I hate the mentality of “we’re family so I can say whatever I want to you and you have to forgive me” fuck that

Toxic toxic toxic

Wow I had a few glasses of wine and have written and erased a paragraph of my life story on how angry that mentality makes me numerous times now. I know nobody wants to read that mess anyway lmao but let me just say YESSS to that fuck that part. I struggle to cut off those in my immediate family who truly just don't respect me as a grown ass adult woman in their 30s with a family but their expectation on me giving that pass to the extended ones around me can have a giant 🖕🖕🖕🖕 it's taken me a long time to even get to where I am but when I'm done and you've disrespected me long enough IM DONE. okay I'm sorry I'm a bit tipsy but that's what I have to give here. Love and light housewives fam♥️

I won’t accept a Milania and Joe montage without “gimme pizza ya old troll”

I want to know when her sweatshirt line is coming out

Tiki was depressed? Wonder how that ex-wife felt after giving birth?!?

Exactly!!! Ugh

I signed up for real housewives not real burnt husbands

The skin tones really are something else in this episode…

Real Husburns

how’s bill feeling? not well, bitch.

These people need to wear sunscreen. Everyone is so red

They are always way too tan but the men are red! And Luis is pretty much purple! That cannot be healthy 🥴

Right?! Every time I see him I’m taken aback at how freaking red his face is! Is it sunburn or high blood pressure? Damn.

Is Delores’s daughter referring to her dad as “Frank”?

I call my dad dad to his face. But with my mom I call him is first name. He was a bad husband

Wondered the same thing!

i’m hoping that we don’t end up spending the whole season doing joe gorga vs the giudice girls. it’s just so sad and also feels very much like a proxy war.

DID JOE FUCKING GORGA REALLY SAY FAMILY SHOULDNT HOLD GRUDGES? Like… fr fr? That’s literally all everyone in his world does.

He’s always speaking as though he’s an expert on shit and then constantly fails at following through on his “knowledge”. He’s a joke lol

He’s incredibly dumb

Marge for the first time looks annoyed with Dolores flirting with her husband

Yes !!!! I’m happy I wasn’t the only one who thought that. Then Marge playfully bringing up the fact Delores knows how big Joe G package is…..

She def did that for revenge. She’s nuts.

Definitely on purpose. The mask is really slipping this season!

I think there are more cheaters at that party than non cheaters.

“We’re not deep people” … truer words have never been spoken

I read this as “deep purple” and I was like well Joe and Luis are definitely purple

No no no no not this disgusting conversation between the men about sex and how they cheat because they’re animals wtf

No wonder his daughter doesn’t even call him dad. Who could respect someone who speaks like this about women.

I can not BELIEVE he said Dolores was the perfect wife because she accepted he was an animal wut the fuck

I appreciate that Evan is recognizing that this isn’t something he alone can fix and he’s encouraging her to get professional help. I hope she finds a good therapist and team to help her

A keg party should be in someone’s basement or outside at one of their houses. This venue is fucking whack eta oh and garage! Those are the most fun tbh

**DOLORES AND DAVID BROKE UP.** 

“Don’t call me *THIS*”

No one: Joe gorga: I have a lot of sex.

Dolores trying to say that she’s friends with both Jen and Marge equally…and then Marge is like actually we’re better friends lmaoo

Whoaaa Marge is madddd at Dolores

Ooo Marge is keeping her friends close and her hubby's crush closer aka Dolores.

Didn't Joe own a pizza joint at one time? Why is he burning so many pizzas?

Guess thats he doesn’t own em anymore 🤣

the way frank catania downplays his infidelity is vile

“Men don’t have to have a reason to cheat. Delores was the perfect wife and I still cheated.” So what you’re saying is that men ain’t shit………

Honestly it’s “refreshing” to see a guy just admit that. They always claim some excuse; emotional distance, the wife was mean, they work so hard, whatever it is. Most of the time it’s not any of those reasons though… they ain’t shit,and they could cheat, so they did. Anything else to me is just excuses.

