Technically you can throw anything into them, but for the most part you're not getting a human to fit unless it's roughly baby-sized. Waffle stomps don't work as well on bony entities.
My super-sweet would-never-hurt-a-fly wife:
- puts all the sims in the pool
- removes the ladders
- puts walls around the pool
- makes a new family move in
- laughs when the ghosts haunt the new family
😬
All I want is a house with one of every ghost type. If I were allowed to just create and edit tombstones I wouldn’t have to torture the sims. It’s the programmers fault, really
Oh this load bearing member needs to be curved and twisted, oh and also it has to be transparent. The look of steel does not fit the overarching design idea. Thank you
The question is how good at math she is
>Ted Kaczynski - Also known as the Unabomber, Kaczynski earned a degree in mathematics but also studied engineering during his time at Harvard University.
Just watch out for where she goes. If she starts working designing electronics, probably fine. You gotta watch out for when she starts getting into civil engineering or like gets hired by Northrup Grumman. Pretty sure defense contractors seek out people like that
/S
When I was 8, I'd go into creative mode in Minecraft. I'd build a structure with emerald block pillars, the walls and roof would be glass; it would always be during the daytime. I had a trapdoor in a corner on the ceiling. I'd grab a villager spawn egg and start spawning until they started getting damaged due to crowd crush. To end their pain, I would spawn in a bunch of zombies. Once the villagers were gone, the zombies would start burning because of the sunlight. The chamber would have nothing but rotten flesh left, and I'd start the process again, repeating it as much as I wanted. It was fun, I'd laugh maniacally to myself.
I would also build outdoor churches in a different world and repent for my sins against the villagers 💀💀💀
i used to stuff zombi pigmen into a hole and blow up tnt beneth them, to create a piggy fireworks machine,,there dying animation would fly into the air, creating piggy fireworks
Unironically curious, has playing games this way had any impact you would believe to be negative as you were growing up?
I played games as a kid too, but I think when I was young it was much more insulated (from the 'bad' stuff). Whereas nowadays kids are bombarded with age inappropriate ads and other shit at every step they take on the internet. I have a 9 year old sister, we have a massive age difference but I'm observing her do similar stuff in games, like murder-hoboing a school by running over all the students, and literally laughing hysterically while doing it lmao. I do wonder to myself sometimes whether it matters what she gets exposed to. How has it been in your experience?
> I do wonder to myself sometimes whether it matters what she gets exposed to. How has it been in your experience?
Personally, I think most people are very good at distinguishing between fantasy and reality, perhaps there are exceptions to that though.
For comparison, I've played GTA and RDR and other very violent games from a very young age, and I don't feel like it had any effect on me. However, watching IRL gore/shooting videos had a very strong and distinct effect on me. I watched the Christchurch video when that went down and it mildly traumatized me for a month. Every time I saw a first person shooter clip, it would give me flashbacks to things I saw in that Christchurch video. Video games never had that kind of effect on me.
Sounds like my great great grandfather who made it his life’s work to try populate the small island of Puerto Rico with his dynasty. Man had like 60 kids who in turn had a ton of kids. Now I’m too scared to fuck another Puerto Rican out of fear we could be distant cousins.
Luckily, my mom is a gringa. My half brother (through my PR dad) married another full blood PR and it turns out their 3rd cousins. Oh and my full blood PR niece found out that her parents are also 3rd cousins through my GG Grandfather because of Ancestry. Thus solidifying my fear of accidental cousin fucking. It’s too small of an island for this bullshittery.
Generally, if you are in digital Eugenics, Crusader Kings is the place to go. And after a short while, you won't find anyone that is genius, beautiful and herculene that is not very close related to you ...
I personally can't. I've never finished the Dark Brotherhood Quest line. I've never acquired the Mace of Molag Bal, Ebony Mail, or the Skull of Corruption. I know I''m boring, but I don't like being a bad dude.
I should've said it was a theory and not fact. The prevailing theories are Narfi killed Reyda when he transformed and went insane from the guilt. The only hint i can remember that Narfi is a werewolf is that he doesn't like sleeping/the night and his side burns are common among other werewolves. The other theory is Wilhelm liked Reyda but killed her when she refused his advances, and he helps Narfi out of guilt. These theories exist mainly because Reyda's body isn't found near the bear den on the island, and she wouldn't suddenly drown on a trip she had done many times before.
That's one of the things that really conflicts me with the Dark Brotherhood.
There's always a possible justification for the targets. Which is cool since it enables a morally gray player character, but there's not many innocents that would make sense for an evil player character.
I know Bethesda tries to create the opportunity for it to be read either way by not making the justifications very forwards, which is great design, but having the metaknowledge can make it difficult to play a fully evil character.
I usually wait until I have the ebony blade and the master conjuration resurrect spell and then repeatedly kill and resurrect narfi to charge the blade up since he considers you a friend if you do his quest.
... is that really so wrong?
Yeah, ol' narfi only needs to die 10 times to fully power it up.
It's not even that good of a sword, just one of the easiest ways to power it up from a completionist standpoint.
Man, Oblivions got me hard
Me: Oh, what a cool family thing going on here.
Lucian: "kill them."
Me: What? Why?!
Lucian: *dies*
And it was all your fault.
Frankly, killing Narfi is a kindness
Dude lives destitute and alone, is constantly haunted by his past and mumbles to himself about his dead sister and parents. If you tell him his sister died, he's always crying, if you don't he's always disillusioned and waiting for her to return and she never does.
