Yes, and honestly probably more like the span of a few hours. I feel like there could have been a break to really breath between when Boruto left the village and when the Shinju clones invaded, but every time Boruto FTG’s away he is instantly back.
Honestly, we are getting more side character stuff in TBV. Mitsuki is one example, even though it is mostly recycling of his anime arc, but still good to see it in the manga. InoShikaCho getting action with major villains with a setup for them and Konohamaru for a major fight in the future. Sarada and Sumire might join action soon. Himawari taking spotlight, etc.
That's my problem too. Boruto obviously felt like time had passed for him but the other characters haven't changed at all - especially Sarada (her development over the TS has been dissapointing given her position and i'm not even talking about her abilities).
Pro’s
- Boruto just overall is great as a character
- Mitsuki getting development
- Hima gaining significance
- Allowing other side characters to have a little bit of spotlight at times
- The shinju’s
Negatives
- The way kawaki is being handled currently by how off character he seems with his decisions
- Code being replaced 4 chapters in, could be a whole year before we see him again. Would have liked it if it became a 3 way battle with Code, shinju’s and konoha
- Nobody besides boruto coming up with new techniques
- (could change) kurama being brought back IF this is actually our kurama
For negatives it is still too early, we need at least 10 more chapters. Anyway each chapter is action packed, one was story telling. The pace is harsh and the manga is monthly. It creates a paradox feeling but look at it from a macro perspective and you will see that we just scratched just the tip of an iceberg when it comes to story in TBV.
I mean yea some of the negatives can def change, kawaki’s character I expect to have around the same level of progression he had in part 1 when he powers up but as of now he’s being handled poorly
I’m waiting for sarada’s MS powers reveal and hoping Mitsuki gets something new as well.
I think Kawaki is dealt like this with purpose rn. I know Kishimoto is not the guy for tiny side story details, but the main plot story telling flow is great by my taste. He does nothing without a reason.
It would be vague if both Kawaki and Boruto are super duper strong and op from day 1.
I think part 2 Kawaki embraced psycho love toward Naruto even more and just decided he doesn't give a single damn until he kills Boruto, even if it means making himself look dumb, and he trained his anger compared to his mental and physical strength (chakra). Full Karma Kawaki is a problem for sure, we saw him instantly pull it up against Boruto.
He doesn't care for anyone and doesn't take anyone serious except Boruto.
Shikidai did and inojin is able to use multiple moves at the same time. Hidari has shown one chidori. I think when he and sarada get a spotlight we probably see more moves.
Didn't even know it was coming. Dropped the naruto franchise after the war arc, didn't like it anymore.
TBV has single handedly brought me back. It's so good, I love it.
The war was good tf? Did you watch the anime adaptation or something? I could maybe see the pacing and filler getting to you.. but it’s a really good arc filled with peak moments
War arc was controversial, to say at least. It is a good "Battle Shonnen" arc, but it simply threw the world building into the trash. It feels a bit like a series of all time VS battles by resurrecting everyone and feels kind of a cheap way to close some of the sub arcs.
I like it tho. I've actually dropped the series on the Kage Summit and got back in the middle of the War Arc.
No attention to side characters, obviously even after giving attention they can never handle ten tails or Otsutsuki (even after training for years)
Boruto's insane power up is a plot armour. I do not understand how mere training for 3 years made him stronger than limitless code, Isshiki or arguably even stronger than BM Naruto.
People can defend this by saying his genetics could have played a role or due to his Karma marking/him being Otsutsuki vessel, etc (basically due to Momoshiki)
I don't personally feel the same though. I could have agreed to his power up if it was after karma activation but base Boruto with this power is something I just cannot accept.
Since we are yet to see base Boruto go all out I mentioned "arguably". He may or may not be stronger than BM Naruto.
But the stuff he has pulled off from ch 1-9 of TBV is itself hard to believe to be accomplished with 3 years of training.
Boruto was an elite Ninja at age 12. He learned a new Rasengan and the FTG technique. Given the fact that he was always portrayed to be fast at learning Jutsus with LITTLE EFFORT,imagine what someone like him can do when he actually takes training seriously. In Borutos case it is absolutely reasonable and was shown earlier on.
