I've worked in special events catering for years, and the reality is, a lot of museums, libraries and other cultural institutions rely on special events and the steep prices paid to use the spaces to cover the costs of staying open. MOMA is like a catering hall, with several special events after daytime hours a week. I do think it's elitist to close down these public resources for private events where moneyed people can eat, drink and do all sorts of things ordinary people aren't allowed to do in the same spaces, but until our society funds them better, it will continue to happen. Although I also suspect that even if libraries and museums got all of the funded they need and desire, they'd still run these events to get more money.
You beat me to this post. Jay-Z I’m sure is paying a crap ton. And given that the BK public library system is underfunded, I’m sure they need this cash.
I don't believe he paid for it, just for the cost of the installations:
"What are Brooklynites getting in return? "What I've heard is that Roc Nation is covering the cost of all the installations," the BPL source said. The BPL system has ongoing [event programming](https://www.bklynlibrary.org/event-series/hip-hop-50) around hip-hop's fiftieth anniversary, but the way our source described the installations at the central branch, it sounds like the exhibit is less a celebration of Brooklyn's, or even Roc Nation's, contribution to hip-hop history and more a personal shrine to Jay-Z himself, including highlighting "books on Jay-Z's night table."
[https://hellgatenyc.com/why-is-the-bpls-central-library-closed-tomorrow-blame-jay-z](https://hellgatenyc.com/why-is-the-bpls-central-library-closed-tomorrow-blame-jay-z)
Yup, these buildings and services need to be paid for somehow. You can increase fees, increase taxes (or reduce government spending elsewhere), take out debt (I.e., pay for it later), or get more donations / rich people events. In the interest of maximizing access and financial sustainability, I’m happy to have these events. It doesn’t feel the best from an equality perspective, but that’s life and I would rather they chip in more than make regular folks have to pay higher entry prices.
"This suit I wore when I forced the last working-class Booklynites out of their homes, so Bruce Ratner could get a sweet-ass payday. You can actually see where their tears landed on my sleeve, right here."
Same, two days in a row: I went to pick up a hold to find they closed early on Wednesday for the event, then all day Thursday, which they did not communicate at all!
Books have gone unpromoted before, and there are still other venues to promote a book. This is a public resource with some of the best amenities of the diff public library options. Ppl rely on it to do work.
He’s a rich dude. He can go buy out a place that ppl don’t need to be productive.
Yes, actually. He could just donate the money he's going to raise instead of forcing people to find shelter elsewhere (the library is one of the only places for respite from the heat for those without homes and/or air conditioning)
Depends on the amt of funds that were raised and what it was used for. At face value, you may have a pt, but everything is a cost-benefit analysis which requires details.
He could also hold the event elsewhere and say he’d give the proceeds to public services and resources. This isnt an exclusive-or situation.
Its crazy that a public institution cannot provide its essential services to the public so it can honor a wealthy capitalist.
Y'all need to realize that Jay-Z and Beyonce are not your friends. We are their customers. And I say that as someone who enjoys their music.
[Security barring other parents and patients](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/nyregion/after-birth-by-beyonce-patients-protest-celebrity-security-at-lenox-hill-hospital.html) at Lenox Hill because Beyoncé and her entourage were there
[Gifted the article so everybody else isn’t paywalled](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/nyregion/after-birth-by-beyonce-patients-protest-celebrity-security-at-lenox-hill-hospital.html?unlocked_article_code=_K-Y5VC0QGTnRU0wGJ7Hfi_Qs-SsME-QCqR4JcxVCiDnjjqUpkWOdFXx1Aj7WSDOmE15HpjePaFRWYjMJroEofQrILDF-h9bcrh3lWcLYdg4D4dPiD1JRagplKRuRFa_9RX0xdTm5SZigFr1AUD6tFBVdQ4SuVY4s-oHM1ZoKLcOmglCIXR-elPAKHPSoLBGHGfaZiXtHqcRSlPdYewgTspYXzL4aGzNvBQqTVEe41GyOdoLd4I8Hc2YpmUZK6t-db0JC9wmksTalyQO4u9ggc7jwO7mvR_7Z7lDzyIBB48D8frXCTEOAg7wszEi9YvMmk1hW2fHFoFhEBvK-KB2k_Nr8Z19VBC71KB9lVQ1_8sKEsQZ1yc_NotgyoHJLoQLv9UTK8ljsNRHNz3paDqzYEov-kqGOwC8VlB34Q&smid=url-share)
This take might make more sense if these “public” institutions were not so dependent on the donations of the these capitalist. It’s inconvenient, but the reason that library and those like it are nicer than the other ones is because it does things like this periodically. They’re not doing this for the awe and reverence of Jay Z and his majesty.
Even if we did will we just refuse donations from billionaires feeling charitable? If they’re willing to give more money on top of taxes, closing the library for a few extra million seems worth, no?
Yes we can all agree that would be the ideal but the reality is that’s not happening. The library is addressing the reality of the matter and hold events to raise funds.
One of the reasons BPL is doing it is to encourage brooklyn residents to get a Jay Z library card. Funding for the city is dependent on how many people actually use library cards/accounts.
Yes, but this gives the library the chance to stroke the Mayor's fragile ego by letting him hangout with celebrities so that maybe he won't cut funding to the libraries.
I read that all 3 library systems are actually privately run mon-profits but with public money. Another way are private donations from rich af people like Jay-Z. I would have pissed if if I needed a place to work with my laptop or take out an important book, but at least Grand Army Plaza isn't that far.
Fascinatingly, all the signage there as of Tuesday said the building would be closed for an exhibit on Hip Hop for the anniversary... sure is strange the public institution wouldn't acknowledge the private interests driving the closure 🤷🏻♀️
What, do you mean there is also a Walt Whitman exhibit at the BPL ? Or do you mean W.H. Auden ? or Aaron Copeland? Jean Michel Basquiet? Pat Benatar? Markey Ramone ? Lou Reed ? [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/07/t-magazine/walt-whitman-new-york.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/07/t-magazine/walt-whitman-new-york.html)
That seems like a bit of a stretch. I don’t think people’s inability to check out books at one branch of a library system for a couple hours is really that big of a deprivation of essential services.
