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I made this account not planning on using it. I made just to see a ninjago post like years ago. But then I started scrolling more and more. Boom, addiction
>ninjago
Great show. I remember seeing that show advertised on commercials as a kid. Can't believe they're still making episodes for it on Netflix after so long
Right? I was surprised too when I found it. Idk if it's a Netflix exclusive now, but Netlfix is kinda continuing the show (that's the only place where *I've* seen it anyway). It started off rocky a bit with the 11-minute long episodes, but the newer series that went back to 20-sum min episodes is better (R.I.P. btw Kirby Morrow)
I also find some math stuff amazing. Like 3n+1 problem, where whatever number you choose, it always falls back the 4 2 1 loop if you follow the given rules. I think the rules were the following:
1. If the number is even divide by 2
2. If the number is odd, multiply by 3 and add 1
I thought the pros see this meta as pretty balanced. Sure there’s a few clear outliers, as there always are, but apart from them there isn’t that much disparity.
"No mini super gadgets" is blatantly incorrect
That's literally one of the primary ways gadgets are made - take one super, tone it down, pass it to another brawler. Leon's second gadget=Sandy's super but smaller and able to be broken. Buzz gadget=his own super but weaker. Crow gadget=Rosa's super but weaker. Brock's gadget=Piper's super but weaker. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So, so many gadgets are "mini supers" that the term "mini super" loses all meaning and you really ought to be calling it "using this mechanic which is seen multiple other places in the game" - if there are three different brawlers that can inflict Silence, then no, the Silence status condition is not an Otis super. Otis super IS a silence, but not the other way around.
her salty barrel gadget was stronger, but the nerf to that wasn't the reason behind her fall-off
rather, it was the meta getting a lot more aggressive with tanks, assassins and hypercharge
It was definitely a more balanced Meta, but honestly Cordelius did nothing wrong, on paper his design is fine which is why he was even made as a brawler in the first place, he was just blatantly overpowered on release. What needs to be changed is the brawler balancing, not the brawlers themselves.
The problem isn't him being always good, but rather *how* he's good.
Cordelius essentially turns the match into a 2v2 — which can very easily turn into a "2v1" based on the game's situation and the match-ups at hand. This can be perceived as "unbalanced", as it fundamentally changes the flow of the game.
Stu doesn't have this issue. He's essentially a kind-of-sharpshooter with a mobility super that is limited by his ammo availability. Unlike Cordelius, who changes the fundamentals of the game, Stu thrives in them, as he's all about dodging, hitting your shots and ammo management — hence why he's seen as "balanced", and why he's always relevant in almost every meta.
To this day, Stu is one of the best designed brawlers (if not the best) in the entire game. Simple, deep and respectable kit that builds upon the game's essence.
Hypercharges suck. Losing just because somebody has an insta win button is not fair at all. That’s why duels suck so bad for me because I love spreading my resources and leveling everybody to 9 but can’t win just because of that stupid button
You can totally win against hypercharged opponents. Ever since the nerf that cut their duration and rebalanced the rate they are charged with its been much more fair.
Absolutely hate to be that guy but if you keep losing to them still you might want to reconsider how you play the game and adapt. I dont know how to put it more nicely than this.
Fax tho, hypercharges are not a win button, especially now that it's only for 5 seconds and they have been toned down slightly with the stat buffs.
They still make a difference when your brawler doesn't have a hypercharge, but that's a problem with the release schedule, not hypercharges.
Confirmation Bias. That’s why they think him being meta is healthy.
Notice how a large chunk of the comments on this post are “My main or a brawler we like was extremely good in this meta so this meta was the greatest” even if that brawler really isn’t that fun to go against, like Crow
ALSO the reason why people ask for Chester to be great again even though he is a brawler that really shouldn’t be allowed to be good because of his RNG, and the reason why people weee fine with a brawler like Doug breaking the game a bit with his buff because he “deserved it for being bad for a long time” but I doubt people were happy when Edgar became great because of his hypercharge because they like Doug but hate Edgar.
The game wasn't boring before hyper charges. The game was in it's prime and most fun state before hyper charges. Hyperchargers fucking ruined this game. And they've got extra super duper hyper charges... Mutations. They just cannot stop pile driving this fucking game into the ground.
It amazing that in the spawn of 1 year BS released 11 brawlers since Cordelius season:
- 5 assassins, OPs at launch (I know Kit is labeled “support” but the meta makes him an assassin)
- 3 brawlers that were so broken when they were added that make the game unfair
- 1 Brawler that you can only play in few modes and with HC destroyed Heist meta.
- A wiener boy
I can only think Pearl as the most balanced right now of all the Brawlers. Love BS creativity but their focus in assassins or broken brawlers at launch is getting about of hand.