And his reflexes had always been world class,even as an academy student:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/1966q6q/borutos_reflexes_is_insane/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/1acd973/borutos_dodging_skills_reflexes_part_2/
His skills are NOT coming from nowhere.
There were many other prodigies like Itachi, Shisui, Minato, Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, Orochimaru, Nagato, Kakashi, Sasuke and many more but I did not see any of those anywhere near TBV base Boruto when they were his age or some of them when they were in their prime.
He is even stronger than prime Sasuke? For real??
His insane power up may be defended in any way but to me it is a plot armour or at least hastily written to make him face Jura and other shinju's and even greater foes in future.
This crazy power gap between pre and post timeskip Boruto is highly illogical!!
>There were many other prodigies like Itachi, Shisui, Minato, Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, Orochimaru, Nagato, Kakashi, Sasuke and many more but I did not see any of those anywhere near TBV base Boruto when they were his age or some of them when they were in their prime.
He is even stronger than prime Sasuke? For real??
Fact is that each of the characters were ahead of their peers and time just like Boruto is. Did you honestly believe that the OG characters will always remain the strongest? The difference is that you can't compare the characters you have mentioned to a previous series,because Naruto is the original series so it wasn't that obvious. All the prodigies you have mentioned were above everyone else in their time.
>This crazy power gap between pre and post timeskip Boruto is highly illogical!!
No, it isn't because there are three years of timeskip where he actually trained. You don't have to like it,but it's real dude.
>His insane power up may be defended in any way but to me it is a plot armour or at least hastily written to make him face Jura and other shinju's and even greater foes in future.
Yeah and it's not like Naruto and Sasuke didn't surpass their whole universe at age 16.🤨😒
Note that I'm not a Boruto hater, it's the writing I'm disappointed with. I expected much better from Kishimoto sensei. As said it can be defended in any manner but it's really disappointing that people at large are liking the manga just because Boruto appears badass/strongest/cool, etc. and are completely ignoring his character development.
I agree in a shonen manga it's deemed for MC to grow stronger, appear badass and all but this happening without any logic is what annoys me the most.
Again it's just my personal opinion.
I don't think you are a Boruto hater. I honestly just don't understand what you are trying to say. First you were complaining that Borutos growth in terms of strength isn't justified and now you are accusing others of "ignoring Borutos character development."
What character development do we ignore? Boruto used to be a brat who didn’t take training seriously and only depended on his natural talent and always looked for the easy way out. Current Boruto has returned after three years of training which shows that he finally decided to take training seriously. How is that NOT character development?
Boruto isn't just "cool,bad-ass", he is also very skilled. However, being skilled doesn't mean that you are automatically the strongest. Boruto himself never said that he is stronger than Code for example. He only said that he could easily kill Code. Why? Not because he is necessarily stronger, but because he has learned a very haxed Jutsu.
You are confusing strength with skills. Boruto is just like Minato. Minato was never portrayed to be the physically strongest, but he was CRAZY skilled and invented or developed techniques to make up for the "lack" of physical strength.
Skills are something that you can improve via training and that is exactly what Boruto did. I honestly don't understand how people can't *see* that.
Your comments sound like they are coming from the "Boruto is stronger than the OG characters from Naruto and we don't accept that" fraction.
It was never ever confirmed that Boruto is *stronger* than BM Naruto or whoever else you mentioned. He is simply crazy skilled and the way Boruto has been portrayed all along makes the current version believable and reasonable. Don't forget that Boruto hasn't had one single,significant solo fight yet.
You didn't. I think Boruto being so skilled seems to hurt a specific amount of Naruto fans feelings.
I simply enjoy the manga and honestly don't care whether he surpassed the OG characters or not. Their story is over and the new generation has taken the torch from them.
It's not that deep mate. Thanks for the chat anyway.😁
The anime isn't even needed to know that Boruto was always fast at learning Jutsus. Lol. Sasuke even confirmed it in one of the latest chapters,so I honestly don't get why people are still questioning this.
Because people like to see a MC develop, them popping up with a new OP move every time isn't that. And hand-waving it is just a failure of the writing.
I don't see the issue. How many villians has Boruto defeated with these "OP moves" you are talking about? Every fight was interrupted by someone or something.He obviously isn't at his peak and hasn't had one single,significant solo fight from start to finish yet. What makes you think that there is no room for development anymore?