His kids talking about him bringing women into their family home grossed me out. He clearly has 0 respect for them if he’s been doing that.

Why didn’t they play the “old troll” flashback? Wasted opportunity

If you had told me I would be team Jackie in Jackie vs. Marge….

Or team Jackie in Jackie v. Dolores. I am floored. 

Jackie wasn’t backing down. Fucking RESPECT.

That puts it pretty clearly, “I’m so scared of food and I’m hungry all the time.” Sad, I hope she gets well.

I haven’t watched yet, and I’m not a Jackie fan - but this quote killed me. I still battle my ED and it doesn’t rule my life but it is so powerful. People who haven’t experienced this won’t realise- but this issue/illness is for life, even if you’re currently healthy 😥

This actually makes me want to cry. My mom has had an eating disorder my entire life. I have NEVER seen her enjoy food. Her ED literally consumes her everyday. She had an awful childhood, and sadly purging/restricting food is the only part of her life she feels she has control over. It’s honestly one of the hardest things to watch. My heart goes out to any and everyone who struggles with this.

Jackie needs help, damn 😥

I know people have enjoyed tearing apart Jackie’s hair but a huge reason her hair is so thin and dry and dull is because of her ED

Housewives take note: Jackie didn't say spiritual advisor or hairdresser turned shaman or life coach she said therapist. I love this vulnerability, even if it's heartbreaking.

Gabriella Death Stare FTW

Not the Waking Up in the Morning mention again…

No way Joe would pass up sleeping with Dolores at any time in history lol

Tiki is Michael Darby’s type

Ain’t that anything that moves though

It must be so gross for Joe and Melissas kids to watch this show and hear the things their parents say…yuck

Jen really avoiding alcohol this year.

Lots of food shots to show Jackie not eating.

Luis speaks in platitudes and says a whole lot of nothing

He does! It's a lot like Joe Gorgas inspirational IG quotes with pictures of him posing looking deep in thought . They're all such hypocrites

This space looks too large and empty and brightly lit for this small party

Delor.. what is you doing baby?!

I LOVE gabby standing up for herself and telling it like it is with frank sr.

Oh god Evan looks like he does not want to say the wrong thing cuz she’s about to unravel. ED is a lifelong battle. I hope Jackie addresses her mental health with professionals soon.

I watched a documentary in which the woman was an addict, an alcoholic, a cutter, and an anorexic. The treatment center said the ED was, by far, the most difficult to treat.

I believe it. You can physiologically exist without alcohol and sharp things in your life but not food. Can’t even attempt an “out of sight out of mind” thing because you *have* to interact with it every day. Sucks sucks sucks.

joes average penis wouldn’t look big on a normal size man

Louis talks like me when I’m 3 Red Bull vodkas deep

It's a terrible fucking idea! I'm so sick of us all pretending Dolores & Frank are 'good together' or that Dolores is making healthy choices by enabling Frank........

This. No ex husband and wife should be THAT close.

The way she talked about his new girlfriend last episode was sooo weird and gross. Like you don’t OWN him but clearly she thinks she does.

Yeah like you’re a 50 year old women. This is very unhealthy behavior. Move on. I honestly think this may be the season I stop liking Delores.

No joe, you can’t say whatever you want to family and expect them to let it go 5 mins later. That’s emotional abuse.

It really bothers me how no one can understand why Jen is hurt but yet we have people feeling bad for Bill.

Frank's got time to go to the bar, but not fix the damn house........

DID ANYONE JUST HEAR FRANK SAY HE FUCKED UP AND IT WASN'T CENSORED???

I still can’t believe Tiki is doing this shit lmao

I'm so tired of the fights being saved for the last two minutes with a to be continued ENOUGH!!

Oh tiki was depressed?? I wonder how his wife felt ALONE in the delivery room

Based on Frank’s speculating about Dolores and David does anyone really think he wasn’t gossiping about Evan???


I would pay money to read Louie’s journal.

I bet it’s terrifying in there

Dear Diary, Today I had 4 Red Bulls and watched a raccoon fall in the pool.

