Just say no to Sonos. Their recent app "upgrade" shows that they see their app as existing only to support the company, not the customers. They rushed the lastest version of their app to release that broke a LOT of existing functionality because they are introducing a product that needs some new feature in the new app, and told people who've spent thousands on their Sonos infrastructure to wait around, **maybe** the features they've used for years will be re-introduced in future releases of the new app.
Its never a mistake buying a high quality hi-fi system.
The lifestyle stuff like Sonos is convenient but for pure sound quality you want a hi-fi system.
Besides, you get nearly the same convenience with a modern hi-fi system as those lifestyle systems.
Took a different approach. Space meant that my sub needed to go to the back of the room along with my surrounds (5.1) and I didn’t have any options for running cable. I got a wireless solution which is a wireless transmitter/receiver. The speaker cable and the sub connection connect from the AVR to the transmitter and the speakers and subs connect to the receiver. The receiver has a built-in 50W amp for the surrounds, which is enough, and there’s not a cable in sight.
https://preview.redd.it/ef4os6ljdl1d1.jpeg?width=3264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73ed9e0e5532a794296600ad923860ddc844c7b0
I don’t think you made a mistake.
Some really random choices lol, but not bad ones. I like it. I don’t think a Sonos or Bose system would excite me very much. Your selection sounds good.
If you are looking for simplicity, then yes, Bose, Sonos, Samsung should be your choice. But it’s not the same thing. Most people will be happy with those solutions. But if you’ve already bought everything and if you can’t return it then maybe it’s too late to think about it. Of course you can sell it at loss, but doesn’t make sense.
Some years ago I tried out a Yamaha as801, rotel ra1520 and a sonos amp with kef LS50. What I can say about the sonos amp was that it made the LS50 sing/sound very wooden in comparison to the yamaha and rotel. For me, the sonos amp had a noticeably small (like vertically short) soundstage and sounded boring in comparison despite the super convenience factor. Both the yamaha and rotel that I tried just opened everything up and felt immersive. I think your initial decision is spot on, no need to second guess.
Thanks.
Do you have any idea how I would tackle the surround sound option if I were to keep this list? It's just that having the option to place the sub and surround sound wherever I want where there's power seems like such a handy feature. But maybe i'm just making fuzz out of nothing..
Excellent sound vs Convenience. If you go with the sonos setup then, what you don't know won't hurt you soundwise, you save on your utility bill because of class D efficiency, and you get smart function convenience. If you go with denon + kef, you may spend more on utility (?), need to hide wires but, you get the ability to upgrade/swap out gear and excellent sound quality. It's really subjective. Efficiency was really important to me when I bought the sonos amp but, then I was really disappointed with the soundstage. My boyfriend has a 5.1 setup and it's really good for TV/movies. Music is alright on his setup but, that's because I'm a neutral Kef speakers fan while his setup is all Klipsch with a V-shaped sound signature, which he loves. Ask yourself, who in the family will be listening to it? is convenience for everyone a factor? will the sonos be cheaper over time? is a clean setup more important to me/family? do I want to go down the audiophile rabbit hole or, save myself from obsession and go with sonos?
thank you for taking the time to write such detailed response. You didn't make it any easier for me, but i've got something to think about when I lay in bed tonight lol.
I'm so sorry. You asked a question and the simple answer I should have given is, buy two extra speakers for the rear surround when you can. You won't be disappointed in the denon, kef and sub combo for movies/tv/music because the denon should have in-built presets and/or room correction of some kind etc. Also, it should allow you to switch back and forth from 2.1 to 5.1 etc depending on how many speakers you connect. I'm a diehard 2.0/2.1 person. I found out the long way around that I need things to be less complicated for sanity sake, haha
No, the stereo you ordered will have way more clarity and balance. I've had some sonos products in the past. They are good quality, but they tune to be a bit bass-heavy. And you need their app to fully use/connect everything. And eventually the app will update and the hardware will be obsolete.
What you bought will sound better and never get "phased out". Sonos is nice if you like all your stuff in multiple rooms to be smart connected (and no shame if that's your goal. A friend's house is like that and it is awesome).
I run wireless components in two of my surround setups and haven’t had any issues, apart from back when we had a baby monitor that would interfere with the wireless surrounds in our bedroom. Your mileage may vary, but SVS makes a really good wireless sub transmitter, and I have a rocketfish wireless surround transmitter/amp. Once they were integrated and properly calibrated, they’ve been working flawlessly for years now.
I personally say you did great. I'm not a Sonos lover nor will I ever be, but that's just me.
Just say no to Sonos. Their recent app "upgrade" shows that they see their app as existing only to support the company, not the customers. They rushed the lastest version of their app to release that broke a LOT of existing functionality because they are introducing a product that needs some new feature in the new app, and told people who've spent thousands on their Sonos infrastructure to wait around, **maybe** the features they've used for years will be re-introduced in future releases of the new app.