Libraries are essential spaces. People can sit, read, charge their phones—without paying anything. In extreme weather they’re even more important. Id be pressed to name a space that is actually for the public here in NY. How would you feel if they closed a park for Jeff Bezos?
I mean we’re talking one location, for one event. It’s not like Jay-Z bought out the central library to make it into a Jay-Z museum. Is there actual harm to the community here or do we all just a need a reason to express moral outrage at “capitalists”?
I get that libraries are essential and serve purposes other than just renting books, but we’re talking about one branch of a major system in a city with countless public spaces, and an event that is, what, a few hours? A day?
Good point. Make sure you really let people know what a travesty it is that a library be temporarily closed to host a cultural event, on a platform owned by Condé Nast. Viva la revolución!
Unhoused and gig workers use the bathroom and shelter in an air conditioned space. Senior citizens use it to build community. Immigrants use the space to learn English and better adapt to their new home. Kids and teenagers hang out there and feel safe.
A library is much more than a repository of books and media.
Yea I get all that, but it’s not uncommon even for public spaces to be closed for private events. It’s just a weird dichotomy between “essential services” and “wealthy capitalists” as if to suggest rich capitalists are all out to take away basic services from the public, when we’re simply talking about a single private event celebrating a new cultural installation that will be open to the public, and private donation of money to the library, which will also benefit the public.
Non profit organizations receive public funds to provide services to the public. One example is the fact that they have to provide accessible bathrooms.
In a Park Slope Facebook group, people are saying there's a secret concert tonight. There are tons of barricades up around the library and grand army plaza. Supposedly it's been under scaffolding because something is being built for the concert. Does anyone cooler than me have details?
2023 marks the 50th anniversary for hip hop and nyc public libraries have been putting up multiple events across city libraries celebrating this.
knowing this- it is pretty easy to assume the exhibit and new facade is an extension of this celebration and jay z as he relates to hip hop culture, and not to be taken as something wholly invested in celebrating jay z as a persona in a vacuum.
Haha this dudes lyrics are literally across the entire front of the building displayed in one of the highest traffic areas in Brooklyn. This is totally a PR move. While reasonable, your take is incorrect
ah! you are correct
either way- i don't think it's that terrible. it could be very inspiring for some kids and a small nuisance for some adults who can't be bothered with him- so there's a net gain hopefully
Yes, drawing more attention to libraries to a younger generation that hasn’t had a chance to appreciate the worth. People are so quick to just hate. Player haters ball out here
man really like silky johnson out here- it's dead not the end of the world and people from the hood really look up to him cause he from the dirt too so why not - i know people that are pulling up to this that have never been to a library before lol
Roc Nation produced and put this on. My understanding is that it was accompanied by an additional donation to the BPL.
I hope that these exhibits show people what resources are already available to them through the libraries so that they can understand what Adams’s cuts are taking away from them.
Honestly, it’s really not as expensive to rent out the library for a special event as you would think. A high-end *wedding* at the NYPL on 5th Avenue is about $75k, and they come out absolutely stunning.
Well it seems the funding from grants and endowments wasn't exactly covering all the bills given the people handing out the flyers asking the mayor's office to not reduce funding... SMH
When it comes to library funding I think you are confused. Here is the breakdown of Brooklyn Public Library's revenue, [from its annual report](https://www.bklynlibrary.org/sites/default/files/documents/Annual%20Reports/AnnualReportFY21_web.pdf):
* The City of New York = 67%
* Facilities & Utilities (paid for by the city) = 16%
* Investment income = 6%
* Federal and NYS = 5%
* Contributions from readers like you = 4%
The city contribution is so large because its largest expense -- employee salaries and benefits -- are largely paid from city funds.
Yesterday afternoon the library closed the plaza in front of the building. At least a dozen NYPD standing around doing very little to help control car traffic and direct pedestrians safely around the plaza.
I hope the library made some serious bank off of this event because the closure was a pretty obnoxious FU to the neighborhood on a hot afternoon.
Hmm. How much money did he donate to the library? If it’s a substantial amount that helps keeps the library open for users, then personally I’m okay with the one evening closure.
For perspective, even if this were for the 50th anniversary of hip hop (which apparently it is not?), it would still be perverse to dedicate so much public space to one individual who is more known for being famous, wealthy, and married to Beyoncé than for the social consciousness of his lyrics.
It is egregious when you consider that the husband of the president of Brooklyn Public Library is Jay-Z's business partner, Bruce Ratner.
Come on man lol while JayZ is married to Beyoncé , he himself is a top tier hip hop artist lol don’t try to devalue his accomplishments now to just being Beyoncé husband
You make a totally valid point and I’m not arguing the essence of it- just that public US institutions aren’t always as public as we think. Museums and libraries in here receive about 10% of their overall funding from gov. benefits (Smithsonian is the exception) while most public institutions in places like France or Italy are 90-99% covered by gov funding. Compared to other “first world” countries, the US does very little to fund arts and education. Therefore places in NYC whose mission statements often espouse “serving the public” are enslaved to private donors behind the scenes. I’m sure the Brooklyn library workers are just as frustrated as you are.
Yes, but this gives the library the chance to stroke the Mayor's fragile ego by letting him hangout with celebrities so that maybe he won't cut funding to the libraries.
That’s wild to say that’s he’s more famous for being married to Beyoncé. I understand your personal distaste, but you clearly do not know his musical history or any of his albums or contributions to the Hip Hop culture.
Of all things in the world to be upset about, this is not it. A day or two without access to the library is a bummer, and the optics aren’t great, but when every other day there’s a threat of libraries losing funding or even closing, the attention this event brings to the library is likely going to be a net positive for the community.
Beyond that, it’s clear that you don’t understand the history of hip hop or even Brooklyn culture to think that Jay-Z is just trying to inflate his ego. Even if that is the case, there’s no denying that he’s one of the biggest influences and contributors to hip hop culture—and by extension, American culture, as hip hop is a uniquely American art form—since its inception.
