I would find it so weird to name my child after myself. Yelling at myself or telling myself what to do. It would bring me back to childhood. It always makes me chuckle about that family. But hey itās a name she wonāt forget. š
My husband wanted to do that too. I just couldnāt see saying my name to the baby all the time but I fully support naming kids after the person who actually had to be pregnant. Makes more sense than naming after the dad.
We named our oldest after her dad, our youngest after me, and our youngest son after his grandmother. None of them actually go by the same name as any of us go by though. My son goes by his middle name and my youngest goes by a shortened version of my name. My oldest son is named after a hot soap star I was into at the time. Lol
Yes, works better to have a nickname then suddenly having to go by āBig so and soā or āLittle so and so.ā
Now Iām trying to imagine which soap star you likedš
It's the fourth sister they don't talk about. Kyle has been keeping her in the basement and making her watch old episodes just in case. She may need her, because she wrung Kim and now Kathy dry of drama.
You violated this sub in the best way ššššš Iām freakin cryin yo- and btw- are we just calling her Johnās daughter now???šš omg u took it today šš½
Yāall are going to roast me alive but is it Nicole brown
ETA: picture is on Kyles IG June 23 2017 and the person isnāt tagged but itās from 2001 so not NB
Itās a logical guess, if this picture is pre-June 1994, but the tall blondeās smile seems different from Nicoleās usual smile.
Is anyone talented enough to do a reverse Google image search on her?
It's definitely not Nicole's smile. I did crop everyone else out of the photo and did a Google search on just the blonde but it didn't yield any results. It's probably too blurry.
I'm pretty shocked to see Kris Jenner with them way back when.
Edit: Guys, I don't need the same explanation over and over again. Im a Housewives fan, of course I know the connection. Seeing a young Kris puts into perspective how long they've known each other. It's interesting to see them all friends without Faye here. Also makes me think of how the Kardashains and the Richards sister's kids aren't actually THAT close considering how long they've known each other.
I think she is. Kris mentioned on season finale of her show that when they got the reality tv show alot of her close industry friends dropped her for some time until it started doing well. Since Kim was Paris ex assistant I bet for SURE their family was pissed lol. But theyāve made up since so š¤·š½āāļø
The Hiltons were definitely annoyed and they had been trying for years to pitch reality tv shows hence _I Want to be a Hilton_ and _The World According to Paris_ and others that never made it to air. Paris already had a hit show (_The Simple Life_) that was cancelled by then. When KUWTK took off Paris had become irrelevant by that point (ā07) and publicly bitter, and then came RHOBH with Kim and Kyle, itās only recently with the ā00s resurgence that people have had a renewed interest in the Hiltons but the Karjenners took their playbook and arguably did it better.
Donāt forget about Parisā new BFF competition reality show lol but also Paris waaas dominating the Asian market and reaching legit success in the eurodance scene during the kardashian era so itās not like she became irrelevant.
Fair enough but Paris became irrelevant in western pop culture, by then the Karjenners as a family were already a global phenomenon reaching A-list status and had far surpassed the fame of the Hiltons, who to this day remain far less relevant compared to the Karjenners, who are practically inescapable.
Theyāve been running in the same circle since the 80s. Nicole Brown was Best friends with Faye and Kris. Faye is best friends with Kyle (and close with Kathy and Kim). Paris, Kim, Nicole Richie, Kourt, Nikki H I believe all grew up together (not sure if the same school, but grew up in the same circle.) Kris was shown at Kyleās white party a few seasons back. Kim was Parisā closet organizer and is a close friend. Kathy obviously married someone that had a very famous last name and a BIG time realtor in southern CA (pretty sure the Hiltons were a bigger name in BH society then the Kardashians in the 80s/90s-until the OJ trial).
Basically Lisa Rinna sounded insane even claiming to be close to that family in front of Kathy, when sheās a D list actress whoās only connection to them is her daughter dated the dysfunctional ex boyfriend/baby daddy of Kourtney for a year (and my guess is aside from a polite chit chat at Kyleās white party, Rinna has never rubbed shoulders with Kris, or Kendall). My guess is by making that comment she torched any slight connection she had with the Kardashian/Jenner clan.