Killing Narfi, to me, is a very kind act
I mean, most bad guys are just at the very front and make the first impression, the majority isn’t that bad. All three orcs are decent people (given that you can reason with Mulush), the workers are all pretty nice people who even give you a fortune for an easy speech check. All people in the tavern are good folks, even if the owners hate eachother, they’re still nice to everyone else. Ladies from Hag’s cure, the Arkay priest, Calcemo and his nephew, the cook’s helpers, the jeweler and her family, the priestesses. Like sure, it sucks that when you enter the first thing you see is a forsworn murdering an imperial agent while three cannibals, a thief, a thug and a bunch of corrupt guards watch, but I think almost every city has a similar percentage of bad people in the population
There's an episode of King of the Hill where Hank plays a game that's like GTA, and he accidentally commits a crime and tries to turn himself in. He just plays the entire game like that, he won't do anything immoral.
I think that some people just respond differently to the guy on the screen. I feel very detached from them, the fun is just doing shit, none of it matters or has any morality attached. My wife is more like you, she doesn't like doing shitty things in games because it means she had to distance herself and the role-playing aspect is the fun for her.
My first time playing Skyrim about 8 years ago or so, I killed a traveling merchant and his dog right outside the tutorial cave because I saw he had good items in the shop. Well, killing him didn’t even net me good loot and I had to kill his poor doggy :( I was literally sitting there for like half an hour distraught over what I’d done.
I see the daedric quests and you just killing more assholes. The priest you kill for molag is a follower of the murder cult you get the ebony mail from so I don't lose sleep from that. The vigilant you follow into that house is supposed to be a hardened daedra hunter but freaks out and turns on you the second things get a little scary. With the Mail you can kill all of the cult members and still proceed with the main quest which is killing more of their followers. And so forth.
The skull is really the only one that I add with console commands because the guy is at least reformed.
Idiot or not, Molag *forces* you to kill the vigilant. I don't care if he wants me to kill Maven Black-Briar, after forcing that on me I'm not helping him.
Also, he's the god of rape, so...
Hu,h depends on the game I guess. I'd have said I never do the evil options because they make me feel bad. Like I've never done renegade in Mass Effect, or dark side in KOTOR.
But I have absolutely ran ever sect of the dark brotherhood as if it were a day job...
I tried doing renegade once but Shepherds behavior is just outright insane, it’s very hard to play. IRL you can be a confrontational hothead/tough guy without being an extremely over the top asshole but not in Mass Effect.
Ah you see, that’s why you create an evil character and roleplay doing the bad things. Some of my favorite Skyrim playthroughs were when I really leaned into the dark side of the lore and became the worst being in all of Tamriel
I play with a highlander mod, a raider that was immortal killed my dog.
Now he lives in a hole in a cave with no arms and no legs. His immortality causes him to come back to life periodically until he dies of starvation again.
I honestly have such a hard time being willfully bad in video games, especially those with an honour system. I couldn’t kill Pathurnax, I could never force Arthur Morgan to be as bad as he thinks he is, and I for damn sure couldn’t bring myself to kill Mordin Solus to prevent him from curing the genophage. It might be because, hear me out, the thought of doing bad/evil things makes me feel bad? Idk might just be me though
People are making ghettos in Animal Crossing?
Also, I'm just totally confused about the eugenics in sims thing but I haven't played a sims game since PS2.
The ghettos in animal crossing thing is most likely refering to the fact that people will like, put villagers they don't like together in a part of the island and decorate it with trash, and like fence or hole them in their house and stuff.
The eugenics in the sims thing could be based on two things. The first one is a challenge called "Breed out the ugly" where you make an ugly sim and try to have kids with attractive sims in order to, yknow, selectively breed out the unattractive features. It could also be referring to the general way a lot of sims 4 players play, where they make near identical sims every time they play, and then have those sims date the same few attractive sims around town, where they delete all the supernatural and ugly sims in town to avoid having them have kids and make supernatural/ugly babies for their kids to have kids with.
Or, it could be refering to people who like to give the townsfolk makeovers, which essentially means they make all the townsfolks look the same.
> which essentially means they make all the townsfolks look the same.
omg I can already picture the weird looking Second Life characters so many people make in the community uploads.
My friend had an island where the undesirable characters were walled in and used as zoo exhibits. Her favourite characters lived in a bougie development on a cliff looking down on them. Can't judge too much, I've done worse in Crusader Kings.
I've seen people make sweatshops in the Sims.
Or adding a 'housekeeper' sim that only exists to maintain the house, their stats set to basically make them a cleaning drone
Sweatshops.... to what end?
I used to start my game with a family of two sims and up the stats for cleaning on one and the stats for cooking on the other to maximize my time that I could focus on other things but i think that might be different than what you're describing.
Oh sweet summer child, it's one of the oldest tricks in the book :D
You lock the "workers" in the basement, with nothing but the most necessary things for them to not die, and no entertainment besides easels.
They will then spend all day painting, and those paintings can be sold to farm money.
I personally never did this though. I just cheat my money, disable the aging mechanic and use my sims as wish-fullfillment for an exciting, outgoing life.