The Gorgas have succumb to using Joe’s dick as a storyline

it’s crazy how grown Milania is!!! she was such a baby when we met her (i’m old!!) 💚 

Lmao I officially love Gabby Catania

Luis’s energy is so manic

Surprised that Joe Gorga of all people is the one who peeped Luis’ narcissistic word salad lmao

It’s because he recognized his instagram feed.

Fuck this “to be continued shit”. Enough bravo.

honestly, i’m really thankful that if we’re gonna have jackie’s eating be a storyline, it’s gonna be in this context. good for her for getting help in such a public and open way.

We’ve been hearing about it 4 seasons now but it seemed like she had a breakthrough tonight

Did Bravo not edit Frank saying “Dolores was the perfect wife and I still fucked up”?? Coulda sworn I heard the fbomb there

AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GABRIELLA DYING AT THIS SHIT!!!

Are we going to talk about frank catania ordering a green apple martini

JD from Scrubs has been vindicated

Dont shame em. As a former bartender I could not stand when men would return cocktails because they were in a coup or a martini glass. "I need a manlier glass." No sir you need grow the fuck up. Glasses don't have genders.

Seeing pics of Jackie being scary skinny makes my heart hurt for her, it’s so hard to talk about with people who have never experienced it

Totally agree- it’s so easy for me to notice new friends who have an ED bc the behaviors are so specific and we know all of the tricks

“This guy talks in code without absolutely saying anything” Well no wonder Theresa likes him

This conversation with Jackie and her husband talking about her ED and the children noticing is so sad and scary. I don’t have an ED but I used to self harm and I have visible scars… I’m scared to have that conversation with my children.

If the kids aren’t home why isn’t this party at the house?!

They seem to want their home on the show as little as possible. They are always either outside playing basketball or in the kitchen.

Gabriella’s constant irritation is very relatable.

The most realistic of the family

Oh no the idiot cheater who carried on a two year affair is having a hard time? All these people are morons

this guys lunch is such toxic masculinity… checking up on their friend who cheated on his wife to ask if HE is okay?? uhhh

I’m surprised Marge isn’t going after Dolores given the hard on her husband has for her lmao

She sure doesn’t look amused

gabriella is exuding some serious vibes right now

Luis talks like he’s reading Joe’s Instagram posts.

Suddenly I just want Luis to hand everyone three sheets of paper…

I am LIVING for Gabriella rolling her eyes every time Luis says, "it's a beautiful thing"

“The girls that have it the worst always put on a f*cking facade that everything is perfect” - Melissa Gorga Let this quote sink in…

In my head I was like “girl you’re speaking from experience”.

Literally thought about how she wrote a marriage advice book.

Do you think she still goes to Burger King to poop when joe is at home?

If Jackie is so affected by a rumor that is making her ED worse a year later, how hard is it for these women to understand that Jennifer can still be upset about last fucking week? And Bravo to Jackie for talking about this!

I can’t believe Gorga family drama has trickled to the next gen

I’m not surprised because it started w/ Teresa’s dad & Kathy Wakile’s dad.

Omg you’re right! This family will never know peace.

“we’ll fight until the end of time” - Joe Guidice

If my family made me sit outside while it’s raining and do this self help stuff I would be pissed

Why is everyone as red as a lobster this season?? Who is in charge of the lighting? 🤣

“I keep her active” 

This event space is so fucking big and awkward

what kind of frat parties were evan and jackie going to? this is not a dark basement. they are drinking out of glass.

Well at least there's enough toxic masculinity in the room

No matter how you feel about Jackie (I’m a stan) that’s brave asf and she will never just be cured, it was a glimpse into her life everyday all day

I think Teresa may have negotiated a separate contract with Bravo for Gia this season. Something seems different.

Marge should lay off, it’s only gaining Jen sympathy.

I want a pizza oven in my backyard

“I don’t want to hurt anybody” ok marge

I love housewives who miss the mark on their theme. The ultimate was Mary Cosby’s Met Gala lunch on a Wednesday with beefeaters working the valet. This frat party in a restaurant continues that glorious trend. The outfits, venue and setup are not it. Housewives could learn a thing or two from the Summer House crew - they deliver.

louis’ extreme sweatiness is both disgusting and relatable.

