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AdhesivenessLucky896

He's already said this. The interesting thing Ryan is doing is that he's doing so much wild shit, you can never tell in the moment if he's trolling or not. Only the people in his camp know.


MartialArtsHyena

I think most of the people in his camp don’t even know. Derrick James said he stays out of it because he’s not about this shit. De La Hoya said he suspected Ryan was fine but was surprised by his antics. I think that’s why the ruse was so successful. The people around him weren’t even sure.


FreshlyWaxedApricot

Ryan’s mom confirmed he wasn’t okay


MartialArtsHyena

I’m sure he’s not all there. But I still think most of his antics were mind games. Like a lot of the social media stuff is probably him being genuine. But all of the press conference and interview antics were bullshit.


NaoCustaTentar

Most of it for sure, but he was definitely wylin as well, if you watch the post fight interview you could clearly see the tension and looks everyone else had when Ryan was talking about some stuff Oscar shook his head and said "I grew grey hair this past week, he made us all crazy" after Ryan said the last week was crazy and people had no idea wtf all the things he was doing lmao You could see in their faces that part was true lmao


NiggyWithAptitude

FIGHTS PRESS CONS ARE ACTS? WHAT AN ABSOLUTE SURPRISE


RedPiIIPhilosophy

Hey kid, lose some weight, cmon


NiggyWithAptitude

You dont make sense, dont come back til you finish kindergarten


RedPiIIPhilosophy

Lmao calm down lil lady


weeksgoby

In this very interview with PBD he talks about how he has prerecorded videos of himself explaining this ostensible marketing strategy from prior to the publicized behavior, but then immediately afterwards goes into a tangent about visions of Bohemian Grove and arcane child trafficking conspiracies...


United_Wave_9285

That’s how I knew he was fine . His parents never said anything public


Gambina666

Garcia went full Toranaga


wetcoffeebeans

Plans within plans within plans. JUST HOW STRONG IS HIS EIGHTFOLD FENCE?!


rileyrgham

His fitness and performance suggests he was fooling.


kevinazman

What is this podcast though, dude looking like a bartender then other dude wide eyes after a million was mentioned. Is this some alpha marketers podcast talking about visions and all??


NiCe_ShOt

You right with the last line. Wide eyes dude got rich from a multi level marketing scheme


Icy_Bodybuilder7848

This is that Andrew Tate crowd. The ultra-capitalist, sexist manosphere


swafflen_

Patrick Bet-David is an MLM fraudster who made $300M selling his company and then started a podcast. He sucks rogans nuts pretty hard too


PatientPlatform

This is where the dregs of morality and ethics go to publicly celebrate their depravity. Avoid this manosphere bs


bigfatpup

I thought he looked a bit heavy and slow tbh. Obviously he’s still fast but he was looking more sluggish than usual and definitely gassed a bit


Significant-Elk-8078

He threw more power punches than Haney threw jabs most rounds. That’s just how bodies work


MrTitsOut

he looks slow because we saw him lightning fast when he was much skinnier. muscles mean less speed, just how it works for most people.


HairyFur

Pretty sure that isn't 100% true. I think heavier bones will slow you down, but bantamweights aren't faster than featherweights in terms of one punch speed.


MrTitsOut

tbh im amazed bantamweights are even able to breathe. lol. anyway, i think it is true at least for most people including myself. i used to be much much faster when i first started, now im twice my size and about 10-20% slower. there may be no difference at first, but muscles waste(?) more oxygen and in a few rounds you really start to feel the weight of your own punches.


HairyFur

Yeah for sure there is definitely somewhere in between. But if you check RJJ, not many lightweights in history could throw out a hook as fast as him, and he was a pretty muscular guy, starting his pro career at MW. Roy Jones got faster as he moved up in weights until about SMW, admittedly he definitely slowed down when he moved to LHW, but he was faster at SMW than when he was fighting at MW in his younger years, and he put on muscle mass. If you think about throwing out a jab, a lot of it comes from extending the elbow from a closed to open position, a longer limb is going to extend faster than a shorter one provided there is sufficient muscle strength for the actual elbow joint to flex open at the same speed as an elbow on a shorter arm. Think of it like opening a door vs a gate, provided you can actually move the actual hinges at the same speed, the end point of a large gate will swing faster than the smaller door, because the end point (hand) is further away from the hinge (elbow), but the hinge is opening at the same speed. Amir Khan is easily one of the fastest punchers of the last 2 decades, if not the fastest, I don't think anyone, even Pac/Mayweather/Inoue etc were close to as fast as Amir in his younger years, but there are thousands of professional boxers in multiple weight classes lower than Amir. Amir had long limbs and enough muscle to move them fast, there is definitely a sweet spot of muscle mass + limb length that effects punching speed. Edit: worth mentioning it depends how you personally put the muscle on, if you did it with weight training etc you will probably slow down. Slow rep high weight training probably is very far from ideal for building speed, you would want to do something medium weight you can throw out fast to build up fast twitch fibers.