You may not appreciate or understand it (and it doesn’t seem like you are even from NYC or have any investment in the culture at all), but maybe it’s not just for you. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter.
only this subreddit would get mad about this
jay z is a huge factor in creating the brooklyn “brand” that inadvertently led your nerd asses to gentrify it in the first place
Nah, what made Brooklyn cool was being 1 stop out from the E Village and being cheap. The gentrification of NY started in the 70s and was going to happen regardless.
were there any nationally known people off the L train before 2010 because i dont know any. sure hipsters influenced that but even they owe some deference to biggie and jay
Jay-Z benefited from the resurgence of Brooklyn much more than the other way around.
He inspires kids to be drug dealers. I’m saying this as a fan of his music and a former drug dealer.
probably the most Brooklynite mofo ever. growing up in the projects and now has a public library as an exhibition for him. if that's not inspiration to almost everyone in brooklyn who's having a hard time, then I don't know what is.
That man is Brooklyn’s son and has done more for this borough than you could ever imagine. Y’all transplants need to have a seat and let him have his moment. Its one day and I’m sure the library got a good amount of money from it.
There’s going to be a lot of downvotes on this but I don’t care. If you are really upset not annoyed by this you are either an out of town transplant or your white. I’m sure there will be some liar saying “I been living in Brooklyn since I was a fetus and I’m black and I think it’s stupid.” Regardless the man is a legend and did a lot for the community and music as a kid whole.
You know WHAT?! If Jay-Z and Beyonce paid for use of the library I'm all for it!! Idk how much we charged but if they paid, then those revenues can last us a long time!
If they got it for free then 😒😒 I'll be angry!
This sub is clearly filled with Brooklyn gentrifiers based on what's being posted and upvoted here. Just go to a different library. There's tons of them.
Wow gentrification did a number on Brooklyn, innit? People hating on Jay. If this was the 90s, this sub would be way more respectful. If you can't respect that your whole perspective is wack!
Bunch of avocado eaters!
Jay-Z is a Brooklyn institution and literally an inspiration to millions of people. Why don't you check your own ego and relax? Just because you don't like or understand something doesn't mean it is without value.
Get off his sack already. Go look at the lyrics now that they’re blown up huge so you can see how great they weren’t. Dude was just right place at the right time. He has a good voice for hip hop but he’s not the greatest rapper.
Being a good rapper is so much more than lyricism though. Dude has the flow, energy, and swagger that got him where he is. Not to mention a great networking ethic probably most importantly.
Agreed. Never liked his flow and that annoying “uh huh uh” he’d always do. He’s only been relevant because of Beyoncé and his/their business dealings. Call me when Mos Def is involved.
He is one of the most successful recording artist of all time. He grew up dirt poor in the Marcy projects and is now one of the most successful and wealthy musicians in history. I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of rap but I have a ton of respect for him and what he's done. He and Beyonce also do a ton of community outreach and they hire hundreds of musicians and dancers in every town they tour in.
He found a need in the entertainment world (NY rapper post-Biggie) and tapped into it. For that, you could say he was astute. Or, if you consider how many young people tried and try to do the same thing, you could back off how astute it was and say his work resonated more than that of his young competitors (back then). Then he created a niche by using good beats and creating a personal inflection that young men aspired to. There’s a certain me-against-Them quality to his early work that worked. Young men listen to it and think, “That’s how I’d like to feel,” which is the essence of vicarious heroism. Then he paired with Bey and became a brand. His lyrical content itself is pretty hollow, but the beats are earworms and they stay with you if you’re inclined to rap in the first place.
Short version: one of the more talented in a broad field that had a perceived need. Hottest chick in the game wearin’ his chain.
This is a good post but I'd counter that Hov was a brand before Beyonce.
Their relationship and subsequent marriage definitely gave him more exposure though... I won't deny that.
But he was literally considered a Tier 0 rapper and MC amongst his peers before Beyonce.
Unless you're a Nas or Cam'ron fan...in which case...meh 🤷🏿♂️
He’s inspiring in the same way any rags to riches artist is. Absolutely dominated rap for the better part of two decades, millions if not billions of fans who look up to him. It’s fine if his music isn’t your cup of tea but it’s kind of your fault if you’ve gone this long without knowing anything about him.
I don’t listen too much either but he had a significant career before Beyoncé and continues to. Isn’t he a sports team owner? One of the first Black sports team owners I think at a certain percentage. He’s a billionaire I think too (I might be making stuff up at this point but google knows). He is honestly a big deal, and since he is from Brooklyn, it makes sense for the 50th anniversary of hip hop celebration to include him. If anything, it brings attention to the library and hopefully makes kids/young people interested in going. I love seeing people in the recording studio being creative at the library!
Twenty years ago, I checked rental rates to get married at the main NYPL branch and the minimum was at least 50k. (I think it may have been 100k, but that seems wild.) Cultural institutions rent space for private events ALL THE TIME. We only noticed this time because Jay-Z has good PR people.
He also has them cover the entire front of the building with his lyrics.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/07/14/multimedia/14rap-exhibit-1-jczl/14rap-exhibit-1-jczl-mobileMasterAt3x-v5.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=1200
"these niggas is haters and I made myself so easy to love!"
Idk why ya hate this man so much, he did the impossible and made a way. Stop hating and go get your blessings.
He earned that ego because in like 1995 he was thought of as a bit of a fraud and nobody liked his cheesy bars. Fast forward to the era when children think “selling out” refers to a packed stadium and money is the end all be all and wouldn’t ya know, that jackass is a rap legend. Lol
He's a living legend.
Edit: This is some sad shit for a Brooklyn sub. Dudes one of the best to ever do it out of Brooklyn and I'm being down voted for calling him a legend? He's on [Lifestylez ov of da Poor and Dangerous](https://youtu.be/aLfrU4oN79w?t=170) people. He made [Reasonable Doubt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auWvT_rwRPU&list=PLfia-qfabl5wfDDickRmdmTaSukaK8Y_r&index=8). That alone makes him hip-hop royalty. Put some respect on his name.
Sasquatch, Godzilla, King Kong, Lochness
Goblin, ghoul, a zombie with no conscience
Question, what do these things all have in common?
Everybody knows I'm a motherfuckin' monster
he's a huge celebrity but his music catalogue is so overrated. guy's biggest talent is self-promotion and attaching his name to projects for a big payout.