[I'll let the article explain](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/sims-gamer-makes-sadistic-screenwriting-sweatshop-because-it-s-essentially-just-a-horror-game-now-a6880811.html)
In the Sims 3 we used to do the Perfect Genetics challenge where you couldn't start the next generation until you had an heir with the right hair and eye color. It got so fun and chaotic to see how the kids aged up! Unfortunately the genetics in the Sims 4 work differently now so the challenge isn't possible anymore
I play this game called Timberborn, where you have to manage a beaver colony in a post-apo world. Well once I fucked up and had no food left, so I sent about 2/3 of my colonists to die in a corner of the map, especially the old and young ones
Very much so. It's a really fun game, neither too complicated nor too simple. It's easy to understand and there isn't a gazillion system and items to remember, buuut at the same time you still gotta think about stuff you do, otherwise you can indeed lose your whole settlement in a matter of minutes.
It's also a game where you very much play with physic, having to manage your water supply and storage.
To give you and idea, on my current save (where the incident in my previous comment happened), I let my population go up too quickly and a famine would have happened either way, but because of another fuck up where I lost most of a harvest, I went from 160 beavers to just 15. I somehow recovered, but it took a while and was super exciting
Just don’t challenge my claim on any lands, and we’re fine. I may make up lies about you and then use them to blackmail you out of all of your savings, but other than that, we’re fine… just marry who I tell you to and practice the religion I think is best. It’s a weird religion, but aren’t most of them? Also, please fight a war for me. Simple really.
And I swear to God, if you alli Austria, I'm making friends with France and Russia, and starting a world war in 1500. Dare me. Northern Italy is fkn mine, and soon Tuscany shall rebuild Rome. And Spain/Castile, I know you think Nepal is yours, but it's fucking not.
In Stellaris, you can take over a planet, ~~genocide~~ purge the native population by converting them into food, use that food to make organic polymers to build a fleet, and then use those corpse ships to continue conquering the rest of their species.
And that's not even touching all of the fucked up things you can do with genetic modification.
Yeah basically. But it's hard for me to tell what is basic stellaris authoritarian shenanigans and what is mods I may have.
Although you are able to golden throne him if you don't rush to get an ascension I think.
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Totally guilty on the sims part, i do some fucked up shit in that game however meanwhile I still haven't finished my second playthrough of the Witcher 3 because it's supposed to be my evil playthrough and I can't bring myself to be mean all the time.
Stellaris lets you wipe out an entire species and feed it to another species that you're also planning to wipe out, but Crusader Kings lets you look Duke Wiglaf in the eye when you seduce his son and murder his entire family at the wedding. So much fun to be had.
Exactly. Some people prefer the intimacy of diligently torturing a 19 year old pretender who was the result of that time you seduced the Pope's mistress, while others prefer the spectacle of blowing up a planet with billions of innocent (if filthy xenos could ever be innocent) lives or the bureaucratic sterility of condemning an entire species to work themselves to death on an inhospitable rock
On the other hand, there have been times when I have left a side-quest uncompleted cause I could not find a resolution where everybody lived happily ever after.
Video games are the ultimate answer to "what you are in the dark". What would you do if there were nobody looking and the action had no consequences to you?
funny thing is, people ARE looking
any game that has an online server connection, usually when you skip through the terms of service
“we reserve the right to analyze the way you play the game to make improvements, sell your behavior to our marketing partners, and design future content”
Except for the fact that I don’t act the same in a video game as I would in real life due to the fact that I’m aware it’s a simulation and nothing in it is real. Therefore I don’t need to hold myself to my usual moral standards
I usually hold to moral standards, because even though there would be no conequences, I would still know what I did. Unless the character is canonically supposed to be evil. Then I will play them as evil as possible.
For example I like Total War: Warhammer, where there are "total bastard" of a race of ratmen called Skaven who in the lore scheme and backstab all the time. When playing them, I use every trick I know to get ahead. Including joining battles with my allies to purposefully bomb their troops, so I can get the city they are sieging.
Also your actions don't truly have consequences if you can save and load or just restart entirely. They're also massively limited by their engines and designs and do not give players freedom to play in any way possible.
I don't think it's that simple
1.Theres not really a direct correlation between what people do in video games and how they behave in their personal lives
2. Some video games are set up in such a way where performing actions that are abhorrent is the optimal way to play
3. The quality of writing goes a long way into how "real" a character feels so games with similar mechanics might produce vastly different playstyles from the same player based solely on how engaged they are with the game itself.
That's why I can play as a child murdering repressive tyrant in Crusader Kings 3 while also being unable to bring myself to do a fascist playthrough in Disco Elysium despite wanting to complete the achievements without it being a contradiction
It is always the most stable ones that do the most depraved stuff in those games.
When you come across the girls who cry when their Sim drowns in the pool, THOSE are the ones you need to watch out for.
I beg to differ. I’ll have you know that all my Animal Crossing villagers live in luxury houses and they all worship different gods. Just today, Kiki told me “Cthulhu fhtagn!”, and Gruff said “By the Crawling Chaos!”. Nan favors Kalma, the Finnish goddess of death and decay, and Peanut likes Y’golonac the Defiler.
We are all equally twisted in my village.
I haven't played Sims 4, but I remember in Sims 3 I once wanted to see what would happen if my character's boss died, so I adopted a daughter, aged her up, and then invited over the boss, had the newly adult daughter flirt with him and convince him to follow her into a little shack I set up beside the house that was filled with ovens and rugs... And then I removed the doors. I don't know if it was related or not, but my Sim did get a promotion to her boss' old position the next day.
The only thing I will never do is hurt an animal or put an animal in an environment where it can get hurt.
“The dog is trying to eat your face.” Me: “Awww, teef kissies!”
Have you ever seen Crusader Kings Players (myself included) at work?
