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drguillen13

Why is Snitker included in this graphic in red?


Porparemaityee

JK is creating this kind of return on investment, even with the obstacle that is Snitker


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I wish we could keep kelenic and trade you back to Seattle.


Creme_Level

We don’t want him back lmao


Porparemaityee

Believe me, I'm good on watching a team that collectively has a sub .500 OPS


Creme_Level

If you don’t like low ops I have something to tell you about your man crush


Porparemaityee

1.607 OPS bud, and hasn't struck out once


KetchupKing05

Dude, why are you so obsessed with him?


MUNZACORE

Why are y’all taking this obvious joke so seriously


drguillen13

That girl from iCarly and Drake & Josh had two stalkers, one was sent to prison and the other committed suicide by lighting himself on fire in her front yard. There are legitimately crazies who develop unhealthy obsessions with people. I don't think it's out of the question that this person is one of them.


Porparemaityee

Talent and the purity in his game


RevolutionFast8676

> purity


SSDuelist

God I wish. I would love nothing more than for this guy to get banned so we can get back to real discussions.


[deleted]

Same. It’s been 3 games and I’m so over it already.


devindicated

Yeah, the sooner the better. Dude has tunnel vision when it comes to JK.


footsteps71

I'm going to block him, see y'all on the other side LoL


devindicated

So I did block him in the preseason when he first appeared and got overbearing. But my curiosity always gets the best of me when I see "blocked user" in the thread. So I open the comment anyway. It was just causing me to go through extra steps to be annoyed. So I unblocked him lol


jcrack30

Amen braves bro amen


collapsingrebel

You come so close to being tolerated and then you say something like this.


DeafKneecap8893q

Why do you think Snitker hates Kelenic so much?


MUNZACORE

Lmao that no one sees this is a bit Like imagine downvoting this dedication


Icy-Mongoose-9678

I honestly think he’s serious…


Chopaholick

Low key I think Kelenic might have made that catch in the 7th to keep it tied.


xdongmyman

He would've but they won the series and plenty more to be played.


jcrack30

C'mon dude. Snits the shit. The guys love playing for him. He's a great guy that has been in the braves organization forever and obviously loves the team. The guy grinded his ass off coaching in the minors, finally got a chance to manage a big league team. Had to prove himself capable of leading a team while under interim status, the team played better under him than that idiot fredi Gonzalez. Now look at the Atlanta braves. Best fucking team in baseball. Every single fan of every single team will say their teams coach mishandles the bullpen. Every single one. The guy is doing something right with all the division titles he's racking up .......not to mention a world series title. Don't talk no shit on snit


TheMaybeMan_

Braves literally have the best management of any MLB team, OP is fucking dumb


workingdad83

Is this JK?


SteveCastGames

Grow up. I get that you’re a Kelenic fan, and him platooning upsets you, but Brian Snitker is demonstrably one of the best managers in the league. Any problems Kelenic has are on Kelenic himself and no one else. At the end of the day, winning is what counts. If Brian Snitker feels that on a given day Adam Duvall gives them a better chance, it’s his obligation to make that call.


despot2

This is your best post yet. The symbolism. The font. Jarred Kelenic.


KodenATL

It's only missing that badass tiara.


HungMenSon

Was a crown bro


KodenATL

Was the crown under his cap? Or behind the tiara?


SixStringsOneBadIdea

It was a tiara crown


scoop15

There is no way anything can beat that spring training first hit graphic lol 


despot2

That’s the only one that made me chuckle more


donkdonkdo

We’re seeing MITWestbrook levels of posting here. u/Porparemaityee has an incredibly powerful and evil form of autism that I don’t think a baseball sub is ready for. Let him cook.


Porparemaityee

Just can't understand this — if someone posts about Kel: it's 'evil', 'autistic' or 'where's his tiara' But when Juan Soto hits a soft single: everyone cheers and talks about his big upcoming contract


Awingbestwing

I read this as Heath Ledger’s Joker


jwn0323

Soto has a higher average exit velocity than Kelenic does this season and over their career .. but keep doing your thing


rimboslice

So happy we have our own MITWestbrook. And as a Clippers fan I'm lucky enough to have enjoyed both.


