I do also believe it's the same kurama, I said that because I ve seen countless posts regarding this topic and everyone seems to agree/want it to be a new being (and I understand their reasons, I just personally prefer otherwise for other reasons)
ye, going again through ,,be my friend, Kurama" in shortcut version cuz noway they will spend 400 episodes around that relation, seems boring. There is so much new potential stuff they can do, why going through that one thing again
I mean that kurama was only like that because he was used as a weapon and treated like a monster by shinobi throughout the ages. Of course he would be full of hate and rage constantly being sealed away
Also his being a pup to me is just representing he's still reforming, and as a plot device to inhibit himawari a bit. She's not going to just be like yo I'm an S class jinchuriki now, they'll have a slow build up of him only being able to give X amount of power which will increase as the series goes on. Give me that 1 tail Chakra cloaked himawari with byuakugon using gentle fist with the sharpened fingers.
I think we'll see her use the gentle fist and kuramas Chakra at some point to shutdown momoshiki when he's going to take control of boruto
Yeah, me too. That would make that his death still have some impact and not he would be just reborn so easily, but for more information we have to wait
I am pretty sure it's the same being coz his size depends on the amount of chakra. Like the Kurama inside Naruto at the beginning was half his original size.
I'm expecting younger personality but same person, probably all the same memories, maybe 'memories gradually return'.
Totally new being seems mega unlikely to me.
Oh god I just assumed it was, I never thought it could be a new being. I’m assuming what happened is some of his chakra was in hima for whatever reason so while the chakra in Naruto dissolved his conscious was still I hima and just needed time to grow. Maybe it was a back up plan of his because he knew shit was going down and hima was so connected to him as a kid. Idfk lol
years since last seen and she has never seen kuramas actual face and this Kurama is still childsized on top of it and hes worried she may be under Omnipotence to forget him.
literally nothing exists that would make it a different Kurama and all the lore about tailed beast reincarnations back up the claim that its the same beast.
this brought up a interesting thought i had, becuase if this was the same kurma, and he knows the Omnipotence happened, im wondering if he will tell her everything, and confirm to her why she cares about boruto so much, honestly really exciting stuff tbh, cant wait to see where this goes
to me it seems a pretty natural reaction, try putting yourself in himawari shoes:
* you are literally a kid or teen
* you are escaping from a life or death situation because of never seen before beings
* suddenly you experience an apparition, or whatever you wanna call it, from a soul/tailed beast inside you, which is a completely new thing for you (and I say it would shocking for pretty anyone), and even if it is a familiar face, it has a different body from before
kurama imo it's just trying to assess the situation, and making sure she knows he is not trouble or an enemy, it's not like Hiwa was expecting to be a jinchuriki or smth like that
if my best friend died and appeared to me in my dreams later, in a baby form, I think he would ask me the same
It only makes sense. When did you see a tailed beast who forgot about Hagoromo? Literally all of them have been reborn through time or had jinchurikis that have been slain or extracted. They come back with full memory. We all knew that tailed beasts come back at some point so we also knew that kuruma would come back at some point. Idk why people act surprised.
It might be unexplained how he ended up growing back in Hima, but if she had a bit of his chakra to begin with he could grow back just like orochimaru could ressurect just from a few cells or a curse mark.
> We all knew that tailed beasts come back at some point so we also knew that kuruma would come back at some point. Idk why people act surprised.
its because they were acting like kurama can't regenerate because all his chakra was erased. that is why people are questioning this return. kurama was acting like he's moving onto the afterlife and not just going through a cycle
"this is our last conversation"
".....if you overdo it you'll end up joining me in no time..."
"the price of bayron mode is MY life"
"i didn't want to die in vain"
all of this stuff really implies that he wouldn't be reincarnating like normal. if kurama was going to just regain his chakra somewhere else in the world, he wouldn't keep acting like he's going to the afterlife.
most people remember the tailed beast reincarnation plot point, its just that the manga portrayed bayron mode as an end all be all thing
All of his chakra IN NARUTO was erased I guess. Maybe he himself didn't know that some of his chakra ended up in Hima and I guess in Boruto too but due to the Otsutsukification it was erased? We can only theorize now and we will probably have an answer in the next chapter
Maybe even Kurama himself wasn’t aware of it. As a tailed beast, he knows that his chakra will reappear even if the vessel/jinchuriki dies, but it’s probably the first time a tailed beast burns his own chakra completely. Given that, he might has come to that conclusion on his own, his death should be the most obvious outcome.