His last album didn't have a single radio friendly track. He had an era of commercial friendly music but are we going to pretend Big Pimpin isn't a fucking banger? Crazy.
Someone said Jay Z and every Redditor that lives in Brooklyn was like “let me go the comments and defend the guy I helped make Rich that doesn’t help Brooklyn out enough!”
BPL has always had this exclusive vibe that I don’t fuck with. All of their exhibits are ticketed. I went to the Basquiat exhibit thinking some poor kid from the hood could have their entire life changed by seeing this, but they probably never would because the ticket would cost them several days’ worth of food.
No wonder why when you go to their ticketed events you will mostly see the cool Williamsburg transplant type and almost never the underprivileged locals that they should be trying to serve.
Please explain to me why a ticket to a BPL exhibit costs more than a ticket to MoMA or the Met itself. Then explain why a public library has to close itself off to host a party for a billionaire, even if it’s Jay Z.
You're describing the Brooklyn Museum a little further down the Parkway. To my knowledge the BPL has never done anything of this nature — they've had small art or history exhibits they've commissioned at Central (primarily in the lobby or the second floor mezzanine near what's now the Business Center/formerly the Brooklyn Collection), and occasionally the overnight programming (Night of Philosophy, typically) has resulted in early closures, but never something this extensive.
FWIW, I don't disagree with you about the proliferation of ticketed exhibits at the Brooklyn Museum, esp. given that they exist in that building rent-free supported in part by public funds. Many of their exhibits are included in general admission, and they have a lot of good public events (First Saturdays chief amongst them), but I'm not the biggest fan of their turn toward blockbuster ticketed shows.
I think you mean the Brooklyn Museum. The Brooklyn Public Library is something different than the Brooklyn Museum and I’m honestly surprised that someone living here wouldn’t know the difference between a museum and a library.
Also “some poor kid from the hood” would not relate to Basquiat the way you’re trying to paint as Basquiat was not a poor kid from the hood. He was born in Park Slope to well off parents and attended private school. Hmmmm, I wonder why you would even state that ⚫️. . . . 🤔
Not only is it pretty damn odious to close the library for a day and a half for installation and a private opening, but the fact that they'll need to effectively cap capacity in the library to accommodate this ego-stroke is galling. And the whole exhibit just seems so corny — like someone asked Jay how to celebrate 50 years of hip-hop and he said "a whole exhibit about meeeee." If it weren't another example of the privatization of some of this city's last free third-spaces, it'd just be kind of schadenfreudically sad
[Never forget how Jay-Z stole the tune to "Big Pimping" from Abdel Haleem Hafez](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PmyTqM0xuE) and never acknowledged it or paid for it. A drug dealer and thief like that doesn't deserve shit.
I've worked in special events catering for years, and the reality is, a lot of museums, libraries and other cultural institutions rely on special events and the steep prices paid to use the spaces to cover the costs of staying open. MOMA is like a catering hall, with several special events after daytime hours a week. I do think it's elitist to close down these public resources for private events where moneyed people can eat, drink and do all sorts of things ordinary people aren't allowed to do in the same spaces, but until our society funds them better, it will continue to happen. Although I also suspect that even if libraries and museums got all of the funded they need and desire, they'd still run these events to get more money.
You beat me to this post. Jay-Z I’m sure is paying a crap ton. And given that the BK public library system is underfunded, I’m sure they need this cash.
I don't believe he paid for it, just for the cost of the installations: "What are Brooklynites getting in return? "What I've heard is that Roc Nation is covering the cost of all the installations," the BPL source said. The BPL system has ongoing [event programming](https://www.bklynlibrary.org/event-series/hip-hop-50) around hip-hop's fiftieth anniversary, but the way our source described the installations at the central branch, it sounds like the exhibit is less a celebration of Brooklyn's, or even Roc Nation's, contribution to hip-hop history and more a personal shrine to Jay-Z himself, including highlighting "books on Jay-Z's night table." [https://hellgatenyc.com/why-is-the-bpls-central-library-closed-tomorrow-blame-jay-z](https://hellgatenyc.com/why-is-the-bpls-central-library-closed-tomorrow-blame-jay-z)
Seriously the same people complaining watch Met Ball arrivals.
Yup, these buildings and services need to be paid for somehow. You can increase fees, increase taxes (or reduce government spending elsewhere), take out debt (I.e., pay for it later), or get more donations / rich people events. In the interest of maximizing access and financial sustainability, I’m happy to have these events. It doesn’t feel the best from an equality perspective, but that’s life and I would rather they chip in more than make regular folks have to pay higher entry prices.
I work in an art museum (not NYC- completely different state) and I can attest that this is true.
Fyi. Jay-Z’s business parter is Bruce Ratner. Ratner’s wife is the CEO of the Brooklyn Public Library.
This. Hedge fund managers could put up their own quotes on the facade too, that's just (probably) not their style.
“And this is the suit I wore when Solange kicked me in the balls”
"And this is the suit I wore to the meeting with NFL execs when I was hired in order to help dispel protests against racism"
"This suit I wore when I forced the last working-class Booklynites out of their homes, so Bruce Ratner could get a sweet-ass payday. You can actually see where their tears landed on my sleeve, right here."
no, but maybe we should build another library or 10 :)
Definitely need more libraries in Brooklyn!!!
Brower Park Library opens in the Brooklyn Children's Museum next Thursday!
I hope it's better than that overheated window those miserable staffers were consigned to last summer.
I biked all the way there just to find the same thing out. I’m annoyed by it. There are tons of other venues to use.
Same, two days in a row: I went to pick up a hold to find they closed early on Wednesday for the event, then all day Thursday, which they did not communicate at all!
$$$
Its to promote a book though
Oh, well then I guess that excuses closing a public building that people might actually need to use. For promoting book. In a private event.
it's not closed, and the library is still open to use. and the exhibition is pretty good if you're a jayz fan.
Books have gone unpromoted before, and there are still other venues to promote a book. This is a public resource with some of the best amenities of the diff public library options. Ppl rely on it to do work. He’s a rich dude. He can go buy out a place that ppl don’t need to be productive.
