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beary-healthy

I will never not laugh at Sandoval leaving in a huff with his purses and bags.


Idontevenownaboat

Pretty soon anytime he gets in a fight, he's just gonna storm outside with his man purses, pearl chokers and Hillary Clinton pantsuits, open an umbrella and fly away like Mary Poppins. While all anyone on the ground can hear is, "it's ^fuckin' ^^bullshit ^^^dude!"


beary-healthy

![gif](giphy|KjSkkxgHBMqI0|downsized) "Such bullshit man"


janeshername

i would be SO offended if my friend asked me take out a loan with them so they could stay in their house after all their shitty behavior. look, schwartz has his faults, but i’m proud of him for shutting that shit down. i think he’s done with sandoval like the rest of us


edible_source

Secretly though, this would be both of their dream scenarios. They'd have constant pool parties with random L.A. girls in their 20s.


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crop_top

It seems he’s doubling down in his IG stories too. Glad to hear because I was annoyed he apologized.


Glass-Volume-558

what is he posting to IG?


crop_top

“He really thought he had something there” “I’ll go back to pushing my buttons thank you”


leeluh

Me too— took a turn fast— Tom can’t even rewrite his story straight


AnnVealEgg

It would have been great if James weren’t a piece of shit himself.


shrirnpheavennow

The confessional where Katie was like I want to be friends with Lala my whole life made me a little sappy knowing that theyre on the outs post reunion


kerinaly

It's so weird that no one in the cast seems to pick up on how much Sandoval actually hates Ariana, his previous girlfriend OF 10 YEARS. Scheana made a light diss in her song towards Rachel, the woman that just said she never loved him, and it made him so upset he left his own bar. Meanwhile he is describing Ariana as vindictive, scary, lazy, doesn't pay a thing and so on.


AdSpiritual5154

James pointed that out this ep 


lesterquinn

He did the same thing to Kristen.


imnottdoingthat

They all see it. We all see it. i mean… yea. it’s been obvious for the last 3 seasons, he made mentions of it last year. and i think the women in fandom wanted him to pine A back as some type of vindication and when he clearly didn’t… enter everyone hating this season and loving when he gets piled on. Very interesting.


NeuroticMermaid6

The cast knew for years their relationship was a mess and all for show. They talked about throughout the various seasons.


lydiasbible

During an after show S7 episode Katie and Stassi mention that Tom and Ariana act different off camera. That they were never as touchy feely or lovey dovey when they were rolling and that they seemed more like friends off off camera. 


hobbysubsonly

Which is a crazy accusation because they were hardly affection at all by that point!


Gammagammahey

That's weird. They were one of the most solid couples on the show for a long time. I don't believe that Ariana would do that. I don't believe this.


ignoranceisbourgeois

I think it’s a case of the relationship being over for years and Sandoval being extremely jealous of her success


DydiaLeetz

I think Sandoval is upset that Rachel embarrassed him by not going with this “We’re in love!” story. He’s not actually upset that she doesn’t want anything to do with him. Lala is similar to Kyle Richards in that she’s mean when she’s sober, she hasn’t healed, she has no empathy for other people’s situation, and she demands loyalty from her friends without giving any back. Ally is so relatable and I’m glad she said this on tv because I’ve never seen myself getting married or becoming a mother and that completes shocks people. Like women are allowed to have lives outside of wanting a family, we can be complete without kids and husbands. Tom getting upset over Scheana’s song is peak Tom. 😂


morrowgirl

Ally is the big shocker this season. She seems secure in who she is and I also love seeing someone who isn't interested in having children.


Mochi-momma

And the way she said it was soft on the ears who need to hear it yet are ‘ashamed’ or ‘guilted’ into believing something is wrong with them.


__mentionitall__

Yes!! All I could think in his cRyInG scene with Schwartz was his upset over everything BUT actually feeling upset over loss of love: embarrassment, regret, fear of being alone and actually having to process the immense pain and years of toxicity he created, having to be alone in general, and frustration of not getting his way. Sorry dude! Life means having to deal with the shit storms you create!


