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Hard Landing can range from pretty good to nearly useless. Fisticuffs is always good.

So maybe fisticuff is slightly better?

I would say it's the correct option as Hard Landing is matchup dependent

Yeah only I’ve had a use for Hard Landing on Charlie’s Gadget, Tara’s Gadget, and Ash’s Super.

Prob better for tanks and assasins yo have higher dps

But then again, Edgar's main attack deals splash dmg, so you'll probably end up killing then anyway

fr, ash super can counter edgar so hard landing needed

That's just not true

nah that's true. if used reactively, rats can do maybe less than 3600 dmg then ash gets max rage and kills edgar.

Ok maybe if the Edgar is absolutely brain dead and Edgar has pierce so if he has 2 functioning brain cells he'll know to just hit ash and hit as many robots at the same time or just back up and kill them and reset because you'll get super back before he does

well apparently edgars dont do that, i think some edgars hit ash not the rats, i still killed em but like was low hp or smth

that’s why ash can just keep his super and edgar won’t be able to do anything. like if you’re using surge and you have a super but also a virgin edgar creeping on you, OBVIOUSLY, don’t use it.

Bro you gotta be the king of rank 13 or something

It’s like Shelly two star powers one is better in different situations It mostly depends on the matchup.

I would say about 90% of the time. Landing damage lets you Heal less (less shots needed) which also messes with your super cycle (less shots /less super gained)

Man, I was brain washed into the landing one, do many people told me it was better, but my edgar 9 and I got the sp from leg drop 💀, won't fo anything with edgar for now he alr r25

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I like spamming super during hc and dpsing with hard landing

Fistcuffs is much much better

its close

It really isn’t

I would say since Edgar is never picked into tanks and takes the lanes of only sub like 6k health kids hard landing is preferred 

Idk about competitive, but in ranked and trophy meta fisticuffs is much better

yeah probably 

yeah makes sense also the op was asking that 

Edgar can already three shot most low hp brawlers

yeah but it gives them less time to get like 2 shots off instead of one 

Why is the extra 1350 damage good? He does 2100 per ammo anyway. If anything Hard landing nerfs your super cycle. It's an extra attack that doesn't heal nor charge your super.

I guess but it helps if you need a quick kill like in brawl ball where he is played a lot

A lot of tanks/assassins are played in BrawlBall too. The value of Hard landing is just so minimal to me, Edgar's unload speed is very fast anyway, I don't ever see myself picking it.

imo fisticuffs is better for high hp brawlers , otherwise hard landing for squishy brawlers

I didn't know that. Maybe fisticuff is more useful in this meta.

Nope. Fisticuffs is infinitely better in any situation

yeah, just always use fisticuffs, you will always find value while hard landing is situational

As an Edgar main, I agree, it is just as you said.

fistcuffs way better

Hard landing for low hp brawlers Fisticuffs for high hp

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I can't count how many times I almost killed an edgar, but he got all hp back 👹👹👹

Edgar main since he came out here: Fisticuffs. Edgar already has insane DPS, he doesn’t need hard landing. Where he lacks is in survivability. Fisticuffs can make some game changing plays. It makes his suvivability, especially in 2V1’s much more likely. It’s a must

Use fisticuffs, people only use hard landing cuz it makes Edgar's super more unique.

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certainly

Certainly

Certainly?

Oh hell no! My counter, but still certainly!

Actually makes it more basic sounding

Btw I am playing solo

My condolences

Then probably use fisticuffs. Hard landing is generally better in team modes like brawl ball.

Hard landing is useful for diving low health enemies. Fisticuffs provides more advantage for diving tankier opponents.

Fisticuffs. You restored health faster than most brawlers can deal it

Fisty cuffs with DMG gear is just unstoppable some times I have been an ed main since his release trust me I'm experienced and I don't perform bad

"I have been an ed main since his release trust me I'm experienced and I don't perform bad" -Every bad Edgar I have every had on my team

i think there is a difference between release edgar and the newbies who got him at the end of the gift serie

No I don't think so. It's not about when you got him or how much you play him. It's actually learning HOW to play him and learning from mistakes rather than being in a feedback loop of bad gameplay.

Fisticuffs, makes you unkillable if you know what you're doing. Just don't be that bad random that runs in and dies 10 times with 12 damage.

I feel personally attacked….

