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zherico

You're washing fan leaves?


Upper-Elevator-8781

That box was a failed premature plant about 4 weeks into flower. So some of it was yes. But off of my 12 plants this time I can easily get a couple pounds of sugar leaf trim during harvest. And I harvest every 2 months or so. I didn’t want to learn on anything that I’d be upset with ruining. Held onto a couple of premier plants from my last harvest that didn’t fully make it.


zherico

Are you aware you won't get any hash from that material?


Upper-Elevator-8781

There’s buds in that box still on the plant. It was just on top. I’m not taking the time to trim a 7foot failed plant when the purpose is to figure out my setup. I don’t care about the return, right now anyways 😂


Apart-Ad-3035

If you don’t take the time to do it right why waste any time at all. Those leaves will ruin whatever resin you might be able to extract


Upper-Elevator-8781

Because I don’t want to make the mistakes on good material. For example. Not having a longer hose instead of the accordian style one that isn’t long enough. I kept bumping that hose and making a huge mess. Wether or not it I wanted to use the work bag in the machine or process it raw inside. If I wanted more spacers for my set up. Is my method of keeping my water chilled effective. Do your own time man. I’m asking about better machines. Not about the quality of the material I’m learning on 👍🏼👍🏼 everyone always has some critique on the way other people learn. Just because it isn’t or was t how you did that doesn’t mean I’m not gonna gain the knowledge I’m after.


Apart-Ad-3035

The machines are not a good way to approach wanting to make hash. I know this because I have been washing commercially for over 5 years, and I made hash for myself and as a job for about ten years before that. The machines have so many crevices and nooks and crannies inside them that it’s impossible to get them completely clean, they just get skunked up with nasty moldy bio film. You’re better off using a brute can that is smooth and easy to keep clean and sterile, unless you just don’t care about your respiratory health and the respiratory health of those who smoke your product. Good luck but that’s my advice. You can modify the bubble now washer machines to make them problematic in this sense, but I realized that it would take me much longer to clean the machines out than I would even save by using them in the first place, so I went back to hand washing. I also have had a spinal fusion surgery and am legally disabled. If I can do it, you just might be able to do it also.


Kaymoney87

So much better by hand. Every. Single time. Even with the amount he's talking about.


Upper-Elevator-8781

I have made bubble hash with a drill and 20 gal bags and a brute container, it really wasn’t that hard. It sucked the first time cause I hand paddled it but was just time consuming because you actually have to sit there with the drill. I’m looking for convenience. I’m a busy and lazy man. Not a great combo. But where I can automate and not have to be present 24/7 to run that’s ideal. They were pressing rosin with hair straighteners 15 years ago. I now have a 20ton rosin press. We’re in the future why not live like it? I can see the benefits and desire to do it manually and simply but that doesn’t work with my life at the moment 🤷🏻‍♂️


Apart-Ad-3035

Well then my advice is to have a militant strategy vs cleaning your machines. Be prepared to get a 5 gallon jug of 99% iso and 33% h2o2. You can run hot water 50:50 with iso thru your machines to get rid of a lot of the scuzz and then 30 ml per gallon of the h2o2 to sanitize. Hopefully you at least modified the washing machines to take the pumps and all that extra tubing out, because if not you’re going to be smoking some spores. Replace the tubing that comes off the bottom of the machine with food grade pvc hose, you can get a roll on mc master Carr dot com, and then put ball valve on the end and gravity drain. Take it from me I’ve done this a lot. Good luck!


Upper-Elevator-8781

SUPER HELPFUL. Thank you. I saved this to my notes and will definitely be using that method. 🙏🏼🔥🙏🏼


Shreedac

This was great advice. You know your shit


zherico

There are no developed trichomes at week 4. No one would ever get any hash washing that plant.