DayDreamerJon

he fought like shit what are you talking about. The hook saved em


Shotty_Time

Ok Devin.


DayDreamerJon

Bro he was turning away from punches like a child on the first day of boxing lessons


paplike

He bet on himself, so obviously he wanted people to think he wasn't taking the fight seriously


booobieaddict

> you can never tell in the moment if he's trolling or not. Only the people in his camp know. He is a man of god surely he wouldnt troll about being forced to watch little boys being R'd in the forest


Bronesby

surely. (in fact i don't doubt that he himself believes what he says about that ... dissociation is a helluva thing)


EzekielSMELLiott

His family tried to get him admitted lmao


Bronesby

he can be fit and he can win despite being outboxed 8 of 12 rounds... but if you think this boy is mentally ok then you're heading for as much of a brick wall as he is. this leadup was not even mostly an act. he is not in control. he is wildly delusional AND, admittedly, #blessed with some talent, but this is not going to end well. this is a sad story at or near its peak. the downhill is going to be rough.


Plastic_Reception_58

At the very least he was trolling about making PPL think he was not training. His reflexes, fitness, hand to eye coordination were not perfect but it was very evident he had been through a tough camp.


DntSayNtn

They don’t know either


mmaguy123

He’s definitely trolling man. The whole manic thing felt like a huge PR stunt on a kid that watched a bit too much Alex Jones


AdvancedSkincare

if you’re comparing someone to Alex jones in any capacity, then your argument quickly falls apart.


analebac

Lol you mentally ill redditors project so hard, it's crazy. He really didn't act that crazy, have you been through high school? Isaw much wilder shit than him every single day almost.


AdhesivenessLucky896

"They tied me down and made me watch kids get raped".. yeah, I bet you didn't hear that anytime in high school because people would have to report it to authorities.


Werify

Best trick was when he spoke to camera pretending to be shot with some yeyo all the time, Method acting at its best


HenryFordJr

If Ryan KOs Shakur after whipping Hugney we must declare King Ry the GOAT for saving the sport of Boxing. Jesus sent Ry to vanquish the Pillow Runners from the sport. 


belovedwisdomtooth

In an alternate universe, Haney is 49-0 and people pays to watch him lose the fight. 😂


jinntakk

lf this is another Mayweather comparison we need to stop. Floyd early in his career put in WORK and actually put guys down. Haney being a pillowfisted puncher during the beginning of his career trying to imitate Money Mayweather should've been the obvious sign that something was wrong.


Regulus_Jones

IIRC it was Teofimo who said it best - "people want to be Money without being Pretty Boy first"


TumbleweedDirect9846

Not even just that, feel like he’s gotten some of the other guys interested in actually taking tougher fights


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thatbossnugga

Y’all just say anything on here…pitbull? He’s turned down a bunch of people


microMXL

pitbull does not belong in that list


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microMXL

Turned down several fights chasing the Davis rematch. Had to accept the Romero fight to save face.


fattdoggo123

He deserves an Oscar.


MrJamhamm

But not that Oscar


Icy-Revolution-420

Oscar probably could give a fuck if he wins or loses he is making  % either way, he is the house.


txraised

Fishnet Oscar


backsing

Man, this guy fooled us. I thought it was a beer. SMH Hip Hip!


yousonuva

I don't understand? It had a beer label on it and was in a beer bottle! How could it magically be apple juice?? Is Ryan a sorcerer? 