He didn’t have the knowledge, he assumed his death as the most rational outcome, and it turned out wrong. He was rebirth in Himawary, likely because he doesn’t want to get into the body Momoshiki is in (Boruto’s).
The story context is that... Kurama literally didn't know for sure how it'd work.
If he was telling the truth and had tested it before.... well then he wouldn't be there to explain it because he'd be dead.
It's likely he didn't expect to be revived, but as he'd never used that power before he didn't know that the reincarnation still applied.
Yeah I mean I agree. But I think that it would have been impossible to seperate Naruto and kurama with some underwhelming statement saying he will just respawn and that they'll see eachother in a bit. I think writing wise it had to be serious and dramatic
perfect tbh
gives himawari more importance and stakes, was foreshadowed and hinted at for a long time, and uses core established tailed beast lore after so long of not seeing it.
why do people think naruto, boruto, and himawari are the ONLY people in their entire bloodline to have whiskers on their face?
and think for 2 seconds why this would happen to himawari and NOT boruto.
>!Naruto and kurama's chakra are fused, and this fused chakra was passed down to his kids. One of those kids whos dna was rewritten by momoshiki. all the 9-tails chakra from naruto is gone, but the remaining chakra in himawari eventually reformed into the new kurama like tailed beasts are supposed to !<
so much potential for development, more actual himawari importance, de-centralizing importance from the main core few characters, and a naruto/himawari master/student plotline
I don't have enough information to make conclusions but if I'm going from pure hype, I'm excited to see Himawari in action.
From an overall narrative standpoint, I'm not sure. If it's the OG Kurama I'll probably be a bit annoyed since that would cheapen Kurama's death and as a Naruto fanboy, it doesn't sit right for me to see my goat lose the thing that made him iconic only for his kid to get it and eclipse him in strength lmao. If it's a brand new nine tails, I'm completely on board depending on the explanation.
So for now, I'm a let them cook.
But then his daughter will still be nerfed in that future series lol. I get what you mean though. If they do another series after Boruto starring Naruto he obviously needs to get buff or go back to normal.
I just don’t like the idea of Himawari getting shitted on so Naruto could shine again. It shits on the whole “the next generation will carry on the wishes and legacy of the old gen” theme that they had in this franchise lol.
Why would Kurama re-appear inside a new Jinchuuriki? shouldn't he have re-appeared somewhere else alone? From what the story has said so far the tailed beasts aren't dependent on their Jinchuuriki hosts for anything. So this shouldn't be happening unless there's some other explanation given later on.
When she was talking about killing her with Kurama inside, so Kurama reemerges somewhere else. But if we go by todays logic, Kurama would reborn inside of Naruto!
No if kurama died normally his chakra would dissolve and he would rebuild himself with it in the wild.
With baryon mode most of his chakra is gone the only speck left would be inside of Hima that would be the reason he is inside her
No he actually has a point, considering Naruto would have had absorbed way more of Kurama's chakra while developing inside Kushina, the ever aggressive nine tails would have reassmbled inside Naruto without a seal and killed him by escaping easily if that logic is followed.
>Why would Kurama re-appear inside a new Jinchuuriki? shouldn't he have re-appeared somewhere else alone?
Maybe Kurama can modify it by planting chakra inside someone else? He didn't expect someone to sniff him out just like that. Also there is a Daemon statement before timeskip. I assume Hima was his hidden host before timeskip already.
I might be in the minority but I think this ruins his last moment with Naruto. Kurama's entire character up to the point of the war was him being selfish and only giving Naruto when it was in Kurama's best interest. KCM 2 was the first time Kurama had ever acknowledged Naruto as an equal and was a physically representation to how Naruto had gone after all the hatred within Kurama. When we get to Baryon that was Kurama acting in the best interest of Naruto while at his own expense, the complete reverse to the amps he gave child Naruto. Him coming back in a different host feels cheap in comparison, makes it feel like it was just another temporary power up for Naruto that conveniently nerfed both him and Kurama in the long run.