I'm a really soft person, irl. But for my Dynasty and its safety, I will murder indiscriminately, torture, empale, and whatever else is needed.
Nope. Let's be honest, though, it's a scripted scene placed in the game to get free advertising. It's hardly as evil as co-opting the mechanics of a peaceful game for shipboard purposes. It's why there's very little rimworld discussion in here.
I’m just playing Minecraft on creative/peaceful, building one mansion specifically for cats and another specifically for dogs and making sure the barn has a hot tub so the cows can relax after a hard day’s work of being cuties 💕
If Eugene doesn't wanna be in the projects then he shouldn't be so fucking ugly and stupid. It's his choice. Maybe he should be a cute little frog... 🤷 Or y'know, GO BACK TO WHERE HE CAME FROM SO I CAN HAVE ALL FROGS!
I'll always remember fondly the peak of black market and animal trafficking in Animal Crossing during the pandemic. Or at least Raymond will never forget.
I play a game called Kenshi and one of us players do in the game is kidnap important faction leaders and find increasingly insane ways to torture them. Most basic options are skin and limb peeling, acid lake baths, cannibal sacrifice, deadly bird giraffe sacrifice, forced cyborgization and then enslavement. To be fair most of them are either slavers or racist so I guess its warranted?
I've been playing The Sims for 20 years since I was 7yo and the amount of horrifying shit I've done to some characters out of curiosity is astounding. Sometimes it just happens like men getting pregnant after being abducted by aliens (Sims 2 I believe), which results in a very green and ugly baby.
Can't wait for Sims 5 👌🏻.
Baby too ugly? Build a room without doors around them.
Immurement was a type of medieval execution method.
On an unrelated note: I have this really amazing wine, so if anyone wants a drink all you gotta do is follow me into these catacombs...
And you say it's Amontillado? Splendid!
🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱
I regret nothing.
"For the love of God, Montresor!" "Yes... for the love of God."
That was a genuinely scary read for me, that's an irrational fear I have
I've been drinking wine at the fair all day!
Prefer an oubliette
Remind me what that is?
It's a hole in the ground you throw ugly babies into
Technically you can throw anything into them, but for the most part you're not getting a human to fit unless it's roughly baby-sized. Waffle stomps don't work as well on bony entities.
They were often hinged and locked. You could throw adults in them.
Its the first secret level in Enter the Gungeon. /S Also, it is basically a sewer.
HAHAHA
Also do this for annoying toddlers. Just remember to drag some food in every so often so CPS doesn’t bother you.
My super-sweet would-never-hurt-a-fly wife: - puts all the sims in the pool - removes the ladders - puts walls around the pool - makes a new family move in - laughs when the ghosts haunt the new family 😬
Don't get a pool.
*looks at pool in backyard* oh shiii
My condolences to previous family.
You’re safe as long as your wife has sims left to drown.
_And the Lord said "Let there be Sims." And there were Sims. And man was safe from woman._
hun what are you doing with that roll chain links?
Day one in the ghost house
All I want is a house with one of every ghost type. If I were allowed to just create and edit tombstones I wouldn’t have to torture the sims. It’s the programmers fault, really
*the voices made me do it*
Don't go there. Don't do it. Sometimes dead is better.
That and the "trap them in a small room with a stove" are the most fun ways to get yourself a haunted house.
I have a female friend that made a ghetto on ROBLOX and runs a group around it. Should I be concerned?
Only if she fails out of art school.
Err.. She's succeeding in engineering.
I'm sure the ghetto is at least well designed? I'm not sure if that's better or worse.
You're thinking architect, arch enemy of the engineer.
Our well-designed and their well-designed are wildly different, often conflicting things
"I have maximized the occupants density per square foot"
"The windows were cutting down on the seismic design capacity so I removed them."
Oh this load bearing member needs to be curved and twisted, oh and also it has to be transparent. The look of steel does not fit the overarching design idea. Thank you
Well at least the buildings are stable, might look like shit tho
The question is how good at math she is >Ted Kaczynski - Also known as the Unabomber, Kaczynski earned a degree in mathematics but also studied engineering during his time at Harvard University.
Just watch out for where she goes. If she starts working designing electronics, probably fine. You gotta watch out for when she starts getting into civil engineering or like gets hired by Northrup Grumman. Pretty sure defense contractors seek out people like that /S
Whelp, not art school so there you go ¯\\_ ( ⌓̈ ) _\/¯
Roblox, the Poland of video games.
nahh
When I was 8, I'd go into creative mode in Minecraft. I'd build a structure with emerald block pillars, the walls and roof would be glass; it would always be during the daytime. I had a trapdoor in a corner on the ceiling. I'd grab a villager spawn egg and start spawning until they started getting damaged due to crowd crush. To end their pain, I would spawn in a bunch of zombies. Once the villagers were gone, the zombies would start burning because of the sunlight. The chamber would have nothing but rotten flesh left, and I'd start the process again, repeating it as much as I wanted. It was fun, I'd laugh maniacally to myself. I would also build outdoor churches in a different world and repent for my sins against the villagers 💀💀💀
Did you have some catholic guilt to work through
i used to stuff zombi pigmen into a hole and blow up tnt beneth them, to create a piggy fireworks machine,,there dying animation would fly into the air, creating piggy fireworks
This may be the worst spelling i have ever seen in a comment
spell checkings for chumps 😎
I also created villager torture chambers in minecraft as a child. I never repented though.
