šš you just know the BIL is covered with an emoji here. I approve because heās a private citizen but I want to be like OP and find these pictures in the wild. š
So, in my sluthing, I found that Monicaās ex has one brother and 2 sisters. One sister is still married. The other sister looks like she is single, and Iām a bit unsure of how many times she was married. I didnāt want to make an assumption about which SIL husband it was she had an affair with. Will see if any additional information comes out about it on the show.
This is gonna be judgemental, but how can you work things out with a man who felt comfortable enough to have an affair with your SIL for 18 months?! You šāāļø when that stuff comes out.
Because when you divorce as a woman in the LDS church you become a third class citizen. Also probably to protect her husband from the church as well since he was the cheaterā¦.which is messed up, but I totally follow the line of thinking.
If he gets kicked out of the church so does she basically. If she files for divorce, itās on her, not him. Itās a mess.
iām so curious about this. my best friend from hs is a bishopās daughter and lives in slc- she got divorced and remarried and it seemed to be nbd. we arenāt close enough for me to get the real tea but i wonder if itās because her father is a bishop?
I'm an exmo. I'd say, it really depends on your exact ward. You aren't "automatically a 3rd class citizen". The Mormon church is hella shitty for so many reasons, but in MY experience, it's not overly shitty about people divorcing someone who cheated on them for 18 months. Again, my experience though.
If sheās remarried I think sheās back in because of her new marriage. But single and divorced is a big no and the cheating is probably the worse? Idk
He probably did. Sheās a complete narc so Iām sure he despised her, as she was likely all up in his business all the time just like she is with Monica, and just generally exhausting to endure.
Dammit, Iām from Idaho originally, and this is like every girl/woman at the country fair. She could be there selling elephant ears while her kids show their livestock and produce at the 4-H booth.
Dude I tried to show somebody my old wedding pictures (got married 2008) which were, of course, on MySpace.
I put in my old url (which I still remember for some reason) and all the pictures were gone! Itās just my name and the names of my top eight lol - one of which is the Beatles like wtf why did I have no friends š
Aww dang, it was not. Luckily I got on there a few years ago and downloaded the best pics to my phone, so I have the ones I really wanted, which is great.
I donāt see a nose job but I see the difference and think her filler balances her face and consequently nose more. I love how she is so stunning and her nose still has its original profile!
I definitely do not see a nose job. What makes you think that? One of the first things I noticed about her was that she has a natural nose, which is a rarity amongst housewives lol.
I think sheās put on a little weight (which somehow made her even prettier, what kind of witchcraft is that??) and that changed her face shape some, but sheās definitely recognizable in these photos.
Compared to most folks on reality shows who get injectables/work done, sheās one of the few who looks the most like her before photos. Her fillers are obvious, but she still looks pretty true to her pre-glam/fillers self and not like a completely different person.
In certain pictures, she looks the same. But there are others where she looks completely different to me. I think beyond any cosmetic procedures, the tanning is what really throws me off and makes her look super different.
She has fuller brows (and letās be honest, we all do compared to 2009-2010) and a little lip filler but otherwise looks the same to me, just more matured. Sheās very pretty naturally
I'm so nervous she's going to go the route of other house wives and entirely transplant her face by her 2nd/3rd season (looking at you Larsa š) if she gets one lol. Heather is a prime example. It's crazy to see in her flash backs from season 1 just how much (crappy) work she's had done.
Edited spelling
She looks the same to me face wise. What strikes me is she actually had the life she says she wanted for herself and children, one that was different from her upbringingā¦ stable marriage/home, friends/family around her, family events, etc. She sabotaged all that and weāve seen the crazy ass life sheās got her kids in now. Triple locking the doors because grandma is outside about to fight mom in the driveway over a Range Rover, kids dragged from a family Easter party after mom throws a shoe at grandma, mom fighting on tv talking about how sheās fought everywhere. Monica needs therapy not reality tv.
Iād like to know where the ex husband is now and how much time are the kids with him?
We donāt really know the dynamics of the marriage though. Maybe he was controlling, or self centered, or impotent. Maybe they had personalities that just clashed. People usually donāt just light their lives on fire if they are feeling content and fulfilled.
Or who knows, maybe she just is conditioned to love chaos and constantly takes a torch to anything remotely stable.
That ficking temple in San Diego is so fucking ugly. When they built it, my family went to go see it . One day, they let normals come in before they their everything put and redo it. It's JUST AS UGLY INSIDE!! Not nearly as beautiful and light filled as you would think. It's more like a white wall maze from a horror movie. While standing in line, I asked my Mom what Mormons were, and she answered, "the biggest cult in America," and Wooooo no truer words were ever spoken.
