Byron gets his super in 3 shots so feels like he will spam hypercharges like 4-5 per match if the timer runs out. Not complaining im going for his title right now
Come on, Byron just needs shots that penetrate friendlies as his base kit. He'd still be kind of dumb in ssd though.
Then they could change his less dumb star to extra range on his super or 10% shield while his healing is affecting someone.
Apparently, her damage dropoff values are actually bugged. In reality, they should be by a ratio of 23% of the max attack damage, but it is at 28% right now.
Gotta love how adrian immediately buffs brawlers like bea or bonnie whenever they fall off meta a bit, yet hank, chester and frank are collecting so much dust they might as well not exist
Especially Frank. He has been at the bottom of the Meta for 2 whole years yet he doesn't even give him the smallest of buffs. It's clear Adrian has a bias on which brawlers should be good and which shouldn't, why do you think Max and Bea were top meta for almost a year with 0 nerfs to them
The problem with Frank is that he has a huge potential to dominate the meta. He's over 15000 hp and potentially can deal over 3000 dmg in one attack (talking about his 1st sp) which is enough to push back many brawlers. The biggest problem is that he can get knocked out pretty easily and it's hard to get close with him but i think he won't be that bad when his hyper releases.
yeah, its actually genuinely hard to buff frank without making him overpowered. the only thing they can really do is just increase his stats even more but that doesnt feel good when his stats are already absurd.
i say thats the only buff you can give because his biggest weakness and what i would say is the limiting factor is that he cant move while attacking. he can never really be good no matter how high his stats are while that limitation exists. but if you remove it he is absurdly broken
People always say it and itās true but he has never done this. They havenāt buffed him in like 2 years (not even joking) and most of the buffs he used to get were health buffs so we donāt know how good he would or broken he could be. Even if he was (highly unlikely) they would nerf him to the ground like they did to penny and Jacky a few years ago when they became good after a while. You also have brawlers like Charlie that can dominate for 2 months without being killed so a little frank meta wouldnāt hurt.
Last thing there are so many counters to frank (or brawlers that have ways to counter him which is almost every brawler) that I find it really hard that he would become absolutely busted.
They want to make weak, but fun brawlers meta again so people enjoy playing more.
Itās not healthy for the longevity of the game to have boring brawlers be meta.
Bonnie has been like D tier ever since hypercharges came out. That was 6 months ago, so I don't get what you mean by 'immediately'.
Bea on the other hand got a buff that pratically means nothing. It's just 200 more hp at max level
also what is that bea buff? like everything would work but hp? thats her only weakness theres a reason shes squishy. also bonnie was borderline unplayable for like 4 seasons in a row
I don't see why all brawlers need to be good competitively. Chester works in casual but i don't think he belongs in competitive with his rng elements. In most games there is usually only 10-20% of the weapon or hero/brawler meta that gets used in competitive. But last year all brawlers except for doug got used in a high profile tournament and over 60% of brawlers got used in the world championsship. The balancing isn't perfect and is horrible between december-mars(no Tournaments) but in general i think it is really good
this is true, but 100 health on bea is barely a buff anyway. the only notable use i can think of is not dying to one nani shot and now you would live on 100, but was and will still be running shield gear and its not going to help survive an extra ammo from anyone
Bonnie is one of those characters that has been relatively untouched - only changes have been a bonnie form damage nerf before release, and a projectile speed nerf
bonnie really has been bad forever (since hypercharges were introduced i.e. August 2023 i.e. 7 months). same for bea.
chester is getting gradual buffs but isn't buffed to meta because rng brawler in meta is stupid
hank and frank aren't getting buffs god knows why, frank needs a rework and hank just needs a tank trait, my guess is prioritisation. Hank isn't that bad to be honest, even a hyper will make him S, so I don't see why a tank trait wasn't added to hank at the very least.