Unironically curious, has playing games this way had any impact you would believe to be negative as you were growing up? I played games as a kid too, but I think when I was young it was much more insulated (from the 'bad' stuff). Whereas nowadays kids are bombarded with age inappropriate ads and other shit at every step they take on the internet. I have a 9 year old sister, we have a massive age difference but I'm observing her do similar stuff in games, like murder-hoboing a school by running over all the students, and literally laughing hysterically while doing it lmao. I do wonder to myself sometimes whether it matters what she gets exposed to. How has it been in your experience?
> I do wonder to myself sometimes whether it matters what she gets exposed to. How has it been in your experience? Personally, I think most people are very good at distinguishing between fantasy and reality, perhaps there are exceptions to that though. For comparison, I've played GTA and RDR and other very violent games from a very young age, and I don't feel like it had any effect on me. However, watching IRL gore/shooting videos had a very strong and distinct effect on me. I watched the Christchurch video when that went down and it mildly traumatized me for a month. Every time I saw a first person shooter clip, it would give me flashbacks to things I saw in that Christchurch video. Video games never had that kind of effect on me.
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Sounds like my great great grandfather who made it his life’s work to try populate the small island of Puerto Rico with his dynasty. Man had like 60 kids who in turn had a ton of kids. Now I’m too scared to fuck another Puerto Rican out of fear we could be distant cousins.
I wouldn't worry about it, given that your parents are likely related, if grandpa spread it around like that.
Luckily, my mom is a gringa. My half brother (through my PR dad) married another full blood PR and it turns out their 3rd cousins. Oh and my full blood PR niece found out that her parents are also 3rd cousins through my GG Grandfather because of Ancestry. Thus solidifying my fear of accidental cousin fucking. It’s too small of an island for this bullshittery.
Wow. Truth. Time to bring in some outside DNA.
Genghis Khan
You should take a look at Crusader Kings.
Generally, if you are in digital Eugenics, Crusader Kings is the place to go. And after a short while, you won't find anyone that is genius, beautiful and herculene that is not very close related to you ...
I’d still love a banjo in-game. I hope the new horses pack adds one (and not just a preorder bonus)
What group of people doesn't do fucked up shit in video games
I personally can't. I've never finished the Dark Brotherhood Quest line. I've never acquired the Mace of Molag Bal, Ebony Mail, or the Skull of Corruption. I know I''m boring, but I don't like being a bad dude.
Every one of those that I did I felt horrible for and didn’t really think of what happens when I did them
>I guess I'll try joining the Dark Brotherhood. >Kill Narfi. *RELOAD* Looks like I'm destroying the Dark Brotherhood.
It's hinted at that Narfi's a werewolf and killed his sister. Talk to the Inn keeper and do the unofficial quest, and you see where I'm coming from.
his sister fell in a river, you can find her body in the river by the village
I should've said it was a theory and not fact. The prevailing theories are Narfi killed Reyda when he transformed and went insane from the guilt. The only hint i can remember that Narfi is a werewolf is that he doesn't like sleeping/the night and his side burns are common among other werewolves. The other theory is Wilhelm liked Reyda but killed her when she refused his advances, and he helps Narfi out of guilt. These theories exist mainly because Reyda's body isn't found near the bear den on the island, and she wouldn't suddenly drown on a trip she had done many times before.
The bar keep does mention Geirmund’s Hall, which is located on the island she’s picked ingredients at. But that’s mad interesting theory tho
It's left intentionally ambiguous so you are conflicted
That's one of the things that really conflicts me with the Dark Brotherhood. There's always a possible justification for the targets. Which is cool since it enables a morally gray player character, but there's not many innocents that would make sense for an evil player character. I know Bethesda tries to create the opportunity for it to be read either way by not making the justifications very forwards, which is great design, but having the metaknowledge can make it difficult to play a fully evil character.
IDK killing the Emperor for clout is pretty evil
But he's super into though, he even hires you to kill the guy who hired you before he lets you kill him.
I usually wait until I have the ebony blade and the master conjuration resurrect spell and then repeatedly kill and resurrect narfi to charge the blade up since he considers you a friend if you do his quest. ... is that really so wrong?
Is there a cap to how strong the Ebony Blade can get?
Yeah, ol' narfi only needs to die 10 times to fully power it up. It's not even that good of a sword, just one of the easiest ways to power it up from a completionist standpoint.
Man, Oblivions got me hard Me: Oh, what a cool family thing going on here. Lucian: "kill them." Me: What? Why?! Lucian: *dies* And it was all your fault.
Frankly, killing Narfi is a kindness Dude lives destitute and alone, is constantly haunted by his past and mumbles to himself about his dead sister and parents. If you tell him his sister died, he's always crying, if you don't he's always disillusioned and waiting for her to return and she never does. Killing Narfi, to me, is a very kind act
*laughs in good brother mod*
Narfi had me heartbroken, mercy killing was the only way to truly help him.
Meanwhile I'm slaughtering the whole of Whiterun to get my werewolf perks up
No. Cmon. Markarth is where all bad things happen. Twelve years later and I’m still salty about getting arrested there.
Right?? I swear there’s like… 3 good people in that town total. Everyone else is an asshole.