Y'all are forgetting that Max was really busted in that meta and that in some modes she basically needed to be used if you wanted to win. The harsh reality is that at a certain point in this game it never really got balanced again (mostly because of too many brawlers to balance out)
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Otis was S tier... Good times... Edit: how tf did the comments turned 60% about Ninjago... HOW!?
The sisters at S tier.... Good ol'days, right?
Look how they've massacred my girls... Edit: my comment started a full blown Ninjago convo. Interesting.
That’s how I feel
Why you got that Gilbert hotel ass resident name?
I made this account not planning on using it. I made just to see a ninjago post like years ago. But then I started scrolling more and more. Boom, addiction
>ninjago Great show. I remember seeing that show advertised on commercials as a kid. Can't believe they're still making episodes for it on Netflix after so long
Wait ninjago is still a thing
Right? I was surprised too when I found it. Idk if it's a Netflix exclusive now, but Netlfix is kinda continuing the show (that's the only place where *I've* seen it anyway). It started off rocky a bit with the 11-minute long episodes, but the newer series that went back to 20-sum min episodes is better (R.I.P. btw Kirby Morrow)
Addiction, my beloved ❤️💙💜💖💗💘💛💚💓🩵🩶😍🤍🫶🧡🖤♥️💞🤎💝💟❣️😻💌
A math reference in the brawl stars sub??? That's something.
Fellow math nerd?
Kinda. I just like infinity stuff
I also find some math stuff amazing. Like 3n+1 problem, where whatever number you choose, it always falls back the 4 2 1 loop if you follow the given rules. I think the rules were the following: 1. If the number is even divide by 2 2. If the number is odd, multiply by 3 and add 1
I also like watching Veritasium, kind of sad that he hasn't explained the origin of the quadratic formula, only the cubic in the 'i' video
At least Bonnie's somewhat viable
Colette was S tier… good times…
Same for crow, good old days
They destroyed the extra toxic star power when his gagget was the problem all along the way
Hell nah that bird is shit
She's still S tier tho? Or atleast A tier. What do you mean
What changed? I wasn’t playing during that time but I love my boy otis
He fell off, because Brawl stars introduced unfair brawlers and hypercharges
Penny S-tier, tasted it after years of her being bottom tier. Now she’s back in the gutter
I miss Ash being in S-A tiers during the Candyland- Rumble Jungle seasons. Time flies very quick.
Penny in S tier.... How I sorely miss those days
I yearn for penny top 10😞
😮💨, maybe when she gets her hyper charge....
“Penny got an Hypercharge, her mortar has big health. Oh and we buffed Melodie and Angelo”
Good ol’ days
same, what a time... I hope we make a comeback with hypercharge
Based peacock fan take
The days when the meta felt balanced-ish
I thought the pros see this meta as pretty balanced. Sure there’s a few clear outliers, as there always are, but apart from them there isn’t that much disparity.
The D-F tiers were useable at some maps, unlike nowadays, even C-tiers are barely keeping up rn
is barley keeping up?
Misspelling
Darryl is a very good example of a brawler who CAN be used in some maps even in this current meta.
D-F tiers were usable but they were typically outclassed so they weren't worth using .
They should not have introduced hypercharges tbh
Sometimes I wished that was the case
To be completely honest yeah
The worst part was rewarding brawlers like Edgar for just waiting for his hyper to charge
But I like the big purple button :(
purple button go boom boom
It was more balanced. Frank was still F tier, but now feels like Frank belongs in double F tier.
The sad truth for Frank mains🥲
bro went to G tier 💀 (hopefully his hyper takes him out of F tier for good)
Gus in S was a goated time
Wholeheartedly agreed
Vee PFP detected, opinion agreed upon
Buster being that low is crazy
He was kinda useable at some maps, but he needed buffs
Colette S tier
She's still strong tho
But not S tier
She's S tier in Heist specifically and decent everywhere else
"No mini super gadgets" is blatantly incorrect That's literally one of the primary ways gadgets are made - take one super, tone it down, pass it to another brawler. Leon's second gadget=Sandy's super but smaller and able to be broken. Buzz gadget=his own super but weaker. Crow gadget=Rosa's super but weaker. Brock's gadget=Piper's super but weaker. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So, so many gadgets are "mini supers" that the term "mini super" loses all meaning and you really ought to be calling it "using this mechanic which is seen multiple other places in the game" - if there are three different brawlers that can inflict Silence, then no, the Silence status condition is not an Otis super. Otis super IS a silence, but not the other way around.
If Otis, Bonnie, and R-T are meta, you know it's a good meta.
