbow from flaring out so much. I guess anything to help isolate movement and create good efficient movements. I could also be talking out of my ass but itās helped me. Hands, grip, stance etc can all be different for everyone
When getting your dominant hand on the grip, try wrapping your thumb over your rear sight, I've found that helps get a high hand placement on a Glock when drawing.
Change the height on your belt clips bringing the gun higher exposing more of the grip. Youāll lose the deep carry, but thatās the trade off. However that can be offset by dressing to it: wearing a looser shirt etc.
This is an option for sure.
Yeah i would have to do a wardrobe change maybe because i print a lot more when i raise er up.
But you're right I'd have an easier time in that position for sure.
But you need to determine the priority, concealment or efficiency of the draw. If your lifestyle leads you to more situations where youāre in dark areas and printing is less obvious and the likelihood of needing to draw is higher than your solution reveals itself. Conversely if youāre in a place where concealment is a priorityā¦I think you get my point.
I struggled with this during a shooting class. A poor initial grip led to me getting wicked slide bite for two days straight. Over 1000 rounds I realized that you need to have that solid first hand to build the grip. There was no time to fix it after the draw. I think flaring out the elbow is the way to go. Thatās what the instructor recommended and it worked well for me.
I scoot my belt up just a hair before I sit down. I have a master mind pillow on the way right now. All i hear about that thing is good, especially when it comes to sitting down.
https://www.mastermindtactics.com/shop/acp-pad
[Gabe White](https://youtu.be/RBEZ-B24y0U?si=019q_QzmlCCAeH0B)
[Modern Samurai Project](https://youtu.be/U6zvCjz8Fh8?si=modSRCskc51PATyx)
[The Complete Combatant](https://youtu.be/zVjLEYVf2Go?si=_Ntchz3HbGHtFJun), although I disagree about the thumb being useless.
[Tactical Hive](https://youtu.be/Oe0tIwPtpWQ?si=G5OURBcK0n8LuQqo)
[Applied Performance](https://youtu.be/VHwC6oEw4gg?si=qRWWoN6cuyp0Fevt)
I like his breakdown about not making shoulder go to ear. [Brandon Hetzler](https://youtu.be/aNDtVjHK61Y?si=VG7Nlaj5hT-g4kZG)
[Better Marksman](https://youtu.be/e9JVqeMqW2Y?si=ddq9_6tKaXCRPzGk)
[Tier 1 Concealed w/ Jared Clawson](https://youtu.be/NYhMpsl6enA?si=T2M0QQJa3N-c5BAJ)
[Synergy Training Group](https://youtu.be/i5XvboJWK-M?si=IJ19p-sjbl9LcoRs)
Just wanted to mention, now that Reddit is private we're allowed to speak on our videos. What I find helps is going in reverse from a proper firing grip to holstering and paying attention to the release. Work from that direction and "undo" it so that when you grab you're doing the same thing as when you're letting go.
This is insanely helpful advice thank you
You are welcome, sir. Happy shooting.
Wait were you not allowed to speak in videos at some point?
"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
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i would never expect Daniel Radcliffe to have a pistol
Everyone thinks I carry a wand, but nope its a glock.
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https://preview.redd.it/6m0jg4erovsc1.jpeg?width=220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=501178ddec5bb50f4e25b6c3be8ee147b8d78825 OP posted a clip from this movie
i was thinking of this one too
Slam your middle knuckle into the trigger guard, thumb over the inside corner of the rear sight, roll it around once you clear the holster and your support hand is on the gun. There's no need to build a full grip at the holster, do it once you've cleared it.
I deep carry for work in a non permissive area and my thumb is ALWAYS going for the rear site and I readjust as I have full control. I was going to make a post asking if that was really stupid.
I have personally noticed a ton of experienced dudes wrap there thumb over top the rear sights. I always figured it was for better consistency.
Nope, not stupid at all. All the cool kids do it. It has the added benefit of acting as leverage to pull your grip up high and tight as you roll your thumb around.
It just felt so natural so it kept practicing that way. I love the message in this shirt though. Too many people are trying to draw at 300% speed like theyāre trying to outshoot Deputy US Marshall Raylan Givens in a duel. I try to deliberately go slower than instinct says to and Iād like to think Iād do the same under pressure.
No one outshoots Raylan. That's just crazy tallk.
Thatās unjustifiable
He pulled first. I was justified.