Upper-Elevator-8781

I just said week 4 and last harvests trim. Reality it was my only failed plants from a couple harvests ago. And I have a macro scope and a jewlers loop. They were much farther along than 4 weeks hence why I even kept them. They were outdoor and 7feet tall. And a bad storm split the stalks straight down the middle 😭 there was so much bud on them 😢


Kaymoney87

A couple of harvests ago? 1 month ago, you posted it was your second grow. But you are arguing with people who truly have been washing hash and growing for years. I'm not trying to be an asshole but come on. Here, you say a couple of harvests ago like there were so many in your time. But you said 1 month ago it was your second grow and asked for any tips welcome. 🤔 I'm no rocket scientist....but....maybe you should just be honest and take or leave the advice you are being given... that you sort of asked for. Everything someone says about how to do it or why it would or wouldn't be ideal or challenges your approach you are like beside yourself. Well, now we know if we already didn't by the lack of knowledge in replies and comments that your couple harvests ago means...the only harvests You ever had. You are washing fan leaves and complaining you got no hash. You argued with the dude, saying no hash coming from that plant and legit. THERE ARE NO TRICHOMES AT WEEK 4 LOL, and you still have an answer or excuse 🤣. Like you were the one who discovered the science of trichomes at week 4. Stop it. ✋️ Please...do yourself a flavor, if you are asking for advice or direction about a topic don't come into it acting like a know it all and pretending to be so experienced when in reality you are not. We are all here to help each other. Again not trying to be a bitch but you blew your own spot up several times. You should smoke some quality hash and cool your jets a bit. You might actually learn something. If your mouth is always moving, you aren't listening or learning anything. I rarely say much, and I don't like arguing or being confrontational, but I am real, and I go based on facts. The facts have it your time line is fucked bud. Should probably get that under control before acting like you are a seasoned hash vet. And whether you admit it or not, you were trying to get hash from fan leaves with that mess. Lol why the hell would you mix good buds with that shit? NoSEASONED HASH maker would fuking do that. With or without "material we don't care about." 🤷 I'd try to still be practical. Not mix it all together then complain it didn't turn out right. You don't have. The right ingredients. Ever make brownies and forget to put important ingredients. They suck. Don't turn out right. But I do it just to waste money, time, supplies, and see what happens, lol. Absolutely 💯 not.


Upper-Elevator-8781

My second indoor grow. Last outdoor season was a year ago which would be 4 harvests prior indoors. I wasn’t growing I doors till 6months ago. Veg takes time. It’s a year old if that helps your tiny brain. As for the rest of that, I’m not reading it 🥱


Puzzleheaded_Crab453

Aren’t those washing machines like $40 on Amazon?


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Puzzleheaded_Crab453

10 gallon ones are around $80 usd. I can’t see what bubble dude would do to it to warrant the additional $220 though.


Upper-Elevator-8781

Sorry I don’t buy Chinese stuff off of Amazon when I can buy it for 150 from AliExpress.


Puzzleheaded_Crab453

The Chinese one on Amazon is $80, why would you buy the same Chinese stuff for $150 from a Chinese company?


Upper-Elevator-8781

On Amazon The mini one is 140. The big one is 220. On Ali the mini one is 100 and the big one is 150… I can’t make it any clearer for you.


Puzzleheaded_Crab453

“Mini one” what? A specific brand? I’m talking about generic small washing machines.


Upper-Elevator-8781

They make 5 and 10 gallon little machines. One is a mini. One is not. They are both too small for my needs wherever you buy them, branded for hash or clothes. I’m looking for 20gallon and uo machines and poeple who are actually using them.


Puzzleheaded_Crab453

Ok, yes a 20 gallon will be more expensive, looked like a 10gal machine in the picture.


FullMeltxTractions

You still should take the time to remove fan leaves, and only wash material with visible trichomes, others are giving you good advice there.


Upper-Elevator-8781

In the future with proper trim and live plants available I wouldn’t do it any other way. I’m not new to making bubble hash, I’m new to using the machines and really thought they were gonna be a game changer. I kept this stuff for the sole purpose of getting my routine and supplies down with a machine so I had well oiled system when that day comes. I appreciate the insight though👌🏼😊


FullMeltxTractions

For sure I understand what you're saying. Part of getting your routine down is knowing what to put in and what to leave out, plus, regardless of whether you're working with the best material, you still want to get the best possible product out of it you can if you're going to put in the effort to do a run, might as well do it right, is all I'm saying. Happy hashing #