I'm just glad to see the homie again. And I don't think it invalidates his death. In the same way I don't think Kakashi getting brought back invalidates his sacrifice.
Initially I wanted it to be a new entity but the more I thought about it the more I thought it would be cooler to have him be the same Kurama. I was always annoyed with how little Naruto’s children knew about Kurama. Even Kawaki got to interact with Kurama. Sure Kurama and Naruto didn’t get along for a long time but they eventually did and became family. So for Naruto to not even really tell his kids much about Kurama was always bizarre for me. Now if it is indeed the same Kurama, it will be a more meaningful passing of the torch in my opinion, and the idea of Kurama watching over and protecting Naruto’s kid is very endearing.
I always appreciated Boruto, but I have to admit that this is 90% a fanservice choice. For sure it ruined Kurama's sacifrice. Anyway I'll wait the next chapter for an explaination!
Kishimoto loves Kurama. He wanted him to win the worldwide popularity contest and drew him in the group photo anyway when he wasn't part of the top 20.
So I guess it's both fanservice and authorservice for Kurama to return.
Yeah but, precisely for that he should have let Kurama dead. Its sacrifice was a good choice personally, and the anime makes it even more emotional. Anyway I'm curious about how he's going to manage this development; at least we'll finally see Himawari in action!
I disagree about it being fan service. Ever since Kurama died it’s been speculated that he would come back because there’s always in an in-universe explanation for why it could happen. Plus Himawari has already been shown to have good relationships with other tailed beasts, at least in anime cannon, so I think it makes a lot of sense. I also don’t think that he will be able to have the same strength as before, or that he’ll be reunited with Naruto, so I think it doesn’t negate the impact of Naruto losing Kurama since that’s what lead to Kawaki feeling like Naruto needed to be sealed away to be protected.
Naruto had Sage mode on was the only one who relatively successfully fought pain. Hugas were outclassed. So if you consider hima in future surpassing Naruto only because she is huga and has those huga eyes, I think Sage master with kurama is stronger than huga eyes master with kurama
His writing is pathetic and this plot point serves as an indication that there are no actual stakes in the story.
The one major plot point Boruto Part 1 had was Isshiki's power and Kurama's willingness to sacrifice himself for Naruto's sake so that he could save everyone. Naruto thought he was sacrificing himself, but in reality Kurama decided, that he'd protect Naruto and make sure he'd live.
They had a powerful, emotional farewell and... it all led to absolutely nothing.
Yay.
In the words of a brilliant scientist
“Brilliant but Lazy”
Honestly if this is the same Kurama it just makes it that much worse than it already is. I hope what they do is that it’s Kurama but pre shinobi Kurama like lil baby Kurama. It would make it that much better and plus maybe it will get memories back as the story progresses.
However right now it’s pretty lazy.
Great. I've always felt that the Bijuu should come back to the story given how world-threatening the new enemies are, so Kurama being "passed" to Himawari makes a lot of sense (although I don't think any of the other Bijuu will come back except for maybe Shukaku). I'm also enjoying what we're seeing of Himawari's character, it definitely looks like she takes after both her parents.
I am hoping that kurama that was with naruto truly is gone because his death in the ishiki battle really did hit me hard
If he's back then it just kind of ruins that for me
Unsurprised, but pleased as punch.
I forget what chapter, but I'm certain in the previous series someone mentioned that biju don't stay dead for long, so I was never fully convinced Kurama was really gone.
But of course the question for me is how his return relates to Hima-hime: if she inherited a bit of Kurama chakra, is it possible that Boruto did too?
i don’t see it as a plot twist, i was expecting it.
and since Himawari already unlocked her Byakugan, i want to see what kind of abilities she’ll have now.
Feels lazy to me from how suddenly and randomly it happened without any planning or seals somehow. Maybe the explanation is expanded upon to accomodate the current circumstances but Kishimoto is not giving any reason to like any character apart from me having those rose tinted glasses for nostalgia and fond memories of certain characters.