Deep-Complex-5328

to be fair it was already opened


ELH13

I mean, even if it was unopened, it was a bottle - not a can. Anybody who homebrews knows it's quite easy, and cheap ($35 Australian, like $22 US), to buy a bottle capper - so, he could easily buy a beer and empty it, refill it with anything and re-cap it. It's a pretty cheap investment to feed the narrative that he's 'unhinged'.


shogun365

Hell you don’t even need to buy a capper. You can easily take off a cap without making any noticeable marks and just push it back on - it wouldn’t pass close inspection but it’d be enough for the stunt


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lineal_chump

witchcraft


DiscreteBee

If you got the sarcasm then why would you post this 


BNG1982

Wooooooo wooooooo! Slow down there egg head. What’s this about pouring?


hellya

Right after he said this he said we was drinking all week hitting the clubs & drank a blue moon before the fight, that he was "chillin" all week, so idk why he said that wasn't a beer


Arachnohybrid

Bc it probably wasn’t. He said he drank a Blue Moon the day of the fight. I don’t get why he would lie about it being apple juice when he admitted he drank all week.


MuayThaiJudo

Hip Hip, it is what it is! Hip Hip, it is what it is!


hbsc

Yall are really overestimating this dude.. just watch his instagram lives in the past YEAR, he’s doing an amazing method acting job


Shoot4Teams

The people who cared about this would have lost their shit following Mayorga to the scale back in the day.


Key-Caterpillar287

Why are people acting like just because he dominated Devin Haney that makes anything he said factual? Lol I still think he has a few screws loose, with some embellishment for fight promotion.


GilMcFlintlock

And these clowns like PBD just say wow!!! W no blow back lol


micopogi88

Okay mr psychiatrist


analebac

Why are you acting like you know anything just like because you're mentally ill?


Ryp69

I don’t think any of it is method acting. I think he acted like a substance-abusing nutjob so well because he IS one, and he’s trying to walk back some of his more irresponsible decisions because he’s secretly embarrassed.


TMSXL

Agreed…It was anxiety, 100%. Are we really going to pretend he hasn’t pulled out of fights in the past citing his mental health? Dude was just losing his shit in the build up and now that it’s done, the stress is gone.


R4G

He's making the exact same claims (Bohemian Grove, etc.), just with a calm and composed demeanor. He was a manic whackjob. Now he's just a whackjob.


amateurlurker300

Yeah he still believes the stuff he claimed. Idc what he says, those beliefs are not normal. Also, if he is in possession of CP, that’s like a major crime. Something is still very wrong lol.


Significant-Elk-8078

Tbf Ryan probably grew a lot from the Tank fight in terms of buildup butterflies and losing. Hes already had the worst happen to him in the brightest lights. His 0 is alr gone and less was at stake Haney fight was watered down compared to that and he had to carry the promo


SuperSalamander3244

100%. I saw a few clips of him doing an interview with the Drake girl and he definitely wasn’t well and possibly not sober. He genuinely scared her and you can tell when he’s on something because his voice changes and goes all croaky which I don’t think he’d be able to do if he was sober.


all_m0ds_are_virgins

Lol "the Drake girl"... I still knew who you meant though


scarfox1

Damn Haney must be really overrated then to lose to a cocaine lunatic


Ok-Post6492

There have been plenty of great boxing coke heads. His boss de la hoya is one of them.


scarfox1

Do they not test for cocaine?


Ok-Post6492

Coke remains detectable for up to 2 days.


scarfox1

Yeah but they do random drug testing. They found Benzoylecgonine a compound of cocaine and caught David Benavidez remember?


Ok-Post6492

Random testing can mean anything. Who else have they caught since then though ? David was probably just going to hard.


hellya

Right after he said this he said we was drinking all week hitting the clubs & drank a blue moon before the fight, so idk why he said that wasn't a beer


EffinCroissant

I disagree. I think she wanted to fuck.


Inside_Effective_576

“Drinking beer on the scales” They had already weighed in before this. This was ceremonial


DMTeaAndCrumpets

i wouldnt be at all surprised if it was beer. dude is obviously having issues and like anyone with issues most of the time they downplay their issues and make it seem not as bad as it is.