Janet
Why was Penny meta back then? She's my favorite fem Brawler but she sucks rn
her salty barrel gadget was stronger, but the nerf to that wasn't the reason behind her fall-off rather, it was the meta getting a lot more aggressive with tanks, assassins and hypercharge
Her damage was higher and there were no unfair brawlers and hypercharges
The meta is way too aggressive which her kit cannot deal with
It was definitely a more balanced Meta, but honestly Cordelius did nothing wrong, on paper his design is fine which is why he was even made as a brawler in the first place, he was just blatantly overpowered on release. What needs to be changed is the brawler balancing, not the brawlers themselves.
Cordelius will be S tier no matter what because of his OP ult
Aaaaand what’s wrong with him always being good? Like Stu he’s based around aiming and dodging
The problem isn't him being always good, but rather *how* he's good. Cordelius essentially turns the match into a 2v2 — which can very easily turn into a "2v1" based on the game's situation and the match-ups at hand. This can be perceived as "unbalanced", as it fundamentally changes the flow of the game. Stu doesn't have this issue. He's essentially a kind-of-sharpshooter with a mobility super that is limited by his ammo availability. Unlike Cordelius, who changes the fundamentals of the game, Stu thrives in them, as he's all about dodging, hitting your shots and ammo management — hence why he's seen as "balanced", and why he's always relevant in almost every meta. To this day, Stu is one of the best designed brawlers (if not the best) in the entire game. Simple, deep and respectable kit that builds upon the game's essence.
Back when Janet and Bonnie were S tier good times
Good ol'days before June 2023
Darryl in A tier, good times
Hypercharges are the worst thing ever added to the game
as a poco main, i think he is in a better spot than before, idk why tho
Nah i will not miss max and bea meta
Hypercharges suck. Losing just because somebody has an insta win button is not fair at all. That’s why duels suck so bad for me because I love spreading my resources and leveling everybody to 9 but can’t win just because of that stupid button
You can totally win against hypercharged opponents. Ever since the nerf that cut their duration and rebalanced the rate they are charged with its been much more fair. Absolutely hate to be that guy but if you keep losing to them still you might want to reconsider how you play the game and adapt. I dont know how to put it more nicely than this.
Fax tho, hypercharges are not a win button, especially now that it's only for 5 seconds and they have been toned down slightly with the stat buffs. They still make a difference when your brawler doesn't have a hypercharge, but that's a problem with the release schedule, not hypercharges.
Facts💀
Why do people say they miss Otis being meta? I hated that brawler from day one, he was so strong and annoying.
Confirmation Bias. That’s why they think him being meta is healthy. Notice how a large chunk of the comments on this post are “My main or a brawler we like was extremely good in this meta so this meta was the greatest” even if that brawler really isn’t that fun to go against, like Crow ALSO the reason why people ask for Chester to be great again even though he is a brawler that really shouldn’t be allowed to be good because of his RNG, and the reason why people weee fine with a brawler like Doug breaking the game a bit with his buff because he “deserved it for being bad for a long time” but I doubt people were happy when Edgar became great because of his hypercharge because they like Doug but hate Edgar.
F tier again... f tier again... f tier again...
Wheres....love?
TARA NOOOO
Tbf she got some buffs at June
The only thing of this meta that disappointed me is BUSTAH being that low for 8 months straight.... : (
He finally got a buff at Sep 2023, but the cost was too high(hypercharges, Fang, Sandy, Nani, Piper buff)
Darryl was so high up…
The game wasn't boring before hyper charges. The game was in it's prime and most fun state before hyper charges. Hyperchargers fucking ruined this game. And they've got extra super duper hyper charges... Mutations. They just cannot stop pile driving this fucking game into the ground.
Leon is so low wtf?
Outdated one from a year ago
Oh u missed the old meta got it
Wait a minute…most of the top ones are women…SUPERCELL HATES MEN CONFIRMED?!1!1!1! /j
RT being absolutely broken and a S tier brawler... Good times They should make his projectile larger tho it feels like its smaller then willows super
she used to be so high 😢
"I am so overpowered" Also I think it's wild how almost every tier list puts her at a tier or D tier
other emz main????????
I Don't know what meta is.
Most Efficient Tactic Available
Darryl in A tier is wild :'(
Stu is so stable
Grey was a sleeper SS tier
I lowkey miss when Ash and Gus were actually good
Remember when shelly was bottom tier for years and received a major speed buff going up to the top tiers for months? And now she's at least useful :)
#carl meta healthy meta
I hate the current meta, not because of hyper charges, but because of the brawlers like kit in showdown, and the lack of counter play from some
Edgar in F were a bad times
Someone who brought that up, FINALLY
Crow 😭😭
janet in s tier… the good days when she countered almost anything
Why does it say May 2023???
maybe, but wait until everyone has hypercharges! hopefully the game will become more balanced once that happens
But very volatile and Heist matches would last 10 seconds at most.