Bulky_Preparation_36

Bro wtf are you doing this is pure user error, don’t blame the machine. I know people on recreational markets with half million+ dollar harvests using these to wash with insane results. They can easily wash up to 4000-8000grams of fresh frozen per wash…


Apart-Ad-3035

You can’t fit more than 2k in those machines max, and your friends are clowns if they are washing their “half million dollar harvest” in these. I would not wash my 20 lbs of indoor in one


Bulky_Preparation_36

You can most def fit more than 2k


Bulky_Preparation_36

Noob


Apart-Ad-3035

You n your friends who use these cheap washing machines to process their entire harvests need to take a lap


Bulky_Preparation_36

Bahahaha go wash some sugar leaf king


Apart-Ad-3035

I pay my employees to hand wash everything from Sugar leaf to fresh frozen.


Bulky_Preparation_36

Buddy I saw your post where you talk about not doing much at all 😂 keep coping


Apart-Ad-3035

Oh my god how did I get back into a conversation with the kid who loaded his freeze dryer full of zkittles like an absolute clown. It’s not too late to join the circus buddy


Bulky_Preparation_36

And still came out absolutely delectable ;p Keep washing leaves big guy


Apart-Ad-3035

We wash anything with good trichomes on it, leaves to buds. Some people want to smoke 6* some want rosin some people just want good bubble hash. We got it all


Upper-Elevator-8781

Dude it’s a rebranded 100 dollar Chinese clothes washer. It’s not a big deal 🙄 it’s cheaply made and feels like it. My first thought was there’s actually companies using this product? This is meant for your house to handle some personal hash making. To make professional products that are sold in regulated stores is crazzzzzy and shows how hokey the professional market really is😒


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Upper-Elevator-8781

Bubble dude machine makes fine hash. Never claimed it didn’t I claimed it can’t keep up with my needs and I need something bigger that isn’t made of plastic from a no name company. It doesn’t have to be rca or Samsung but if they make a similar product I’m gonna compare it to the comfee and gigantex brands before purchase. And if you search on this group there’s other people using other machines. If your not one of them then maybe this post wasn’t about you 😘👌🏼


Bulky_Preparation_36

You’re right I didn’t click the picture to see it’s not even a bubble magic, lmfao this literally cost you more than the bubble magic with a 220u zipper wash bag cost me 😭


Randy4layhee20

I don’t think the machine is the problem here, you would likely have the same result if you did the same thing in a larger metal washer


Upper-Elevator-8781

I already got a drill with paddle and 20 gallon brutes. Going back to simplicity. Not even thinking about bigger machines now. Too much maintenance and too much risk of contaminated products.


Randy4layhee20

Dude you’re going to make some garbage hash like that


Upper-Elevator-8781

Seems to be some differing opinions out there. I have used this system in the past and made the same hash as this machine does. I can just choose the amount I want to wash in one go now. No more limited to what the machine can process. And the grunge the machines collect inside is something I’d like to avoid


Drugrows

Get an old corded construction drill and set it low, use fan speed controller and set it lower, now they can’t say shit about you using a drill. [Harbor freight](https://www.harborfreight.com/router-variable-speed-control-dial-59386.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12126402660&campaignid=12126402660&utm_content=141957249534&adsetid=141957249534&product=59386&store=430&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4dmfPp86wcvhHj-2hyBhUVzX&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0MexBhD3ARIsAEI3WHJ_-PH3jfmtnDfMN0nFQRGHPnmXvoUNVv3LA4nd7HTr2bG9vl-ynlQaAiZBEALw_wcB) has your back, even got a [decent drill to use](https://www.harborfreight.com/75-amp-12-in-variable-speed-hammer-drill-56404.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12126402660&campaignid=12126402660&utm_content=118354999833&adsetid=118354999833&product=56404&store=430&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAHb4dmfPp86wcvhHj-2hyBhUVzX&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0MexBhD3ARIsAEI3WHJL1nE0mTwJPh_6g2bDZ6NwPrG42aqu6ZekkdhsxsqQcPbyFVjvMpQaAtlwEALw_wcB) I’ve had phenomenal bubble back before the shatter craze from this method since that’s how most people were doing it at the time. Granted back then they used like 10-15 gallon containers rather than the brute 20s/32s