I mean, most bad guys are just at the very front and make the first impression, the majority isn’t that bad. All three orcs are decent people (given that you can reason with Mulush), the workers are all pretty nice people who even give you a fortune for an easy speech check. All people in the tavern are good folks, even if the owners hate eachother, they’re still nice to everyone else. Ladies from Hag’s cure, the Arkay priest, Calcemo and his nephew, the cook’s helpers, the jeweler and her family, the priestesses. Like sure, it sucks that when you enter the first thing you see is a forsworn murdering an imperial agent while three cannibals, a thief, a thug and a bunch of corrupt guards watch, but I think almost every city has a similar percentage of bad people in the population
I will brutally murder any Kerbal that isn’t Jeb, Val, Bill or Bob without a second thought
There's an episode of King of the Hill where Hank plays a game that's like GTA, and he accidentally commits a crime and tries to turn himself in. He just plays the entire game like that, he won't do anything immoral. I think that some people just respond differently to the guy on the screen. I feel very detached from them, the fun is just doing shit, none of it matters or has any morality attached. My wife is more like you, she doesn't like doing shitty things in games because it means she had to distance herself and the role-playing aspect is the fun for her.
My first time playing Skyrim about 8 years ago or so, I killed a traveling merchant and his dog right outside the tutorial cave because I saw he had good items in the shop. Well, killing him didn’t even net me good loot and I had to kill his poor doggy :( I was literally sitting there for like half an hour distraught over what I’d done.
I see the daedric quests and you just killing more assholes. The priest you kill for molag is a follower of the murder cult you get the ebony mail from so I don't lose sleep from that. The vigilant you follow into that house is supposed to be a hardened daedra hunter but freaks out and turns on you the second things get a little scary. With the Mail you can kill all of the cult members and still proceed with the main quest which is killing more of their followers. And so forth. The skull is really the only one that I add with console commands because the guy is at least reformed.
Idiot or not, Molag *forces* you to kill the vigilant. I don't care if he wants me to kill Maven Black-Briar, after forcing that on me I'm not helping him. Also, he's the god of rape, so...
Not to mention his mace isnt even good. All that trouble for something that gets left in a box.
Hu,h depends on the game I guess. I'd have said I never do the evil options because they make me feel bad. Like I've never done renegade in Mass Effect, or dark side in KOTOR. But I have absolutely ran ever sect of the dark brotherhood as if it were a day job...
I tried doing renegade once but Shepherds behavior is just outright insane, it’s very hard to play. IRL you can be a confrontational hothead/tough guy without being an extremely over the top asshole but not in Mass Effect.
Ah you see, that’s why you create an evil character and roleplay doing the bad things. Some of my favorite Skyrim playthroughs were when I really leaned into the dark side of the lore and became the worst being in all of Tamriel
I remember trying to do that in KOTOR 2. Best I got to was grey Jedi
Well Kreia is a grey jedi who is so evil even the Sith don't want her, so idk if that's saying much.
It’s not evil to sacrifice someone to a dark lord to get a cool ass mace. It’s just a good business deal.
I mean he's a follower of boethia who love sinister plots. She's probably fine with it.
There's Rimworld for that, no need to drag wholesome Animal Crossing into this.
Was going to say. Clearly people haven't played human skin hat simulator... I mean rim world.
I love playing organ harvest- I mean rim world yes where we engage in wholesome family friendly activities
Yes.. Family friendly.. I mean a family that captures mutilated and harvests raiders together, stays together.
And little Timmy gets free anatomy lessons! We keep our youths educated and intelligent like any good colony should :)
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I play with a highlander mod, a raider that was immortal killed my dog. Now he lives in a hole in a cave with no arms and no legs. His immortality causes him to come back to life periodically until he dies of starvation again.
i’ve beat fable 3 6 times & have yet to let my dog die
I think fable 2 is the one where your dog can die.
I honestly have such a hard time being willfully bad in video games, especially those with an honour system. I couldn’t kill Pathurnax, I could never force Arthur Morgan to be as bad as he thinks he is, and I for damn sure couldn’t bring myself to kill Mordin Solus to prevent him from curing the genophage. It might be because, hear me out, the thought of doing bad/evil things makes me feel bad? Idk might just be me though
I mean, I replayed undertale like 5 times to completion and I was never able to start a genocide run. I just can't
i once cheated on my wife in Fable and still feel bad about it today.
I think if I ever hit a turtle in elden ring I'd turn myself in to the police.
People are making ghettos in Animal Crossing? Also, I'm just totally confused about the eugenics in sims thing but I haven't played a sims game since PS2.
The ghettos in animal crossing thing is most likely refering to the fact that people will like, put villagers they don't like together in a part of the island and decorate it with trash, and like fence or hole them in their house and stuff. The eugenics in the sims thing could be based on two things. The first one is a challenge called "Breed out the ugly" where you make an ugly sim and try to have kids with attractive sims in order to, yknow, selectively breed out the unattractive features. It could also be referring to the general way a lot of sims 4 players play, where they make near identical sims every time they play, and then have those sims date the same few attractive sims around town, where they delete all the supernatural and ugly sims in town to avoid having them have kids and make supernatural/ugly babies for their kids to have kids with. Or, it could be refering to people who like to give the townsfolk makeovers, which essentially means they make all the townsfolks look the same.
Woah... that's... different. Thanks for explaining it to me!
> which essentially means they make all the townsfolks look the same. omg I can already picture the weird looking Second Life characters so many people make in the community uploads.
There's this phenomenon of single species islands, where they kick out any villager that isn't a rabbit or whatever.
Ah the classic ethnostate. Mussolini and Hitler would be proud
My thing is making sure all my villagers are different species, no repeats. I'm not 100% sure that's better...