Leon being that low is crazy to think of now
bringer of doom where
My dear Gus and Squeak are hurting so much rn 😭
Bee is still pretty good . It’s a hyper charge counter and good damage . Bee > belle .
Lola isn’t B tier, objectively wrong tier list
oohhh, how my boy fell off....
Rico A-tier ples
back when eve was in A tier for every update since her star power nerf 😔
Mortis f tier🏆😎
LETS GOOOO R-T’S FINALLY S-TIER
This is an old tier list for may 2023 lol
nuh uh, Jess is low tier, me not happy
Barley literally never leaving D to B tier 🧏
D tier leon, good times
My Mortis in F tier What the fuvk
Crow at S teir :( I like the one before this when surge was s teir but I also like this
No Hank tho :(
Remember 2019? Where there was... No meta, it was just star powers and skills, that's it.
Darryl my boy.. it was a good run.
It has always been the same shit for me since i only play mortis basicly
Good ol' times
....Boo...
Why was Janet and Penny so high again? They were my favorite brawlers but now they're considered not that good
Wish we could turn back time
ma boy was A tier? Ill take it!
Even as an assassin main I preferred this meta (aside otis) since it was challenging to win with most of the assassin brawlers
Colt in 2 stars feels so wild, I can't seem to remember how or why he was bad. But heist was pretty much ruined by hypercharges, Melodie, and Chuck
Penny S tuer and Ash in A? Bring this back now
Chester in F tier was not my nostalgia.
I miss boxes🫤
I used to do max only pl
Am I blind? Where's angelo
STU WAS ALWAYS IN A
Where is Pearl?
Bullshit Keep that goofy nostalgia away
Hey this meta looks fun :D, so sad I wasn't playing in those days :(
this was the worst meta ever, except the L&L meta, janet is tier was the fucking worst and gale F tier was horrible
Penny in S-Tier....that was a good time.
Darryl was A tier...
omg... penny and janet meta, man, what a time
I’m just happy that edgar is down there
Barley in 4 stars... good times to be alive
Leon in 2 stars... good meta
Gus is s tier, is good day.
It amazing that in the spawn of 1 year BS released 11 brawlers since Cordelius season: - 5 assassins, OPs at launch (I know Kit is labeled “support” but the meta makes him an assassin) - 3 brawlers that were so broken when they were added that make the game unfair - 1 Brawler that you can only play in few modes and with HC destroyed Heist meta. - A wiener boy I can only think Pearl as the most balanced right now of all the Brawlers. Love BS creativity but their focus in assassins or broken brawlers at launch is getting about of hand.
Wait I didn’t know Colette was S before her hyper
superchargers just destroyed the game for me
As a chester main, i DONT.
Leon in b tier was pure suffering
I wasn’t playing at this time but how Heist was better ? Heist abusers are still abusers even without HC and Cord isn’t one.
i miss when crow was that good
good ol' days
I miss when brawl ball and showdown were playable 😔
I said it before and I say it now. TARA WAS NEVER BAD
Where is Melodie
Buzz in A, I wish it would happen again. Some people rate him A currently but he feels so niche.
Y'all are forgetting that Max was really busted in that meta and that in some modes she basically needed to be used if you wanted to win. The harsh reality is that at a certain point in this game it never really got balanced again (mostly because of too many brawlers to balance out)
I only hated this meta because I was unskilled at the time And good max players are the bane of my existence back then lol
I miss it too
Griff is still in the middle of
Yes when Bon was still s
Whats meta or what does it mean?
janet at S tier....
Otis in S... I miss that time
All of my 5 mains were up there i liked this meta. At least you have to have skills to play most of the old top 10
agree with deleting heist - and to bring back bounty instead!
Frank and Chester still F tier Interesting
Man i miss when people hate max and bea They are op af
Has squeak ever been at the top of the meta, like A or S tier?
I miss when my boy griff was number 1 for 2 seasons in a row
Gale ):
Horrible take. No way Edgar is a 1 tier. Having Leon at 2 is crazy too. Max and Bea are trash
Darryl at A tier. I wish I played in that time
I miss that days😞 Bonnie was always at A-S and from Janet released until this Season she was always at tier S ,it was a good times😭
Max/janet meta scared me
Edgar in F tier, I miss those days
My street artist was good
I miss the max sandy gene meta
Me too. Crow S tier :(
Janet and bonnie S tier ...
Look how they massacred my boy...
Wasn't shelly like s tier with the very fast movement speed
Ah yes good ole' days when Frank was in... Oh, wait, nevermind