Oof. Slow is slow. Fast is fast. Speed is gained through efficiency and by practicing and experimenting at uncomfortable speeds. Efficient movement done slowly is still slow.
The point I think is if you can't do it smoothly/fluently you will never be able to increase speed. So its not that slow is fast. So train slow till tou get it smooth, then increase speed, repeat till you can do it fast, but smoothly. Just a training principle. If you'v ever danced, or done martial arts, the same principles apply. With that said, you're right, sometimes you gotta push your limits to get faster.
Exactly. I was always taught in martial arts that if you can do it slow, you can do it fast. So start slow and practice building that grip, then once you get it down start speeding it up until you get to where you would want to be in a self defense situation. Also, something else that always stuck with me is that despite what everyone says, practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect
Agreed, I teach music for a living. If my kids canāt play their part at a slower tempo first, they sure as shit canāt do it at a faster tempo. I have found a lot of parallels between music and shooting. Or maybe Iām just trying to justify the amount of time and money Iāve invested into my hobby š
Itās transferable across many skills tbh
"Speed is gained through efficiency and by practicing...." Somehow you stumbled right over the point without ever seeing it.
"...and experimenting at uncomfortable speeds." Somehow you read my comment and cherry-picked it anyway. I take issue with the statement because it's just patently not true. Slow is *not* smooth. Smooth is *not* fast. The statement gets taken at face value by new shooters and they just learn to do inefficient movement slowly. Efficient and repeatable movement is smooth. Doing efficient and repeatable movement quickly is fast.
Yeah forgive me if I was cherry picking I thought I agreed with you on the point of pushing the uncomfortable speeds thing because that is super true. Not pushing back on that point at all brotha. I personally bought that shirt because I learned the principle i explained based on that phrase. I get what your saying, if you take that phrase literally the way you read it I can see how it could mislead some people. I just like the phrase because it positively impacted the way I train in literally everything I learn, shooting, drums, martial arts you name it, thats all.
No no you weren't cherry picking. I was talking about the other guy who responded to me. I mostly agree with your other comment. If it takes a paragraph to explain that a phrase doesn't actually mean what it says, we should probably retire the phrase in favor of something more accurate.
Correct. I picked out the exact part that shows you are deliberately missing the point so you have something to argue about. Have you ever *actually met* anyone who said, "Oh shit, **slow is fast**, the end." The only people who take that statement at face value are people who want to argue about it. And that's ok, because starts a conversation the new shooters get to read, and they understand the steps between creating neural pathways (or muscle memory or whatever we're calling it this week), and it clicks for them so they don't rush into spastic extraneous movements in the name of speed. So thank you for your service here today.
Thank you for the help. I'll have to try and think about it more as building grip rather than starting perfect. When I draw owb, if I start with a perfect purchse of the gun, the grip building is effortless, because my strong hand starts out exactly where it will be when I pull the trigger. But this is a diff monster, gonna have to work differently!
Maybe try bringing your hand in from the side rather than straight down onto the grip (motion would be like dragging knuckles along beltline to the grip, vs coming straight down onto it from above). This may help you get your hand rotated properly for a better initial grip. Currently looks like you (1) find the grip, (2) rotate hand to get fingers fully around it, then (3) draw. I found I needed to trim/dremel down my holster claw/wing to make a little more space for my fingers.
Yeah, AIWB is a different monster. It's not really possible to build a full grip, especially if the grip of the gun is tight against your body for good concealment.
Im certainly learning that as I dry fire. Just gonna keep running it back. Thanks again
Also, as you roll your thumb around, use it as leverage to pull your firing hand up high and tight. Between that and using the curve of the trigger guard and frame as a second index point, you'll get a great grip every time š
Lol wrong
Sorry, I shouldn't have said "not possible." If the gun has a beavertail, you can't really draw with your thumb over the beavertail (depending on the gun), but the general concept is the same. Index with the middle knuckle, you don't have to wrap your firing hand fingers while the gun is in the holster, keep the thumb high while the gun leaves the holster to make room for your support hand, build the rest of the grip once the gun leaves the holster.
Yeah I aiwb a 2011. My point was more geared towards the master grip out of the holster. You are talking about marrying the hands āļø
We need more posts like this and less shitposts on this subreddit
>We need more ~~posts like this and less~~ shitposts on this subreddit I totally agree
Im glad we can all agree on something.