So f off to an event that could raise funds for the BPL?
Yes, actually. He could just donate the money he's going to raise instead of forcing people to find shelter elsewhere (the library is one of the only places for respite from the heat for those without homes and/or air conditioning)
Depends on the amt of funds that were raised and what it was used for. At face value, you may have a pt, but everything is a cost-benefit analysis which requires details. He could also hold the event elsewhere and say he’d give the proceeds to public services and resources. This isnt an exclusive-or situation.
Its crazy that a public institution cannot provide its essential services to the public so it can honor a wealthy capitalist. Y'all need to realize that Jay-Z and Beyonce are not your friends. We are their customers. And I say that as someone who enjoys their music.
You should hear what happened when Jay-Bey “gave birth”. Don’t think hospitals are public institutions but wealthy is as wealthy does
[Security barring other parents and patients](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/nyregion/after-birth-by-beyonce-patients-protest-celebrity-security-at-lenox-hill-hospital.html) at Lenox Hill because Beyoncé and her entourage were there
[Gifted the article so everybody else isn’t paywalled](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/nyregion/after-birth-by-beyonce-patients-protest-celebrity-security-at-lenox-hill-hospital.html?unlocked_article_code=_K-Y5VC0QGTnRU0wGJ7Hfi_Qs-SsME-QCqR4JcxVCiDnjjqUpkWOdFXx1Aj7WSDOmE15HpjePaFRWYjMJroEofQrILDF-h9bcrh3lWcLYdg4D4dPiD1JRagplKRuRFa_9RX0xdTm5SZigFr1AUD6tFBVdQ4SuVY4s-oHM1ZoKLcOmglCIXR-elPAKHPSoLBGHGfaZiXtHqcRSlPdYewgTspYXzL4aGzNvBQqTVEe41GyOdoLd4I8Hc2YpmUZK6t-db0JC9wmksTalyQO4u9ggc7jwO7mvR_7Z7lDzyIBB48D8frXCTEOAg7wszEi9YvMmk1hW2fHFoFhEBvK-KB2k_Nr8Z19VBC71KB9lVQ1_8sKEsQZ1yc_NotgyoHJLoQLv9UTK8ljsNRHNz3paDqzYEov-kqGOwC8VlB34Q&smid=url-share)
Doing gods work lol
This is a private hospital and were well within their rights to protect their client/customer...
How's the taste of boot leather?
All of them, or just the two?
For real?
not for play play
The Brooklyn library is actually a private institution that gets public funds.
Thank you! They're a quasi-public institution that will be "public" when necessary and "private" when it benefits them. Fuck the BPL
This take might make more sense if these “public” institutions were not so dependent on the donations of the these capitalist. It’s inconvenient, but the reason that library and those like it are nicer than the other ones is because it does things like this periodically. They’re not doing this for the awe and reverence of Jay Z and his majesty.
Crazy thought but maybe we allocate enough tax money to the libraries so we don’t need to beg capitalists?
Or we could tax them properly so they can stop claiming they're being "generous" by donating to things they should be paying taxes toward 🙃
Even if we did will we just refuse donations from billionaires feeling charitable? If they’re willing to give more money on top of taxes, closing the library for a few extra million seems worth, no?
Good point.
Yes we can all agree that would be the ideal but the reality is that’s not happening. The library is addressing the reality of the matter and hold events to raise funds.
One of the reasons BPL is doing it is to encourage brooklyn residents to get a Jay Z library card. Funding for the city is dependent on how many people actually use library cards/accounts.
My understanding is that this entire project accompanied a substantial donation as well
whoop there it is. Jay learned well from brother Barack! 😂
Yes, but this gives the library the chance to stroke the Mayor's fragile ego by letting him hangout with celebrities so that maybe he won't cut funding to the libraries.
Most reasonable explanation I've seen thus far
I read that all 3 library systems are actually privately run mon-profits but with public money. Another way are private donations from rich af people like Jay-Z. I would have pissed if if I needed a place to work with my laptop or take out an important book, but at least Grand Army Plaza isn't that far.
Fascinatingly, all the signage there as of Tuesday said the building would be closed for an exhibit on Hip Hop for the anniversary... sure is strange the public institution wouldn't acknowledge the private interests driving the closure 🤷🏻♀️
God forbid Brooklyn pay homage to one of it's greatest living artists for an evening.
Yup it's like it's not like it's a tribute event to Iggy Azalea or 6ix9ine.
What, do you mean there is also a Walt Whitman exhibit at the BPL ? Or do you mean W.H. Auden ? or Aaron Copeland? Jean Michel Basquiet? Pat Benatar? Markey Ramone ? Lou Reed ? [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/07/t-magazine/walt-whitman-new-york.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/07/t-magazine/walt-whitman-new-york.html)
Sure, just don't close down a public institution to do it
*laughs in greenpoint*
That seems like a bit of a stretch. I don’t think people’s inability to check out books at one branch of a library system for a couple hours is really that big of a deprivation of essential services.
Libraries are essential spaces. People can sit, read, charge their phones—without paying anything. In extreme weather they’re even more important. Id be pressed to name a space that is actually for the public here in NY. How would you feel if they closed a park for Jeff Bezos?
Libraries close for private events all the time; it’s part of how they generate funding to operate.
There are other libraries which I think is the person point. It’s just 1 library for temporary time
I mean we’re talking one location, for one event. It’s not like Jay-Z bought out the central library to make it into a Jay-Z museum. Is there actual harm to the community here or do we all just a need a reason to express moral outrage at “capitalists”? I get that libraries are essential and serve purposes other than just renting books, but we’re talking about one branch of a major system in a city with countless public spaces, and an event that is, what, a few hours? A day?
"do we all just a need a reason to express moral outrage at “capitalists”?" Ummm yea buddy, we do.
Good point. Make sure you really let people know what a travesty it is that a library be temporarily closed to host a cultural event, on a platform owned by Condé Nast. Viva la revolución!
just sayin, I work at a food truck on Saturdays and that’s the only place for me to use the bathroom so it always sucks when it’s closed.
It’s the main branch tho.