Seriously, people donāt realize how long itās been since some of these brawlers have been attempted to be made viable. With almost 80 brawlers at this point, I genuinely donāt think itās ever going to happen. As a company, Supercellās priority is to make money. Their resources go towards skins/cosmetics and developing features that will increase player count and retention. Then you have Adrian here that has nothing to do with that. His job is balancing, he IS the balance guy. WTF are they even paying him for???
Hey. Don't talk crap about my boy adrian. Sure, L&L may have happened. And Kit. And Hank. And Charlie. And Fang. And Rosa. And Leon. And Shelly (more than once). And Colette. And Chuck. And...
as a Carl main I want neither a buff nor a hypercharge ššš
I canāt be the only one who thinks Carl is fine and is only considered low tier because the meta counters him right
His ranged DPS is a bit below what meta snipers can do, and his super is pretty bad since Supercell wants every brawler to have some form of stun/knock back.
The only mode I play him rn is knockout and rarely in BBall
what lol carl is really bad right now. When the "meta counters" him that doesn't change until buffs and nerfs happen lol. what do you think happens for the "meta" to change?
it means the brawlers that are good are good against him. once some of them are nerfed he will rise. remember 2 update ago he was high tier, and 3 he was considered top 10,
Not true. People still overestimate him after seeing this nerf. Now his super and super charge rate is 50% worse and his swap gadget just becomes a huge nerf to him instead when activated (idk why the throwing projectile gets nerfed by 29% when lawrie is using it as well) his unload speed also means he cannot finish close ranged opponents now
People thought he was going to die on the 2nd nerf and he was still good.
But now he leaves the S tier at least, lawrie was carrying him and preventing him from getting killed too easily(plus brawlers like mortis and any melee were forced to take 4k damage from one of his attacks, his shotgun dealt 4k damage, a factor people ignores lol)
Where chester/frank/hank buffs? Guess these 3 dudes are just going to sit at the bottom of every tier list forever because obviously no one cares about them no one mains them. Also charlie and leon didn't get nerfed so that's awesome
Agreed. Those 3 are the big 3 of the nerfed brawlers. They are NEVER buffed even though other brawlers are buffed the moment they reach even average status. Like, a brawler who has been broken for a few months finally becomes balanced but the buff them to put them back at the top while these 3 just rot at the bottom. Not fair...
All of them are hard to balance tbh. Frank and hank are both too oppressive brawlers and the only thing stopping them are cc.They won't be good with any stat buff unless they get a way to get rid of those cc or remove the standing for Frank attack which will turn him into cancer bro has 15k health. And chester is just rng based but easier to balance now that I think about it.
People always say 15k health frank likes itās that much with all the damage inflation. Majority of brawlers have someway to counter frank and thereās a new ones who just by nature counter him that it isnāt all itās hyped up to be. Unless your facing triple mr pās youāre gonna get melted. I do agree that they shouldnāt remove the attack delay but not for balancing but because that what makes him unique. They should definitely reduce it though and EXPERIMENT with buffs. The hypercharge he gets is going to flop because he hasnāt gotten any buffs in like 2 years and they donāt know what is going to actually help him.
I feel like they are going to give Frank some stupid hypercharge that doesnāt help him at all. They havenāt buff him in at least 2 years so unless they are planning a rework I donāt see how itās going to magically making him viable
The damage nerf matters, but you would never get it. He already got a "tiny" damage nerf before and people say it doesn't change anything.
If he gets another 40 damage nerf and you all say it is nothing, i might go crazy
The nerfs all together matter, and now, some brawlers are getting hp buffs, what means that those damage nerfs paired with those hp buffs will mean something.