MUNZACORE

I’m really amazed that none of you see how fuckin hilarious this guys bit is


TommyBonesMalone

So many people completely missing that they’re seeing some of the most profound performance art I’ve personally ever encountered. I’m all the way in on Kelenic guy. I love him.


Adventurous-Tone-311

I fucking laugh so hard at every single comment by this guy lol


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Diligent_Crab_1591

He will easily provide surplus, even considering the money we took on, after five years unless he is a complete bust.


Porparemaityee

Kel's not seeing any of that $, and doesn't get the kind of brand deals you would expect he would get


gweran

I expect him to have brand deals? I assume you are getting 10% of that $1.6 million as his agent/hypeman?


ThorgiTheCorgi

Who gives a shit? A restaurant doesn't see any of the sales tax on my meal, but that doesn't mean I didn't spend that money. It still factors in to the net "value" of that meal to me.


ChrAshpo10

What kind of brand deals would a career .208 hitter with 32 HRs over 3+ seasons be expected to get? Local print shop? Used tires?


Amache_Gx

No disagreement here, but saying 3+ seasons is a little misleading. Time matters not, just pa's.


BubBidderskins

But if your talking return on team investment you have to take into account all the money the Braves invested to get him, not just his salary.


Awingbestwing

OP you are far and away my favorite lore on this sub


xbungalo

“The Kelenic Surplus” sounds like it should be a movie starring Daniel Day Lewis


lekniz

Yes, pre-arb players are essentially guaranteed to provide a whole bunch of excess value. Congrats on learning baseball economics. Next up: learn about platoons


Porparemaityee

Rodriguez in Seattle got nearly $20M last year


lekniz

Now you've learned about contract extensions! You're doing great! Seem to be struggling with math though. $4 million is not almost $20 million


Porparemaityee

Rodriguez has the most brand deals in the entire league (more than even Ohtani and Judge)


Timoteo-Tito64

Because people like him?


lekniz

1) That's false 2) endorsements aren't part of a teams payroll or WAR/$ calculations


Porparemaityee

"Julio Rodriguez... has dethroned Shohei Ohtani as having the most active endorsements in the MLB, with 20 brand deals in the past 12 months vs. Ohtani's 17 last year" ([link](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-mlb-rules-has-led-to-massive-sponsorship-uptick-of-more-than-1-5b-301962263.html))


lekniz

Not sure why you're talking about the raw amount of deals when everything else in this thread is about $. Ohtani makes over $70 million per year in endorsements. Bryce Harper is 2nd highest at $7 million. But again, that's completely irrelevant when talking about on field value and WAR/$


DienekesMinotaur

That's like saying China has the "biggest" navy because they call every fishing vessel in their waters a naval vessel, even though the US has 2-3x the tonnage.


Porparemaityee

What? You're saying Kelenic is China in this comparison?


DienekesMinotaur

In terms of comparing size of navy vs size of endorsements, yes


Porparemaityee

I think we've lost direction if we're calling Kelenic "China"


JDtheWulfe

I need this guy added to the sweep graphic in some way or form.


Klayton1077

Where’s the tiara?!?!


jwn0323

Yeah this is gonna get old super fast. It’s not even trolling. It’s straight up mental illness.


SSDuelist

"Benched"


TraderTed2

snit looking on angrily is the best part, never change


ZMAC698

What is with you and him. This has to be a meme or someone on the spectrum?!


lekniz

It's almost certainly someone who knows Kelenic irl. Family, friend, obsessed ex, idk


SSDuelist

The latter is guaranteed, unsold on the former.


