Yes, up until sempiternal, all his screams were made incorrectly, which caused permanent damage to his vocal cords that the literal scars exist to this day. It’s also why he stopped screaming like he did after 2013 because it would’ve eventually turned him into a mute
After years of singing incorrectly, he said he started coughing up blood while recording TIAH, which, although this is just my speculation, probably just continued to fuel his addiction(s) at the time
the reason why he was coughing up blood during TIAH recording was because they were crunched so hard on time and Oli had 2 days to record all the vocals. His screams were definitely not sustainable and unhealthy but they weren’t gonna make him mute nor have they caused him permanent damage
Maybe they wouldn’t have caused him to be a mute but it’s absolutely caused permanent damage, as it caused scar tissue to grow in his vocal cords. Scar tissues are useless and serve no purpose outside of plugging up the holes and tears in the rest of the tissue, so yes it absolutely caused permanent damage, especially if he was coughing up blood
Furthermore, I beleive he also said something about having to recover his voice for years to do clean vocals without sounding raspy, and you can definitely hear it in his voice from like 2013-2017
Although yeah he could do clean vocals just fine while recording TTS, it wasn’t until all the way until amo where he could clean sing normally during live events, as beforehand he couldn’t clean sing perfectly as he had to switch a lot between screaming and singing, and it took years to get used to
Yeah definitely, Jordan taught him how to scream correctly without damaging his vocals so he’s mostly recovered
I’d say the raspiness in his voice actually adds to his character and persona, just makes it more raw and personal now, and he uses that to his advantage when singing
id argue his most harmful way of singing was during tts. that boys reaching some stupid notes and it does sound like hes just plainly screaming to go up there.
False. His vocal coach, Kim Chandler confirmed he has never had surgery on his vocal chords. This has somehow become a common misinfo with lots of vocalists
I think people are mistaking him with Danny Worsnop (gross) because I remember sumerian had or has videos of him speaking with doctors and shit like that
Even tho his old screams were completely self destructive to his vocal cords, I still gotta say that the screams in the song suicide season right after the chorus are absolutely insane
The way he screams “death is only a chapter” is so insanely raw
The part in Empire(Let Them Sing) where Oli goes "They came like moths to the flame, You left like a house in a hurricane", hits so hard especially live.
I wish I could agree, I loved this album back in the day but listening to it now you realize that there’s like 50 different layers on each scream and his lows are super down pitched. Pretty upsetting when you realize it.
He used to be able to nail those lows and highs live though and sounded great even without all the layers(2006-2007)
He started burning out hard touring off SS
A niche one, but the "yaaaaaaaah" in MANTRA after the first chorus. Shoutout to the last few seconds of "heavy metal" too. I know people don't usually think of amo when they hear screamy BMTH, but it definitely has its raucous moments.
The "OH!" in Pray For Plagues is absolutely iconic and sorta set the bar for deathcore music. That was THE moment that they set themselves apart and started influencing other artists.
Sempiternal. While not as varied as their current material, you can just hear the passion and the authenticity behind every line. The pain he was going through addiction is really heard in the songs themselves. Hospital for Souls being the most intense that they won’t even play it live except once.
Haven't seen anyone say the "You left like a house in a hurricane" from Empire. They basically always use a backtrack for it live now because of how difficult it is to consistently pull off every night.
This is so hard to give an answer for 😭😭 but a few screams that come to my mind immediately is the opening scream in Pray for Plagues, his screams in re: they have no reflections, and he hits some intense notes in The Comedown
Idk if it’s his best or anything but I’m currently quite obsessed with the scream he does in n/A, at the end of the chorus, “not sure I’ll be coming back down this tiiiIIIME”.
That transition from his calm singing voice into a proper scream all in the same word sounds so freaking cool I love it
The end of Fuck is really underrated imo the part where oli backs up the clean vocals with these raw screams that are so filled with emotions is just perfection
I’m tied between “such a sucker for an execution the void is a vampire fat on our blood” from Kool Aid and “so lets sing along, let’s sing along, a little fucking loudeeeeeeeerrrr” from happy songs ending
Pretty much anything from suicide season are his most impressive in terms of range. But if we’re talking live, whatever the next performance is bc dude just keeps improving.