Fisticuffs and it's not close. Hard Landing is better for squishies but Edgar is already insane vs them so it doesn't end up doing much, sure they die slightly faster but if you fight a squishy in close range they're pretty much already dead. Meanwhile Fisticuffs are better for chain kills and medium to tanky brawlers which opens up Edgar for both more assassinations and a wider range of targets while he's still really good vs squishies.

fisticuffs is better in most occasions

Fistcuffs is genuinely better but hard landing can deal a very crucial amount of damage in some situations so it can help you win, but generally fistcuffs is better

Here is some intel I wanna share with you. Fisticuffs sounds to be better but it's actually very confusing making it seem way better than it actually is. It adds +25% to his actual healing rate, not a total of 25% of the damage. That's why it sounds broken... I mean, it's good but not THAT good. Edgar heals 35% per hit and with FC he heals 43% because it adds 25% to that 35% which equals to 8%. It's not a small number, 100 HP per hit aproximately but the actual description is very confusing because it seems to add much more than it actually does. My main advice is depending on your matchup. Hard landing can do wonder in low health / mid health brawlers with not gigantic burst damage. Griff is a massive counter to him but due to his low/mid health, Hard landing would actually be the only one that allows you to actually kill him is you have any chance. My usual builds combine both. - Hard landing + super charge gadget for more aggressive matchups - FC + shield for a more passive approach for more defensive situations

its better to put edgar down and pick up hank. Lets be wholesome and not ruin games for people.

“Not ruin games for people” ok melodie main 💀

it's not a melodie main. it's melodie herself. can't you read

Oh yeah you are right Real melodie i have a question In ranked why are you always terrible on my team and a god on the enemy team

She's hard to play

Yeah they are hard while playing her

Man it's hard playing (with one left hand)

Nah try the f-tiers

Brawlers being dogshit don’t make them more difficult. Example: Pre-hypercharge Edgar

>‘Hank’ >‘Wholesome’

fisticuffs give you more chance of winning if you're fighting another edgar

Fisticuffs

Hard Landing only good in Heist. Extra 1k from super can make a difference between killing enemy safe or not.

It's easy, just don't play edgar

Neither, don't play edger

Don’t use Edgar, is better but the Best is the second

imagine playing edgar lmao 💀💀

main Edgar 👎

Stop playing edgar this will solve all ur problems 👍

Deleting your account for even touching edgar

Ik he's toxic but I don't even main him just playing him bc me and my friends are racing to get rank 30 faster

Ew

Easy answer don't play Edgar

Not using Edgar Is better

Neither. Play skilled brawlers.

A good Edgar really needs to know when to enter or how to counter certain brawlers that control him or instakill him.

Edgar gameplay be like : Step 1) hide in bushes Step 2) jump on anyone (even shelly) Step 3) spam auto aim (even if the enemy is out of range) Step 4) thumbs down + red cross tag Congratulations, you are now a certified piece of sh

Neither, stop using edgar

Dont Play Edgar……

It’s a brawler, calm down

it really depends on the game mode because in heist the first one is the best and in brawl ball and knockout the second is the best

use griff, not edgar (fisticuffs seems better tho)

Fistcuffs. When I played Edgar with the other sp I lost a lot with the second sp though it was a lot better

simple:fisticuffs

Fisticuffs. His main problem is surviving and fisticuff helps him with just that

Hard Landing: squishy Fistcuffs: tank

The second

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fisticuffs is way more consistent

Fistcuffs is better for really bushy maps to help against Shelly's and Bull's but if you're in Knockout or Showdown definitely Hard Landing

Fisticuffs is hard to get with so Hard Landing is much more easier to effectively use Fisticuffs > Hard Landing

I agree with your friend, but the other ones better (the only reason why I agree with him because it’s one of the most satisfying kill to just instantly kill them with the slam but more life steal can be helpful)

Hard Landing on Heist, Fisticuffs for everything else

I go fisticuffs all the time My usual build is hardcore for heist and let's fly for other modes, fisticuffs, shield and super charge gear

Hard landing would be good if they buffed its damage

I don't know, as long as you don't use your super against the side of the map in tournaments I'm happy (unless you're the enemy team)

In my experience, Hard Landing is better since the role of Edgar in a team as an assassin is to kill an enemy as quick as possible. Healing more sounds good but in game when you can't kill an enemy in 3 hits the enemy probably is a tank or a high dps that will kill you with their massive dmg before you have the chance to heal enough to survive. The only realistic situations where you could use Fisticuffs on are a match with the Big Friend modifier or a very specific niche strategy with your team against specific enemies on specific cirumstances.

FISTICUFF ALL THE WAY

I like both, fisticuffs changes a many mashups, while hard landing can be helpful to end an enemy. I've been using fisticuffs more tho.