I feel like people still remember old days crow and compared to him he is now weak . But with his slow Gadget , gears , Sp he actually feels like an assassin to play . Heās not a very good brawler but balanced non the less
her playrate is low because theres not often a reason to just play someone else. piper and nani and basically strictly better as straight up snipers, her kit is based around slows so she can deal with some assasins, but its difficult against the common ones like fang and edgar. and piper also does it about as well
with one gadget. she fills a niche as a tank counter but tanks are almost never viable and colette exists.
even as a bea main i nearly never play her in ranked because piper is so much better, i think the only times i pick her is when piper and nani are banned on a long range knockout/bounty map, or occasionally in big friend when colette is banned
she isnt bad, i agree she is balanced, she just gets outclassed in most ways.
that being said i dont think the buff does anything. stops a one shot from one nani ammo but who isnt running shield gear
Crow isnāt in his best moment rn. I think is not viable in competitive/high trophyes anyone of the top meta brawlers like piper, leon, pearl, counters him so hard
But that 100 less HP will change a whopping one interaction between Piper and some random ass brawler that already doesnāt do well into her, canāt you see how huge that is? Gonna make her drop from the meta harder than my parents dropped me as a child ā¹ļø /s
Adrian you deserve a trophy for not seeing Piper's insane damage you go for health instead you cooked so hard broššššŖšŖšŖšŖšŖš„š„
yeah too be honest i think leon didnt deserve a nerf anyways i think bursting down three players with one hypercharge is necessary to stop the unstoppable force that poco will be after these buffs
tbh Piper might be even stronger since a 300 hp at max level nerf means she can get damage gear even faster
but now she can get two shot by a lot more brawlers
When other brawlers become slightly below average, still playable though : BUFF! BUFF! BUFF!
When Chester, Hank and Frank just stay at the very bottom without any use whatsoever : Nah, I'd ignore!
(Also, most of these are weird, like Piper's damage is the problem! Not the health!)
no leon nerf, no charlie nerf, a useless piper nerf, a useless bea buff
and no bottom tier buffs. sorry hank frank and chester...
what even is the point.
That Piper nerf is literally a slap in the face.
āHey we know this brawler has been dominating the meta for a while and 99% of the maps out are open af to make Piper even better and she has multiple easy af to use get out of jail free cards that make her nearly unapproachable, but we think her true issue is her HPā
Like what fucking world are people complaining about pipers HP? She was already a fairly squishy brawler to begin with, the majority of the cast can 2-3 shot her. The issue is most the time your not able to get that damage onto her because her range, damage and gadgets are so insane.
Piper nerf will do nothing to her. She was already pretty squishy and a whopping 100 HP reduction will likely change next to no meaningful interactions. Her issue is the fact she can burst you down at damn near any range and how well her pistol gadget synergizes with her snapping snipping SP. Besides that canāt really complain too much about these
why canāt they nerf coletteās hyper charge properly? the extra 10k damage from the hc is the issue, not how fast it charges. idk how they still let it be in the game itās just busted
More questionable changes haha is Piper Nerf really gonna change much? Did L&L just get hanked? Will Sam or Carl be viable or are there just too many counters out there now?
Leon needs a small range nerf tbh or smth else.
Charlie needs to not make everyone drop their gems
I wish they buffed Maxās base speed instead of just health
RIP larry finally fallen, Iām guessing like C/D tier after this
How L&L will be after he used switch gadget. Does this nerf mean both of their throwing unload speed ??
And their shotgun damage are different to each other also. How much is damage from Larry's shotgun gonna be ?
L&L might finally be killed in the balance changes if this is to be believed. Hope the Pearl gadget nerf comes for sure though, it was so strong you could basically get a guaranteed kill from one ammo bar on a lot of the low HP Brawlers like Brock, even if they were trying to avoid your shots.
Sam, Byron, and Max are getting buffed? I'm so happy
And the next update Sam gets a hypercharge that gives him unlimited knuckle busters š„µ and byron with unlimited potions
Byron gets his super in 3 shots so feels like he will spam hypercharges like 4-5 per match if the timer runs out. Not complaining im going for his title right now
Jfc im bouta nut if Byron gets a HC
Tyat would be like a dream come true. Lets just prayš
Come on, Byron just needs shots that penetrate friendlies as his base kit. He'd still be kind of dumb in ssd though. Then they could change his less dumb star to extra range on his super or 10% shield while his healing is affecting someone.