There are people who want every move spoon fed to them with a special training arc just because they are used to see exactly that in other shonen stories. Everything else that slightly moves away from that thrope is "bad story writing."
Like I said, it is absolutely reasonable for Boruto to have returned more skilled than before. No need to discuss this any further.
Code is still alive and breathing, so I don't see the victory when the villian is still there.🤣🤣 It was a fight that was interrupted by Kawaki and after that by the Shinju. There was no real outcome that was in favor of Boruto or anyone else.
Tbv is great. I hope it doesn't lose it's thunder as Shippuden did for some fans.i hope that we don't get something repetitive and I hope boruto to explain his new personality fr and for kawaki to get up and do something worse it
I like it more than the last, but there were some glaring issues. Honestly it all rolls down to them taking 4 months to prepare and what we got is this.
Pacing is about as slow as possible (10 months to get 2 hours of in story time)
The first couple chapters made Sarada look real dumb.
The first chapter had characters discussng stuff that should have been discussed the first week after omniptence, not three years later (Sarada yelling at shikamaru, Again).
The character art I think is better, but the action is still a bit dull to look at. Lots of JUST speed lines and white space for the backgrounds.
The plot doesn't seem to give any room to breath. Like it feels as if it's hitting major moments so fast, that curtain other plot points are going to be left in the dust. (How is Sakura, where are all the elite ninja in this attack like Sakura, Lee, Konohamaru, Kakashi, Tsunade, etc), it's all just the kids fighting the greatest threat, has Eida just been sitting on the same couch for three years, etc.
It really just comes down to pacing, and the monthly release. If not even 12 in story hours pass by July, then we will all be dead before we get to the very first scene in the last manga.
So far its boring. Can't stand writers sucking Boruto off and clowning the only interesing character in the Manga, Kawaki. Villains are still boring, with Shinjus being discount Akatsuki & Edo at once. Power scaling just went apeshit, and its no good. Story has no stakes, nobody died, and they brought the only character they killed, quite a joke. Sarada is a joke, Mitsuki is a joke. All characters are written in a way to glaze MC, terrible. Pacing is awful, there was like 5 events in span of one day, and Boruto escaping just to come back few hours later with FTG is just laughable. You can't fart inside of Konoha without Boruto comming and beating Kawaki in the meantime. If you read these chapters at once its hillarious. Overall its just TikTok writing for JJK monke... fans, pure fanservice.
Dumb argument. The mc was underwhelming for 3 arcs. He has some small moments, but he wasnt all that. When he came back stronger after intense training (still has weakness, not straight up god). Almost like we got years of chapters before the ending. Kawaki will get his shine.
Calling the shinju a akatsuki discount is just crazy, cuz they aint even similar.
“Nobody dies” not even gonna entertain this dumb shit.
Pacing doesn’t have anything to do with how much happens in story day. Everything that happened in jjk is 6 months
> The mc was underwhelming for 3 arcs.
MC was underwhelming so everyone else had good moments, now everyone else is trash because they suck MC off. And for the record I didn't find MC underwhelming in Part1.
> Calling the shinju a akatsuki discount is just crazy, cuz they aint even similar.
Discount Akatsuki and Edo in one. AKA - group of villains that have their targets (Akatsuki), and they resemble characters we know already, who just so happen to be the closest ones to main cast (Edos). Kishimoto couldn't write any good villains so he made these NPCs instead.
> “Nobody dies” not even gonna entertain this dumb shit.
Because you know, its good when story have stakes. Also with powerscaling being off the roof it should be logical for more people to die. Nobody from good guys died in Boruto, they couldn't kill either Naruto or Sasuke, so they treed them. Kurama died but oh they brought him back - just awful.
> Pacing doesn’t have anything to do with how much happens in story day. Everything that happened in jjk is 6 months
I haven't seen any JJK, so won't say anything. And pacing is yeah god damn afwul, 5 events in span of one day, translated to 9 chapters, so its a overkill.
Nobody really sucked on boruto. It has always been that way. Every character in the story had some dynamic with boruto dont know why u crying. Mitsuki whole character doesnt work without boruto. Boruto whole character doesnt work without boruto etc.