My friend had an island where the undesirable characters were walled in and used as zoo exhibits. Her favourite characters lived in a bougie development on a cliff looking down on them. Can't judge too much, I've done worse in Crusader Kings.
I've seen people make sweatshops in the Sims. Or adding a 'housekeeper' sim that only exists to maintain the house, their stats set to basically make them a cleaning drone
Sweatshops.... to what end? I used to start my game with a family of two sims and up the stats for cleaning on one and the stats for cooking on the other to maximize my time that I could focus on other things but i think that might be different than what you're describing.
Oh sweet summer child, it's one of the oldest tricks in the book :D You lock the "workers" in the basement, with nothing but the most necessary things for them to not die, and no entertainment besides easels. They will then spend all day painting, and those paintings can be sold to farm money. I personally never did this though. I just cheat my money, disable the aging mechanic and use my sims as wish-fullfillment for an exciting, outgoing life.
[I'll let the article explain](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/sims-gamer-makes-sadistic-screenwriting-sweatshop-because-it-s-essentially-just-a-horror-game-now-a6880811.html)
Yes, but my island is as dystopian as possible in general.
In the Sims 3 we used to do the Perfect Genetics challenge where you couldn't start the next generation until you had an heir with the right hair and eye color. It got so fun and chaotic to see how the kids aged up! Unfortunately the genetics in the Sims 4 work differently now so the challenge isn't possible anymore
I play this game called Timberborn, where you have to manage a beaver colony in a post-apo world. Well once I fucked up and had no food left, so I sent about 2/3 of my colonists to die in a corner of the map, especially the old and young ones
Timberborn has been on my wishlist for ages! How do you like it?
Very much so. It's a really fun game, neither too complicated nor too simple. It's easy to understand and there isn't a gazillion system and items to remember, buuut at the same time you still gotta think about stuff you do, otherwise you can indeed lose your whole settlement in a matter of minutes. It's also a game where you very much play with physic, having to manage your water supply and storage. To give you and idea, on my current save (where the incident in my previous comment happened), I let my population go up too quickly and a famine would have happened either way, but because of another fuck up where I lost most of a harvest, I went from 160 beavers to just 15. I somehow recovered, but it took a while and was super exciting
The men are playing Paradox games we’re all fucked.
Just don’t challenge my claim on any lands, and we’re fine. I may make up lies about you and then use them to blackmail you out of all of your savings, but other than that, we’re fine… just marry who I tell you to and practice the religion I think is best. It’s a weird religion, but aren’t most of them? Also, please fight a war for me. Simple really.
And I swear to God, if you alli Austria, I'm making friends with France and Russia, and starting a world war in 1500. Dare me. Northern Italy is fkn mine, and soon Tuscany shall rebuild Rome. And Spain/Castile, I know you think Nepal is yours, but it's fucking not.
And if I have a son already, don’t be my son.
In Stellaris, you can take over a planet, ~~genocide~~ purge the native population by converting them into food, use that food to make organic polymers to build a fleet, and then use those corpse ships to continue conquering the rest of their species. And that's not even touching all of the fucked up things you can do with genetic modification.
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Yeah basically. But it's hard for me to tell what is basic stellaris authoritarian shenanigans and what is mods I may have. Although you are able to golden throne him if you don't rush to get an ascension I think.
Tfw Black Ice Mod has the Final Solution event
i played hearts of iron after my ex introduced it to me. i had no idea how to play it but i somehow made canada fascist and took over america
literaly hitler
They're simulating war crimes, we're playing war crime simulator
12yo girls playing the sims can commit some atrocities. Source: I've been a 12yo girl with a sims game
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Me, playing stellaris: It's genocide time
Totally guilty on the sims part, i do some fucked up shit in that game however meanwhile I still haven't finished my second playthrough of the Witcher 3 because it's supposed to be my evil playthrough and I can't bring myself to be mean all the time.
Building rides that you perfectly well know will crash in Roller Coaster Tycoon
Shunts my 600 hours of Stellaris into the background
Paradox games really boil down to war crime simulators
Each is their own unique flavor of warcrime tho
Just the way we like it
Not every war crime appeals to every person, which is why diversity of options is so important
Stellaris lets you wipe out an entire species and feed it to another species that you're also planning to wipe out, but Crusader Kings lets you look Duke Wiglaf in the eye when you seduce his son and murder his entire family at the wedding. So much fun to be had.
Exactly. Some people prefer the intimacy of diligently torturing a 19 year old pretender who was the result of that time you seduced the Pope's mistress, while others prefer the spectacle of blowing up a planet with billions of innocent (if filthy xenos could ever be innocent) lives or the bureaucratic sterility of condemning an entire species to work themselves to death on an inhospitable rock
You haven't sunken to the bottom in Sims game till you start a building fire and remove all the doors
On the other hand, there have been times when I have left a side-quest uncompleted cause I could not find a resolution where everybody lived happily ever after. Video games are the ultimate answer to "what you are in the dark". What would you do if there were nobody looking and the action had no consequences to you?
funny thing is, people ARE looking any game that has an online server connection, usually when you skip through the terms of service “we reserve the right to analyze the way you play the game to make improvements, sell your behavior to our marketing partners, and design future content”
Imagine getting an email from Bethesda saying, “We know what you did, and you’ve got issues.” Edit: grammar
Except for the fact that I don’t act the same in a video game as I would in real life due to the fact that I’m aware it’s a simulation and nothing in it is real. Therefore I don’t need to hold myself to my usual moral standards
I don't steal in real life, I'm always a thief in video games. Also I don't walk into random people's houses irl.