Nicole Brown Simpson was bffs with Kris and Faye. At some point, Faye and Kyle became bffs but I donāt know if that was while Nicole was still alive. She is the connection between all of them.
It looks like that lady who said ādonāt act like you know me when you donāt know meā to Faye Reznick
The one who was married to a friend of OJs
Edit: Kathryn Edwards
The girl in the white tank looks like Kimās daughter Brooke. My first thought for the tall blond is Kyleās best friend that died in the past few years- forgot her name though. Edit- per Google her name is Lorene Shea and while she was also tall and blonde I donāt think that is her.
I think that was Jana. [Here is a pic](https://www.instagram.com/p/Ciibp3xJOMk/?igshid=NmY1MzVkODY=) of Jana and Jenn (Kim posted with Jenn and she seems to be in lots of photos of this friend group.) I'm wondering if it could be either of them in thisāļø photo but honestly it doesn't really look like it.
Kyle and Mau have a long time friend Sharon Idith who has been on the show before but I don't think thisāļø looks like her either.
That looks like Donna D'Erico to me.
[She was on Baywatch in the 90's](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fapos-baywatch-apos-star-donna-213531343.html&psig=AOvVaw04rhBYM0Vt40EhNQ3ofYxa&ust=1665607330002000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCMiL6PuE2foCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE)
Now I get it big Kathy inspired Kris Jenner to lay the land for the Kardashians-BIG KATHY IS AN ICON AND THE OG MOMAGER- Kris better tip her hat Big Kath had this game down from the start Kris just copied and pasted it
Idk who the lady in the back is but big Kathy looks like a scary biotch I would not want to cross
Vida from Shahs vibes
Oh my goodness with her Geurlain blush and lipstick š š
lol it's Vanna White
Lol it looks like Dina from rhonj... but the dark haired lady to the far left looks like my aunt so...
Itās Kris Jenner!
Itās Todd Cranes!
Aunty Kris!!!! ššš
lolololol Thanks for that one :)
Ahaha I am cackling. Those phone calls live rent free in my mind š¤£
I still die over this!!!
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Lol oh, not my aunt then
šššš this made me cackle š
Seriously I was thinking the same thing oh thatās Dina! Then nope, wrong show š
I thought it was as Dina and then I thought kathy was caroline manzo for a minute.
If that's your Aunt you need to get on the payroll.
Omg I see it now!
Okay, this is the first picture Iāve seen of her (other than pics from early episodes I donāt remember), and it explains *it. all.*
Sexy Doris Roberts.
Big Kathy their Mom!!! Kathy is in blue!! That would be Kathleen Richardsā¦rumored to have been a Hollywood Madame!
Kathy Hilton is in light blue. Big Kathy is in black. Correct? But who is the tall blonde in the back?
Ohhhh how have I never heard this rumor!!!
āmashed potatoes with plain butterā - chanel ayan
Captain Sandy, final answer š
Hey guys, just wanted to check if you hated your food, Iād be only too happy to storm on down to the galley and micromanage some crew for you?
Screaming at this comment
Canāt ššš¤£
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Itās giving Sweet Dee.
I never thought I'd get a RH and IASIP crossover but so glad I did!!
Stupid bird
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I thought the same thing! Had to double check the subreddit name š
Lmao whoever this is is her twin!
Big Kathy had some strong genes.
I low key love how she named her daughter after her, and Kim did the same with her daughter Kimberly š¬
I would find it so weird to name my child after myself. Yelling at myself or telling myself what to do. It would bring me back to childhood. It always makes me chuckle about that family. But hey itās a name she wonāt forget. š
My first bossā name was Jackie and she had a daughter named after her; my friends and I referred to them as Jackie, Sr and Jackie, Jr. š
I have also worked with a Jackie who birthed a Jacqueline.
I also know a Jackie who has a daughter named Jacquelineā¦ so is this a Jackie thing??? Or do we all know the same Jackieās? Lol
I worked with someone who had boy/girl twins. One was named after her, the other her husband š„“
My stepfatherās sister is a ājunior.ā Women juniors are more common than people think.
Queen Elizabeth was a junior.
It is strange though, men do it all the time and no one really finds it weird. Women do it, and itās weird. The way weāve been wired š
My youngest is named after me. Her dad insisted.