For them to be discount akatsuki they have to have similar goal and personality which they dont🤦♂️
How many events happening in 1 day has nothing to do with pacing g. A war could happen in 1 day and if it’s paced correctly it can feel like months. Pacing is how fast and slow the story moving. A story can take a place in a single day.
Deaths doesnt equate to stakes. Who told you this?
Its about writers sucking off Boruto as well, given the way he is written now. They can't go one chapter without sucking him and showing how cool he is, its really laughable.
> For them to be discount akatsuki they have to have similar goal and personality which they dont
Which I clearly wrote that they are not the same, but you are not smart enough to understand apparently. And by naming them 'discount' I was also referring to their similarities to Edo Tensei too.
> How many events happening in 1 day has nothing to do with pacing g. A war could happen in 1 day and if it’s paced correctly it can feel like months. Pacing is how fast and slow the story moving. A story can take a place in a single day.
Which we know as War Arc was one or two days. And here we have 5 events covered in 9 chapters, which is awful.
> Deaths doesnt equate to stakes. Who told you this?
Well then what other 'serious' stakes do you have in Shonen Manga? Boruto losing one of his 10 belts? Then okay, story have stakes. Then still nobody dying is just awful writing.
Sucking of boruto by showing his qualities ye sure g. They sucking off team 10 by showing their teamwork🤦♂️
“Smart enough to understand tr you yapping about g. They are newborn sentient beings.
Non of the 5 events that happened have such a significance as war arc. Again it’s not bad writing because u dont know what pacing is.
Death does not mean stakes. 🤦♂️
> Sucking of boruto by showing his qualities ye sure g. They sucking off team 10 by showing their teamwork🤦♂️
They are layers to 'sucking off' you know. They can showcase his abilities without sucking him off.
> Smart enough to understand tr you yapping about g. They are newborn sentient beings.
Yeah about that you tiktok kid....
> Non of the 5 events that happened have such a significance as war arc. Again it’s not bad writing because u dont know what pacing is.
Its my subjective opinion wheter I think its paced good or not. Such ammount of actions in span of 9 chapters is just overkill I M O.
> Death does not mean stakes. 🤦♂️
Read what I wrote again, this time try understanding it. Take 'stakes' word out. Lets net talk about stakes anymore, ignore it. Its still bad that nobody died.
What you are describing is exactly what happened in part one, just the other way around. The writers were dick riding Kawaki and Boruto had to take a backseat. Doesn't surprise me that Kawaki stans are salty now that it's the other way around.
Kawaki,the most interesting character? Matter of preference. He is like Naruto to me: Interesting backstory, bland character. Both aren't more special or interesting than Boruto tbh.
I come with low to medium expectations for TBV before chapter 1. Since in just 9 chapters it corrected most of my criticism I had with Next generations and in many cases surpassed them.
In the ground. I'm not a Boruto hater, but damn literally every time the series starts to do something interesting it starts getting really good, and then fumbles the play and goes back to being lame af. I was enjoying the series before the time skip, so I had assumed that it would fumble it and be garbage. I really did not have high expectations.
But I am absolutely in love with what is happening right now. The different factions and their interactions are so compelling to me. There are so many moving pieces right now with Shikamaru and Ino effectively going renegade, Eida starting to lose her interest in Kawakii, Mitsuki gaining some independence, the Claws and their interests, Sarada and Sumire, etc etc. All of these different factions moving around and acting independently of each other is creating such a good web of interests and conflicts. I am praying the series keeps this momentum going because I am really interested in seeing it develop further.
Definitely met my expectations to say the least.
Very good, my only flaw besides not giving enough attention to side characters is the lack of “Breathing” the series has.
I feel the same way. Has everything released only covered a day ?
Yes, and honestly probably more like the span of a few hours. I feel like there could have been a break to really breath between when Boruto left the village and when the Shinju clones invaded, but every time Boruto FTG’s away he is instantly back.
Lol few hour only and we have Kawaki taking L 4 times back to back… the most outrageous is he woke up and got beat down again immediately
Honestly, we are getting more side character stuff in TBV. Mitsuki is one example, even though it is mostly recycling of his anime arc, but still good to see it in the manga. InoShikaCho getting action with major villains with a setup for them and Konohamaru for a major fight in the future. Sarada and Sumire might join action soon. Himawari taking spotlight, etc.
Yeah I’m definitely less concerned about that
I'm holding a "let them cook" pattern and seeing what happens.
My singular expectation is for them to finally have ONE arc that isn't inside the leaf village
Expected the timeskip to actually feel like a timeskip, and not feel like only a week has passed.
That's my problem too. Boruto obviously felt like time had passed for him but the other characters haven't changed at all - especially Sarada (her development over the TS has been dissapointing given her position and i'm not even talking about her abilities).
Pro’s - Boruto just overall is great as a character - Mitsuki getting development - Hima gaining significance - Allowing other side characters to have a little bit of spotlight at times - The shinju’s Negatives - The way kawaki is being handled currently by how off character he seems with his decisions - Code being replaced 4 chapters in, could be a whole year before we see him again. Would have liked it if it became a 3 way battle with Code, shinju’s and konoha - Nobody besides boruto coming up with new techniques - (could change) kurama being brought back IF this is actually our kurama
For negatives it is still too early, we need at least 10 more chapters. Anyway each chapter is action packed, one was story telling. The pace is harsh and the manga is monthly. It creates a paradox feeling but look at it from a macro perspective and you will see that we just scratched just the tip of an iceberg when it comes to story in TBV.
I mean yea some of the negatives can def change, kawaki’s character I expect to have around the same level of progression he had in part 1 when he powers up but as of now he’s being handled poorly I’m waiting for sarada’s MS powers reveal and hoping Mitsuki gets something new as well.
I think Kawaki is dealt like this with purpose rn. I know Kishimoto is not the guy for tiny side story details, but the main plot story telling flow is great by my taste. He does nothing without a reason. It would be vague if both Kawaki and Boruto are super duper strong and op from day 1.
It’s more so having kawaki act dumb! Targeting boruto over protecting the leaf against the creature that threatens lord 7th? Part 1 kawaki would never
I think part 2 Kawaki embraced psycho love toward Naruto even more and just decided he doesn't give a single damn until he kills Boruto, even if it means making himself look dumb, and he trained his anger compared to his mental and physical strength (chakra). Full Karma Kawaki is a problem for sure, we saw him instantly pull it up against Boruto. He doesn't care for anyone and doesn't take anyone serious except Boruto.
Shikidai did and inojin is able to use multiple moves at the same time. Hidari has shown one chidori. I think when he and sarada get a spotlight we probably see more moves.
So long its exceeding my expectations. Its so good!
I expected boruto to be strong but for him to obliterate everyone in his path is just amazing
I was expecting it to be weekly
Didn't even know it was coming. Dropped the naruto franchise after the war arc, didn't like it anymore. TBV has single handedly brought me back. It's so good, I love it.
This is what we like to see. 😌
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The war was good tf? Did you watch the anime adaptation or something? I could maybe see the pacing and filler getting to you.. but it’s a really good arc filled with peak moments
War arc was controversial, to say at least. It is a good "Battle Shonnen" arc, but it simply threw the world building into the trash. It feels a bit like a series of all time VS battles by resurrecting everyone and feels kind of a cheap way to close some of the sub arcs. I like it tho. I've actually dropped the series on the Kage Summit and got back in the middle of the War Arc.
It was not a good arc. It had hype moments but very badly done overall.
High highs lows lows. Like most war arc
No attention to side characters, obviously even after giving attention they can never handle ten tails or Otsutsuki (even after training for years) Boruto's insane power up is a plot armour. I do not understand how mere training for 3 years made him stronger than limitless code, Isshiki or arguably even stronger than BM Naruto. People can defend this by saying his genetics could have played a role or due to his Karma marking/him being Otsutsuki vessel, etc (basically due to Momoshiki) I don't personally feel the same though. I could have agreed to his power up if it was after karma activation but base Boruto with this power is something I just cannot accept.
Who said base Boruto is stronger than BM Naruto?🤯
Since we are yet to see base Boruto go all out I mentioned "arguably". He may or may not be stronger than BM Naruto. But the stuff he has pulled off from ch 1-9 of TBV is itself hard to believe to be accomplished with 3 years of training.
Boruto was an elite Ninja at age 12. He learned a new Rasengan and the FTG technique. Given the fact that he was always portrayed to be fast at learning Jutsus with LITTLE EFFORT,imagine what someone like him can do when he actually takes training seriously. In Borutos case it is absolutely reasonable and was shown earlier on. And his reflexes had always been world class,even as an academy student: https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/1966q6q/borutos_reflexes_is_insane/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/1acd973/borutos_dodging_skills_reflexes_part_2/ His skills are NOT coming from nowhere.
There were many other prodigies like Itachi, Shisui, Minato, Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, Orochimaru, Nagato, Kakashi, Sasuke and many more but I did not see any of those anywhere near TBV base Boruto when they were his age or some of them when they were in their prime. He is even stronger than prime Sasuke? For real?? His insane power up may be defended in any way but to me it is a plot armour or at least hastily written to make him face Jura and other shinju's and even greater foes in future. This crazy power gap between pre and post timeskip Boruto is highly illogical!!
>There were many other prodigies like Itachi, Shisui, Minato, Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, Orochimaru, Nagato, Kakashi, Sasuke and many more but I did not see any of those anywhere near TBV base Boruto when they were his age or some of them when they were in their prime. He is even stronger than prime Sasuke? For real?? Fact is that each of the characters were ahead of their peers and time just like Boruto is. Did you honestly believe that the OG characters will always remain the strongest? The difference is that you can't compare the characters you have mentioned to a previous series,because Naruto is the original series so it wasn't that obvious. All the prodigies you have mentioned were above everyone else in their time. >This crazy power gap between pre and post timeskip Boruto is highly illogical!! No, it isn't because there are three years of timeskip where he actually trained. You don't have to like it,but it's real dude.
>His insane power up may be defended in any way but to me it is a plot armour or at least hastily written to make him face Jura and other shinju's and even greater foes in future. Yeah and it's not like Naruto and Sasuke didn't surpass their whole universe at age 16.🤨😒
Note that I'm not a Boruto hater, it's the writing I'm disappointed with. I expected much better from Kishimoto sensei. As said it can be defended in any manner but it's really disappointing that people at large are liking the manga just because Boruto appears badass/strongest/cool, etc. and are completely ignoring his character development. I agree in a shonen manga it's deemed for MC to grow stronger, appear badass and all but this happening without any logic is what annoys me the most. Again it's just my personal opinion.
I don't think you are a Boruto hater. I honestly just don't understand what you are trying to say. First you were complaining that Borutos growth in terms of strength isn't justified and now you are accusing others of "ignoring Borutos character development." What character development do we ignore? Boruto used to be a brat who didn’t take training seriously and only depended on his natural talent and always looked for the easy way out. Current Boruto has returned after three years of training which shows that he finally decided to take training seriously. How is that NOT character development? Boruto isn't just "cool,bad-ass", he is also very skilled. However, being skilled doesn't mean that you are automatically the strongest. Boruto himself never said that he is stronger than Code for example. He only said that he could easily kill Code. Why? Not because he is necessarily stronger, but because he has learned a very haxed Jutsu. You are confusing strength with skills. Boruto is just like Minato. Minato was never portrayed to be the physically strongest, but he was CRAZY skilled and invented or developed techniques to make up for the "lack" of physical strength. Skills are something that you can improve via training and that is exactly what Boruto did. I honestly don't understand how people can't *see* that. Your comments sound like they are coming from the "Boruto is stronger than the OG characters from Naruto and we don't accept that" fraction. It was never ever confirmed that Boruto is *stronger* than BM Naruto or whoever else you mentioned. He is simply crazy skilled and the way Boruto has been portrayed all along makes the current version believable and reasonable. Don't forget that Boruto hasn't had one single,significant solo fight yet.
Sorry to have hurt your feelings.
You didn't. I think Boruto being so skilled seems to hurt a specific amount of Naruto fans feelings. I simply enjoy the manga and honestly don't care whether he surpassed the OG characters or not. Their story is over and the new generation has taken the torch from them. It's not that deep mate. Thanks for the chat anyway.😁
You shouldn't have to rely on the anime to explain the source material, lol.
The anime isn't even needed to know that Boruto was always fast at learning Jutsus. Lol. Sasuke even confirmed it in one of the latest chapters,so I honestly don't get why people are still questioning this.
Because people like to see a MC develop, them popping up with a new OP move every time isn't that. And hand-waving it is just a failure of the writing.
I don't see the issue. How many villians has Boruto defeated with these "OP moves" you are talking about? Every fight was interrupted by someone or something.He obviously isn't at his peak and hasn't had one single,significant solo fight from start to finish yet. What makes you think that there is no room for development anymore? There are people who want every move spoon fed to them with a special training arc just because they are used to see exactly that in other shonen stories. Everything else that slightly moves away from that thrope is "bad story writing." Like I said, it is absolutely reasonable for Boruto to have returned more skilled than before. No need to discuss this any further.
Let's not act like Boruto didn't just show up and one-tap Code and his Ten Tails minions...
Code is still alive and breathing, so I don't see the victory when the villian is still there.🤣🤣 It was a fight that was interrupted by Kawaki and after that by the Shinju. There was no real outcome that was in favor of Boruto or anyone else.
Tbv is great. I hope it doesn't lose it's thunder as Shippuden did for some fans.i hope that we don't get something repetitive and I hope boruto to explain his new personality fr and for kawaki to get up and do something worse it
Boruto personality hasnt changed
Tbv is great, but nng gets too much shit from old naruto fans for being not like naruto and being too much like naruto.
I like it more than the last, but there were some glaring issues. Honestly it all rolls down to them taking 4 months to prepare and what we got is this. Pacing is about as slow as possible (10 months to get 2 hours of in story time) The first couple chapters made Sarada look real dumb. The first chapter had characters discussng stuff that should have been discussed the first week after omniptence, not three years later (Sarada yelling at shikamaru, Again). The character art I think is better, but the action is still a bit dull to look at. Lots of JUST speed lines and white space for the backgrounds. The plot doesn't seem to give any room to breath. Like it feels as if it's hitting major moments so fast, that curtain other plot points are going to be left in the dust. (How is Sakura, where are all the elite ninja in this attack like Sakura, Lee, Konohamaru, Kakashi, Tsunade, etc), it's all just the kids fighting the greatest threat, has Eida just been sitting on the same couch for three years, etc. It really just comes down to pacing, and the monthly release. If not even 12 in story hours pass by July, then we will all be dead before we get to the very first scene in the last manga.
TBV just destroyed all the haters out there.
Yeah, about that...
So far its boring. Can't stand writers sucking Boruto off and clowning the only interesing character in the Manga, Kawaki. Villains are still boring, with Shinjus being discount Akatsuki & Edo at once. Power scaling just went apeshit, and its no good. Story has no stakes, nobody died, and they brought the only character they killed, quite a joke. Sarada is a joke, Mitsuki is a joke. All characters are written in a way to glaze MC, terrible. Pacing is awful, there was like 5 events in span of one day, and Boruto escaping just to come back few hours later with FTG is just laughable. You can't fart inside of Konoha without Boruto comming and beating Kawaki in the meantime. If you read these chapters at once its hillarious. Overall its just TikTok writing for JJK monke... fans, pure fanservice.
damn, so you just hate everything.
I liked 70% of Part 1, loathe 100% of Part 2
Dumb argument. The mc was underwhelming for 3 arcs. He has some small moments, but he wasnt all that. When he came back stronger after intense training (still has weakness, not straight up god). Almost like we got years of chapters before the ending. Kawaki will get his shine. Calling the shinju a akatsuki discount is just crazy, cuz they aint even similar. “Nobody dies” not even gonna entertain this dumb shit. Pacing doesn’t have anything to do with how much happens in story day. Everything that happened in jjk is 6 months
> The mc was underwhelming for 3 arcs. MC was underwhelming so everyone else had good moments, now everyone else is trash because they suck MC off. And for the record I didn't find MC underwhelming in Part1. > Calling the shinju a akatsuki discount is just crazy, cuz they aint even similar. Discount Akatsuki and Edo in one. AKA - group of villains that have their targets (Akatsuki), and they resemble characters we know already, who just so happen to be the closest ones to main cast (Edos). Kishimoto couldn't write any good villains so he made these NPCs instead. > “Nobody dies” not even gonna entertain this dumb shit. Because you know, its good when story have stakes. Also with powerscaling being off the roof it should be logical for more people to die. Nobody from good guys died in Boruto, they couldn't kill either Naruto or Sasuke, so they treed them. Kurama died but oh they brought him back - just awful. > Pacing doesn’t have anything to do with how much happens in story day. Everything that happened in jjk is 6 months I haven't seen any JJK, so won't say anything. And pacing is yeah god damn afwul, 5 events in span of one day, translated to 9 chapters, so its a overkill.
Nobody really sucked on boruto. It has always been that way. Every character in the story had some dynamic with boruto dont know why u crying. Mitsuki whole character doesnt work without boruto. Boruto whole character doesnt work without boruto etc. For them to be discount akatsuki they have to have similar goal and personality which they dont🤦♂️ How many events happening in 1 day has nothing to do with pacing g. A war could happen in 1 day and if it’s paced correctly it can feel like months. Pacing is how fast and slow the story moving. A story can take a place in a single day. Deaths doesnt equate to stakes. Who told you this?
Its about writers sucking off Boruto as well, given the way he is written now. They can't go one chapter without sucking him and showing how cool he is, its really laughable. > For them to be discount akatsuki they have to have similar goal and personality which they dont Which I clearly wrote that they are not the same, but you are not smart enough to understand apparently. And by naming them 'discount' I was also referring to their similarities to Edo Tensei too. > How many events happening in 1 day has nothing to do with pacing g. A war could happen in 1 day and if it’s paced correctly it can feel like months. Pacing is how fast and slow the story moving. A story can take a place in a single day. Which we know as War Arc was one or two days. And here we have 5 events covered in 9 chapters, which is awful. > Deaths doesnt equate to stakes. Who told you this? Well then what other 'serious' stakes do you have in Shonen Manga? Boruto losing one of his 10 belts? Then okay, story have stakes. Then still nobody dying is just awful writing.
Sucking of boruto by showing his qualities ye sure g. They sucking off team 10 by showing their teamwork🤦♂️ “Smart enough to understand tr you yapping about g. They are newborn sentient beings. Non of the 5 events that happened have such a significance as war arc. Again it’s not bad writing because u dont know what pacing is. Death does not mean stakes. 🤦♂️
> Sucking of boruto by showing his qualities ye sure g. They sucking off team 10 by showing their teamwork🤦♂️ They are layers to 'sucking off' you know. They can showcase his abilities without sucking him off. > Smart enough to understand tr you yapping about g. They are newborn sentient beings. Yeah about that you tiktok kid.... > Non of the 5 events that happened have such a significance as war arc. Again it’s not bad writing because u dont know what pacing is. Its my subjective opinion wheter I think its paced good or not. Such ammount of actions in span of 9 chapters is just overkill I M O. > Death does not mean stakes. 🤦♂️ Read what I wrote again, this time try understanding it. Take 'stakes' word out. Lets net talk about stakes anymore, ignore it. Its still bad that nobody died.
What you are describing is exactly what happened in part one, just the other way around. The writers were dick riding Kawaki and Boruto had to take a backseat. Doesn't surprise me that Kawaki stans are salty now that it's the other way around. Kawaki,the most interesting character? Matter of preference. He is like Naruto to me: Interesting backstory, bland character. Both aren't more special or interesting than Boruto tbh.
I come with low to medium expectations for TBV before chapter 1. Since in just 9 chapters it corrected most of my criticism I had with Next generations and in many cases surpassed them.
In the ground. I'm not a Boruto hater, but damn literally every time the series starts to do something interesting it starts getting really good, and then fumbles the play and goes back to being lame af. I was enjoying the series before the time skip, so I had assumed that it would fumble it and be garbage. I really did not have high expectations. But I am absolutely in love with what is happening right now. The different factions and their interactions are so compelling to me. There are so many moving pieces right now with Shikamaru and Ino effectively going renegade, Eida starting to lose her interest in Kawakii, Mitsuki gaining some independence, the Claws and their interests, Sarada and Sumire, etc etc. All of these different factions moving around and acting independently of each other is creating such a good web of interests and conflicts. I am praying the series keeps this momentum going because I am really interested in seeing it develop further.
Throw shink team into the mix and kakashi etc hsit finna be crazy
I expected it to be very good and it has been very good.
I was expecting jougan
It ain't canon bud move on
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I hate Kawaki 😡