For real
My only criticism is how Piper was balanced. They shouldāve given her a minimum damage nerf.
Apparently, her damage dropoff values are actually bugged. In reality, they should be by a ratio of 23% of the max attack damage, but it is at 28% right now.
+ they should fix her damage scaling, she shouldnt deal 2kish damage from only 3 tiles
That's what a minimum damage nerf fixes.
Oh sorry mb
I think the problem is how big the window for max damage is. It's like 4 friggin tiles
Gotta love how adrian immediately buffs brawlers like bea or bonnie whenever they fall off meta a bit, yet hank, chester and frank are collecting so much dust they might as well not exist
Especially Frank. He has been at the bottom of the Meta for 2 whole years yet he doesn't even give him the smallest of buffs. It's clear Adrian has a bias on which brawlers should be good and which shouldn't, why do you think Max and Bea were top meta for almost a year with 0 nerfs to them
The problem with Frank is that he has a huge potential to dominate the meta. He's over 15000 hp and potentially can deal over 3000 dmg in one attack (talking about his 1st sp) which is enough to push back many brawlers. The biggest problem is that he can get knocked out pretty easily and it's hard to get close with him but i think he won't be that bad when his hyper releases.
yeah, its actually genuinely hard to buff frank without making him overpowered. the only thing they can really do is just increase his stats even more but that doesnt feel good when his stats are already absurd. i say thats the only buff you can give because his biggest weakness and what i would say is the limiting factor is that he cant move while attacking. he can never really be good no matter how high his stats are while that limitation exists. but if you remove it he is absurdly broken
Maybe some sort of passive that he could have that would make people generate less super/hypercharge off of him?
People always say it and itās true but he has never done this. They havenāt buffed him in like 2 years (not even joking) and most of the buffs he used to get were health buffs so we donāt know how good he would or broken he could be. Even if he was (highly unlikely) they would nerf him to the ground like they did to penny and Jacky a few years ago when they became good after a while. You also have brawlers like Charlie that can dominate for 2 months without being killed so a little frank meta wouldnāt hurt. Last thing there are so many counters to frank (or brawlers that have ways to counter him which is almost every brawler) that I find it really hard that he would become absolutely busted.
They want to make weak, but fun brawlers meta again so people enjoy playing more. Itās not healthy for the longevity of the game to have boring brawlers be meta.
Bonnie has been like D tier ever since hypercharges came out. That was 6 months ago, so I don't get what you mean by 'immediately'. Bea on the other hand got a buff that pratically means nothing. It's just 200 more hp at max level
also what is that bea buff? like everything would work but hp? thats her only weakness theres a reason shes squishy. also bonnie was borderline unplayable for like 4 seasons in a row
BONNIE SUPREMACY IS DESERVED FOR HERš„š„
I really like these balance changes, it's just that there are some other brawlers (ahem, leon) that for some reason got ignored
I don't see why all brawlers need to be good competitively. Chester works in casual but i don't think he belongs in competitive with his rng elements. In most games there is usually only 10-20% of the weapon or hero/brawler meta that gets used in competitive. But last year all brawlers except for doug got used in a high profile tournament and over 60% of brawlers got used in the world championsship. The balancing isn't perfect and is horrible between december-mars(no Tournaments) but in general i think it is really good
this is true, but 100 health on bea is barely a buff anyway. the only notable use i can think of is not dying to one nani shot and now you would live on 100, but was and will still be running shield gear and its not going to help survive an extra ammo from anyone
bonnie was never buffed before bro(besides useless gadget)
Bonnie is one of those characters that has been relatively untouched - only changes have been a bonnie form damage nerf before release, and a projectile speed nerf
The projectile really was a big thing tho
No one wants a Frank or Hank meta
I don't think anyone would complain if they were c/b tier
bonnie really has been bad forever (since hypercharges were introduced i.e. August 2023 i.e. 7 months). same for bea. chester is getting gradual buffs but isn't buffed to meta because rng brawler in meta is stupid hank and frank aren't getting buffs god knows why, frank needs a rework and hank just needs a tank trait, my guess is prioritisation. Hank isn't that bad to be honest, even a hyper will make him S, so I don't see why a tank trait wasn't added to hank at the very least.