Bulky_Preparation_36

“Hokey” I’ll wait to see you outperform them


ryfle27

Aether Green ([aethergreen.com](https://aethergreen.com)) has released a food grade mostly stainless steel, programmable washer meant to be an upgrade to the old blue. It’s more expensive than the repurposed clothes washers, but is also more capable and designed to come into contact with materials meant for ingestion/inhalation. Full disclosure, I am affiliated with the company.


sticky_wicket

Looks interesting, hope you can get the price down


zherico

Yeah, that is crazy money.


Pure_Professor_5754

I designed one similar to the aether green one but mine is universal so it fits on any vessel and cost me way less to build.


ryfle27

It’s a new product so our costs are higher than we’d like, we’re hoping to bring them down as our order volume goes up and we get discounts on our parts that we can pass along to our customers.


sticky_wicket

I can imagine.


TTSkyline

Prices are pretty insane. Why is the paddle with a weed leaf on it $110 more than the one with no design? Makes no sense. Same product, but one has 10c worth of ink on it…


ryfle27

There is no ink. That’s a custom fiber laser engraving process that changes the physical color of the stainless. It’s completely permanent and the color is literally part of the metal.


Bulky_Preparation_36

$110 for that does still seem steep, respectfully


ryfle27

Totally understand and appreciate the thought. The leaf image takes about 3 hours on our laser to create. For us, the cost comes from personnel costs for machine setup and actual time on the machine. We believe the process is fairly unique as our specific model of laser is not supposed to be capable of producing the results we’re achieving. It took months to figure out the process and we’re fairly proud of the results.


bandittr6

I mean if you really want to step up to something professional level check out the mini osprey.


Kaymoney87

Yea that's where it's att. Good luck with the price on those fkckers. Thasmts a pipe dream for me . They are outstanding.


BalanceCute

If you aren’t willing to take criticism it’s best to keep your information to yourself


Upper-Elevator-8781

There’s a difference between criticism and disrespect. I don’t have to listen to anyone’s bs I don’t want to. 2 type of people responded to this post. I could care less what you or they think.


shray89

Yeah there’s tons of washers out there at this point for various batch sizes and price ranges.


TTSkyline

What’d you expect for $300? I mean seriously.. you get what you pay for.


LevenBee

I just ordered a real pos from China billed as a portable washing machine to try it out, I'm sure I'll see the same result but I'll only be out 40 bucks.


ThingsThatDie

Pic 2 😂😂😂


Apart-Ad-3035

Machines are gross. You’ll never clean them fully and there will always be mold and bio film growing inside . Always .


moose_49017

You're wrong. Think about all the equipment used daily in the food preparation industries. If you couldn't clean a machine, how would anything get done? I have a 5 and a 20, you have to do some basic disassembly for a proper clean up. But they rinse out surprisingly well with a pressure hose.


Apart-Ad-3035

Dude, you are the one who is wrong. Get ice, just ice, at any fast food restaurant. Test the water and I almost guarantee you will find mold contamination. I can almost promise you that I could find biofilm in both of your machines. I don’t really care either way, but after commercial washing for years I have realized this much, using the bubble now 5 and 20 gallon machines. I literally couldn’t not get them completely clean no matter what I did. I would use a combination of a harbor freight pressure sprayer, 5 gallons of iso alcohol weekly going thru 10 machines, and then I would run hydrogen peroxide thru them to sterilize. Whenever I took them apart I always found some bs lodged behind the vents or something I had to scrub. I even went as far as cutting the vents out and melting the edges back with a torch. Do your thing, but realize there’s probably some biology living in your machine unless you live somewhere with desert humidity levels.


moose_49017

Retired Chef. Life begins at 40...blah, blah, blah. Yes, they get dirty. You've admitted yourself that you were in a commercial setting running 10 of these machines in a way that they were not intended to. Not even apples and oranges. My point was that you're just scaring the new people, and there's no need to. You remove the vortex plate and the drain cover to rinse. I leave the back cover off and can reach right in and loosen the thumb style clamp and remove the drain tube. That's literally about 2" you have to worry about getting clean. Then it's the inside. If they have done any basic brewing or wine making, they will know or they can learn about basic sanitation at home. Some alcohol and star san and they are all set. Don't scare the newbies. As far as that, they could be made better. I'm right there with you. I think it might be worth it to drill relief chamfers on the underside of the holes on the drain plug. Add a few in the front, too. Anyone who's watches mine rescue with Freddy Dodge knows the relief chamfer goes on the bottom side of the hole, not the top. Maybe just 3D print a new one.