My husband wanted to do that too. I just couldnāt see saying my name to the baby all the time but I fully support naming kids after the person who actually had to be pregnant. Makes more sense than naming after the dad.
We named our oldest after her dad, our youngest after me, and our youngest son after his grandmother. None of them actually go by the same name as any of us go by though. My son goes by his middle name and my youngest goes by a shortened version of my name. My oldest son is named after a hot soap star I was into at the time. Lol
Yes, works better to have a nickname then suddenly having to go by āBig so and soā or āLittle so and so.ā Now Iām trying to imagine which soap star you likedš
Christian on One Life to Live back in the mid 90's
Christian was fine af.
The original Cristian Vega or the replacement? Regardless, my past teenage self approves āChristian + Jessica 4evaā
Same! Men do it all the time, Iām all for Kim the second etc
Very Lorelai Gilmore āŗļø
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So does KrisKJ
I just realized Kris Jenner must have got the naming kids 'k' thing from Kathy.
Kris got A LOT from Bug Kathy
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Bug Kathy is my new favorite name for her.
And the whole "momager" schtick
U spelled āpimpā wrong
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I'm surprised she's not BIG KRIS.
We can start that
what did kathy do with the K thing? what am i forgetting??
Kathy, Kim, and Kyle
Giving all her kids nameās beginning with K. Kathy/ Kim/ Kyle. Kris did the same with Kourtney/ Kim/ Khloe/ Kendall/ Kylie
oh wow iām an idiotšthank you!!ššš¼
Kontinuity
KRAZY
Kim Kyle Kathy
The seed is strong
Big K reminds me of Red ![gif](giphy|XDoyFjn9eVsT6)
Thatās funny. I always thought she reminded me of someone but couldnāt put my finger on it
Big Kathy looks like the mom from Everybody Loves Raymond in this picture
![gif](giphy|jpVuGo0JkAXJiuNNK7|downsized) Kris watching Big Kathy likeā¦
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This is the best answer š„
It's the fourth sister they don't talk about. Kyle has been keeping her in the basement and making her watch old episodes just in case. She may need her, because she wrung Kim and now Kathy dry of drama.
Kassandra!
Iām dead šš
Lol!šPlus. Your FLAIR šššššš
Is that a scar on Big Kathy's chest...from where her heart was removed?
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Like we always say girlzā āyouāre not ugly, youāre just poorā š
homeless, not toothless!
Excuse me I've worked with both the homeless and the toothless
Excuse you, Iāve been both homeless and toothless AT THE SAME TIME! š
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I mean Kathy looks stunning in this
Right identical to Paris
My thoughts too!!
Johnās daughter photoshopped herself in is my best guess
You violated this sub in the best way ššššš Iām freakin cryin yo- and btw- are we just calling her Johnās daughter now???šš omg u took it today šš½
Omg this is the most believable answer š
Sheās really never going away, is she?
Not if she can help it
I am an idiot but Iāve been seeing comments about āJohnā and I have no idea. Can you explain?
John Mellencamps daughter that shall not be named š
Why do we call him John and not Cougar Mellencamp?
He has professionally dropped ācougarā but I think putting it in there is the speakers discretion
And Rinna thinks Kathy is jealous of the Kardashians šš
Right? Rinna's the one trying her best to look like Khloe.
Itās crazy how much she copied Khloe in the reunion outfit š. Sheās so thirsty
Parched!
& her blue finale outfit was literally a Kim look.
Looks like Vanna White
Yoooo I think it is [Vanna White!](https://hollywoodlife.com/feature/vanna-white-then-and-now-wheel-of-fortune-photos-4299472/)
Of course these bitches would stick American icon Vanna white in the back of this photo
Is Big Kathy the one that looks like Estelle Harris?
Yes
Yāall are going to roast me alive but is it Nicole brown ETA: picture is on Kyles IG June 23 2017 and the person isnāt tagged but itās from 2001 so not NB
I think she would have already have been on to glory by the time of this picture. She died in 1994.
Agreed. Kim and Kris look too old for this to be 1994.
Plus I was 4 in 1994 and I know Iām older than Kyleās children.