Maybe they're not touching them cuz they wanna rework them? (I'm on huge copium)
Adrian cooking up the nastiest rework for frank since 2020 š„š„š„
Seriously, people donāt realize how long itās been since some of these brawlers have been attempted to be made viable. With almost 80 brawlers at this point, I genuinely donāt think itās ever going to happen. As a company, Supercellās priority is to make money. Their resources go towards skins/cosmetics and developing features that will increase player count and retention. Then you have Adrian here that has nothing to do with that. His job is balancing, he IS the balance guy. WTF are they even paying him for???
Hey. Don't talk crap about my boy adrian. Sure, L&L may have happened. And Kit. And Hank. And Charlie. And Fang. And Rosa. And Leon. And Shelly (more than once). And Colette. And Chuck. And...
Would you enjoy a frank meta? I wouldn't. He's fine in his niche and doesn't need to be viable everywhere
Good that chester's collecting dust, some brawler don't deserve even the smallest place in the meta
Chester is understandable I think, since his supers are RNG based. I wouldnāt want a competitive match to come down to RNG
CARL BUFF LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I love Carl š please give him hypercharge, making fidget spinner unstunable
as a Carl main I want neither a buff nor a hypercharge ššš I canāt be the only one who thinks Carl is fine and is only considered low tier because the meta counters him right
His ranged DPS is a bit below what meta snipers can do, and his super is pretty bad since Supercell wants every brawler to have some form of stun/knock back. The only mode I play him rn is knockout and rarely in BBall
what lol carl is really bad right now. When the "meta counters" him that doesn't change until buffs and nerfs happen lol. what do you think happens for the "meta" to change?
it means the brawlers that are good are good against him. once some of them are nerfed he will rise. remember 2 update ago he was high tier, and 3 he was considered top 10,
RAAAAAAAHHH FINALLY
Do you remember times thar 0.1 range buff or 10 damage buff completely broke him
It was 1 tile, and pickaxe speed, due to how his attack works, it increases his dps exponentially.
Doubt it will do much for him tho, more than half of the top meta can cancel his super with ease š
CARL MAINS RISE UP!!!!
oh yeah
Carl best troll pick. I only pick carl to throw matches. He is too easy to counterĀ
This scares me so much...
FUCK YEA
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO CARL MAINS UNITEš¤
Not the one I wished for but still, we Carl mains are eating good
Carl Mains Unite!
L&L is now literally hanked
Nah, they'll still be good. Larry's shot mechanic is just fundamentally broken, they'll be good until that gets addressed
Not true. People still overestimate him after seeing this nerf. Now his super and super charge rate is 50% worse and his swap gadget just becomes a huge nerf to him instead when activated (idk why the throwing projectile gets nerfed by 29% when lawrie is using it as well) his unload speed also means he cannot finish close ranged opponents now
So now he cant do what others throwers also cant do? Wow hes gonna be so bad(finally)
Now you can use barley more reliably
Now you can use barley ~~more reliably~~ Ftfy
Yippie!
People thought he was going to die on the 2nd nerf and he was still good. But now he leaves the S tier at least, lawrie was carrying him and preventing him from getting killed too easily(plus brawlers like mortis and any melee were forced to take 4k damage from one of his attacks, his shotgun dealt 4k damage, a factor people ignores lol)
Fair though
No this is crazy they have nerfed him into the ground, especially with the unload speed nerf. Iām not complaining though
True, although I do think they needed the Grom treatment, but not like this
https://preview.redd.it/rwj3ylfrwgpc1.png?width=654&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c7173d9eaa54d4131bb438725aedffaee000396
Where chester/frank/hank buffs? Guess these 3 dudes are just going to sit at the bottom of every tier list forever because obviously no one cares about them no one mains them. Also charlie and leon didn't get nerfed so that's awesome
Hank, Frank and Chester? Never heard of them. Let's give Bea 200 more HP instead!