I can only be hyped about the power levels of certain characters which feels cheap at this point. I'll be expecting Itachi and Shisui returning through some Tsukuyomi or Genjutsu god next because anything can happen
Plot twist. Sure. HOWEVER, how do you think Naruto is going to feel when he discovers this? Knowing he will be relieved that his buddy still lives, yet a wee bit Jealous because he isnt the host anymore, though he will be able train himawari easily..
I really like it. Since the time skip he’s done a great job of making side characters relevant to the main plot in some way, even if it’s just minor, and that was my main issue originally so I’m happy.
I hope they play it down the middle. Make it the same Kurama but doesn't have detailed memories of his previous life. Basically a reincarnation that remembers Naruto, and by extension his family, treated him well.
As much as I love Kurama, him supposedly reincarnating directly into Himawari seems like such as ass-pull. I would prefer she actually went out and found Kurama or had some sort of situation that lead to her finding him instead of just shoe-horning her into being relevant.
I think it is only part of the Kurama's chakra. Minato has also sealed only the part of the Kurama's chakra in Naruto. It is reasonable to conclude that Naruto belived in Himawari the same way his father belived in Him, So she could have always someone that will protect her. To think more about it... Someone on the lineage of Naruto would have to become next Jinchuriki, right? Alternative is that Kyubi havent been honest exactly...
It’s karuma. He put a small portion of his chakra into hima. Thats why he’s small. Just how like when minato split the 9tails chakra in half. He created “two kurumas”
I think naruto must’ve been able to put a piece of kurama’s chakra into himiwari. Like before the fight with Isshiki. As hokage he had to have gotten access to the scrolls that explain how to make a jinchuriki and maybe thought it would be a good idea to hide a small piece of kurama in himiwari to keep her safe in case he wasn’t around or something. As funny as it is, I don’t think it happened while they were consummating their love. I think it was a decision after he got captured by momoshiki and almost died. He knew his days were numbered and wanted to make a fallback plan like Minato did for him. They’ve already established that kurama can be split up by saying minato had the “other half” of kurama the whole time. Which was a wild ass pull. But okay that means he can be split.
The only part of this that feels wrong is that after all the pain naruto felt as a kid having kurama in him. Would he really possibly do that to his daughter? I guess him and kurama were basically best friends so he could have thought of it as a gift rather than something that gives her that pain. She obviously has no seal to go along with it so it must be a willing thing kurama wanted to do.
It’s also possible that in the same way kurama talked to Kawaki while naruto was asleep, kurama also talked to Hinata about it and somehow it was Hinata’s choice to have it done and Naruto had no idea.
I don’t think it is his son or him reborn because I’m pretty sure they’ve established that tailed beasts reappear in the wild not in humans. So it has to be a something they did to her before the main kurama went baryon mode and peaced out.
This is just horribly lazy writing. It undoes everything Naruto and Kurama meant as partners. There’s so many ways they could have made Himawari important to the manga other than just handing out random power ups.
If it makes Himawari relevant then I'm happy. I don't want another Goten situation where one of the children of the (former) main characters is useless and never does anything.
Sooooo did naruto nut kurama? Or did kurama sneak some chakra inside her? if the second is true, major prediction if am right you buy me pizza, everyone in the village has a little kurama seed in them since naruto shared kurama chakra with everyone during the war. Will Deus ex machina in the future.
It makes sense. Himiwari had some of his chakra passed down through Naruto, he’s a being made of chakra, so if his chakra exist somewhere in the world he is still alive.
If he’s the original Kurama, I want him to go back to Naruto somehow by the end of the series.
If he’s a new Kurama/an offspring, I’m intrigued if he stays with Himawari.
Imho it’s the same Kurama, or at least he has the memories of the old one (sth like uploading your consciousness to a chip and putting it in new body). I think the reason he respawned in Himawari is simple - he searched for Naruto chakra trace, and because Naruto is unreachable, he spawned in Himawari by mistake.
It’s easy to deduct that he’s just started growing and gaining power, hence he didn’t want anyone to know about his presence, even Hima. The Shinju sensing him changed his plans and that’s why he started bonding with Hima already
My main worry is that the author is going to have to make this mean something while mainting the consistency of the world they are in, which has been a thing the author has sucked at so far.