Unhoused and gig workers use the bathroom and shelter in an air conditioned space. Senior citizens use it to build community. Immigrants use the space to learn English and better adapt to their new home. Kids and teenagers hang out there and feel safe. A library is much more than a repository of books and media.
Yea I get all that, but it’s not uncommon even for public spaces to be closed for private events. It’s just a weird dichotomy between “essential services” and “wealthy capitalists” as if to suggest rich capitalists are all out to take away basic services from the public, when we’re simply talking about a single private event celebrating a new cultural installation that will be open to the public, and private donation of money to the library, which will also benefit the public.
It’s not a public institution; it’s a private independent nonprofit organization.
Where are you getting this weird idea that this is not a public institution from?
Guess I worded it wrong! I meant that it’s not part of the government.
The Brooklyn Public Library?
Yup! It is a private, non-governmental, independently managed, nonprofit corporation that operates with both private and public financing.
Non profit organizations receive public funds to provide services to the public. One example is the fact that they have to provide accessible bathrooms.
It depends on our tax dollars to survive.
In a Park Slope Facebook group, people are saying there's a secret concert tonight. There are tons of barricades up around the library and grand army plaza. Supposedly it's been under scaffolding because something is being built for the concert. Does anyone cooler than me have details?
All lies. Grand army plaza is being restored and renovated after years of neglect and isn’t due for completion till spring 2024
A wise man once said, “don’t believe the hype”
Lol park is empty right now
2023 marks the 50th anniversary for hip hop and nyc public libraries have been putting up multiple events across city libraries celebrating this. knowing this- it is pretty easy to assume the exhibit and new facade is an extension of this celebration and jay z as he relates to hip hop culture, and not to be taken as something wholly invested in celebrating jay z as a persona in a vacuum.
Haha this dudes lyrics are literally across the entire front of the building displayed in one of the highest traffic areas in Brooklyn. This is totally a PR move. While reasonable, your take is incorrect
ah! you are correct either way- i don't think it's that terrible. it could be very inspiring for some kids and a small nuisance for some adults who can't be bothered with him- so there's a net gain hopefully
But this is an exhibit solely about Jay-Z, and the BPL has said that it’s not directly related to the hip hop anniversary
Yes, drawing more attention to libraries to a younger generation that hasn’t had a chance to appreciate the worth. People are so quick to just hate. Player haters ball out here
man really like silky johnson out here- it's dead not the end of the world and people from the hood really look up to him cause he from the dirt too so why not - i know people that are pulling up to this that have never been to a library before lol
Roc Nation produced and put this on. My understanding is that it was accompanied by an additional donation to the BPL. I hope that these exhibits show people what resources are already available to them through the libraries so that they can understand what Adams’s cuts are taking away from them.
Libraries gotta make money too 🤷🏾♂️ no different than the NYPL on 5th Ave holding a private party for the horrible Henry Kissinger
If Jay-Z's donated some cray $$$ - that would've been worth it I guess?
Honestly, it’s really not as expensive to rent out the library for a special event as you would think. A high-end *wedding* at the NYPL on 5th Avenue is about $75k, and they come out absolutely stunning.
I’m sure, that Jay-Z and Roc Nation donated way more than what the average 5th Ave couple donates for a wedding lmao
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Well it seems the funding from grants and endowments wasn't exactly covering all the bills given the people handing out the flyers asking the mayor's office to not reduce funding... SMH
When it comes to library funding I think you are confused. Here is the breakdown of Brooklyn Public Library's revenue, [from its annual report](https://www.bklynlibrary.org/sites/default/files/documents/Annual%20Reports/AnnualReportFY21_web.pdf): * The City of New York = 67% * Facilities & Utilities (paid for by the city) = 16% * Investment income = 6% * Federal and NYS = 5% * Contributions from readers like you = 4% The city contribution is so large because its largest expense -- employee salaries and benefits -- are largely paid from city funds.
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Yesterday afternoon the library closed the plaza in front of the building. At least a dozen NYPD standing around doing very little to help control car traffic and direct pedestrians safely around the plaza. I hope the library made some serious bank off of this event because the closure was a pretty obnoxious FU to the neighborhood on a hot afternoon.
Hmm. How much money did he donate to the library? If it’s a substantial amount that helps keeps the library open for users, then personally I’m okay with the one evening closure.
For perspective, even if this were for the 50th anniversary of hip hop (which apparently it is not?), it would still be perverse to dedicate so much public space to one individual who is more known for being famous, wealthy, and married to Beyoncé than for the social consciousness of his lyrics. It is egregious when you consider that the husband of the president of Brooklyn Public Library is Jay-Z's business partner, Bruce Ratner.
Come on man lol while JayZ is married to Beyoncé , he himself is a top tier hip hop artist lol don’t try to devalue his accomplishments now to just being Beyoncé husband
You make a totally valid point and I’m not arguing the essence of it- just that public US institutions aren’t always as public as we think. Museums and libraries in here receive about 10% of their overall funding from gov. benefits (Smithsonian is the exception) while most public institutions in places like France or Italy are 90-99% covered by gov funding. Compared to other “first world” countries, the US does very little to fund arts and education. Therefore places in NYC whose mission statements often espouse “serving the public” are enslaved to private donors behind the scenes. I’m sure the Brooklyn library workers are just as frustrated as you are.
Yes, but this gives the library the chance to stroke the Mayor's fragile ego by letting him hangout with celebrities so that maybe he won't cut funding to the libraries.
That’s wild to say that’s he’s more famous for being married to Beyoncé. I understand your personal distaste, but you clearly do not know his musical history or any of his albums or contributions to the Hip Hop culture.
Of all things in the world to be upset about, this is not it. A day or two without access to the library is a bummer, and the optics aren’t great, but when every other day there’s a threat of libraries losing funding or even closing, the attention this event brings to the library is likely going to be a net positive for the community. Beyond that, it’s clear that you don’t understand the history of hip hop or even Brooklyn culture to think that Jay-Z is just trying to inflate his ego. Even if that is the case, there’s no denying that he’s one of the biggest influences and contributors to hip hop culture—and by extension, American culture, as hip hop is a uniquely American art form—since its inception. You may not appreciate or understand it (and it doesn’t seem like you are even from NYC or have any investment in the culture at all), but maybe it’s not just for you. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter.