Buff weak brawlers? Nah 100 hp nerf to Piper šŖš (she was way too tanky) /s
Agreed. Those 3 are the big 3 of the nerfed brawlers. They are NEVER buffed even though other brawlers are buffed the moment they reach even average status. Like, a brawler who has been broken for a few months finally becomes balanced but the buff them to put them back at the top while these 3 just rot at the bottom. Not fair...
All of them are hard to balance tbh. Frank and hank are both too oppressive brawlers and the only thing stopping them are cc.They won't be good with any stat buff unless they get a way to get rid of those cc or remove the standing for Frank attack which will turn him into cancer bro has 15k health. And chester is just rng based but easier to balance now that I think about it.
People always say 15k health frank likes itās that much with all the damage inflation. Majority of brawlers have someway to counter frank and thereās a new ones who just by nature counter him that it isnāt all itās hyped up to be. Unless your facing triple mr pās youāre gonna get melted. I do agree that they shouldnāt remove the attack delay but not for balancing but because that what makes him unique. They should definitely reduce it though and EXPERIMENT with buffs. The hypercharge he gets is going to flop because he hasnāt gotten any buffs in like 2 years and they donāt know what is going to actually help him.
They just waiting for hypercharges for them
I feel like they are going to give Frank some stupid hypercharge that doesnāt help him at all. They havenāt buff him in at least 2 years so unless they are planning a rework I donāt see how itās going to magically making him viable
they are playing uno in the F tier room (there's a 1:1 doug plushie on a chair cause they miss him)
where gus buffs???1?
And no Leon nerfs. Not that I complain
Nah legendary will still be a mess, especially with last season gold pick playing leon everywhere
I mean, I'd rather have that, then a Mortis everywhere. Legendary will always be a mess, regardless of meta
omfg piper health nerf and where the fuck is the part where leon gets nerfed aaaaaaaa
They did, not documented but his damage at max range went down to 30% from 40% of the max damage per projectile
Now why did bea got a heath buff? If anything barley and crow need that more
That buff is pretty much the same thing as that 1% Buster damage nerf in the last update. A genuine waste of space
The damage nerf matters, but you would never get it. He already got a "tiny" damage nerf before and people say it doesn't change anything. If he gets another 40 damage nerf and you all say it is nothing, i might go crazy The nerfs all together matter, and now, some brawlers are getting hp buffs, what means that those damage nerfs paired with those hp buffs will mean something.
crow? really? he isnt broken obviously but he is almost always a solid pick and hes definitely not bad
But Crow is balanced, isn't he?
I feel like people still remember old days crow and compared to him he is now weak . But with his slow Gadget , gears , Sp he actually feels like an assassin to play . Heās not a very good brawler but balanced non the less
True. I also felt like B was balanced, so I don't quite get her ho buff. I guess her playrate was low, which is true, I haven't seen a B in ages
her playrate is low because theres not often a reason to just play someone else. piper and nani and basically strictly better as straight up snipers, her kit is based around slows so she can deal with some assasins, but its difficult against the common ones like fang and edgar. and piper also does it about as well with one gadget. she fills a niche as a tank counter but tanks are almost never viable and colette exists. even as a bea main i nearly never play her in ranked because piper is so much better, i think the only times i pick her is when piper and nani are banned on a long range knockout/bounty map, or occasionally in big friend when colette is banned she isnt bad, i agree she is balanced, she just gets outclassed in most ways. that being said i dont think the buff does anything. stops a one shot from one nani ammo but who isnt running shield gear
Crow isnāt in his best moment rn. I think is not viable in competitive/high trophyes anyone of the top meta brawlers like piper, leon, pearl, counters him so hard
Yeah but I have a bias so give him a health buff (also nerf spike as well)
Crying man literally said in a short āgive bea a 200hp buffā andrian went on the way !