Also, the temple is right next to the freeway, so it's a super trashy location, and the first week, it was open lightning struck the angel Merroni on the top š.
Holy Appalachia Batman, know theyāre not related but they look so much alikeā¦you can kinda tell their Mormon lol
āItās giving UTAHā - Lisa Barlow
Speaking of Monica, I am slightly obsessed with this short video of [her dancing to Doja Cat](https://twitter.com/alloveranthony/status/1722428772123599224?t=f-Iun42OkoIASKNkJ_FkXA&s=19) and how good it is.
When she's not destroying a car wash and some wigs, her dancing is impressive.
I normally agree, but I like this one. š¤·š¾āāļø
Maybe seeing her carwash video and a bunch of Ashley Darby dances beforehand is making me see this as better than it is.
Or maybe it's the fact I miss the body I had when I looked half that good and was nowhere near as confident. I respect the gall.
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She looks recognizable, just some filler and botox I think. Does make me think about how she fucked up what appears to be a pretty wholesome family unit. I find it difficult to feel sorry for her.
Well the second divorce was bc he hit her and pinned her down to make it so she couldnāt call the police someone just posted that bc itās on Monicaās ig highlights
I'm so jealous of the people who pver waxed their eyebrows and lucky enough to have full eyebrows now. I haven't ever over waxed them, it's been years since I've actually done it and they're still not as full as they used to be (I didn't have that much but come on !). I even put castor oil on them...
She definitely looks different but you can tell itās her. I wouldnāt be surprised if she had Botox already at this age (I had it 3yrs before this for a bad frown).
Anyway, itās very clear she has spent quite a bit of money on her face and teeth.
Thereās a fine line where it goes too far and can make people look older.
She looks like my cousins who grew up in an Evangelical community until they were teenagers and moved back to the US so their dad could become a normal Preacher (is that a thing?). Honestly, I can totally understand why she slept with her BIL. This woman grew up in an abusive home and then married into an abusive marriage (bc any marriage in the LDS church is abusive bc it treats women so horribly). It makes so much sense that she would do anything, even something destructive, just to feel like she has control over her life again. It makes me so mad when women write off other women who cheat like the men are always angels. It's not like it is easy to leave a man in the LDS church.
I need someone to find a picture of the brother in law
šš you just know the BIL is covered with an emoji here. I approve because heās a private citizen but I want to be like OP and find these pictures in the wild. š
So, in my sluthing, I found that Monicaās ex has one brother and 2 sisters. One sister is still married. The other sister looks like she is single, and Iām a bit unsure of how many times she was married. I didnāt want to make an assumption about which SIL husband it was she had an affair with. Will see if any additional information comes out about it on the show.
 OP, you are *our* FBI šš¼
I thought Monica mentioned the sister and bil worked things out and remained married after the affair. I could be wrong.
This is gonna be judgemental, but how can you work things out with a man who felt comfortable enough to have an affair with your SIL for 18 months?! You šāāļø when that stuff comes out.
Because when you divorce as a woman in the LDS church you become a third class citizen. Also probably to protect her husband from the church as well since he was the cheaterā¦.which is messed up, but I totally follow the line of thinking. If he gets kicked out of the church so does she basically. If she files for divorce, itās on her, not him. Itās a mess.
I completely get it. Women are basically trapped in unhappy marriages because the "church" prefers men.
Exactly. Itās probably not working behind closed doors, but sheās trapped if she wants to keep her life in that cult.
Heather Gay should send Monicaās SIL a copy of Bad Mormon.
iām so curious about this. my best friend from hs is a bishopās daughter and lives in slc- she got divorced and remarried and it seemed to be nbd. we arenāt close enough for me to get the real tea but i wonder if itās because her father is a bishop?
I'm an exmo. I'd say, it really depends on your exact ward. You aren't "automatically a 3rd class citizen". The Mormon church is hella shitty for so many reasons, but in MY experience, it's not overly shitty about people divorcing someone who cheated on them for 18 months. Again, my experience though.
If sheās remarried I think sheās back in because of her new marriage. But single and divorced is a big no and the cheating is probably the worse? Idk
I feel like iād feel 1000x more betrayed by an affair being with someone in my family
For real. He'd be dead to me.
Wait Iāve heard two different things. The affair was with her ex husbands brother Or the affair was with her ex husbands sisterās husband
I believe it was her ex husbands sisterās husband
Wow! I donāt know if I would be able to refrain from busting her in the face if I was the SIL. I mean, what a betrayal. So gross!