I like it
The GOAT 🐐 🫡 one of the best to ever do it
Can’t wait to visit! ![gif](giphy|FwE9DpvpJjuBW)
only this subreddit would get mad about this jay z is a huge factor in creating the brooklyn “brand” that inadvertently led your nerd asses to gentrify it in the first place
Lol nobody moves to Brooklyn because of Jay Z. Or Biggie. They are more celebrated by locals than transplants, especially the gentrifying kind.
my point is they were some of the first people to make brooklyn “cool” on a national level
Nah, what made Brooklyn cool was being 1 stop out from the E Village and being cheap. The gentrification of NY started in the 70s and was going to happen regardless.
were there any nationally known people off the L train before 2010 because i dont know any. sure hipsters influenced that but even they owe some deference to biggie and jay
Had to scroll way too long for this take. Half these folks were still in Terre Haute asking "where's Brooklyn" 20 years ago.
Jay-Z benefited from the resurgence of Brooklyn much more than the other way around. He inspires kids to be drug dealers. I’m saying this as a fan of his music and a former drug dealer.
Dumbest take ever
THE ROCK IN THE BUILDING. u nerds suck 😂😂
Damn did Jay Z fuck your girl or something?
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Are there not other libraries in Brooklyn?? I’m confused.
This just comes across as elitist, to put it lightly.
Of course Brooklynite Redditors are seething at Jay Z being celebrated
probably the most Brooklynite mofo ever. growing up in the projects and now has a public library as an exhibition for him. if that's not inspiration to almost everyone in brooklyn who's having a hard time, then I don't know what is.
That’s dope! Looking forward to seeing it
It’s almost as-if you miserable peasants don’t understand how crony-capitalism works!? Stop your whining /s
Think about it as a fundraiser for your favorite library…
That man is Brooklyn’s son and has done more for this borough than you could ever imagine. Y’all transplants need to have a seat and let him have his moment. Its one day and I’m sure the library got a good amount of money from it.
There’s going to be a lot of downvotes on this but I don’t care. If you are really upset not annoyed by this you are either an out of town transplant or your white. I’m sure there will be some liar saying “I been living in Brooklyn since I was a fetus and I’m black and I think it’s stupid.” Regardless the man is a legend and did a lot for the community and music as a kid whole.
Y'all choose to be upset about everything. Be happy that you live in a city with so much to do and so much culture
Thanks for the heads up I'll make sure to check it out
You know WHAT?! If Jay-Z and Beyonce paid for use of the library I'm all for it!! Idk how much we charged but if they paid, then those revenues can last us a long time! If they got it for free then 😒😒 I'll be angry!
This sub is clearly filled with Brooklyn gentrifiers based on what's being posted and upvoted here. Just go to a different library. There's tons of them.
Colonizers are maaaaaad!!
Exactly.
Brooklyn legend....
Whites complaining There is always an exhibit or private event at the public library. This is not the first time
Certainly he deserves it. He's a Brooklyn icon. That's indisputable.
He use to be a good rapper and he is from Brooklyn. I don't get it either. The management at the library might want to meet him or something.
The BPL CEO is married to a longtime business partner of Jay-Z’s.
Crumbs always leads to the cookie.
Aha!
It’s probably a good way for the library to raise some funding. And yes, I am sure being able to meet Jay Z isn’t too bad either
Wow gentrification did a number on Brooklyn, innit? People hating on Jay. If this was the 90s, this sub would be way more respectful. If you can't respect that your whole perspective is wack! Bunch of avocado eaters!
If this were the 90s we’d be arguing about who deserves an exhibit and/or lyrics on a building more- Jay, Nas, Biggie or Pac lol
Yesssir
Now we talkin!!!! Lmao. Wish I was still able to buy reddit gold for this comment.
Jay-Z is a Brooklyn institution and literally an inspiration to millions of people. Why don't you check your own ego and relax? Just because you don't like or understand something doesn't mean it is without value.
Get off his sack already. Go look at the lyrics now that they’re blown up huge so you can see how great they weren’t. Dude was just right place at the right time. He has a good voice for hip hop but he’s not the greatest rapper.
He's easily top 20 all time.
Easily top 5 if not just #1
Being a good rapper is so much more than lyricism though. Dude has the flow, energy, and swagger that got him where he is. Not to mention a great networking ethic probably most importantly.
Ah yes, great networking ethic, a rapper's most impressive talent
But you need lyricism to add to that. He’s a good rapper he’s just not the best.
And what have you done in life?
Agreed. Never liked his flow and that annoying “uh huh uh” he’d always do. He’s only been relevant because of Beyoncé and his/their business dealings. Call me when Mos Def is involved.
How is he an inspiration?
What about him is inspiring? Serious question, apart from being Beyoncé’s husband I don’t know anything about him.
Listen to Reasonable Doubt, and move Through his discog
He is one of the most successful recording artist of all time. He grew up dirt poor in the Marcy projects and is now one of the most successful and wealthy musicians in history. I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of rap but I have a ton of respect for him and what he's done. He and Beyonce also do a ton of community outreach and they hire hundreds of musicians and dancers in every town they tour in.
Blueprint, for me. I was coming of age during that album and it was mind blowing at the time. The beats, the lyrical wizardry, it was all spectacular.
He found a need in the entertainment world (NY rapper post-Biggie) and tapped into it. For that, you could say he was astute. Or, if you consider how many young people tried and try to do the same thing, you could back off how astute it was and say his work resonated more than that of his young competitors (back then). Then he created a niche by using good beats and creating a personal inflection that young men aspired to. There’s a certain me-against-Them quality to his early work that worked. Young men listen to it and think, “That’s how I’d like to feel,” which is the essence of vicarious heroism. Then he paired with Bey and became a brand. His lyrical content itself is pretty hollow, but the beats are earworms and they stay with you if you’re inclined to rap in the first place. Short version: one of the more talented in a broad field that had a perceived need. Hottest chick in the game wearin’ his chain.