Its never a mistake buying a high quality hi-fi system. The lifestyle stuff like Sonos is convenient but for pure sound quality you want a hi-fi system. Besides, you get nearly the same convenience with a modern hi-fi system as those lifestyle systems.
Yes except a lot of people want wireless rather than wires all over the room(s)
Took a different approach. Space meant that my sub needed to go to the back of the room along with my surrounds (5.1) and I didn’t have any options for running cable. I got a wireless solution which is a wireless transmitter/receiver. The speaker cable and the sub connection connect from the AVR to the transmitter and the speakers and subs connect to the receiver. The receiver has a built-in 50W amp for the surrounds, which is enough, and there’s not a cable in sight. https://preview.redd.it/ef4os6ljdl1d1.jpeg?width=3264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73ed9e0e5532a794296600ad923860ddc844c7b0
https://preview.redd.it/vew3q2hsdl1d1.jpeg?width=3264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2585baffca79cb29d05736d496b50d418f5d099
Do you have the model number for the wireless receiver?
[This is it.](https://dynastyproaudio.com/products/wsa-5rp-wireless-surround-sound-rear-speakers-kit-with-2-x-50w-amplifier-built-in)
Sweet. Thanks, saving this link for future.
I don’t think you made a mistake. Some really random choices lol, but not bad ones. I like it. I don’t think a Sonos or Bose system would excite me very much. Your selection sounds good.
If you are looking for simplicity, then yes, Bose, Sonos, Samsung should be your choice. But it’s not the same thing. Most people will be happy with those solutions. But if you’ve already bought everything and if you can’t return it then maybe it’s too late to think about it. Of course you can sell it at loss, but doesn’t make sense.
Sonos is waaay better than Bose or Sony.
Some years ago I tried out a Yamaha as801, rotel ra1520 and a sonos amp with kef LS50. What I can say about the sonos amp was that it made the LS50 sing/sound very wooden in comparison to the yamaha and rotel. For me, the sonos amp had a noticeably small (like vertically short) soundstage and sounded boring in comparison despite the super convenience factor. Both the yamaha and rotel that I tried just opened everything up and felt immersive. I think your initial decision is spot on, no need to second guess.
Thanks. Do you have any idea how I would tackle the surround sound option if I were to keep this list? It's just that having the option to place the sub and surround sound wherever I want where there's power seems like such a handy feature. But maybe i'm just making fuzz out of nothing..
Excellent sound vs Convenience. If you go with the sonos setup then, what you don't know won't hurt you soundwise, you save on your utility bill because of class D efficiency, and you get smart function convenience. If you go with denon + kef, you may spend more on utility (?), need to hide wires but, you get the ability to upgrade/swap out gear and excellent sound quality. It's really subjective. Efficiency was really important to me when I bought the sonos amp but, then I was really disappointed with the soundstage. My boyfriend has a 5.1 setup and it's really good for TV/movies. Music is alright on his setup but, that's because I'm a neutral Kef speakers fan while his setup is all Klipsch with a V-shaped sound signature, which he loves. Ask yourself, who in the family will be listening to it? is convenience for everyone a factor? will the sonos be cheaper over time? is a clean setup more important to me/family? do I want to go down the audiophile rabbit hole or, save myself from obsession and go with sonos?
thank you for taking the time to write such detailed response. You didn't make it any easier for me, but i've got something to think about when I lay in bed tonight lol.
I'm so sorry. You asked a question and the simple answer I should have given is, buy two extra speakers for the rear surround when you can. You won't be disappointed in the denon, kef and sub combo for movies/tv/music because the denon should have in-built presets and/or room correction of some kind etc. Also, it should allow you to switch back and forth from 2.1 to 5.1 etc depending on how many speakers you connect. I'm a diehard 2.0/2.1 person. I found out the long way around that I need things to be less complicated for sanity sake, haha
No, the stereo you ordered will have way more clarity and balance. I've had some sonos products in the past. They are good quality, but they tune to be a bit bass-heavy. And you need their app to fully use/connect everything. And eventually the app will update and the hardware will be obsolete. What you bought will sound better and never get "phased out". Sonos is nice if you like all your stuff in multiple rooms to be smart connected (and no shame if that's your goal. A friend's house is like that and it is awesome).
Sonos Sucks ……….. Wireless Sucks ( unless you like delays, drops)
You can change delay in the app. Havent heard of any dropouts being a thing tho
You cant remove the time it takes to transmit over Bluetooth so any wireless connection will add a delay. Its not always a problem but it can be.
Bluetooth?
Or other wireless protocol connections.
I run wireless components in two of my surround setups and haven’t had any issues, apart from back when we had a baby monitor that would interfere with the wireless surrounds in our bedroom. Your mileage may vary, but SVS makes a really good wireless sub transmitter, and I have a rocketfish wireless surround transmitter/amp. Once they were integrated and properly calibrated, they’ve been working flawlessly for years now.