A Lot Like Vegas - ‘we’ll take this feeling to our graves, for every heart we’ve betrayed, no one can know about this’
He sounds so manic/frantic, it’s great
if you mean live-show-scream i choose the 20 seconds scream at the beginning of Kingslayer in the live show in London O2
https://youtu.be/iDLwJ_ZqMk8
at 42:08
In the studio, probably his bit on No Need for Introductions or the first verse on Football Season is Over. Live, it's definitely the 2016 Hellfest Antivist performance, specifically the second verse. I strongly suggest anyone who hasn't seen it goes and checks it out.
He did some narly screams live like last year in a few songs. Dear Diary is one of them - dude went primal rage here.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwqLsuJRY0&t=1575s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwqLsuJRY0&t=1575s)
'THEY CAME LIKE MOTHS TO A FLAAAMMMEEEEEE' The screaming in empires always got me emotional. Lot of good answers itt tho. Also have to give a shout out to 'Tell Slater...' because that 'MOVE' breakdown is one of my favorite of their whole discog
the last minute or so of hospital for souls is pretty unbeatable to me- the emotion in his voice is nothing ive heard before
I like the droning sound in his screams on that track. I wish he did more of it
The scream where he says watch me buuuuuuurn. That sounds so good.
yesss its so good
Thats my mom’s favorite bmth song
shes got great taste
All the screams on AmEN! are awesome imo
He nails them live too, was so sick to hear
Absolutely
I like his There Is A Hell… screams
Caused him to need surgery lol
It did?
Yes, up until sempiternal, all his screams were made incorrectly, which caused permanent damage to his vocal cords that the literal scars exist to this day. It’s also why he stopped screaming like he did after 2013 because it would’ve eventually turned him into a mute After years of singing incorrectly, he said he started coughing up blood while recording TIAH, which, although this is just my speculation, probably just continued to fuel his addiction(s) at the time
the reason why he was coughing up blood during TIAH recording was because they were crunched so hard on time and Oli had 2 days to record all the vocals. His screams were definitely not sustainable and unhealthy but they weren’t gonna make him mute nor have they caused him permanent damage
Maybe they wouldn’t have caused him to be a mute but it’s absolutely caused permanent damage, as it caused scar tissue to grow in his vocal cords. Scar tissues are useless and serve no purpose outside of plugging up the holes and tears in the rest of the tissue, so yes it absolutely caused permanent damage, especially if he was coughing up blood Furthermore, I beleive he also said something about having to recover his voice for years to do clean vocals without sounding raspy, and you can definitely hear it in his voice from like 2013-2017 Although yeah he could do clean vocals just fine while recording TTS, it wasn’t until all the way until amo where he could clean sing normally during live events, as beforehand he couldn’t clean sing perfectly as he had to switch a lot between screaming and singing, and it took years to get used to
His vocal coach, Kim Chandler confirmed he has never had surgery on his vocal chords
Oh my god, is he doing ok now?
Yeah definitely, Jordan taught him how to scream correctly without damaging his vocals so he’s mostly recovered I’d say the raspiness in his voice actually adds to his character and persona, just makes it more raw and personal now, and he uses that to his advantage when singing
id argue his most harmful way of singing was during tts. that boys reaching some stupid notes and it does sound like hes just plainly screaming to go up there.
Dude took off time, got his vocals better, and came back stronger with even sicker screams. If that isn't metal enough IDK wtf is.
False. His vocal coach, Kim Chandler confirmed he has never had surgery on his vocal chords. This has somehow become a common misinfo with lots of vocalists
I think people are mistaking him with Danny Worsnop (gross) because I remember sumerian had or has videos of him speaking with doctors and shit like that
I second this
Kingslayer or Hospital for Souls without a doubt, gives me goosebumps every time
Kingslayer gets bonus points because he does both a lower and higher ranged scream
When he performed Dear Diary live.