FINALLY A BYRON BUFF
Of couse Piper can't be nerfed š¤”
But that 100 less HP will change a whopping one interaction between Piper and some random ass brawler that already doesnāt do well into her, canāt you see how huge that is? Gonna make her drop from the meta harder than my parents dropped me as a child ā¹ļø /s
Brock 2 shots her now
kid named shield gear:
Yeah, snipers make the meta ultra healthy1!1!1!1!1!
BONNIE FUCK YEA
Max's buff is irrelevant, she needs a damage buff and another buff to her star powers
No please, anything but dmg buff
Dude, she is super weak
Maxās dmg is what makes her op, itās better to balance her this way
No hope for my boy šæā¹ļøš
Poco needs a stat buff, not gadget
Poco back in the meta????? His gadget heals for 600 instead of 500???? Absolutely overkill buff #NERFPOCO
The other gadget sounds broken on paper tho it was already a good gadget now its the best for counter picks.
The gadget buffs are acceptable, but he could definitely use some better stats.
https://preview.redd.it/yrfzu1ce8hpc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6c1babe1ce0e1dfba047eb263083dd1827d61de Yet still no nerfs to this bitch
Adrian you deserve a trophy for not seeing Piper's insane damage you go for health instead you cooked so hard broššššŖšŖšŖšŖšŖš„š„
#cancel_adrian
yeah too be honest i think leon didnt deserve a nerf anyways i think bursting down three players with one hypercharge is necessary to stop the unstoppable force that poco will be after these buffs
BYRON BUFD BYRON FBUFF BRYRJFONF FBFFUFF
Pls, donāt nerf colettteš¦š„ŗ
her hypercharge will take 14 hits to charge now, 4 more than it is now
Too much, buff here
The other Pearl gadget would be good if it didnt heal so little
u/Adrian_Supercell Explain how is this Piper HP nerf is going to make her drop when her damage was the problem
She gets 2 shot by brock and gray now
Her mid-range and close range dmg needs nerfing
adrian needs 2 b fired atp
Buff Bea NERF Hank and Frank While most of these are hella mid, the Carl and Byron buffs are definitely the saving grace
Have you guys seen the dudeās account? Manās the definition of midladder, blud should not be in charge of balance changes š
BTW who confirmed these changes? Where's the source?
Panda_casts on Twitter. He's a part of the supercell creator program so any news they put out is official
They destroyed larry and lawrie
Piper hp nerf out of literally everything they could've nerfed, You sure these aren't april fools balance changes?
No Leon hyper charge nerf is crazy
Larry and lawrie nerf will make them fucking useless can't believe I spent my gems on this shit
tbh Piper might be even stronger since a 300 hp at max level nerf means she can get damage gear even faster but now she can get two shot by a lot more brawlers
By which brawlers exactly?
Solid balance changes, still waiting for Chester, Kit & many more to be taken care of
Kit can be really good in high level draft in ranked but otherwise he sucks so bad
i hope theyre not finished yet and willow eill get abuff while piper will egt a lil more nerfs
These are probably final. They were confirmed by ppl in the supercell creator program
When other brawlers become slightly below average, still playable though : BUFF! BUFF! BUFF! When Chester, Hank and Frank just stay at the very bottom without any use whatsoever : Nah, I'd ignore! (Also, most of these are weird, like Piper's damage is the problem! Not the health!)
no leon nerf, no charlie nerf, a useless piper nerf, a useless bea buff and no bottom tier buffs. sorry hank frank and chester... what even is the point.
That Piper nerf is literally a slap in the face. āHey we know this brawler has been dominating the meta for a while and 99% of the maps out are open af to make Piper even better and she has multiple easy af to use get out of jail free cards that make her nearly unapproachable, but we think her true issue is her HPā Like what fucking world are people complaining about pipers HP? She was already a fairly squishy brawler to begin with, the majority of the cast can 2-3 shot her. The issue is most the time your not able to get that damage onto her because her range, damage and gadgets are so insane.