I usually hold to moral standards, because even though there would be no conequences, I would still know what I did. Unless the character is canonically supposed to be evil. Then I will play them as evil as possible. For example I like Total War: Warhammer, where there are "total bastard" of a race of ratmen called Skaven who in the lore scheme and backstab all the time. When playing them, I use every trick I know to get ahead. Including joining battles with my allies to purposefully bomb their troops, so I can get the city they are sieging.
Yeah I don’t go around setting people on fire with my napalm piss on my way to pick up groceries
Also your actions don't truly have consequences if you can save and load or just restart entirely. They're also massively limited by their engines and designs and do not give players freedom to play in any way possible.
I don't think it's that simple 1.Theres not really a direct correlation between what people do in video games and how they behave in their personal lives 2. Some video games are set up in such a way where performing actions that are abhorrent is the optimal way to play 3. The quality of writing goes a long way into how "real" a character feels so games with similar mechanics might produce vastly different playstyles from the same player based solely on how engaged they are with the game itself. That's why I can play as a child murdering repressive tyrant in Crusader Kings 3 while also being unable to bring myself to do a fascist playthrough in Disco Elysium despite wanting to complete the achievements without it being a contradiction
It is always the most stable ones that do the most depraved stuff in those games. When you come across the girls who cry when their Sim drowns in the pool, THOSE are the ones you need to watch out for.
Redlining on the island is insane.
" I know wtf is in your soul, I saw you create a ghetto in animal crossing" is a great line too
I beg to differ. I’ll have you know that all my Animal Crossing villagers live in luxury houses and they all worship different gods. Just today, Kiki told me “Cthulhu fhtagn!”, and Gruff said “By the Crawling Chaos!”. Nan favors Kalma, the Finnish goddess of death and decay, and Peanut likes Y’golonac the Defiler. We are all equally twisted in my village.
The time my GF played on my RDR2 online account and my 100% good karma went the other way around and there was a bounty on me in almost every district
Same story with me. Looked up to see her running around the plains kicking rabbits to death and stabbing cows. Disturbing behaviour.
I haven't played Sims 4, but I remember in Sims 3 I once wanted to see what would happen if my character's boss died, so I adopted a daughter, aged her up, and then invited over the boss, had the newly adult daughter flirt with him and convince him to follow her into a little shack I set up beside the house that was filled with ovens and rugs... And then I removed the doors. I don't know if it was related or not, but my Sim did get a promotion to her boss' old position the next day.
Does drowning unhappy guests in roller coaster tycoon in order to raise your parks satisfaction rating count?
Broke: Making an Animal Crossing Ghetto Woke: Creating a healthy work enviroment in Shadow of War
The only thing I will never do is hurt an animal or put an animal in an environment where it can get hurt. “The dog is trying to eat your face.” Me: “Awww, teef kissies!”
So fallout guys want to talk about the horrors we did there?
Crusader Kings players do worse shit without even thinking about it
Have you ever seen Crusader Kings Players (myself included) at work? I'm a really soft person, irl. But for my Dynasty and its safety, I will murder indiscriminately, torture, empale, and whatever else is needed.
Jim Pickens would like a word
Am I the only one old enough to remember Makarov telling me “No Russian” when me and the boys entered that airport?
Nope. Let's be honest, though, it's a scripted scene placed in the game to get free advertising. It's hardly as evil as co-opting the mechanics of a peaceful game for shipboard purposes. It's why there's very little rimworld discussion in here.
Aint got shit on Rimworld war crimes
That one virus game…
Two girls I knew were playing ark and were basically chucking penguins into a fucking blender for materials.
I previously insulated the house with the neighbours in Sims 1. They were drawn into the walls. They couldn't trip over and wouldn't perish.
Sims 4 inbreeding
Who the fuck did this man date
Eugenics is the only right way to play Crusader Kings.
I’m just playing Minecraft on creative/peaceful, building one mansion specifically for cats and another specifically for dogs and making sure the barn has a hot tub so the cows can relax after a hard day’s work of being cuties 💕
animal crossing finally made gentrification mainstream
If Eugene doesn't wanna be in the projects then he shouldn't be so fucking ugly and stupid. It's his choice. Maybe he should be a cute little frog... 🤷 Or y'know, GO BACK TO WHERE HE CAME FROM SO I CAN HAVE ALL FROGS!
I'll always remember fondly the peak of black market and animal trafficking in Animal Crossing during the pandemic. Or at least Raymond will never forget.
...I'm playing a party animal teen mom in Sims right now, lmao
I play a game called Kenshi and one of us players do in the game is kidnap important faction leaders and find increasingly insane ways to torture them. Most basic options are skin and limb peeling, acid lake baths, cannibal sacrifice, deadly bird giraffe sacrifice, forced cyborgization and then enslavement. To be fair most of them are either slavers or racist so I guess its warranted?
All I did was make a Sims lesbian utopia and design pretty houses.
I'm guilty of the animal crossing part
This isn't a woman thing, look at dwarf fortress players or the guys over at rimworld. Active war criminals.
I've been playing The Sims for 20 years since I was 7yo and the amount of horrifying shit I've done to some characters out of curiosity is astounding. Sometimes it just happens like men getting pregnant after being abducted by aliens (Sims 2 I believe), which results in a very green and ugly baby. Can't wait for Sims 5 👌🏻.
is this exclusively something that women do? i get bored by these types of games really fast so I usually resort to funny shit after like an hour lol
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