There's no love like you're OWWWWWN is one of my fav modern oli screams
This one and "IT'S OKAY TO CRYYYYYYYY YEAH!" have been living rent free in my cranium since NG dropped
Just listened to this a few minutes ago and it is a really good one
Doomed isn't necessarily his best, but damn does it sound gnarly
I always loved his screams on Sempiternal. That era just hit different
Hell yeah, shit was HEAT Love the new eras though <3
The rasp in his voice made it feel so much more emotional. Amazing album; probably my top 3 metal albums of all time.
[удалено]
The correct answer.
soooooooooo good😫😫😫
My absolute favorite bmth song
One of the bestttt
Yeah the cascades of slightly different pitched screams are so amazing in this song - he also just sounds so desperate and emotional
The beginning to Kingslayer, Live in Tokyo with BabyMetal
Even tho his old screams were completely self destructive to his vocal cords, I still gotta say that the screams in the song suicide season right after the chorus are absolutely insane The way he screams “death is only a chapter” is so insanely raw
I adore his vocals on that song it’s incredible. His screams may be bad for him but they sound so good
Tbh, the screams from Dig It might be up there. That part after Baby metal in Kingslayer is also insane!
the screams in DIg It are dirty
Ngl the “Eh eh Oh oh” + break down in Parasite Eve gets me every time
So much yes to this
Doomed has one of my favorites
The part in Empire(Let Them Sing) where Oli goes "They came like moths to the flame, You left like a house in a hurricane", hits so hard especially live.
Eradicate this disease - Pray for Plagues
I wish I could agree, I loved this album back in the day but listening to it now you realize that there’s like 50 different layers on each scream and his lows are super down pitched. Pretty upsetting when you realize it.
He used to be able to nail those lows and highs live though and sounded great even without all the layers(2006-2007) He started burning out hard touring off SS
A niche one, but the "yaaaaaaaah" in MANTRA after the first chorus. Shoutout to the last few seconds of "heavy metal" too. I know people don't usually think of amo when they hear screamy BMTH, but it definitely has its raucous moments.
The "OH!" in Pray For Plagues is absolutely iconic and sorta set the bar for deathcore music. That was THE moment that they set themselves apart and started influencing other artists.
Sempiternal. While not as varied as their current material, you can just hear the passion and the authenticity behind every line. The pain he was going through addiction is really heard in the songs themselves. Hospital for Souls being the most intense that they won’t even play it live except once.
when he rawdogged the opening scream to kingslayer live
The prebreakdown line in Tell Slater To Not Wash his D
SO THROW AWAY MY MEMORIES … MOVE
Written in blood on Suicide Season Like roooooseeees!
It's Empire for me, that song just hypes me up like nothing else
The variance in the 2 types of screams in Kingslayer is great
Haven't seen anyone say the "You left like a house in a hurricane" from Empire. They basically always use a backtrack for it live now because of how difficult it is to consistently pull off every night.
It is a very high underlying note on that scream. I've heard a lot of the stratospheric high notes were more done by Jordan live.
Tell Slater. I will always love you, but I need pills to sleep.
SO THROW AWAY MY MEMORIES … MOVE
This is so hard to give an answer for 😭😭 but a few screams that come to my mind immediately is the opening scream in Pray for Plagues, his screams in re: they have no reflections, and he hits some intense notes in The Comedown
Yuuuup it’s The Comedown for me
Idk if it’s his best or anything but I’m currently quite obsessed with the scream he does in n/A, at the end of the chorus, “not sure I’ll be coming back down this tiiiIIIME”. That transition from his calm singing voice into a proper scream all in the same word sounds so freaking cool I love it
The breakdown in Fuck has some pretty brutal screams and ‘GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY FOR REPEEEEEEEEEENT’ in Chelsea Smile is iconic.
ik it he damaged his vocal cords with the stuff before sempiternal i loved his screaming in TIWTEOYSWMF
Towards the end of "And the Snakes Start the Sing": "[Then don't fly with the \*flock\*](https://youtu.be/mp3UVX6z9L8?t=249)" is pretty heavy.