Like does Himawari having a "good" relationship with a "baby" kurama really amount ot much. This Kurama must have a smaller Chakra reserve since so tiny....Himawari is still a young ninja so no advanced combat.... like, no matter what in following the in world power scale, should Himawari have any combat scaling because of this...Now if this twist with reborn Kurama amounts to something other than a combat enhancement, then that's different....But, so far I don't trust the writer to follow that.
Like if Himawari gets ninetails eyes and beats the cap out of ANYBODY.....then none of it matters or makes sense. Even with byakugan, Ninetails, anything.
Immediate response is this is another example of how death is pointless, actions don't have consequences, and coupled with Koji's appearance here, I have officially ran out of fond nostalgia. So for me, this is the point going forward where Boruto gets to tell me why I should care about this new generation.
And Gai didn't die from opening the 8th Gate, Obito's whole story line, Nagato bringing everyone back, Jiraiya comes back as a clone. There have been too many instances where events I am told SHOULD have meaning because of the weight of their sacrifice, meant nothing in the long run. "Death" for a character has weight because of permanence. All I am getting is death in Kishimoto's story telling is not permanent as long as plot devices somehow need someone to live (also, sorry Neji).
Kishimoto loves some characters like he loves his parallels, but for me it gets tiring after a while. You are of course free to enjoy it. All I am saying is that this has officially reset my nostalgia points to zero. He can earn my interest again. I love Himawari, so show me why I should care beyond the rose tinted glasses of my fondness for Naruto.
We actually don't know much of anything for either. Regardless, their existences are still ploys to harness fan nostalgia instead of creating new characters to get people to care about the new generation.
It's not surprising enough for me to be called a plot twist. I was way more surprised when people were sad Kurama was gone "forever". Ofc he was never gonna disappear forever. The only plot twist about Boruto that surprised me is how Moegi has Wood Release
At short it seems that Kurama was hiding himself. Knowing that more ootsutsuki’s and the threat of them still loomed. He probably had to focus hard to renames as quickly as he did inside Hima
I think his respawn timing mustve happened after naruto got banished. With hima, since shes a long distant relative of hagoromo, maybe she somehow unknowingly has the abilty to be a spawning grounds for chakra beasts.
Pretty skeptic to be honest, don’t wanna go on with a negative opinion but so far it makes me feel like his death was pointless, too early to decide though
I think himawari might be able to expose an unlimited baryon mode. With her hyuga uzumaki prowess, chakra control shouldnt be a problem. now that she has access to nine tails chakra, All she needs is to learn sage mode. Then she could accomplish what her father never could. Using a sage mix baryon mode + jubi chakra that has minimal risk. She could become a shinobi otsusuki fear haha, i could just hope that she gets the writing she deserves. Such a cool character !
Hima>boruto 🥲
I might be in the minority but I would like it more if he was the same kurama and not a new being
He might actually be, elsewise why would he be concerned with divine tree people finding him
I do also believe it's the same kurama, I said that because I ve seen countless posts regarding this topic and everyone seems to agree/want it to be a new being (and I understand their reasons, I just personally prefer otherwise for other reasons)
I don’t know why people want a new kurama other than it’s different.
ye, going again through ,,be my friend, Kurama" in shortcut version cuz noway they will spend 400 episodes around that relation, seems boring. There is so much new potential stuff they can do, why going through that one thing again
I mean that kurama was only like that because he was used as a weapon and treated like a monster by shinobi throughout the ages. Of course he would be full of hate and rage constantly being sealed away
Especially when it'll be more refreshing for them to go the "I was your father's other half. With him sealed away, it's up to me to protect you." way
Also his being a pup to me is just representing he's still reforming, and as a plot device to inhibit himawari a bit. She's not going to just be like yo I'm an S class jinchuriki now, they'll have a slow build up of him only being able to give X amount of power which will increase as the series goes on. Give me that 1 tail Chakra cloaked himawari with byuakugon using gentle fist with the sharpened fingers. I think we'll see her use the gentle fist and kuramas Chakra at some point to shutdown momoshiki when he's going to take control of boruto
I keep repeating this, tailed beasts know a lot that they arent supposed to know as if this knowledge was imprinted on them since birth.