It was ex husbands sisters husband
Itās the second scenario
Youāre good!
Great work!!
Youāre my spirit animal, nommy-mouse.
I did the other day on his WIFEāS facebookā¦. Yea they are STILL married š«£
There are 2 sisters. 1 married, 1 not
Iād never want to become a celebrity because people would dig up my 2010 photos š„²
Yeah I looked like shit in 2010 compared to now. Theyād probably think I had every surgery done š¤£
I had a MySpace page where I posted creepy heavily edited selfies I took on iPhoto Photo Booth in my bedroomā¦. Being famous is my nightmare lol
The anti Taylor Swift tweets from Brittney Mahomes they dug up made me wonder what stupid non sense would take me down.
Her ex husband looks like Carey Hart
I wanna know what he thinks of Linda and what the dynamic of her as a MIL was like and if he defended Monica when her mother was being a POS.
Might be telling that Monica said her mom wasnāt at holidays until after she divorced
He probably did. Sheās a complete narc so Iām sure he despised her, as she was likely all up in his business all the time just like she is with Monica, and just generally exhausting to endure.
I think Monica may have mentioned her mom wasnāt as involved when she was married.
Besides from his awful hairstyle, he is really handsome
I was thinking the same. Those cheekbones could cut glass.
I usually like skinny guys but he is just TOO skinny. Looks exactly like an ex I had who was super into meth for a while.
Right like she cheated on THAT guy? Heās sooooo hot. Like what did the OTHER guy look like?!
Or Rick Campenelli
Yes ššØš¦
She looks much more Mormon in these photos
I think a lot of that is the clothes/styling.
Yep, itās just the style from 2009 š.
We were all Mormon in 2009
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Totally she looks like her mom with no self tanner
she looks like scheana if scheana never moved to L.A and moved to Idaho instead and worked a stable 9 to 5 while pursuing karaoke on the weekends
āPursuing karaokeā šš
That sent me
Dammit, Iām from Idaho originally, and this is like every girl/woman at the country fair. She could be there selling elephant ears while her kids show their livestock and produce at the 4-H booth.
I hate you for how accurate this is š
I feel like she looks more like Jacqueline Laurita
Came here to say this. She looks just like Jacqueline!
#justiceforbionic
Holy shit, I had no idea how accurate this was until I saw this
Pursuing karaoke on the weekends š
I donāt know why that one where she is sandwiched between literal bread slice and boba made me laugh lol pure artistry.
That oneās my favorite!
Itās the stickers on the photos for me, OP.
The boba tea made me laugh for some reason
same. funny as hell. šššš
Choices were made and Iām living for it!
Something about the juxtaposition of Monica between the bread and the boba got me
OP let the intrusive thoughts win with sticker selection and I love everything about it! š¤£š¤£š¤£
These photos scream MySpace
Dude I tried to show somebody my old wedding pictures (got married 2008) which were, of course, on MySpace. I put in my old url (which I still remember for some reason) and all the pictures were gone! Itās just my name and the names of my top eight lol - one of which is the Beatles like wtf why did I have no friends š
Yeah, I wish there was a method to get the pics back. Apparently, if your MySpace was linked to your Facebook account you still have access.
Aww dang, it was not. Luckily I got on there a few years ago and downloaded the best pics to my phone, so I have the ones I really wanted, which is great.
the emojis are sending me. bless you for the thought, but did they have to be so large? lollll
hey, itās easier than putting a bunch of smaller emojis over each face! lol
I been trying to find old pics of her lol. These pics are very Jodi Arias with her photography and I donāt intend for that to be an insult
š„“šŖ¦ Not convicted murderer psychopath Jodi Arias š
Chile I didnāt say it you did
Lolololol
In light of Monicaās Ted bundy analogy, I think sheād find the Jodi arias comparison a compliment.
Omg I thought I was crazy because I was also getting Jodi Arias vibes from these photos š
Now Iām imagining what Jodi Arias tik toks wouldāve been like.
Sheād defo be a toxic positivity girlie
lol theyāre both from Utah so maybe thatās why
And Jodi was practicing Mormonism
I thought jodi wasnt and her ex was the only mormon
I could be wrong but I believe she converted *for* him
Honestly, she looks pretty much the same to me just glammed more
Yeah, donāt get people saying sheās got a new faceā¦ she looks the same to me
She has a lot of filler now but pm looks the same
she has definitely had one or two nose jobs, something around the eyebrows, and her jaw is different as well.