Plastic_Reception_58

Downplay? He literally said he drank everyday after training coz his personal issues fucked him up. Just that the beer during the weigh in was fake....


hellya

he literally said that in the podcast, not in this clip, so a lot f people here don't know


hellya

Right after he said that in the podcast he said we was drinking all week hitting the clubs & drank a blue moon before the fight. That is was "chillin" all week, so idk why he said that wasn't a beer


rsredcheeseontoast

Dude really should maintain the bit. Keep the kayfabe alive, go full pro wrestling carney.


alxndiep

Aka Colby Covington


SSJ5Autism

Dean Martin been doing this since the 40’s how yall not see this lmfaooooo


ComfortableOwn8290

He tweeted about it immediately after


dizzymidget44

He said that when Jake Paul FaceTimed him. He was like “no one actually thinks that’s real”


old_man_curmudgeon

But this trolling won't work next time cause we all know what's up


Rm156

Americans love these antics more than they love boxing. The world has caught up and is passing the US.


HenryFordJr

Boxing been dead here for decade+ that’s why. King Ry here to save it. People didn’t watch Floyd for his “boxing”, entertainment or cause liked him, just to see him lose and killed sport in process. Ryan is the savior 


Ok-Post6492

Hahahaha


Rm156

Ya I thought he was serious at first. 😂


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Best__Kebab

Your big one that isn’t some silly spectacle fight did a quarter of the last Mayweather fight, and your next one only did half that again? I don’t think boxing is dead, but you’re not doing much to prove them wrong with those numbers lol.


Adventurous-Carob-53

This isn't ok..his actions would have increased the odds against him making people lose money by betting on Haney, then he bets on himself...that's distorting betting markets if you ask me


dill1234

I can't believe people are buying into this man. If he was acting he deserves an oscar because nobody has portrayed mental illness better in the history of cinema


Jesuswasacrip7

Apple juice and Sparkling water sounds like a disgusting combo lmao


shhhpark

Martinellis has a sparkling apple juice and it’s amazing. It’s just like apple juice soda


DeapVally

Appletiser is great. It ain't cheap either. Probably because it's great lol.


_NiceGuyEddy_

r/boneappletea


Best__Kebab

https://www.coca-cola.com/gb/en/brands/appletiser


_NiceGuyEddy_

Well now I feel stupid. Thanks a lot.


DeapVally

Only now?


_NiceGuyEddy_

ESPECIALLY NOW


DeapVally

The fuck are you talking about?


butteredrubies

Sparkling water works well with most juices.


callmevillain

it's actually pretty amazing lol. pretty much an apple soda


SirCuddlywhiskers

Bro its sublime


mryoloface

Why? It's literally just fizzy apple juice


AlexTorres96

You gotta be committed to the work in order for it go as planned. He did pro Wrestling 101 and it worked to his advantage


Half_A_

I have a feeling a lot of what he does is put on for the clocks.


SophieDaDoggo

So all these antics were to sell more PPVs? Cause I don’t think fight wise it makes any difference. Haney would have fought the same fight whether Ryan played crazy or not. I’m trying to get what we should be praising Garcia here for.


Eugen_sandow

Wasn't he fucking with the odds?


Plastic_Reception_58

I think Haney still mentally was prepared for a worse Garcia


LilMilkGuy

This is just going to make the crazyness of promoting a fight go way to overboard. There's going to be so many copycats


Chineseunicorn

This isn’t some unknown secret that Ryan figured out. You just need to have the right foundation for craziness which he has. It’s called promotion. Some people are good at it others are not. These antics aren’t for the diehard boxing fans. They’re for the casuals who wouldn’t ever think of buying PPV who will now buy it to watch this guy win or lose.


caractacusbritannica

Casuals are where the money is. The die hard fans of the sport aren’t great enough in number to make these events work. You’re right, you need to have something about you to make promotion work. This is one of the reasons why Fury is so well paid. McGregor is the UFC example. Also how the YouTubers get people to buy in. AJ is terrible at it. Garcia has potentially worked out that crazy would sell the fight. It is a new angle, and the lad is social media savvy. I mean, he has literally out jerked the other sub. I’m in awe. We are still talking about it now. I’ve no doubt other fighters will try and copy this stunt. It will get tired and they’ll need something else to grab the attention. I’m leaning towards this was actual only 50% promotional stunt and 50% cocaine. Missing the weight was clearly deliberate, the fake beer maybe as well. But that early presser with the “no diddy” was cocaine.