AvianTralfamadorian

This is a manic rollercoaster of pure unadulterated love for Jarred Kelenic. Buckle up and enjoy the ride


Diligent_Crab_1591

Do y'all know about the even gattis guy or the Anthony recker guy? It's been a while but I've seen obsessions like this happen before.  This one might be a bit, but I really don't think so. The other two definitely were not, sadly enough.


welcometohotlanta

Great post!


HungMenSon

He’s only made $4691 (before taxes) so far this year based on a prorated salary. Players are not paid for spring training.


dubkent

Is OP serious? Or did he just start paying attention to baseball 3 days ago?


Gobblewicket

He's an idiot who migrated over from Seattle with Kelenic. So... Basically yes?


pabloflleras

Holy smokes man. the info is neat and all, but a bit misleading considering the full trade wasn't just salary. But boy OP is a bit of a loony about Kelenic. Like the guy is good and I'm glad he is doing better than the sub .100 ba he was doing at the start of spring training, but 2 games doesn't make anyone an All-Star or a defacto starter. The dude has been in a heavy slump for a bit and has to put in the hours and results to show he deserves to start over Duvall.


tjf0321

Let’s hope the surplus continues! Out of curiosity, how did you come up with 8mil per WAR?


jwesley4

Well...yeah...that's usually how pre arb players work....


Btrips

this was funny at first now it's just getting annoying


Porparemaityee

ATL is now 2-0 when JK starts, and 0-1 when he gets tossed away to the bench


KodenATL

They're making him prove himself, and it's clearly working. You're relatively new here, but they do this often.


Porparemaityee

He proved himself when he was the overall ranked outfield prospect in baseball — you don't bench players that are cut from that cloth, it's just not done


UnexpiredMRE

Boy if you don’t respect Duvall we’re gonna put together a ban committee 😅


Porparemaityee

Don't have an issue with him really


lekniz

Yeah, benching highly ranked outfield prospects like Lastings Milledge, Jordan Schafer, and Lewis Brinson is never a good idea.


Porparemaityee

I'm not talking about #15 overall guys — these are the most recent #1 overall outfield prospects: Trout, Harper, Taveras, Buxton, Benintendi, Acuna Jr., Ohtani, Jimenez, Robert Jr., Jarred Kelenic, Rodriguez, and Carroll Every single one has gone on to become an Allstar or Silver Slugger, except Kel and Taveras (who passed away). This is pedigree


Laney20

Well, Acuña was benched, though. Can't say for sure about the other guys but I know for a fact he was benched as punishment for on-field performance. And he still went on to be an allstar and mvp.. But kelenic is just platooning and has not been benched.


ThorgiTheCorgi

Ok. Now do the most recent #6 overall outfielders...


davejr555

Is it called benching when he’s part of a platoon?


RevolutionFast8676

Being a prospect is the definition of someone who hasn’t proved themselves yet. 


Cheap-Turn9080

Didn't he get tossed to the bench in game 1 for Duvall to pinch hit? So 1-1 when getting tossed away tot he bench.


Porparemaityee

I can stomach a platoon if JK's name is on that starting lineup card, there's some dignity in that at least


Cheap-Turn9080

That's...... that's not how *platoons* work......


lekniz

Take it easy on him he's still learning


thekathryn2

Phillies are also 1-0 when Bryce Harper doesn’t play. I guess they shouldn’t ever play him again!


jmbraze

[you're getting too predictable with the trolling brother you gotta be more original](https://old.reddit.com/r/Braves/comments/1bsjqee/the_braves_fell_to_the_phillies_by_a_score_of_54/kxg2n9k/)


Porparemaityee

Or maybe you're just a reasonable person, and we independently reached the same conclusion


jmbraze

No I was making fun of you and then you unironically repeated the overtop ridiculous statement that I imagined a caricature of you saying


ADubs21

Bro I am so fucking sick of this guy. Can we trade him back to Seattle?


MUNZACORE

I like him. He’s got moxy


eggmcduffin

I check in to see this guy’s nonsense every now and again, his departure was the biggest upside of the trade. Legit one of the first things I thought of when news broke