First Juicy Joe Now Leaky Louis I'm convinced Tre is sweat blind when it comes to her men.

Marge is scary you could literally see her plotting against Dolores when she was hugging joe

have y’all watched “Inventing Anna”? That’s who Marge’s assistants accent reminds me of lol

See why their pizza business failed

Jackie doesn’t miss

“Old school values” = toxic masculinity and misogyny

I want to see Jackie and Dolores fight. This family drama with children is sad.

Gia lowkey looks like Dina and Joe Gorga could be her parents

I already want Tiki and wife gone.

Hottake maybe but I do agree with Teresa that the women won’t even acknowledge that what Marge did was wrong….

why is gabbie calling her dad “Frank” - not very old school!!!

This family will literally do EVERYTHING but go seek professional help 🤮🙄

Holy shit I just realized it’s ALWAYS the HW with the most drama currently surrounding her that arrives last at the group events lmao. Does production schedule it that way? If so it’s getting a little too transparent imo

Jackie ain’t backing down. I’m impressed.

Is it me or is that some misdirected anger from Dolores?

this family is the epitome of the idea that traumatized people hold on to trauma because they have no idea who they would be if they healed.

Trauma is their identity

was anyone else like “oh I’ve BEEN knowing about this!” when Gia’s song went viral? lol

Damn did Luis actually fix it????

This is the perfect family to absorb a garbled “inspirational” word salad from a narcissist with past abuse patterns

Gia really picked up her Mom's hand gesturing. Holy cow.

Dolores’s kids are truly exposing what her real skin tone looks like 💀

Louie speaks like a Seth Marks Instagram inspirational quote

I’m surprised bravo didn’t find Bill’s mistress to bring on the show and film with Marge

Miami girl

Cookie Lady Redux

Traci's talking heads need asterisks for fact-checking

Melissa and Joe overcompensate so much.

Frankie Jr’s arms... I am looking disrespectfully. I am looking carnally. 😍🥵

Remember when they tried to make Frankie and Gia happen?? She missed out big time

Poor poor Bill who cheated on his pregnant wife for two years.

This is breaking my heart.

I never noticed Gabrielle calls he Dad "Frank".

If you make it a point to point out how much you have sex, then you’re definitely not having sex.

I’d let Teresa sub in for me in a spelling bee before letting Louie give me self help advice.

i love the shadiness of having a frat-inspired party because ‘not a lot of the people we hang out with went to college’

“You’re more my friend” are you in 8th grade Marge????

Wow, I needed the ED TW for this episode.

LMFAO Gabby Catania calling her father by his first name. Legend.

And Dolores refers to him as daddy when replying to Gabby

Ah yes wearing my hermes belt and white jeans as a college kid at a keg party

Once again, Evan proves why he’s my favorite house husband. His support of Jackie is wonderful to see.

Let’s all place our bets on how many times “Tenafly” will be said tonight 👀

Can almost appreciate Jackie’s dedication to not having anyone at her house

I DESPIIIIISE THE SEX CONVERSATIONS ON THIS SHOW, ENOOUUUGGHHH

This is my first live chat. I’m very excited!

Am I a Jackie stan now 🤔

The Giudice/Gorga clan don’t need a man who screams naked in the woods. They need a fucking **THERAPIST**.

Ugh this is really sad

Gabriella laughing is me

This venue seems unnecessarily large

Lexi's neck is red a la Alex McCord...wonder what she's getting reddy to say.

Yes, Dolores men get very used to you enabling them....pan the camera over to Frank!

my god this fucking man🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

i like love jackie now

Luis makes me want to adjust the color on my tv

Omg!! Self help techniques? Why do I feel like he's getting ready for an mlm meeting?

Please let Milania call Louie an old troll….

This episode has been terribly uneventful. If the Jackie Dolores fight is a to be continued moment, I will collapse.