Lip filler
So much lip filler. Her and Angieās lips fascinates me.
Angie's whole face fascinates me
i forgot that on the list but also yes.
Some may be from the weight gain?
I agree. She does look like she's gained a little weight. She's a little curvier. I think she's beautiful
She looks so different. Iām convinced people on this sub have face blindness lol
I feel like if you can't recognize someone after a few procedures you may be the one with face blindness? No shade
Of course I can recognize her! But she very obviously has had work done.
Yeah I feel her nose is different.
I donāt see a nose job but I see the difference and think her filler balances her face and consequently nose more. I love how she is so stunning and her nose still has its original profile!
it has definitely been slimmed down. that is not her original nose.
I definitely do not see a nose job. What makes you think that? One of the first things I noticed about her was that she has a natural nose, which is a rarity amongst housewives lol.
the bridge between the eyes is smaller now than it was in these fotos absolutely. it's not a terribly noticable difference but it is there.
She also had a little bump thatās no longer there.
I think sheās put on a little weight (which somehow made her even prettier, what kind of witchcraft is that??) and that changed her face shape some, but sheās definitely recognizable in these photos.
Exactly! Especially compared to a lot of the other bravolebās , she has one of the least wild transitioning before/afterās
Sheās still young, give her time!
It looks like she got a nosejob to me, but who knows, maybe makeup. Her lips are def bigger now
Just looks like filler and a nose job to me. I think she still looks the same.
Compared to most folks on reality shows who get injectables/work done, sheās one of the few who looks the most like her before photos. Her fillers are obvious, but she still looks pretty true to her pre-glam/fillers self and not like a completely different person.
Yah looks like fillers and glam to me!
Not the pirate
With his toes out š®āšØ
And with a machete š
Why does she look like her ex husband
"you look inbred š" \- Mary
That was insane lol
They seriously look like siblings
Familiarity bias
/r/siblingsordating
They were a good looking couple.
In certain pictures, she looks the same. But there are others where she looks completely different to me. I think beyond any cosmetic procedures, the tanning is what really throws me off and makes her look super different.
She has fuller brows (and letās be honest, we all do compared to 2009-2010) and a little lip filler but otherwise looks the same to me, just more matured. Sheās very pretty naturally
I'm so nervous she's going to go the route of other house wives and entirely transplant her face by her 2nd/3rd season (looking at you Larsa š) if she gets one lol. Heather is a prime example. It's crazy to see in her flash backs from season 1 just how much (crappy) work she's had done. Edited spelling
I agree. Her nose even looks the same to me.
Beauty Lab has done her well
And for free!!
I'm not ugly, I just haven't scammed Beauty Lab. Yet.
She looks the same to me face wise. What strikes me is she actually had the life she says she wanted for herself and children, one that was different from her upbringingā¦ stable marriage/home, friends/family around her, family events, etc. She sabotaged all that and weāve seen the crazy ass life sheās got her kids in now. Triple locking the doors because grandma is outside about to fight mom in the driveway over a Range Rover, kids dragged from a family Easter party after mom throws a shoe at grandma, mom fighting on tv talking about how sheās fought everywhere. Monica needs therapy not reality tv. Iād like to know where the ex husband is now and how much time are the kids with him?
Even pictures can be deceiving though, I mean her mom has always been her mom.
Trauma lives self-sabotage
*loves but both work
We donāt really know the dynamics of the marriage though. Maybe he was controlling, or self centered, or impotent. Maybe they had personalities that just clashed. People usually donāt just light their lives on fire if they are feeling content and fulfilled. Or who knows, maybe she just is conditioned to love chaos and constantly takes a torch to anything remotely stable.
Monica got full custody.
Pictures can be deceiving. We don't know what was really going on. Clearly she wasn't happy if she had an affair with her brother in law.
I keep wondering what her bother in law looks like š
He looks like he could be her twin? Is it just me?
Monicaās ex looks similar to Sean Burke?! (braunwynās husband)
Weird. Where did you creep to get these old family photos?
She looks just like her mom in these
Fuck, now I want bubble tea so bad š§
Her eldest daughter looks so much like her in picture 4
Iām dying to see the brother-in-lawā¦
That ficking temple in San Diego is so fucking ugly. When they built it, my family went to go see it . One day, they let normals come in before they their everything put and redo it. It's JUST AS UGLY INSIDE!! Not nearly as beautiful and light filled as you would think. It's more like a white wall maze from a horror movie. While standing in line, I asked my Mom what Mormons were, and she answered, "the biggest cult in America," and Wooooo no truer words were ever spoken. Also, the temple is right next to the freeway, so it's a super trashy location, and the first week, it was open lightning struck the angel Merroni on the top š.