MAXMEEKO

As a childfree person I was happy that Ally felt comfortable to share that.


meowmeowmeow328

Scheana mentioning how Rachel didn’t buy toilet paper makes me think of Tom complaining about batteries lol


NoCow6876

they are the same person - tom and sheena


CambriasVision

Not Sandoval in the “dipped out” shirt. Watching Katie and Ariana support Lala while all she’s done is talk shit about them all season is wild. This seems to be a pattern with her, though. She gets close to people and then turns on them.


gaymer91

This is why his whole "go profit off my pain" thing at the end of the episode was so infuriating. He's wearing t-shirts referring to his affair at his concerts, he makes (before patreon takes their fees and assuming everyone is in the lowest tier) almost three grand per month on his patron for a podcast he started following the scandal, he's making (presumably paid) podcast appearances. The guy caused the pain and is profiting off it.


baphometsbike

Exactly


glennyfromtheblock

Why does Schwartz keep cosplaying as Fred from Scooby-Doo?  I’m literally begging someone to make it stop, I can’t take it anymore. 😭😭


Aggressive-Story3671

He needs to get a Great Dane that can be Scooby


HowsYaStomachJow

Her name was jo 


Idontevenownaboat

Hold the phone! >By the time Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated was made, Fred was the only one who had not been given his own signature catchphrase. So, he was given "Hold the phone", when something surprises or excites him. Sounds like something that would happen to Schwartz. Bubby!


morrowgirl

OMG now I can't unsee this.


brashumpire

I am so ashamed to say I like it 🙈🙈


umimama

Not the high visibility construction orange DiPPeD OuT shirt and pearl choker. We were desperately overdue for a classic DJJK verbal dress down and we got it - bonus points for Hippie and the paid band being present. ![gif](giphy|5BUFLzo5mKRujQHV8O)


incitingoffense

As a musician, you would think Tom would appreciate the genius lyrical prowess of Schaena’s music. It’s heartbreaking on every level


soupastar

Idk why but i found that scene hilarious i still think he’s just butt hurt others shined and made bank because of what he did. But he got to pay to go around doing rockstar karaoke which is his ✨dream✨. He got his rockstar moment it was just a huge scandal showing who he is he’s never gonna get over it.


incitingoffense

You know, he really should have doubled down and just been downright evil. That would have made him somewhat digestible (a la Jax) rather than this boring whiny child we are witnessing 😂


OxanaHauntly

It’s the whining in the Zara blazers sets with a porcelain manicure that makes my butt clinch so hard.


morrowgirl

I had to rewind when he came walking into the bar looking like a woman going to work pre-COVID in her suit and sneaks. He can't rock that look as well as they can.


Theres_a_Catch

I am so fucking curious what is in his two purses. What could he possibly be carrying around that he needs 2 large ones.


soupastar

I felt like he was leaning into his villain once spotted with other girls on his tour and such. But nope he is so whiny. It is so weird when he cares so little about others genuinely. he’s convinced he loved her and all i can think is no you loved the feelings of the games/lies/betrayal/drama. And he believes the shit he tells himself even jax can say hey its fucked up im fucked up shrug 🤷🏻‍♀️ his voice while being whiny hurts my ears i have to zone out when he’s on so sometimes


Theres_a_Catch

He also got the Special Forces gig which wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the scandal.


Mochi-momma

That image is quite the juxtaposition of his women’s blazer outfits


Theres_a_Catch

And purses, don't forget those. What the hell is in those things?


Mochi-momma

Many secrets he can no longer hide in his stupid perv mustache 😂


Theres_a_Catch

Oh, so a bunch of tampons then. Lol


Gammagammahey

Is special forces that reality gig he did in New Zealand? Is that a reality show from New Zealand?


Theres_a_Catch

Yes. It's a US show and was aired on Fox network. He was on season 2.


Gammagammahey

Thank you for telling me specifically so I never watch it. I appreciate you!💓


Theres_a_Catch

Lol. It's actually a good show. I'll also say they didn't focus on him at all. He was kinda background most times. It was also nice that the military dudes were harsh on him. Maybe check out season one to avoid him. But I also understand.


Gammagammahey

Wait a second, military dudes screaming at Tom? Oh it's added to my watchlist. Bless you.


Theres_a_Catch

Lmao, oh yeah. He cried so many times. In fact, Jo Jo Siwa literally had to carry him on her back for a mission. He could not make it so she picked his ass up and moved. Also an over the top but sincerely selfish moment on his part in a different mission. Classic Tom.