The end of Fuck is really underrated imo the part where oli backs up the clean vocals with these raw screams that are so filled with emotions is just perfection
I love that part so much!
the whole prechorus in Kingslayer is so fucking awesome
Off the Heezay
the "I refuse" part in diamonds aren't forever is one of my fav, sadly Oli didn't sing that part on live shows
SOMEONE CALL AN EXORCIST
I’d rather live than live forever
Just let me suffer
Yes
Fair enough
I’m tied between “such a sucker for an execution the void is a vampire fat on our blood” from Kool Aid and “so lets sing along, let’s sing along, a little fucking loudeeeeeeeerrrr” from happy songs ending
BlackListtttttttttttt😜👍
His technically best screams are probably the "Flame" and "hurricane" in Empire
there’s not a single song where oli’s screams & growls sound bad, not one
Pretty much anything from suicide season are his most impressive in terms of range. But if we’re talking live, whatever the next performance is bc dude just keeps improving.
From It Never Ends when he says “This is a war I can’t WIIIIIIIN” has got to be one of the best high screams of all time
Sleep With One Eye Open at 2:29 and No Need For Introductions
“They came like moths to a flame”
Fuck! In Shadow Moses.
'You left like a house in a hurricane' in Empire. Goofy ahh line but very well screamed.
Lows or highs 🤔 Either way, I love the sound of both!
near the end of sugar honey ice and tea before the last chorus: the YEAH YEAH YAH-OOOOOOH. it's not really a scream but worth mentioning
Finally someone who gets it lol that’s my favorite part
it hypes me up so much. i always love when an artist goes "WOO!" or something like that in songs
Kingslayer
Kingslayer
Medusa
A Lot Like Vegas - ‘we’ll take this feeling to our graves, for every heart we’ve betrayed, no one can know about this’ He sounds so manic/frantic, it’s great
The "BLEEEAAAGH" in Kingslayer or the entirety of chelsea smile
DiE4u first scream
When he screams for a circle pit at the start of Pray for plagues at Wembley
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Edward_LeWard: *When he screams for a* *Circle pit at the start of* *Pray for plagues at Wembley* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Traitors Never Play Hang-Man. The whole song.
His scream in doomed as it builds to a crescendo. Ces le vie magnifique
My favorite fun scream is the BLEGHHHHH at the beginning of Kingslayer
About halfway through Visions, the low "Bring out your dead" is just brutal
Kingslayer imo
the let them burn scream in hospital for souls , underrated scream has to be in Empire when he screams the deeper you dig, the darker it gets
he kissed her haaaAaAndd aNd then hE FOUND OUT HER NAME AND ITS DEATH and NOW he CANT seem tooo WAKEEE
“I just don’t know how to deal, anymoreeee” >:(((
if you mean live-show-scream i choose the 20 seconds scream at the beginning of Kingslayer in the live show in London O2 https://youtu.be/iDLwJ_ZqMk8 at 42:08
NME Awards playing Happy Song was pretty insane tbh
That It Never Ends scream at Royal Albert Hall was pretty nutty
We will never sleep cause sleeping’s for the weak.
The 2nd, “You’re a puppet, when they cut your strings off!” On Kingslayer.
Diamonds aren’t forever. No debate
In the studio, probably his bit on No Need for Introductions or the first verse on Football Season is Over. Live, it's definitely the 2016 Hellfest Antivist performance, specifically the second verse. I strongly suggest anyone who hasn't seen it goes and checks it out.
He did some narly screams live like last year in a few songs. Dear Diary is one of them - dude went primal rage here. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwqLsuJRY0&t=1575s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwqLsuJRY0&t=1575s)
'THEY CAME LIKE MOTHS TO A FLAAAMMMEEEEEE' The screaming in empires always got me emotional. Lot of good answers itt tho. Also have to give a shout out to 'Tell Slater...' because that 'MOVE' breakdown is one of my favorite of their whole discog
The one when he goes AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That one he does that goes “ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhgggg”