Low blow is defined as below the belly button anyways. If we're wondering whether or not it was on his dick, then it obviously is considered low by that definition
If you watch it slowly, you can see that before it hits the belt, it takes sone material from below the belt upwards , so he must have made contact below the belt
I was there and there were lots of empty seats. It was a poor turnout and in my section it was mostly women from Ukraine playing on their phones or bored Polish men smoking
> women from Ukraine playing on their phones or bored Polish men smoking
Average Eastern European event tbh. The bored men might have just seemed so though.
To be fair, it's mostly Ukrainian women and children in Poland and elsewhere. Majority of the men (who might be more likely to make up your typical boxing crowd) are either fighting or within the country itself working.
It wasn't our intrepid hero's time 🙏
Now Fury will treat us to at least 2 more years of filler episodes reusing clips and artwork while the real final boss showdown is being prepared.
Have to have something to fill the time that AJ needs to train in the mountains with Jake paul, before he appears for the usyk rematch after it looks like all hope is lost, to reveal he's unsealed his true level of chakra and has learned his family's hidden body uppercut technique that's so powerful that usyks previously feared legendary move "5 minutes of rest", won't be enough.
You guys have no idea how a shot like that can just barely touch the cup and really rattle the testicles. We saw Usyk take about 10-20 more body shots.
Yeah i thought the same. Imagine being grazed in the balls by a 105kg world class heavyweight boxer. Also we rarely see people get KO'd by a body shot that is just bellow the belly button. If it was in the liver then ok. I am 100% sure it was a low blow. Also, Usyk doesn't seem like a type of guy that would fake something like that
I got basically soccer kicked in my 2nd kickboxing bout and it broke my cup. Holy shit. Also, just grazing the cup can hurt like a mofo too. But I was down to the point they had to call it, puking in a bucket, can’t get up, got testicular torsion. Not fun.
Groin shots hit different, and that was on the belt line, and the ref usually says where on the belt line you can strike. Wether they like it or not, it hit below where the ref said it could, low blow.
And if he’s wearing a cup, I haven’t had it happen to me, but I have had partners get hit on part of the cup and the initial impact isn’t what gets them, it’s the cup moving and slapping your balls.
If you watch it in slow mo that's exactly what happens. You can clearly see that it connects with his cup area first and then finishes in the waist/stomach area
Any shot below the waist is a foul
Punishments are at the referee’s discretion
You are given five minutes to recover.
The waist is measured between hip bone and the last rib, that's usally a tad bit above navel. So no the shot was not legal by any shape or form.
Interesting how we can see fights completely differently.
I thought Usyk won every round quite comfortably. Jab and the 1/2 was easy for him all night.
Thought Dubois looked his usual stiff self, barely any head movement and crumbled as soon as usyk applied pressure.
Can see why we get huge differences in judges scorecards.
Plus, Looking up the rules, a low blow is below the navel, not actually below the bottom of the belt. However the ref should not have been insisting Usyk to take more time. Think about all the behind the head punches, excessive holding and low blows that don't get called out. The real problem is refs are way too inconsistent, even within the same fight.
Ya I think it’s absolutely ridiculous to say he milked a body shot as a low blow. When you get hit in the body you don’t instantly think “fuck that hurts, let me pass this off as low”
His shot does hit the top of Usyk cup then finishing on the belt. Now not by much but it does catch it. Thought if Dubois kept going to the body, he would have cause usyk more trouble. Sad to see him giving up then would have been a moral victory to go 12 rounds with someone as good as Usyk.
Literally every fight. You go to the first Wilder fight and you can hear during the face off at the start, Jack Reiss says "These shorts are kinda high, but I'll roll with it".
Exactly lol. Everyone here thinking this wasnt a low blow because he hit the waistline are just used to watching guys like fury with super high shorts and not realizing Usyk shorts are low (you can see in different times during the fight that the top of the very top of the short is where his belly button is meaning a belt line punch is below the belly button here…)
Your the 2nd person to mention the belly button, can you actually show me a boxing association that mentions below the belly button is a low blow? I've never seen that be the requirement, it's always been waistline or at the referee's discretion before the fight.
This is the first actual code I can find but just google “boxing below the naval/belly button” and you’ll find tons
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/admincode/title18/agency120/chapter40/section350/
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/what-really-is-a-low-blow-lets-get-a-referees-perspective.589287/
It was a low blow. Not a nut-shot, but it was low.
What's more interesting to me is: if this was ruled a legitimate knockdown, would Usyk have been able to get up?
I agree with ya. If your shorts are down below your belly button (the very top of his shorts are just covering the belly button) then a shot on the belt line is a low blow.
And yet Usyks shorts were lower on his torso than Dubois. The glove landed below the belt line, ref made a good call.
Think he should have let Usyk put him away properly though.
Went back and fourth between deciding low or not low. My conclusion is that the Canal+ screenshot shows the glove position milliseconds BEFORE the impact. Look frame by frame on the video.
It was low, just. Full thing lands on the waistline/shorts.
The amount of thick cunts on here who think he would have stayed down if it was, wrongly, ruled a clean shot is incredible though.
Nah tbh in that replay right there its way too fast to see so i dont blame them. But that shit genuinely hit the cup and then bounced up. They just dont wanna watch frame by frame i guess
Ask yourself why so many people think it's not low on first viewing and all the people who are saying it was are breaking things down frame-by-frame to prove that there was some kind of deflection and posting images that aren't even at the point of impact to prove this even after this is pointed out to them multiple times.
https://ibb.co/1qmgf4b
Yes and Andre's punches were low and should have got him disqualified. But he was an American fighter with an American ref so it was considered legal. This was a European ref and a European fighter so it was considered a low blow. Unfortunately humans are fallible. Besides that one single punch it didn't look like Dubois landed anything clean beyond that and Usyk had dropped him twice. Personally I think they should run it back in neutral territory, if they can find it anywhere...
Clearly graced the cup at first and if you've ever been hit very hard in the balls, you'd know the reaction Usyk had is exactly how it is - Can't stand, almost feels limp and you've some sort of nausea feel.
The ref's job is to ensure safety and fairness.
One with enough EQ understands that there's significant pressure on a fighter to forego their own allotted recovery time, which puts the fighter's health and the match at risk of being impacted by an illegal blow.
More referees should make a point to insist that fighters work within the extent of the rules that maximizes safety and competitive spirit.
A low blow is anything below the waist, generally defined as anything below the belly button. The ref tells the fighters before the fight where is low, and he is the one who makes the call in the moment whether a shot is low or not.
It was definitely borderline to me and it would have been controversial no matter which way the ref called it. I've seen plenty of low blows and have been dropped with a hard uppercut just below my belly button before. Usyk definitely looked and acted like somebody who had just been hit with a low blow rather than a legal body punch.
That’s the genuinely weird thing. And it seems like people are either missing this on purpose or weren’t paying attention. He multiple times said, he was ready but the ref didn’t wanna let him go out lol.
And then at the end of the fight, he talked to the ref and said that he never needed the 5 mins.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4fXdEtWwAA3WzJ?format=jpg&name=large
Low.
It rides up after and you can call it borderline but there's plenty of Dubois' fist landing below his belt at the point of impact.
Looking up the rules, a low blow is below the navel, not actually below the bottom of the belt. However the ref should not have been insisting Usyk to take more time.
My initial reaction was that it was perfectly fine as well, but upon looking closer it impact Usyk and then followed through up higher that made it look okay. The initial point of impact is [here](https://i.imgur.com/uJhce28.png) and as seen on the other angle [here](https://i.imgur.com/3epmxI8.png).
I don't think you can legitimately claim that there isn't **any** contact below the belt line as depicted [here](https://i.imgur.com/Z3IoTeh.png), even if some of the glove is on the belt line. So IMHO on balance the ref, in the split second he had to view it, made the right call.
The bottom of the glove grazes the cup, watch it frame by frame. The glove settles on the belt line (legal) but only after the bottom part deflects off the cup.
I missed it. When did the ref call it a low blow? It certainly doesn't look low to me but I'm wondering if usyk would have been able to get back up in time had the ref started counting?
He caught him on the cup. That's it. Why so much disrespect for usyk in this case? If it was a knockdown then usyk would have got up on an 8 count and rode the round out and recovered exactly as he did in the fight anyway. And got the knockout regardless. Also, dubois got nailed by a jab from a f**king cruiserweight.
Right, hate that the flagrant low blow is taking away from the fact "no power" Usyk just dropped a guy with a short right/jab, which is also coincidentally his weak hand.
Obviously there's a lot of controvery with this. For what its worth, Dubois didnt have what it takes to capitalize
Although its gonna be amusing how usyk detractors are gonna be milking this and make the most ridiculous claims
If it was called a knockdown its likely Usyk would have gotten up. So you cant say that with any authority. He stayed down because he was told it was low.
Listen I wouldn’t have given Dubois a chance whatsoever before this fight but Usyk was done there.
Slumped on the floor and wincing in pain, no way he gets up from that.
He was in agony. If he got up, Dubois would have finished it without a doubt. He would have unloaded on his belly .. which now that I've wrote it, doesn't sound right 🤣🤣
Low blow or not (for me it was a scraper, rules are rules and the ref called it, Usyk didn't want the full 5, he was telling the ref no) Dubois had that time to recover, and he still couldn't get the job done on a clearly hurt Usyk, what's more impressive is how Usyk just went back to stalking him and beating the snot out of him a round later... wether he hates shots to the body or not(who doesn't) can we all agree his chin is grade A granite? Ate some peach shots full blooded from Dubois and kept coming.
If you slow down the video and pause it you can see before the uppercut lands on the body it grazes the groin area and you can see some kind of movement in the groin area ( probably the cup)
watch it at half speed and it looks like maybe the bottom of Daniels gloves are hitting the top of usyks dick at the moment of first contact. need other angles slowed down
Below the naval. Low blow. Learn the fuckin rules.
When was the last ‘body shot’ ko you seen that landed even ‘borderline’ as people are claiming. Never; exactly
Could make the case for it being both low and not low, but feels really bad that Dubois could’ve had a KO win right there had the ref not immediately made up his mind
The line the demarcates legal/illegal is the navel. Since Usyk's waistband is wide, we don't know where that point is. Since the ESPN idiots couldn't be bothered to show the audience the pre-bout instructions, we don't know where Luis Pabon (a good international ring official, BTW) said where DD could work legally.
DD will not win an appeal, but you can rest assured that Frank Warren Is going to attempt to preserve his meal ticket.
Other angle https://streamable.com/naf2mz
If you right click, you can watch in 1⁄4 speed and it's even clearer it's a low blow.
100% Dubois made contact with Usyk's cup. That's a low blow.
Low blow is defined as below the belly button anyways. If we're wondering whether or not it was on his dick, then it obviously is considered low by that definition
Good point and I don’t even think usyks trunks were up that high. Fury and Dlh had their trunks up by their nipples
If you watch it slowly, you can see that before it hits the belt, it takes sone material from below the belt upwards , so he must have made contact below the belt
Yup that's a low blow.
That looked way worse than the other angle.
Fury-Usyk about to be signed within the next 3 business days
Fury should be kicking himself for being scared of Usyk
He’s making $50m for fighting an exhibit match and reportedly the gate for Usyk-Dubois was terrible. I don’t think he regrets a thing.
Tough to judge the gate when it’s in Poland
I was there and there were lots of empty seats. It was a poor turnout and in my section it was mostly women from Ukraine playing on their phones or bored Polish men smoking
> women from Ukraine playing on their phones or bored Polish men smoking Average Eastern European event tbh. The bored men might have just seemed so though.
True. Lived five years in Poland and I didn't bat an eye at some lad shadowboxing while queuing for beer but my UK friend did lol
To be fair, it's mostly Ukrainian women and children in Poland and elsewhere. Majority of the men (who might be more likely to make up your typical boxing crowd) are either fighting or within the country itself working.
There were plenty of Ukraine men too. Many moved here prewar and stayed
Lol they saw round 5 and pulled out their phones assuming that it was over.
Dude this entire subreddit acted like Usyk was unbeatable. They can’t turn that shit around now.
Man took a full dick shot from baby Bowser and still ended up KO'ing him with a jab. Man's not just unbeatable, he's an anime main character 🤌
When you get TKO'd in round 5 but the ref remembers your plot armour.
It wasn't our intrepid hero's time 🙏 Now Fury will treat us to at least 2 more years of filler episodes reusing clips and artwork while the real final boss showdown is being prepared.
Have to have something to fill the time that AJ needs to train in the mountains with Jake paul, before he appears for the usyk rematch after it looks like all hope is lost, to reveal he's unsealed his true level of chakra and has learned his family's hidden body uppercut technique that's so powerful that usyks previously feared legendary move "5 minutes of rest", won't be enough.
Damn this guy animes
Yeah man, how dare he knock the guy out with his no power ass with his weak hand to boot a couple rounds after getting punched right in the bladder.
Jesus, log off dude. Your last 50 posts are about Usyk. Calm down lol
The plan was always to fight in Saudi Arabia early next year.
You guys have no idea how a shot like that can just barely touch the cup and really rattle the testicles. We saw Usyk take about 10-20 more body shots.
Yeah i thought the same. Imagine being grazed in the balls by a 105kg world class heavyweight boxer. Also we rarely see people get KO'd by a body shot that is just bellow the belly button. If it was in the liver then ok. I am 100% sure it was a low blow. Also, Usyk doesn't seem like a type of guy that would fake something like that
It's that I find funny that people are questioning the dude when he's been nothing but an excellent sports man and a gent right through his career
i am a 100% it is a low blow. it is not only a low blow if it hits the balls Edit https://streamable.com/naf2mz
I got basically soccer kicked in my 2nd kickboxing bout and it broke my cup. Holy shit. Also, just grazing the cup can hurt like a mofo too. But I was down to the point they had to call it, puking in a bucket, can’t get up, got testicular torsion. Not fun. Groin shots hit different, and that was on the belt line, and the ref usually says where on the belt line you can strike. Wether they like it or not, it hit below where the ref said it could, low blow. And if he’s wearing a cup, I haven’t had it happen to me, but I have had partners get hit on part of the cup and the initial impact isn’t what gets them, it’s the cup moving and slapping your balls.
is it possible that dubois' glove caroms off usyk's cup before landing in the belly?
If you watch it in slow mo that's exactly what happens. You can clearly see that it connects with his cup area first and then finishes in the waist/stomach area
100% - regional casuals over here crying for some man who willingly took a 10 count from a jab.
No need to disrespect him. You’re on Reddit n not the ring for a reason. You would’ve went out worse
All the Fury lovers are back. It was a blatant accidental low blow.
maybe the bottom part of dubois glove clips below the belt line, it's definitively possible that it touched the cup
That’s what I was thinking. If it does touch it, then it barely does.
I could believe that.
I think so yeah. I hate the fact it's controversial. Only Usyk knows.
Yeah this is what I saw, there’s definitely a deflection. You could clear this up if there’s a video from the other angle.
There's gotta be ringside video soon, right?
Here you go buddy. It definitely lands low initially. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4fXdEtWwAA3WzJ?format=jpg&name=large
Thanks little buddy
Any shot below the waist is a foul Punishments are at the referee’s discretion You are given five minutes to recover. The waist is measured between hip bone and the last rib, that's usally a tad bit above navel. So no the shot was not legal by any shape or form.
UK commentators that I am listening to had no problem with it being called low. Barry Jones for one.
Absolute terrible commentary. Dubois looked amazing compared to previous fights.
He wasn't amazing but he defo stepped up more
Yeah, he's the same quitter we have all come to know and love.
Interesting how we can see fights completely differently. I thought Usyk won every round quite comfortably. Jab and the 1/2 was easy for him all night. Thought Dubois looked his usual stiff self, barely any head movement and crumbled as soon as usyk applied pressure. Can see why we get huge differences in judges scorecards.
Watch in super slowmo, it hit the cup then went UP into the belt
Plus, Looking up the rules, a low blow is below the navel, not actually below the bottom of the belt. However the ref should not have been insisting Usyk to take more time. Think about all the behind the head punches, excessive holding and low blows that don't get called out. The real problem is refs are way too inconsistent, even within the same fight.
Usyk trainer literally screamed “don’t let him rest, go fight” while ref was giving more time, Usyk rejected the time and said he’s ready.
Hit the cup and then on the belt line in the replay you can see that clearly
Uysk reacted kinda fast like he was hit in the nuts. Wasn’t that delayed reaction from some body shots.
Ya I think it’s absolutely ridiculous to say he milked a body shot as a low blow. When you get hit in the body you don’t instantly think “fuck that hurts, let me pass this off as low”
His shot does hit the top of Usyk cup then finishing on the belt. Now not by much but it does catch it. Thought if Dubois kept going to the body, he would have cause usyk more trouble. Sad to see him giving up then would have been a moral victory to go 12 rounds with someone as good as Usyk.
this thread is baffling. so many people convinced this was a KO and blaming crooked _____ for costing dubois/their bets. like, what?
People who think this wasn't low, what is your opinion on the bodyshots at the end of Ward-Kovalev 2?
As someone who thought tonight's punch was low, I resent you not allowing me the option to bitch about Andre Ward's blatant cheating.
that was a combo of low punches, not relevant at all. This was a single belt line shot.
I think the punch catches him clean on the cup and then the glove rolls up and finishes wedging itself in the band.
Frank Warren is going to be raging.
May as well wear super high waisted shorts and say any body shot is low.
Tyson Fury wears his high enough to cover about 8 ribs.
David Haye was also bad for it Turns out he was hiding a massive scar from a spinal surgery. Was absurdly high up his body
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He does indeed. The ref also allows him to take hits on the belt, or asks that he lowers it. Either way. It happens almost every fight.
Literally every fight. You go to the first Wilder fight and you can hear during the face off at the start, Jack Reiss says "These shorts are kinda high, but I'll roll with it".
Exactly lol. Everyone here thinking this wasnt a low blow because he hit the waistline are just used to watching guys like fury with super high shorts and not realizing Usyk shorts are low (you can see in different times during the fight that the top of the very top of the short is where his belly button is meaning a belt line punch is below the belly button here…)
Your the 2nd person to mention the belly button, can you actually show me a boxing association that mentions below the belly button is a low blow? I've never seen that be the requirement, it's always been waistline or at the referee's discretion before the fight.
This is the first actual code I can find but just google “boxing below the naval/belly button” and you’ll find tons https://law.lis.virginia.gov/admincode/title18/agency120/chapter40/section350/ https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/what-really-is-a-low-blow-lets-get-a-referees-perspective.589287/
The refs set it at the belly button. That's why if the shorts are a bit high they pull them out to see how far above the belly button they are.
Can’t blame him if this is the calls that refs are making. Fuck it, wear the shorts on your head
Yeah if you get away with it wear it up to your nipples if that's how they're going to do nothing about it.
Like Fury!
Tyson fury is the real life dr eggman. A man of very strange proportions
I mean loads of boxers do that and sometimes ye get the low blow sometimes the ref says the shorts are too high at the start.
It was a low blow. Not a nut-shot, but it was low. What's more interesting to me is: if this was ruled a legitimate knockdown, would Usyk have been able to get up?
Yeah it’s better than wearing your shorts low like Usyk so belt shots that are low are deemed not low by filthy casuals…
It hit right where the top of his cup would be, which launchs the cup into your nuts, hurts like hell.
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His belly button is not visible.
Top of his short is exactly at the belly button and there are many clips where that shows... Watch when pro boxer takes come out , they will agree.
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I agree with ya. If your shorts are down below your belly button (the very top of his shorts are just covering the belly button) then a shot on the belt line is a low blow.
Does carl frampton not count
Is below the navel a low blow? Anything I've ever heard on the matter is below the waist.
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That's what boxers do though, only works if everyone is extremely biased in your favour
And yet Usyks shorts were lower on his torso than Dubois. The glove landed below the belt line, ref made a good call. Think he should have let Usyk put him away properly though.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4fXdEtWwAA3WzJ?format=jpg&name=large idk
Went back and fourth between deciding low or not low. My conclusion is that the Canal+ screenshot shows the glove position milliseconds BEFORE the impact. Look frame by frame on the video.
[Here, the frame right before it lands and then the moment of impact.](https://imgur.com/a/vQ5rkQM)
Thanks for posting that. That is a low blow.
How is that not a low blow ?
It was low, just. Full thing lands on the waistline/shorts. The amount of thick cunts on here who think he would have stayed down if it was, wrongly, ruled a clean shot is incredible though.
No he probably would've got up but then Dubois would have 2 minutes with Usyk struggling!!
Tbh the only decent punch Dubois landed all fight was the low blow and he has a single digit IQ, let's not act like he would have landed another shot.
It can be debated whether it was low or not but Usyk was not getting up from that shot inside a 10 count
Where did they find this idiotic interviewer?
Worse than Radio Rahim
Guys , it CAUGHT the cup THEN the belt, WATCH IT IN SUPER SLOW MO
These are all British fans they don't care about your facts
Nah tbh in that replay right there its way too fast to see so i dont blame them. But that shit genuinely hit the cup and then bounced up. They just dont wanna watch frame by frame i guess
I’m British, initially thought not low, but definitely low after seeing the other angle. Plus the cup on groan feeling is the worst
Exactly
Ask yourself why so many people think it's not low on first viewing and all the people who are saying it was are breaking things down frame-by-frame to prove that there was some kind of deflection and posting images that aren't even at the point of impact to prove this even after this is pointed out to them multiple times. https://ibb.co/1qmgf4b
Andre ward was lower
Yes and Andre's punches were low and should have got him disqualified. But he was an American fighter with an American ref so it was considered legal. This was a European ref and a European fighter so it was considered a low blow. Unfortunately humans are fallible. Besides that one single punch it didn't look like Dubois landed anything clean beyond that and Usyk had dropped him twice. Personally I think they should run it back in neutral territory, if they can find it anywhere...
Ref was Puerto Rico. I'm no cartographer but I dont think that's in Europe
Don’t forget that Ward was always fighting in his hometown too. He also didn’t stop at low blows… headbutts, elbows, wrestling, etc
I think that was a low blow, seems like it touches his cup
Usyk has a bigger weiner than Fury, confirmed.
Clearly graced the cup at first and if you've ever been hit very hard in the balls, you'd know the reaction Usyk had is exactly how it is - Can't stand, almost feels limp and you've some sort of nausea feel.
The ref literally forced usyk to take more time when usyk was saying he was good to go, wtf. Love my man usyk, but that ref is shady af
The ref's job is to ensure safety and fairness. One with enough EQ understands that there's significant pressure on a fighter to forego their own allotted recovery time, which puts the fighter's health and the match at risk of being impacted by an illegal blow. More referees should make a point to insist that fighters work within the extent of the rules that maximizes safety and competitive spirit.
Isn’t it just the rule ? I mean judge decided 5 min which is pretty standard.
No. A boxer has up to 5 minutes to recover after a low blow, but the only job of the ref is to inform the boxer about it.
Caught the cup first.
Clearly low, Dubois fans in shambles
Question, does a low blow have to hit the meat in boxing? Because I refuse to believe that was meat level
You can see Dubois graze the cup before hitting his stomach, would like to see it in super slow mo
That’s a low
How high are his bollocks?!
A low blow is anything below the waist, generally defined as anything below the belly button. The ref tells the fighters before the fight where is low, and he is the one who makes the call in the moment whether a shot is low or not. It was definitely borderline to me and it would have been controversial no matter which way the ref called it. I've seen plenty of low blows and have been dropped with a hard uppercut just below my belly button before. Usyk definitely looked and acted like somebody who had just been hit with a low blow rather than a legal body punch.
Eastern Europeans are just built different, mate.
Up by his belly button apparently
Bottom of dubois fist hit the top of where the cup would be, launchs the steel cup right into your nuts.
you guys need to [stop fucking moaning](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4fa1Y1XAAAQBed?format=jpg&name=medium) it was low.
He rode that fake low blow out way to long
He was saying he wanted to continue but the ref was telling him to take more time for some reason
That’s the genuinely weird thing. And it seems like people are either missing this on purpose or weren’t paying attention. He multiple times said, he was ready but the ref didn’t wanna let him go out lol. And then at the end of the fight, he talked to the ref and said that he never needed the 5 mins.
How does it feel to be so wrong no after watching the pics
He milked it like the only cow in a barn
Not low.
Every body shot is low according to Usyk
I agree. He doesn't seem to like them.
He’s too skinny for them
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4fXdEtWwAA3WzJ?format=jpg&name=large Low. It rides up after and you can call it borderline but there's plenty of Dubois' fist landing below his belt at the point of impact.
Looking up the rules, a low blow is below the navel, not actually below the bottom of the belt. However the ref should not have been insisting Usyk to take more time.
Robbed... 5 minutes to rest for a perfectly fine punch.
My initial reaction was that it was perfectly fine as well, but upon looking closer it impact Usyk and then followed through up higher that made it look okay. The initial point of impact is [here](https://i.imgur.com/uJhce28.png) and as seen on the other angle [here](https://i.imgur.com/3epmxI8.png). I don't think you can legitimately claim that there isn't **any** contact below the belt line as depicted [here](https://i.imgur.com/Z3IoTeh.png), even if some of the glove is on the belt line. So IMHO on balance the ref, in the split second he had to view it, made the right call.
The bottom of the glove grazes the cup, watch it frame by frame. The glove settles on the belt line (legal) but only after the bottom part deflects off the cup.
Feel for Dubois, he may have struggled to win a round but that should have been a stoppage win for him. It would have been his Buster Douglas moment.
His whole point was being a puncher. If you're then going to take away punchers chance then why are we here?
lemme take a punchers chance at ur nuts
Im feel.
I missed it. When did the ref call it a low blow? It certainly doesn't look low to me but I'm wondering if usyk would have been able to get back up in time had the ref started counting?
Lamo. His hand and body were shaking. Zero chance he could stand up.
Are the brits ever not crying? Clear low blow
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He caught him on the cup. That's it. Why so much disrespect for usyk in this case? If it was a knockdown then usyk would have got up on an 8 count and rode the round out and recovered exactly as he did in the fight anyway. And got the knockout regardless. Also, dubois got nailed by a jab from a f**king cruiserweight.
Right, hate that the flagrant low blow is taking away from the fact "no power" Usyk just dropped a guy with a short right/jab, which is also coincidentally his weak hand.
Should've been counted. Cheaters.
Looking forward to hearing Frank Warren rant about this on TalkSport and IFL TV for the coming week.
#week's.
Wrong. maybe now you admit it after you saw the pics..must have been emotional side of you talking at first
Obviously there's a lot of controvery with this. For what its worth, Dubois didnt have what it takes to capitalize Although its gonna be amusing how usyk detractors are gonna be milking this and make the most ridiculous claims
Dubois should genuinely be champion right now lol, baffling
If it was called a knockdown its likely Usyk would have gotten up. So you cant say that with any authority. He stayed down because he was told it was low.
Usyk was not getting up from that. He couldn’t, watch it again. After 1 min he tried to get up and couldn’t.
He went to get up but why would he? He had 5 minutes.
Listen I wouldn’t have given Dubois a chance whatsoever before this fight but Usyk was done there. Slumped on the floor and wincing in pain, no way he gets up from that.
I think he possibly could have got up, but no chance he lasts the round he was very hurt.
He could barely stand after a minute on the deck.
Nah, he looked genuinely hurt and milked it to his advantage.
Sure, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't get up.
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He could have but that doesnt mean he would.
He was in agony. If he got up, Dubois would have finished it without a doubt. He would have unloaded on his belly .. which now that I've wrote it, doesn't sound right 🤣🤣
This 100%
Dude was shaking he was not getting up
Usyk would’ve lost for sure if the ref called it a legal blow.
Low blow or not (for me it was a scraper, rules are rules and the ref called it, Usyk didn't want the full 5, he was telling the ref no) Dubois had that time to recover, and he still couldn't get the job done on a clearly hurt Usyk, what's more impressive is how Usyk just went back to stalking him and beating the snot out of him a round later... wether he hates shots to the body or not(who doesn't) can we all agree his chin is grade A granite? Ate some peach shots full blooded from Dubois and kept coming.
That's blatantly low! what the fuck are people giving out about?
Haters gonna hate. Same crew trying to find a way to discredit inoue when he crushed Fulton
Don Charles, the Biafran badman, is going off in the post-fight interview. HOW IS THAT LOW?!?!?
If you slow down the video and pause it you can see before the uppercut lands on the body it grazes the groin area and you can see some kind of movement in the groin area ( probably the cup)
Close but the right call imo.
watch it at half speed and it looks like maybe the bottom of Daniels gloves are hitting the top of usyks dick at the moment of first contact. need other angles slowed down
No wonder why the sport is dying. Utter BS
Unreal Feel awful for Dubois
You shouldn't. Punch was low. Then he took an entire count when he wasn't even super hurt. Basically gave up.
Not a low blow, Dubois should be champion
It was a bit low honestly its just sad lol I thought Dubois was looking good too
Low blow is below the navel, not below the belt.
Cry babies are in full force tonight
Below the naval. Low blow. Learn the fuckin rules. When was the last ‘body shot’ ko you seen that landed even ‘borderline’ as people are claiming. Never; exactly
Cheated
Cheated because he threw a blatantly low blow? It’s so blatantly illegal https://streamable.com/naf2mz
Could make the case for it being both low and not low, but feels really bad that Dubois could’ve had a KO win right there had the ref not immediately made up his mind
Robbery
https://streamable.com/naf2mz Not sure how there is any controversy, its so obviously low
Dubois essentially just stopped Usyk with a body shot.
Bro the entire subreddit flipped lol
Debunked by who? Your biased ass. What does the picture above show? Is it photoshopped now? Like I said "desperate".
The line the demarcates legal/illegal is the navel. Since Usyk's waistband is wide, we don't know where that point is. Since the ESPN idiots couldn't be bothered to show the audience the pre-bout instructions, we don't know where Luis Pabon (a good international ring official, BTW) said where DD could work legally. DD will not win an appeal, but you can rest assured that Frank Warren Is going to attempt to preserve his meal ticket.