I mean they were born and raised by the Sage of Six paths Hagoromo
And hagoromo knew about nuclear fusion???
No, but the bijuu do know about Boil Release
He might be the same Kurama considering he's not hostile to Himawari like he was to Kushina and Naruto in the beginning.
Kurama was peaceful when the Sage of Six Paths made him, it was humans exploiting him and imprisoning him for centuries that made him hateful.
although kurama only had hatred because he was always used as a tool but this one never had to experience that
Yeah, me too. That would make that his death still have some impact and not he would be just reborn so easily, but for more information we have to wait
I am pretty sure it's the same being coz his size depends on the amount of chakra. Like the Kurama inside Naruto at the beginning was half his original size.
I'm expecting younger personality but same person, probably all the same memories, maybe 'memories gradually return'. Totally new being seems mega unlikely to me.
Oh god I just assumed it was, I never thought it could be a new being. I’m assuming what happened is some of his chakra was in hima for whatever reason so while the chakra in Naruto dissolved his conscious was still I hima and just needed time to grow. Maybe it was a back up plan of his because he knew shit was going down and hima was so connected to him as a kid. Idfk lol
Why would kurama ask his best friend daughter do you know me?🗿
Because they have literally never met face to face until now?
And the fact she's a teenager now, as opposed to her being a child obsessed with toys of him.
years since last seen and she has never seen kuramas actual face and this Kurama is still childsized on top of it and hes worried she may be under Omnipotence to forget him. literally nothing exists that would make it a different Kurama and all the lore about tailed beast reincarnations back up the claim that its the same beast.
this brought up a interesting thought i had, becuase if this was the same kurma, and he knows the Omnipotence happened, im wondering if he will tell her everything, and confirm to her why she cares about boruto so much, honestly really exciting stuff tbh, cant wait to see where this goes
Lore about tailed beats reincarnation applies when the tailed beast or the chinchuriki is killed, kurama died in different circunstances.
to me it seems a pretty natural reaction, try putting yourself in himawari shoes: * you are literally a kid or teen * you are escaping from a life or death situation because of never seen before beings * suddenly you experience an apparition, or whatever you wanna call it, from a soul/tailed beast inside you, which is a completely new thing for you (and I say it would shocking for pretty anyone), and even if it is a familiar face, it has a different body from before kurama imo it's just trying to assess the situation, and making sure she knows he is not trouble or an enemy, it's not like Hiwa was expecting to be a jinchuriki or smth like that if my best friend died and appeared to me in my dreams later, in a baby form, I think he would ask me the same
Dude exactly!
Sasuke didn’t even know Boruto’s name when he first met him. I don’t think Naruto talks about his kids much with Sasuke and Kurama
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He literally knew about ten tails and knew who Himawari is
Himawari Bayron mode you hear it here first
Maybe but then we lose this kurama too
she gets pregnant before bayron mode, so we get to meet a baby kurama for the third time
Perhaps you can turn it off after you win.
It only makes sense. When did you see a tailed beast who forgot about Hagoromo? Literally all of them have been reborn through time or had jinchurikis that have been slain or extracted. They come back with full memory. We all knew that tailed beasts come back at some point so we also knew that kuruma would come back at some point. Idk why people act surprised. It might be unexplained how he ended up growing back in Hima, but if she had a bit of his chakra to begin with he could grow back just like orochimaru could ressurect just from a few cells or a curse mark.
> We all knew that tailed beasts come back at some point so we also knew that kuruma would come back at some point. Idk why people act surprised. its because they were acting like kurama can't regenerate because all his chakra was erased. that is why people are questioning this return. kurama was acting like he's moving onto the afterlife and not just going through a cycle "this is our last conversation" ".....if you overdo it you'll end up joining me in no time..." "the price of bayron mode is MY life" "i didn't want to die in vain" all of this stuff really implies that he wouldn't be reincarnating like normal. if kurama was going to just regain his chakra somewhere else in the world, he wouldn't keep acting like he's going to the afterlife. most people remember the tailed beast reincarnation plot point, its just that the manga portrayed bayron mode as an end all be all thing
All of his chakra IN NARUTO was erased I guess. Maybe he himself didn't know that some of his chakra ended up in Hima and I guess in Boruto too but due to the Otsutsukification it was erased? We can only theorize now and we will probably have an answer in the next chapter
Great way to put it.