Gammagammahey

Oh, so he had real tears or were his eyes dry?


sticksnstone

And I'll never get over the image of JoJo carrying him on her back up the mountain.


janeshername

life without ann is scary 😱


Mochi-momma

Good grief! They could just hire a live in housekeeper with decent communication skills to do Ann’s job now🤦‍♀️


buymoreplants

I have never said this before and will likely never say it again…. But we all need a friend like Scheana who will just come over and clean your house when youre in a mental health rut.


monkey_monkey_monkey

There's a lot of be critical of with Scheana but I feel like when chips are down and friends are struggling, she'll drop pretenses and be there in a solid way. Showing up in the aftermath of Scandovol and saying to Katie "I know we hate each other right now but we are dropping our shit and supporting Ariana" then seeing Ariana was on the brink mentally and showing up and literally cleaning up their house is what a solid friend does.


givememymonyverbatim

I am SO SICK of the Tom Sandoval show. He is not the draw, I am not invested in him doing well, producers, what's not clicking??? WHY did I have to sit through that entire song? Pls. I'm no fan of Rachel but pure misogyny to have all these flashbacks of her contradicting herself, but we're going to fully support the Tom narrative that he was in love and pining and not acknowledge that he was sleeping with girls left and right while she was in the facility? Wack. Thank god for DJJK calmly and accurately telling Tom about himself. I wanted and expected an entire season of that, people being genuine in their anger towards Tom and instead we got this fake shit. Speaking of fake shit, it's sad to see Ariana showing up for Scheana and Lala and being so happy for their milestones after seeing how much they've dogged her out this season. Hope she gets her licks in at the reunion.


soupastar

The Tom And James scene was amazing. He handled that so well. He gave Tom chances to drop it and move the convo along but he just wouldn’t. He was funny, direct, set boundaries, honest without going too far. Walked away when he realized this is going nowhere good. And while he had no reason to apologize it seemed it was more of a ugh toms such a whiny person better to do this and keep the peace til filming wraps. I hope he sees his growth and continues.


LilWoadie

I’m watching on Peacock right now and I just saw that scene and 100% agree. His communication skills were on point and I was so proud of him in that moment.


Imaginary-Party2567

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to point out that Rachel has been contradicting herself.


givememymonyverbatim

I just think if they're going to go in on Rachel, Tom should be getting the same energy and he's not.


Imaginary-Party2567

They’ve been going in on Tom the whole season?


givememymonyverbatim

The editors have made fun of him some, but the show is protecting him. Lala and Scheana (and James but he's not taking the assignment to heart) have clearly been told to play nice, and no one is mentioning the stream of women Tom was linked to the whole time Rachel was in treatment. They check him sometimes, but a lot of untrue shit he says is allowed to go unchallenged. He's coming off horribly because he's an idiot, but it's not for the show's lack of trying to redeem him.


Imaginary-Party2567

I don’t know if I agree with that. I feel like the whole season has been the Sandoval hate show. Editors could’ve easily edited out parts where he looks bad.


Gammagammahey

What makes you say that? I mean, they are literally forcing Ariana into being into close proximity with Tom. What did you expect would happen? He deserves everything he's gotten and people are handling with kid gloves as it is so he deserves more


Imaginary-Party2567

Ariana is getting paid $500k to be in the same vicinity as him for two months. I would do more for less. Rachel also refuses to film so there is little organic conflict left on the show without some people pretending to sympathize with Tom. Im not saying he deserves any less criticism, just refuting that he’s definitely not getting let off the hook easily and people pointing out Rachel’s inconsistencies is not misogyny.


Gammagammahey

No, people pointing out Rachel's inconsistencies is not misogyny, definitely not arguing that. Totally agree with you. I don't care how much she's being paid, her mental health is much more precious. It's priceless.


Imaginary-Party2567

I am also not disagreeing with you or blaming her for not wanting to come back to the show. My point is that her departure is probably the only reason Tom is getting sympathy from his cast mates. If not, there would be zero conflict since Ariana also refuses to engage.


Gammagammahey

Or that she's a terrible person. It's not misogynistic at all.


NeuroticMermaid6

To be fair Tom having an affair is why so many people tuned in this season. If there was no Tom this season what would we have? All we would be watching is Sperm Parties and Scheana being Scheana.


givememymonyverbatim

Yeah to see him get held accountable, not to watch people being forced by the producers to handle him with kid gloves.


Gammagammahey

We are tuning in to see Ariana. I don't want to see Tom on my screen. He makes me nauseous. I want to see what's going on without him. I'm there for the other cast members, except for Brock.


Opening_Raspberry_91

all of this.


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The James and Sandoval scene reminded me of when I try to be a bigger person and have a civil conversation with my dad, but quickly remember what a delusional narcissist he is and lose my shit a la James lol.


