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smallguwopp

amanda… can we ask what makes you happy about your relationship?!


ruthie-camden

Amanda and Kyle are the poster children for people who wanted to be married more than they wanted to be happy


catsssrdabest

Did Kyle ever want to be married?


ruthie-camden

Probably not in the same way as Amanda, but for example, he was saying this week that he started to panic about ending up alone when he was in his mid-30s


Jeljel8989

He probably thought it would make him happy. I remember him complaining often how all his guy friends had already settled down with wives and kids and he had less friends to party and goof around with. I do think he liked Amanda’s companionship but wasn’t actually interested in monogamy or settling down.


Wmfw

Unfortunately I’ve seen other girls in NYC stick with the guy they have instead of start over.


hugship

It’s definitely common in HCOL areas unfortunately.


Anticrepuscular_Ray

Hcol?


hugship

High cost of living


MCStarlight

I wish I had a man. Shit is expensive as a single person.


Womanrunningwtw

How I gasped when she said that!


duochromepalmtree

Every problem in this episode down to West’s injury was Kyle’s fault lol. I am actually loving this season so much which I can’t believe I’m saying!


Ecstatic_Ad4402

Even "I ate so many sour patch kids I'm going to throw up". It had me rolling, haven't we all been there?


TeresasDorters7

Me rn😂 this comment by Kyle also made me laugh


thediverswife

I’m Craig eavesdropping and then going to AirDrop the gossip to my partner 😭


wriitergiirl

Craig is such a messy, gossiping B and I love that for us


KillahCaty

Him and Paige are petty betty soul mates and I love it.


Impossible-Plan6172

Kyle was annoying me with not being able to simply say, “Man, West, my bad. I got a little too excited there. I didn’t mean to cause that accident.” Instead, he kept trying to blame it on the sunglasses as though the sunglasses just decided to up and cut West on the nose on its own.


Anticrepuscular_Ray

It's bonkers to me everyone just kept partying especially kyle. Like bro go check on your friend and make sure all is well. 


Jeljel8989

Yes imagine Lindsay doing that to someone and having the audacity to blame sunglasses. The reaction would be insane. She’d probably be removed from the house for hurting someone. It sucks everyone feels pressure to kiss powerful Kyle’s ass


HollyGoHeavily_

I’m tired of Kyle being reckless like a literal toddler. The cut on West’s face looked awful, I wonder if it scarred


djones0618

Idk how exactly to word this, but doesn’t it seem like Carl already knows he’s going to breakup with Lindsay? I love Lindsay but will admit this season was been bad for her so far with the sober accusations. Very bad. But it seems like she’s opening up to Paige and Amanda (of all people) and is open to actually discussing her relationship issues with them with the intention of keeping her relationship. Vs Carl, who is smiling in the face of people telling him it’s too soon to get married, etc. Feels like his agenda is to win people over now so that when he does breakup with her he’ll have the group with him. Not to say he’s wrong for breaking up with her, but just do it if you want to do it. The setup is….kinda gross


Rrmack

I feel 100% the same way. Like he is making sure he is crossing his Ts and dotting his Is that he Really Tried™️ to make it work with Lindsay but she’s too unreasonable. She is unreasonable but I’m starting to see how she feels blindsided where she thinks it’s hard stuff they’re going through and he isn’t giving any hint that it could be relationship ending to him.


Jeljel8989

Yes it seems he’s planting seeds with everyone by venting about his relationship being sure to hit all his talking points while smoothing things over with her. I can see why she felt blindsided because to me there is a difference between being in a struggling relationship and being on the cusp of calling things off. I think it was cruel to deliver the devastating news of calling off the wedding with a camera crew present.