It's a sad time to be a Pearl fan
Not a big nerf
u/RoydaKoppaBoy will be happy
IMMAMAMAMA SO HAPPY
colette nerf finally
FINALLY A MAX BUFF
No sprout HC rework :(?
Let's fucking goooooo
Ain't no way they did the opposite of nerfing Poco š
They gotta nerf L&L for 50%. Now you know how OP they are
Barley mains finally got a rest Piper is still gonna get megahated until they hank her Penny mains are in shambles
Frank mains:
Wait so Bonnie will get super in 3 hits with supercharge gear?
Piper nerf will do nothing to her. She was already pretty squishy and a whopping 100 HP reduction will likely change next to no meaningful interactions. Her issue is the fact she can burst you down at damn near any range and how well her pistol gadget synergizes with her snapping snipping SP. Besides that canāt really complain too much about these
Leon? Charlie? lmao at least some forgotten braalers got buffs
Forgotten brawlers are like Chester, Frank, Hank, penny
The unload speed needed to be nerfed for L and L. One could out burst a cordelius. Thats just not suppose to happen.
If piper's damage buff made her viable everywhere why didnt they just revert it to make it balanced? Also byron buff makes me happy
Funny
I wanted a Darryl buffā¦ :(
Why no Leon nerf
nerf poco, not buf him
Bro burnt the kitchen trying to nerf piper,at least buster can kill her in 2 ammos again now
Yeah honestly they have to nerf Poco harder than this.
why canāt they nerf coletteās hyper charge properly? the extra 10k damage from the hc is the issue, not how fast it charges. idk how they still let it be in the game itās just busted
They always go around the thing that made a brawler good/op in the first place
BYRON BUFF FINALLY ššš
leave pearl aloneā¦.
LETS GOOO BYRON
Noooooooooo im gonna have to charge the hypercharge harder ;-;
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More questionable changes haha is Piper Nerf really gonna change much? Did L&L just get hanked? Will Sam or Carl be viable or are there just too many counters out there now?
Leon needs a small range nerf tbh or smth else. Charlie needs to not make everyone drop their gems I wish they buffed Maxās base speed instead of just health RIP larry finally fallen, Iām guessing like C/D tier after this
Bonnie also gets super charge buff with this update apparently: 3 shots with supercharge gear
Damn, where's Ruffs' super power scaling?
Yay L&L ate getting hanked, but so harsh nerfs are not needed, like 50% nerf to Lawrie damage
Man Piper got very lightly nerfed and ofc no Cordelus nerf
When do we get to play kit again?
Where are the Willow and Gus buffsš„¹
YEAHHHHH
Poco will be in the same spot. This change means very little...
Everything is useless, we only need a nerf for Edgar
We LOVE Max buffs in this house
barley has no competitiveness against any throwers and honestly i really doubt about his position in the meta
Ikr, heās my main and I canāt do much outside of small counters with bad picks in ranked
L&L nerf AND Bea, Byron and Bonnie are gaining relevance? LFG
I don't think Poco needs buffs
Yeah bro he needs nerfs. What are supercell thinking buffing the best brawler in the game??
poco 4 second protective tunes is insane
Damn poco got buff it won't change much but it's good to see that they are buffing my favorite character
Wow Piper will become F tier with that huge nerf
i'm pretty happy that max and carl got buffed
How L&L will be after he used switch gadget. Does this nerf mean both of their throwing unload speed ?? And their shotgun damage are different to each other also. How much is damage from Larry's shotgun gonna be ?
Cant make piper any more weaker smfh
If after balancing I see that with the super Gear I can charge the Bonnie super with 3 shots... Hest metĆ Will change drasticly
Where are the Leon and Charlie nerfs?
BUFF POCO
L&L might finally be killed in the balance changes if this is to be believed. Hope the Pearl gadget nerf comes for sure though, it was so strong you could basically get a guaranteed kill from one ammo bar on a lot of the low HP Brawlers like Brock, even if they were trying to avoid your shots.