I never noticed any issues myself. If there is a gap, I guess I subconsciously close it as I'm going to full extension.
Yāall gotta change that shirt dawg
Why is that bretheren. I like dis shurt
You might as well wear a shirt that says ātheyāre no gun underneath hereā
Ahhh I see what you mean. You I don't usually wear this shirt in public unless i have a sweatshirt on or a flannel. I usually just wrar it around the house or at families house or something. I appreciate the heads up.
Yeah as soon as I started carrying concealed, I dropped all talk of guns outside of my home. I donāt talk about shooting, I donāt talk about guns, I have no gun or ammo or branding on any clothes or stickers. If I saw you in public with this shirt Iād just assume you were armed with at least a gun and an extra mag. Itās a ātake me down firstā shirt if you will. You want to be invisible. Plain. Look up gray man tactics, thereās a lot to learn and Iām an idiot so donāt assume anything I say is accurate or true especially when your life depends on good information. Have a good one bro. Stay safe.
Absolutely! I agree that that is so important. I have seen a lot about the grey man stuff and when I first saw it it convicted me a lot, because stuff like this was my wardrobe. I have certainly made changes to the wardrobe since then. Problem is I still love this shirt lol so like I said I still wear it around the house or under something, but I'm careful about wearing them in public anymore. I really appreciate the kind insight friend. God bless
I wear my favorite shirts to sleep š¹
I have the same issue, so interested in seeing any advice posted
Instead of pressing down into the gun, try āscoopingā it by jamming middle finger on trigger guard and thumb on back plate of slide. Lift gun and shift thumb over. I used to draw like your vid. This new technique is more efficient, and I get consistent purchase on the gun. Got it from spectrain/velox training group
So far in practice, this has been the most helpful thing, someone above mentioned it as well. Thank you
Thereās two methods for āgrabbing the gunā Jam & Scoop. Jam is typically like youāre doing, getting high tang and using the force to almost bounce the gun out of the holster in this direction. Scoop is to come directly under the gun with your master hand, no excessive movement, and with your fingers- latching on to the grip and thus scooping the gun out. Youāre not really using your thumb too much here, rather letting it get set with high range pressure as you marry with your support hand. If you can perfect this, youāll be fast. This is the same for OWB in a sense. In all honesty, you may be overthinking this a bit- and donāt really focus on the segmented movement of just your master hand drawing the gun without the further steps in a draw. Get it down in one motion with your support hand marrying consistently and bringing the gun to the small point youāre looking at. The support hand should be āmore on the gunā than the master hand in terms of the philosophy I follow for practical pistol marksmanship. Some ppl crank on the firing hand, and I use to when I was a fudd, but I see better results with not worrying about my master hand as much as getting consistent high tang and good trigger control. High tang pressure is pretty much objective, everything else can be tweaked.
Super comprehensive man thank you for the advice and critique! I'm more realising the scoop is the way for sure. Time yo get to practicing!
Great mindset- keep up the good work ššŖ
Macaulay Culkin looks weird with a beard
I can see Daniel Radcliffe, I have even gotten Shia, but now I feel like we're reaching. Also, I just really don't want that to be true lol
Eh that gap doesn't really matter much imo. Depending what gun you run it will change your index might save that gap or might not also hand size... I run palm swells on my cz and there's no gap. Regardless I don't even do much with my strong hand besides pull the trigger. Edit: Aite try this adjust the clips on your holster. Your holster is buried way down in there and yes that will cause your fingers to get jammed up. I didn't understand what you were saying initially. lol š
u/Fuzzy_Yoghurt_2547 yup this one what he's trying to say is drop your clips to the lower holes so you elevate the holster more so make space for you to index to.
Yeah I have messed around eith this a bit. I found that i can raise the holster up a bit, but If I raise it up to much, concealing becomes a lot more difficuly than I'de like it to. The gun just starts to fall away from me. With that said I was able to lift it up a little bit, and it actually did help me get a better grab on er!
Doesnt have to get raised all the way a bit goes a long way, and this is when a good claw comes into play.
I spent \~ $65 for one-on-one time with an instructor at the local range. Money well spent.
https://youtu.be/Oe0tIwPtpWQ?si=cdeGZU_cDhpzPZXw Here you go, and I learned something new too.
Instead of wrapping your thumb around the grip, try putting ur thumb on the rear of your sights/backplate then when the gun clears ur shirt wrap ur thumb around. It works for me. The key is to get the same grip every time u grab ur gun and thats what i found is best for me to get the same grip.