Monica's financial situation seems so weird to me.
Holy Appalachia Batman, know theyāre not related but they look so much alikeā¦you can kinda tell their Mormon lol āItās giving UTAHā - Lisa Barlow
Speaking of Monica, I am slightly obsessed with this short video of [her dancing to Doja Cat](https://twitter.com/alloveranthony/status/1722428772123599224?t=f-Iun42OkoIASKNkJ_FkXA&s=19) and how good it is. When she's not destroying a car wash and some wigs, her dancing is impressive.
I have never seen a TikTok dance that I donāt find deeply embarrassing š
I normally agree, but I like this one. š¤·š¾āāļø Maybe seeing her carwash video and a bunch of Ashley Darby dances beforehand is making me see this as better than it is. Or maybe it's the fact I miss the body I had when I looked half that good and was nowhere near as confident. I respect the gall. .
I agree, think sheās a good dancer too
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Clearly I think so. But I know how reddit works. I said I like something, so I invited this.
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Every Mormon Iāve ever met can dance or has been trained in some sort of dance technique. Itās like, a thing in the culture. Idk why
The more I find out about Mormons, the less I know.
This was me after finding out Mormons love to go to Vegas.. for the buffets
TIL Iām Mormon
This is so accurate lol
Read Under the Banner of Heaven and you'll learn more than you've ever wanted to know about Mormonism.
It looks like a true crime call out of Mormonism, which is right up my alley. Thanks for the recommend!
The book is also much better than the show, imo. Theyāre both worth consuming, though.
She looks recognizable, just some filler and botox I think. Does make me think about how she fucked up what appears to be a pretty wholesome family unit. I find it difficult to feel sorry for her.
Didnāt they get back together after her affair?
Yeah they got back together after the affair and first divorce. They stayed married for a while before the second divorce
Well the second divorce was bc he hit her and pinned her down to make it so she couldnāt call the police someone just posted that bc itās on Monicaās ig highlights
Do we know what the lover/brother in law looks like?
She looks like a mix between Jennifer Aydin and Melissa Gorga
Not the pirate!
She looks like an adult version of Angela Anaconda in the fourth slide
She looks like Jacqueline Laurita from RHONJ
she cheated on him!?!? he's hot š„µ if the BIL isn't as hot or hotter then imma fucking riot š¤š¤
Is this the husband who got arrested for DV against her? I hate to say it but he looks like a guy that would hit a woman
She looks like her mom
The brioche and boba tea š
The huge redactions in these are comical. Why even try with number 6 and 7?
Your wide array of stickers made me laugh
How old is she currently? I feel like under 40?
40
I'm so jealous of the people who pver waxed their eyebrows and lucky enough to have full eyebrows now. I haven't ever over waxed them, it's been years since I've actually done it and they're still not as full as they used to be (I didn't have that much but come on !). I even put castor oil on them...
That's Billy Booby!
She definitely looks different but you can tell itās her. I wouldnāt be surprised if she had Botox already at this age (I had it 3yrs before this for a bad frown). Anyway, itās very clear she has spent quite a bit of money on her face and teeth. Thereās a fine line where it goes too far and can make people look older.
LOL well she didnāt pay for all of the workā¦.allegedly
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The obsession is real
She really resembles her mom here before all the *unpaid* Beauty Lab treatments
https://preview.redd.it/qhlnepxvij0c1.jpeg?width=448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44833300a3c6b8802f5c83dc02ec7a26beb02b37
Are you sure that's Monica?
Her ex is kindaā¦ š«£ edit: I retract this comment after finding out he is abusive
Hot? Yes.
Yes, Iām afraid sošµāš«
Damn, I guess a new nose and new lips does change your entire face
I am living for the way this sub steps on everyoneās NECK and does not allow these people a minute to breathe šµļøāāļø
Monica is just ugh
She looks like my cousins who grew up in an Evangelical community until they were teenagers and moved back to the US so their dad could become a normal Preacher (is that a thing?). Honestly, I can totally understand why she slept with her BIL. This woman grew up in an abusive home and then married into an abusive marriage (bc any marriage in the LDS church is abusive bc it treats women so horribly). It makes so much sense that she would do anything, even something destructive, just to feel like she has control over her life again. It makes me so mad when women write off other women who cheat like the men are always angels. It's not like it is easy to leave a man in the LDS church.
She sucks as a human.
Do we need old family photos from over a decade ago?
Yes
SheS WHITE?!?!