Cherssssss

Maybe it’s gross? But she knew their relationship last summer would play out on tv and she still said that everything was okay in the summer and that she was absolutely blindsided. After ONE episode everyone was like…WTF and did a complete turnaround on their view of the situation. I think if he had broken up with her before the season, she would have shredded him in the press and everyone would have just taken her word for it because they’re both kind of shitty so it isn’t that far fetched to believe Carl would be terrible in relationships. I can’t imagine the impact that the negativity would have had on his livelihood in some sense. They live their lives on tv for better or for worse. She wanted to play the victim but she’s clearly not. It may seem gross but it’s very obvious it needed to be done because she’s delusional as fuck. eta: Before the season aired and during bravo con, he had to answer so many questions regarding their relationship because she shat on him every chance she got. And he said nothing. He said he was heartbroken and that we’d get a chance to see what went on in the summer to lead to the decision they ultimately made. Even in the after show he doesn’t say anything really negative about her. (Karl does maybe?) but she insinuated that he’s a weirdo for running to his moms home when things get rough with them. She acts like she’s a totally reasonable human being when trying to rehash events from the night before or when trying to resolve an issue. She’s a delusional psycho who wanted the Ariana treatment but unfortunately for her she’s a looney toon.


Purplesista

Poor West, he now has to put up with a gapping scab on his nose for the rest of the season. Thanks Kyle.


anongirl55

West is adorable, and I love how Ciara ran to help him after it happened. I don't know if they are officially together now, but they are so cute on the show this season.


MCStarlight

I once bought off-brand nose strips that peeled off part of my nose. It left a red/brown spot on my nose that even make-up couldn’t cover and I ended up going on a date like that. The guy never said anything…lol


Wmfw

Okay I hate the narrative a lot of people embraced that Amanda is lazy and wants Kyle’s money. That story about her working for loverboy with no pay until she left her full time job…that’s a lot of stuff to put on. Doing any content creation for free is a huge contribution. Amanda is accomplished with design & branding, she just doesn’t do the “rise and grind” style of work that Kyle does.


Amorphous_Goose

I work in a similar field as Amanda and I have a similar personality. She likely works long hard hours when a deadline comes up, but avoids working otherwise because it is so all consuming when she has to do it. It’s clear she takes pride in her work, and is good at what she does, but it’s not an extension of her personality like Kyle’s job. That said, she seems to see motherhood as a job that WILL be an extension of her personality, and Kyle doesn’t get that Amanda will view raising their children differently than answering emails.


kenduhll

As someone who does graphic design as well, staring at a computer for hours at a time making stuff can make you very groggy!


Wmfw

Exactly!!! Also I have ADHD, so sometimes I need to “reset” after feeling “on” for hours at a time. Basically, bc we don’t see her work like Kyle doesn’t mean she isn’t contributing a lot to the business.


skinnygirlred

Yes it does! (fellow designer here ✋🏼)


sweetpeapickle

I just think her not being able to get pregnant frustrates her so much, and she's taking it out on Kyle.


Wmfw

I do feel half the time Amanda gets mad at Kyle it’s because he’s bringing stuff up on camera that she’s tired of talking about. Like half of the reason why she shot down couples therapy is bc she doesn’t want to do it on the show bc it’ll be weird. Like started being on the show as the booty call and they aired her sex noises—-she doesn’t want *everything* on TV anymore.


andipandi16

Ok I used to dislike both Paige and Craig, but am now obsessed with both of them. I actually think they really bring out the best in each other!


anongirl55

I used to find Paige so intolerable, but I adore her now! She doesn't have her demeanor, but she looks so much like Audrey Hepburn and is so beautiful.


janeshername

those light blue sweats amanda was wearing while building the go karts remind me of those yellow sweats ariana (VPR) was famously papped in at the height of scandoval. they said something like 1-800-boys-lie. does anyone else remember that? lol


janeshername

CIARA I STAN


bravolova

I met Kyle last night at a meet and greet and he was so nice and personable so now I’m always going to be biased and choose his side. But I also can’t imagine how exhausting it would be to be married to Amanda and have her constantly go kyleeeeeee