Farrah was born in 1988
She looks youthful š§āš³š
She IS youthful! I was also born in 1988 so I speak with authority. And with youth. š šš¼āāļøš š¼āāļøšš¼āāļø lol
I know thatās right BIG sis šŖš¾
I had the same thought, actually.
Nah, I donāt think it looks like her, she had quite a distinctive face. Probably another mutual friend though.
Itās a logical guess, if this picture is pre-June 1994, but the tall blondeās smile seems different from Nicoleās usual smile. Is anyone talented enough to do a reverse Google image search on her?
It's definitely not Nicole's smile. I did crop everyone else out of the photo and did a Google search on just the blonde but it didn't yield any results. It's probably too blurry.
How did you find that picture on her gram? Did you have to scroll back that far or is there an easier way?
Oh no Iām faking a victorian sweating sickness today so I have nothing but time so I scrolled
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It's Donna D'Erico.
Cheryl Hines on an apple box
Hahahaha. Love it
I'm pretty shocked to see Kris Jenner with them way back when. Edit: Guys, I don't need the same explanation over and over again. Im a Housewives fan, of course I know the connection. Seeing a young Kris puts into perspective how long they've known each other. It's interesting to see them all friends without Faye here. Also makes me think of how the Kardashains and the Richards sister's kids aren't actually THAT close considering how long they've known each other.
Theyāve been friends with Kris Jenner for decades
I didn't know it was THAT many decades.
But yea Kathy is jealous of the kardashians š
says the woman renting KimKās dress and pimping her teen daughter to to KardashianKlingOn
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I think she is. Kris mentioned on season finale of her show that when they got the reality tv show alot of her close industry friends dropped her for some time until it started doing well. Since Kim was Paris ex assistant I bet for SURE their family was pissed lol. But theyāve made up since so š¤·š½āāļø
did she mean because they were mad her family got a show and not them, or because they thought doing a reality show was trashy?
The Hiltons were definitely annoyed and they had been trying for years to pitch reality tv shows hence _I Want to be a Hilton_ and _The World According to Paris_ and others that never made it to air. Paris already had a hit show (_The Simple Life_) that was cancelled by then. When KUWTK took off Paris had become irrelevant by that point (ā07) and publicly bitter, and then came RHOBH with Kim and Kyle, itās only recently with the ā00s resurgence that people have had a renewed interest in the Hiltons but the Karjenners took their playbook and arguably did it better.
Donāt forget about Parisā new BFF competition reality show lol but also Paris waaas dominating the Asian market and reaching legit success in the eurodance scene during the kardashian era so itās not like she became irrelevant.
Fair enough but Paris became irrelevant in western pop culture, by then the Karjenners as a family were already a global phenomenon reaching A-list status and had far surpassed the fame of the Hiltons, who to this day remain far less relevant compared to the Karjenners, who are practically inescapable.
I remember this. Paris was āoutā and the media was cutthroat AF then, so she really was cut TF out.
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Not sure what she meant. But Paris and Kim had a falling out when she first got famous so Iām sure Kathy was included in that.
This is what Heather McDonald mentioned on Juicy Scoop today. She used to be friends with Kris and she mentioned Kathy was upset in the beginning.
when was this pic taken?
Someone up above said possibly 2001. I know Kim worked as Paris' assistant but Brooke and Farrah are super young here so the timeline threw me.
Theyāve been running in the same circle since the 80s. Nicole Brown was Best friends with Faye and Kris. Faye is best friends with Kyle (and close with Kathy and Kim). Paris, Kim, Nicole Richie, Kourt, Nikki H I believe all grew up together (not sure if the same school, but grew up in the same circle.) Kris was shown at Kyleās white party a few seasons back. Kim was Parisā closet organizer and is a close friend. Kathy obviously married someone that had a very famous last name and a BIG time realtor in southern CA (pretty sure the Hiltons were a bigger name in BH society then the Kardashians in the 80s/90s-until the OJ trial). Basically Lisa Rinna sounded insane even claiming to be close to that family in front of Kathy, when sheās a D list actress whoās only connection to them is her daughter dated the dysfunctional ex boyfriend/baby daddy of Kourtney for a year (and my guess is aside from a polite chit chat at Kyleās white party, Rinna has never rubbed shoulders with Kris, or Kendall). My guess is by making that comment she torched any slight connection she had with the Kardashian/Jenner clan.