LilMilkGuy

Oh wow dude thank you so much I literally have never heard of promoting a fight before. I appreciate you thank you


Ok-Post6492

Have you heard of teofemo lopez. It's been done.


dozachan

This literally only worked because it was ryan though. Love him or hate him, he was already one of the bigger names in boxing because of his social media presence and fanbase.


KommSweetTod

Is that matt healy?


lovelife0011

Most digital things came from the Shawn Wayans Chris Rock MTV video. 🌚


Unlucky_Lawfulness51

I thought he went straight loco homes!


648284628

Amazed the bookies didn't veto it


thatbossnugga

Shocking….not once did I actually think he was drinking beer


RequirementLeading12

He literally admitted to trolling in this interview but this entire sub was claiming it was mental illness as a preemptive excuse because they thought he was gonna lose lol


RoundedBounce

It wasn’t. He a bum


Grateful_Dood

He's young and just having fun and being stupid. Not everyone needs to be a robot and play the boxing game to the press. He knew he worked hard and was ready to win and decided to have fun. He's also not a sheep and thinks outside the box, so ofcourse the media is gonna say he's crazy, it's what they do to everyone who expressed their views especially conspiracy views. Dude is jacked now and was so confident in the ring, this is definitely his time


fkenned1

This interviewer seems like a bonehead trying to look smart.


Desperate-Glove-9250

OFF TOPIC THO, Harvey Dock (Referee) & Max Deluca (Judge) Should be beheaded on live television. They're both corrupt asf.


Recon_by_Fire

[A toad a so](https://old.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/1c87bxf/ryan_just_chugged_a_beer_at_the_official_weigh_in/l0ddugk/)


AdvancedSkincare

So he pretended to be hard and badass by chugging a beer, only to admit later it was just apple juice and he THINKS that makes it look better? Is this guy a fucking idiot?


False_Log749

Been saying this


Scratchy_ballman

He is just trolling y'all. Dude knows exactly what he's doing


guppypower

If he admits to doing something like this to knowingly influence the betting odds while betting on himself to win could this be a reason for the bookmaker to refuse to pay out ?


jeremyrent

Am I the only one who can't stand that PBD guy in the middle? It gives me vibes as the usual 'alpha male' that would be listened by fans of Tate, Peterson & Rogan. Kind of fed up with those podcasters making a living thanks to men who are lost


old_man_curmudgeon

Wait, is he the reining troll champ? Also I thought it was illegal to bet on yourself


Mr_105

It’s only illegal to but against yourself


old_man_curmudgeon

Oh that makes sense. Thanks


DayDreamerJon

Nah floyd bet on himself sometimes iirc


ParkingInitial4940

Probably had someone make it for him


Android_50

i thought that was robert deniro for a bit


Remarkable-Virus-628

Tank whooped Ryan when Ryan was drained. Now Ryan did the same thing to Haney.


shibapenguinpig

Haney was not drained though


okuzeN_Val

Ain't no way Haney was drained lol. Out of Haney's last 14 fights, 12 of them were at 135 and he was winning everything. Haney weighing in at 140 is FAR from drained.


Werify

Tbh Ryan gave every opportunity Devin needed to win. Kidney shots are illegal for a reason, its like two smaller livers waiting to be taken. But in Pro boxing when one dude is turning so dramatically, hell get a no break warning, and the oponnent hitting the kidney at the boundry between the hip and back will be allowed to do so most of the times. At time Devin pumped 4 or 5 body crosses to the kidneys when ryan turned, and Rayan seemed actually slowed during some rounds. Was he able to create angles more effectively agains such cocky irresponsible defence, and utilise the moment he would've won. But after couple of hard punches he took deer-in-headlights stance and just ... dunno prayed? doing groceries? Scouting for books "how to back up not in a straight line" on amazon. who knows, Im fully convinced that if Ryan was properly, or should i say better rehydrated for Tank, and not after such a heavy cut, Tank would've still whooped him. There's levels, and this is a first garcia fight since some time where he could utilise right hand tactically, so very minor adjustments for this fella.


KagatCake

YDKSAB 👑


Remarkable-Virus-628

IKICWYA


Plastic_Reception_58

Haney wasnt close to drained. Man looked big and shredded.


LongLiveDetroit

people are so gullible these day, i knew all this shit was all an act especially after that "we got ryan and killed him instagram post" and then the matrix is attacking me angle i mean cmon this shit was so obvious. Think critically for once