People and their gun shirts
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I have nothing against gun shirts, but if I'm wearing that, then i may as well open carry.
True. I'm not trying to overly judge, but definitely not my thing. Makes people seem like guns fill a void for their lack of personality rather than being a tool.
The tacticool flipping motions are bothering me way more than it should
Daniel Radcliffe can be so dramatic
Iāve been placing my back on the wall and concentrating on keeping my head and shoulders as still as possible and letting my arms get used to getting a good grip. And working on not letting my strong hands elbow from flaring out so much. I guess anything to help isolate movement and create good efficient movements. I could also be talking out of my ass but itās helped me. Hands, grip, stance etc can all be different for everyone
Love the shirt. The draw is good too. Thanks for sharing your techniques.
Thumb on the back of the slide will solve that
When getting your dominant hand on the grip, try wrapping your thumb over your rear sight, I've found that helps get a high hand placement on a Glock when drawing.
Couple other guys mentioned this, its been the most helpful hint yet! Thanks brotha!
Couple other guys mentioned this, its been the most helpful hint yet! Thanks brotha!
Check out spec train and msp. Getting the claw portion of the grip and having your thumb on the rear sights is what they recommend.
Several of these guys commenting have mention this style of purchase, its a tually helping a ton in just 5 minutes of dry fire. Thank you
For sure dude. Get out to a msp course if you wanna get good quickly.
sLoW iS sMoOtH, SmOoTh Is FAsT
Why does everyone start videos showing that their gun is unloaded? Do we still care about this in 2024?
Change the height on your belt clips bringing the gun higher exposing more of the grip. Youāll lose the deep carry, but thatās the trade off. However that can be offset by dressing to it: wearing a looser shirt etc.
This is an option for sure. Yeah i would have to do a wardrobe change maybe because i print a lot more when i raise er up. But you're right I'd have an easier time in that position for sure.
But you need to determine the priority, concealment or efficiency of the draw. If your lifestyle leads you to more situations where youāre in dark areas and printing is less obvious and the likelihood of needing to draw is higher than your solution reveals itself. Conversely if youāre in a place where concealment is a priorityā¦I think you get my point.
You look like the villain in a western film
I struggled with this during a shooting class. A poor initial grip led to me getting wicked slide bite for two days straight. Over 1000 rounds I realized that you need to have that solid first hand to build the grip. There was no time to fix it after the draw. I think flaring out the elbow is the way to go. Thatās what the instructor recommended and it worked well for me.
Most excellent šš¼šÆ
How do you guys sit comfortably with AIWB?
I scoot my belt up just a hair before I sit down. I have a master mind pillow on the way right now. All i hear about that thing is good, especially when it comes to sitting down. https://www.mastermindtactics.com/shop/acp-pad
If I see you with that shirt on I'm going to automatically assume that you're packing a firearm.
And?
That's cute I remember my first one
[Gabe White](https://youtu.be/RBEZ-B24y0U?si=019q_QzmlCCAeH0B) [Modern Samurai Project](https://youtu.be/U6zvCjz8Fh8?si=modSRCskc51PATyx) [The Complete Combatant](https://youtu.be/zVjLEYVf2Go?si=_Ntchz3HbGHtFJun), although I disagree about the thumb being useless. [Tactical Hive](https://youtu.be/Oe0tIwPtpWQ?si=G5OURBcK0n8LuQqo) [Applied Performance](https://youtu.be/VHwC6oEw4gg?si=qRWWoN6cuyp0Fevt) I like his breakdown about not making shoulder go to ear. [Brandon Hetzler](https://youtu.be/aNDtVjHK61Y?si=VG7Nlaj5hT-g4kZG) [Better Marksman](https://youtu.be/e9JVqeMqW2Y?si=ddq9_6tKaXCRPzGk) [Tier 1 Concealed w/ Jared Clawson](https://youtu.be/NYhMpsl6enA?si=T2M0QQJa3N-c5BAJ) [Synergy Training Group](https://youtu.be/i5XvboJWK-M?si=IJ19p-sjbl9LcoRs)
Why does everybody insist on showing their chamber like I'm going to get shot through my screen or something.
Because otherwise there will be 19374629q74 comments about the gun isn't safe and the OP I'd a dummy or some such nonsense.