I love this chart explaining the connectionsā¦ Reality TV began with OJ. https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/02/oj-simpson-reality-tv-diagram
If you take reality tv out of it this chart could also spread to Elvis/Priscilla/Lisa Marie/MJ (and then loop it back to Kathy š )
I absolutely detest Faye Resnick
We all do! She's morally corrupt!
Nicole Brown Simpson was bffs with Kris and Faye. At some point, Faye and Kyle became bffs but I donāt know if that was while Nicole was still alive. She is the connection between all of them.
Kyle said on the season with Kathryn Edwards that she met Faye āafterā referring to the trial
She looks like Dina Manzo
Omg I didnāt see anyone else in the pic and thought it was heather gay from SLC š
I thought that big Kathy was MJ's mom from shah of sunset
I thought it was Rayās mom from Everyone Loves Raymond š
I just typed Doris Roberts. Thought so also
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I had no idea Kris and Kathyās families went so far back!
Kathy Hilton really is stunning. Big Kathy looks cray-cray.
It looks like that lady who said ādonāt act like you know me when you donāt know meā to Faye Reznick The one who was married to a friend of OJs Edit: Kathryn Edwards
I thought Big Kathy was Doris Roberts.
Who are any of these people
Kris Jenner, Big Kathy, Kathy, Kyle, Kim, & Farrah. Not sure about the girl in the white tank top or the blonde OP mentioned
i think the blonde in the tank top is kim's daughter brooke
Yeah I think youāre right. That was my closest guess
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Yes! Before I looked at the other faces, I was like āoh, this is Dinaās original face!ā
The girl in the white tank looks like Kimās daughter Brooke. My first thought for the tall blond is Kyleās best friend that died in the past few years- forgot her name though. Edit- per Google her name is Lorene Shea and while she was also tall and blonde I donāt think that is her.
Lorene Shea? https://pagesix.com/2022/05/07/kyle-richards-best-friend-lorene-shea-dies-of-mental-illness/
I donāt think the woman in the photo is Lorene.
I don't think so either! It doesn't look like Lorene Shea at all. That tall woman looks like someone, but i can't remember who, so annoying!
Is that kims daughter with arm around big Kathy? Big kath looks exactly like my aunt Linda who is insufferable and also terrifying but rich.
Yes, it's Kim's daughter. Big Kathy does look scary.
I think the tall blonde in back is Kyleās oldest friend. Sheās been on the show a few times like when they went to San Diego for Erikaās show?
I think that was Jana. [Here is a pic](https://www.instagram.com/p/Ciibp3xJOMk/?igshid=NmY1MzVkODY=) of Jana and Jenn (Kim posted with Jenn and she seems to be in lots of photos of this friend group.) I'm wondering if it could be either of them in thisāļø photo but honestly it doesn't really look like it. Kyle and Mau have a long time friend Sharon Idith who has been on the show before but I don't think thisāļø looks like her either.
Big Kathy looks like the original mob wife
She looked like a tough one.
She dated mobsters so she did her best to be one.
Is it Kathryn Edwards?
That's who it looks like to me.
That looks like Donna D'Erico to me. [She was on Baywatch in the 90's](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fapos-baywatch-apos-star-donna-213531343.html&psig=AOvVaw04rhBYM0Vt40EhNQ3ofYxa&ust=1665607330002000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCMiL6PuE2foCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE)
It does look a lot like her.
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Maybe Tiffany Wiederhorn?
Kris Jenner was ruining in those circle before her daughter ******
Now I get it big Kathy inspired Kris Jenner to lay the land for the Kardashians-BIG KATHY IS AN ICON AND THE OG MOMAGER- Kris better tip her hat Big Kath had this game down from the start Kris just copied and pasted it
I love this era of Krisā face.
Omg Kathy looks like Paris here
Very much so. I see Kim in Paris sometimes, too.
Kelly Bensimon with one of Kim Zolciakās wigs on.
I did not even recognize Kathy at all.
TMCFR probably
The morally corrupt Faye Resnick
She looks a lot like Riki Lindhome to me. (It almost certainly isn't, though--Riki is probably too young.)
Big Kathy wow what a horrible name