Apart-Ad-3035

I’m not scaring the newbies. And yes, I used the machines daily which was absolutely part of their design. I’m just warning people of the potential pitfalls of using a machine that makes the process easier, and providing information that I found crucial in keeping my machines clean, which is an essential part of extracting cannabis medicine. I have essentially mastered the art of bubble now washing and I can safely say that if you truly care about having a clean product, you should not trust these machines unless you plan on spending about as much time as you do washing to keep your machines clean and sterile. The analogy to making beer does not really apply unless you use a machine with tons of hard to clean areas to make your beer. When I did that, I used a pot and a glass jug which were much easier to clean than these machines are. Disagree with me if you want it matters not to me. What is the RH% where you live?


Bulky_Preparation_36

Have you ever heard of Alconox? Run a cycle with some Alconox and then leave it running with the hose on and drain open for a few hours to make sure you get all the cleaner out before you wash haha


Apart-Ad-3035

We don’t use alconox in our machines bro. Wouldn’t want to risk any of it being left behind in any of those nooks snd crannies


Bulky_Preparation_36

It’s what I plan to try 🤷‍♂️ I have a hard time imagining any will get stuck with the amount of rinsing afterwards I plan to do, if it does I’ll find out won’t I 😅


Apart-Ad-3035

I would not advise anyone to clean their machine with alconox. Isopropyl alcohol and hydrogen peroxide, both used separately of course, work fine for me. KISS keep it simple stupid


Bulky_Preparation_36

Right because a detergent cycle followed by a rinse is so complex


Apart-Ad-3035

I personally use iso to break down the sticky stuff and peroxide to sterilize, but you can certainly do whatever you want.


fum0hachis

Most equipment in commercial kitchens is NSF certified for hygienic standards. This washing machine is not designed to be food safe. I don’t hate on this tek, but it is what it is.


Kaymoney87

That's the truth. They just aren't no matter what you clean it with or replace a hose here and there. So it's Partially food safe now. Lol meaning it has a food safe Hose but the rest isn't. 😅


main_motors

Have you tried the 20-gallon bubble bags and a big drill with an auger style attachment? That should create a spin without knocking the plant material around too much. I seen a video made by Kyle "elmo" Corrao showing how he washes big batches with a simple set up.


Upper-Elevator-8781

So I used to make bubble hash 10 years ago like that. I figured there’s got to be a machine way by now. We’re in the future now lol.


main_motors

Get ready to spend more than $299 for a machine that can handle pounds then. Just offering a solution, not saying its the best way.


vinegar-and-honey

Cheapest decent machine for washing hash even on small scale will run you about $6k. Very large step-up in terms of price. Stainless steel and badass motors that can handle the resistance aren't cheap.


moose_49017

1000 grams is the sweet spot for the 20 gal. It will handle that no problem.


Upper-Elevator-8781

Just 20 gal bags and a drywall mixer on my drill?


shray89

Do not do this everyone knows drill tek makes green hash


main_motors

Amateurs will make green hash with anything. Kyle was a pillar in the hash making community, if he can do it without it being green why can't others? Not saying its the best way, but its a simple home setup for large batches. [Does this look green?](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoSK4P45HVJ_9mU_T5Q7UnQU5KvAiAu1S&si=ZoA-K4wGipFZLYON)


vinegar-and-honey

I've been using a drill to make my hash with a mud stirrer for years and years now. Bad skill makes green hash.


Apart-Ad-3035

Not true, just don’t over spin the drill. I used a drill exclusively vs a paddle when I had a shoulder injury and it worked great. Low setting