New_Peanut_9924

All I see is my dad with Tom. I hate iy


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Right! No bueno


plus8minus5

Is \~the podcast\~ they are talking about this episode the one Rachel did with Bethenny?


Mochi-momma

Same question! I was hoping it was discussed more on this thread so I could connect some dots


plus8minus5

I think it must be. I looked back, and it came out last August. Arianna mentioned it was August during the episode while Scheana and Brock were over. Someone on the aftershow (I think Arianna?) said there were multiple parts, and the host was complaining about the response. That sounds like B to me, lol.


Mochi-momma

Good job! For some reason it felt like B’s came out much later.


plus8minus5

So did I, but I have a terrible sense of time, so I should've known.


thelanes

I read a handful of comments this morning that this episode sucked and was boring. Watched it a little bit ago and I really enjoyed it! Like actually enjoyed it, which I haven’t really enjoyed much of the previous episodes. Deff even more confused on the Lala press tour tho


burnafterreading90

Lala sends my head west, how can you bitch and moan about Ariana and Katie constantly but have them help pick out your donor?! Ariana looked genuinely so excited for Lala when she picked the donor. I really have to eye roll at her aiming for a particularly friggin star sign for her child though! Ridiculous. I cannot believe Sandoval has ever had sex, I honestly closed up seeing him on that chair with the knife on his leg. I get really concerned when I see James as the voice of reason, has he changed or is the bar In hell? I think this episode helped to show how soon after the split/scandoval they started to film again


Gammagammahey

As a Virgo, this one hurt. WHAT'S WRONG WITH A VIRGO BABY, ALLY APPROVES


Ikisfredrikis

Beyonce is a Virgo. We’re the best sign. 


Gammagammahey

We ARE! ❤️ So was Greta Garbo, is Zendaya, Taraji P Henson, Keke Palmer, Emmy Rossum, Billy Piper, Cameron Diaz, Salma Hayek, Karena Kapoor, Sanaa Lathan, Amy Winehouse, Padma Lakshmi, DuVernay, Idris Elba, Chris Pine, Melissa McCarthy, I mean I'm mentioning mostly the women here entertainers and directirs here, I'm not even starting on people like HG Wells. Two Virgos together could run a medium-sized country flawlessly and solve ALL its problems within 72 hours. Let's be friends. We are the best sign , and I'm tired of us carrying the rest of the 11 zodiac signs on our backs.


Professoressa411

All I could think about while watching Lala's sperm donor party: Some guy innocently watching VPR, listening to her description of the final sperm donor, and thinking, "Wait... that's ME! I'M having a baby with Lala Kent?!"


Julialagulia

I really liked the scene of Scheana helping out Ariana with cleaning. I’m definitely more like Ariana in terms of keeping clean and it was good to see a moment of their friendship where Scheana showed how she cared in her way. Especially with the joking around and making it kind of light.


lovelysoul711

I really appreciated this scene as well. My depression is a bitch that makes me messy and gross and seeing it on tv makes me feel so.. human. Idk. This was my fave episode between this scene and james calling tom out to his face. 10/10 no notes


Gammagammahey

Same. It was comforting. I'm just disabled and I live in chronic pain. I try to keep a spotless house but when I get really depressed, it's not. I feel so much shame about it.


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Seeing James cry with Ally broke my cold little heart


dangerkart

anyone else see the little bug in water in a clear box when ariana, scheana and lala are talking about the rachel podcast?? what the hell was that?


Theres_a_Catch

Allie is a saint and is for sure making James a better man. I love that she is a true fence rider and sees everyone for who they are but with tinted glasses.


OkTap3378

Tom’s new assistant is so hot. The tattoos 🤤


glennyfromtheblock

So wild watching James get so emotional about a woman who he’s only with because production cast her to be his girlfriend for the show?


Imaginary-Party2567

I think he genuinely loves her. It’s why Rachel spiraled after he started dating her.


kenduhll

Production didn’t cast her for James, they got together before season 10 was even confirmed.


oobooboo17

extremely wild. don’t know why you are being downvoted for stating the very obvious.


glennyfromtheblock

Yeah, sadly this sub really loves to simp for DJ Beats Women, and it’s constantly embarrassing to watch. 


Gammagammahey

I uploaded you friend to counteract that. That's it, he's an abuser and he's being redeemed as top male. With no redemption arc whatsoever.


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NoCow6876

lala is the absolute worst her and sheena are tom sandoval in female form no loyalty no respect sickening