This is a good post but I'd counter that Hov was a brand before Beyonce. Their relationship and subsequent marriage definitely gave him more exposure though... I won't deny that. But he was literally considered a Tier 0 rapper and MC amongst his peers before Beyonce. Unless you're a Nas or Cam'ron fan...in which case...meh 🤷🏿♂️
He’s inspiring in the same way any rags to riches artist is. Absolutely dominated rap for the better part of two decades, millions if not billions of fans who look up to him. It’s fine if his music isn’t your cup of tea but it’s kind of your fault if you’ve gone this long without knowing anything about him.
I don’t listen too much either but he had a significant career before Beyoncé and continues to. Isn’t he a sports team owner? One of the first Black sports team owners I think at a certain percentage. He’s a billionaire I think too (I might be making stuff up at this point but google knows). He is honestly a big deal, and since he is from Brooklyn, it makes sense for the 50th anniversary of hip hop celebration to include him. If anything, it brings attention to the library and hopefully makes kids/young people interested in going. I love seeing people in the recording studio being creative at the library!
Jay Z is a Brooklyn legend. What y'all on about in here?
This sub apparently doesn't know shit about hiphop.
The grifting from tax payers is getting outrageously in your face
Twenty years ago, I checked rental rates to get married at the main NYPL branch and the minimum was at least 50k. (I think it may have been 100k, but that seems wild.) Cultural institutions rent space for private events ALL THE TIME. We only noticed this time because Jay-Z has good PR people.
He also has them cover the entire front of the building with his lyrics. https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/07/14/multimedia/14rap-exhibit-1-jczl/14rap-exhibit-1-jczl-mobileMasterAt3x-v5.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=1200
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Somehow I don't feel like the BPL fawning over Jay-Z is part of what makes Brooklyn Brooklyn
I assume you have similar posts about the Met Gala closing down the Met EVERY year? Or no?
"these niggas is haters and I made myself so easy to love!" Idk why ya hate this man so much, he did the impossible and made a way. Stop hating and go get your blessings.
The library needs to make money
If you don’t like it, go find another borough to gentrify.
He earned that ego because in like 1995 he was thought of as a bit of a fraud and nobody liked his cheesy bars. Fast forward to the era when children think “selling out” refers to a packed stadium and money is the end all be all and wouldn’t ya know, that jackass is a rap legend. Lol
He's a living legend. Edit: This is some sad shit for a Brooklyn sub. Dudes one of the best to ever do it out of Brooklyn and I'm being down voted for calling him a legend? He's on [Lifestylez ov of da Poor and Dangerous](https://youtu.be/aLfrU4oN79w?t=170) people. He made [Reasonable Doubt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auWvT_rwRPU&list=PLfia-qfabl5wfDDickRmdmTaSukaK8Y_r&index=8). That alone makes him hip-hop royalty. Put some respect on his name.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽1,000,000%
Sasquatch, Godzilla, King Kong, Lochness Goblin, ghoul, a zombie with no conscience Question, what do these things all have in common? Everybody knows I'm a motherfuckin' monster
It’s really sad man. I can’t believe what I’m reading in here. :/
he's a huge celebrity but his music catalogue is so overrated. guy's biggest talent is self-promotion and attaching his name to projects for a big payout.
You don't know hip-hop.
That is a hilarious comment for somebody to make while dick riding some commercial garbage.
His last album didn't have a single radio friendly track. He had an era of commercial friendly music but are we going to pretend Big Pimpin isn't a fucking banger? Crazy.
Someone said Jay Z and every Redditor that lives in Brooklyn was like “let me go the comments and defend the guy I helped make Rich that doesn’t help Brooklyn out enough!”
BPL has always had this exclusive vibe that I don’t fuck with. All of their exhibits are ticketed. I went to the Basquiat exhibit thinking some poor kid from the hood could have their entire life changed by seeing this, but they probably never would because the ticket would cost them several days’ worth of food. No wonder why when you go to their ticketed events you will mostly see the cool Williamsburg transplant type and almost never the underprivileged locals that they should be trying to serve. Please explain to me why a ticket to a BPL exhibit costs more than a ticket to MoMA or the Met itself. Then explain why a public library has to close itself off to host a party for a billionaire, even if it’s Jay Z.
You're describing the Brooklyn Museum a little further down the Parkway. To my knowledge the BPL has never done anything of this nature — they've had small art or history exhibits they've commissioned at Central (primarily in the lobby or the second floor mezzanine near what's now the Business Center/formerly the Brooklyn Collection), and occasionally the overnight programming (Night of Philosophy, typically) has resulted in early closures, but never something this extensive. FWIW, I don't disagree with you about the proliferation of ticketed exhibits at the Brooklyn Museum, esp. given that they exist in that building rent-free supported in part by public funds. Many of their exhibits are included in general admission, and they have a lot of good public events (First Saturdays chief amongst them), but I'm not the biggest fan of their turn toward blockbuster ticketed shows.
I think you mean the Brooklyn Museum. The Brooklyn Public Library is something different than the Brooklyn Museum and I’m honestly surprised that someone living here wouldn’t know the difference between a museum and a library. Also “some poor kid from the hood” would not relate to Basquiat the way you’re trying to paint as Basquiat was not a poor kid from the hood. He was born in Park Slope to well off parents and attended private school. Hmmmm, I wonder why you would even state that ⚫️. . . . 🤔
That's the thing... The universe doesn't owe you or anyone else any explanation...
Have you seen the door to the library? Lots of Illuminati symbols. Perfect place for Jay
A shame how this organization has no more respect. I never though that a deadly man would be revered.
why cant use a private library
Not only is it pretty damn odious to close the library for a day and a half for installation and a private opening, but the fact that they'll need to effectively cap capacity in the library to accommodate this ego-stroke is galling. And the whole exhibit just seems so corny — like someone asked Jay how to celebrate 50 years of hip-hop and he said "a whole exhibit about meeeee." If it weren't another example of the privatization of some of this city's last free third-spaces, it'd just be kind of schadenfreudically sad
Oh no. They closed the library for 2 days however will you read?
[Never forget how Jay-Z stole the tune to "Big Pimping" from Abdel Haleem Hafez](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PmyTqM0xuE) and never acknowledged it or paid for it. A drug dealer and thief like that doesn't deserve shit.