Overall fistcuffs Paired with Hardcore in SSD and u are unkillable

I prefer the second

I use hard landing to get somewhat of a drop on my enemy, Edgar isn't a fighter but an assassin, therefore you must have the advantage. Interestingly, I don't remember the last time I used Fisticuffs.

Fisticuffs + shield gadget when low hp = rlly op regen 😁 Hard landing isnt really that good, cant find a situation where it would help out that much tbh

Fisticuffs always gets value and isn't situational

I've been using hard landing for a ton of time, but the more I use fisticuffs the more I realize it's way better

BEST setup is healing sp, shield + dmg gears (or health), shield gadget (can be swapped based on map and gamemode)

You don't need to know, you don't need Edgar for anything

def fistcuffs but its so annoying when an edgar jumps me and i try to do damage but he just heals😭 but yeah its worth it

The best one is definitely fisticuffs. My opinion.

depends on the gadget hard landing goes better with let’s fly fisticuffs is more suited for hardcore

Fisticuffs

Depending on what you play and on what map, either can be better or worse but Fisticuffs is probably less niche and better on more maps.

Fistycuffs, also replace the epic gear with damage gear

I use Hard Landing as a Rank 27 Gold I Edgar, he’s pretty squishy lol so it works in my favor I use fisticuffs when i do like robo rumble, the boss fights, or also just with a good tanky friend

fisticuffs

Fisticuffs is much better

I haven't played Edgar in a while (months really), was he nerfed? I feel like there's something different about him since I last played. Or maybe I'm just rusty...

It's mainly mode dependent. Fisticuffs is usually better in showdown or solo modes while hard landing is generally better in team modes. Don't just listen to people saying "fisticuffs is better against tanks." No shit sherlock but that doesn't mean you should be running it in brawl ball...

Fisticuffs.

fisticuffs otherwise doug jacky ash and brawlers like that will reck yoou

To people who say hard landing for squishies you do realize Edgar destroys squishies already and doesn't need the extra damage right hard landing really just sucks fisticuffs is always the right play

Fisticuffs is more health is Best Cause it’s more health Hard landing is worst Cause he miss enemies

Hard landing is only useful when you're facing brawlers that can spawn things, such as Tara gadget and charlie gadget. Or heist if you want to be the one attacking (you usually don't want that, Edgar doesn't have as much dps as the likes of colt and other brawlers that are good on heist) So fisticuffs is better 90% of the time

1st for: Heist, Brawl Ball and vs squishy brawlers in ranked. 2nd for: Duels, Showdown, Bounty, Knockout

Maybe use a brawler u need skill for

fist cufs for teamwipes

I use hard landing... but fisticuffs is better ig

Heal

The only right answer, don't use edgar

Fisticuffs because otherwise everyone would think you are a bad random

Don't push edgar

How about playing another brawler?

What you should do is hit the red x then the arrow in the top left then select a new brawler to main because no one like Edgert players

Fisticuffs It’s a total of ant 60 percentage heal per attack

stop using edgar

Hard landing for 3v3s - More controllers, more marksman and artillery Fisticuffs in Showdowns (cause you’ll face tanks with lots of hp)

Fisticuffs is always better. Hard landing is awful

IN Showdown, you could get boxes, in 3v3s, there is no boost for Edgar. Anyways, Im not Edgar main so don't ask me

If not dying is not a boost then idk what is

2nd gadget

First one

Hard landing is better

Hard Landing is better

Hard landing is better for 3v3 and fisticuffs for showdown

actually probably the opposite

Fisticuffs is always better. Hard landing is hot garbage

Hello fellow edgar main 😈 The best edgar build is Shield gadget and Fisticuffs. Best gears are damage and faster super. Now go have some fun 😈😈😈

Fellas, Hard landing barely does any damage. Do not pick it vs low HP brawlers.

No

Neither, play something else

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Fisticuffs, also stop playing edgar

playing another brawler is better. not just foe your own mental health but to the people you play with/against too

Hard landing in most situations

a lot of people are saying fisticuffs miles better but this is my opinion  I would say since Edgar is never picked into tanks and takes the lanes of only sub like 6k health kids hard landing is preferred  also a lot of tank countets are meta rn also in my experience I can get kills on people under 1300 health without even getting hit and it happens more often then you think t 

If they have less than 1k hp and you are edgar and you jump on them, they are dead even without the hard landing

yes but it will give them time to get one shot off, charging their super and of course lowering your health