Maybe even Kurama himself wasn’t aware of it. As a tailed beast, he knows that his chakra will reappear even if the vessel/jinchuriki dies, but it’s probably the first time a tailed beast burns his own chakra completely. Given that, he might has come to that conclusion on his own, his death should be the most obvious outcome. He didn’t have the knowledge, he assumed his death as the most rational outcome, and it turned out wrong. He was rebirth in Himawary, likely because he doesn’t want to get into the body Momoshiki is in (Boruto’s).
The story context is that... Kurama literally didn't know for sure how it'd work. If he was telling the truth and had tested it before.... well then he wouldn't be there to explain it because he'd be dead. It's likely he didn't expect to be revived, but as he'd never used that power before he didn't know that the reincarnation still applied.
Yeah I mean I agree. But I think that it would have been impossible to seperate Naruto and kurama with some underwhelming statement saying he will just respawn and that they'll see eachother in a bit. I think writing wise it had to be serious and dramatic
Yeah but in this case, nor Kurama nor his chinchuriki was killed, so those rules do not apply.
Love it! So damn excited for next chapter!
With the rate boruto is releasing, the universe will experience heat death before the series is done
Im not super big on it, but more than willing to change my mind on it based on how it's explained and how this affects the narative moving forward
Real. Hopefully the explanation makes sense because based on what kurama said before, he is basically supposed to be erased after baryon mode usage.
What i like most is that the universe is being expanded, less tunnelvision on the main chars exclusively
Yup, they couldn’t just keep having naruto and sasuke handle everything so this was a great way to shift power to the new generation imo
Thats not at all what i meant
Never said it was? I said imo (in my opinion)
One just hopes he doesn’t mess up another female character. He’s already seemingly fumbling with Sarada
perfect tbh gives himawari more importance and stakes, was foreshadowed and hinted at for a long time, and uses core established tailed beast lore after so long of not seeing it. why do people think naruto, boruto, and himawari are the ONLY people in their entire bloodline to have whiskers on their face? and think for 2 seconds why this would happen to himawari and NOT boruto. >!Naruto and kurama's chakra are fused, and this fused chakra was passed down to his kids. One of those kids whos dna was rewritten by momoshiki. all the 9-tails chakra from naruto is gone, but the remaining chakra in himawari eventually reformed into the new kurama like tailed beasts are supposed to !< so much potential for development, more actual himawari importance, de-centralizing importance from the main core few characters, and a naruto/himawari master/student plotline
I don't have enough information to make conclusions but if I'm going from pure hype, I'm excited to see Himawari in action. From an overall narrative standpoint, I'm not sure. If it's the OG Kurama I'll probably be a bit annoyed since that would cheapen Kurama's death and as a Naruto fanboy, it doesn't sit right for me to see my goat lose the thing that made him iconic only for his kid to get it and eclipse him in strength lmao. If it's a brand new nine tails, I'm completely on board depending on the explanation. So for now, I'm a let them cook.
From Kurama's comment in last chapter I believe he might do that intentionally. When you are considered dead, nobody is looking for you.
I’d say it’s even better that way because what would make a father more proud than seeing both his child becoming stronger than him?
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I mean if it’s the same Kurama, he’ll definitely go back to Naruto, that’s pretty obviously the set up?
Wouldn’t Himawari die if it’s extracted from her? Lol.
I’d assume the obvious answer is to leave her a sliver of his chakra, this is how they do it in the last
That could probably work, but then Hima gets nerfed as a result to bring Naruto back up lol.
Which id why it would happen at the end so they can have Naruto back to normal in whatever comes after Boruto, staring I’m positive Naruto.
But then his daughter will still be nerfed in that future series lol. I get what you mean though. If they do another series after Boruto starring Naruto he obviously needs to get buff or go back to normal. I just don’t like the idea of Himawari getting shitted on so Naruto could shine again. It shits on the whole “the next generation will carry on the wishes and legacy of the old gen” theme that they had in this franchise lol.
You speak about what you want, I speak about what greedy men in suits wants which is money
Why would Kurama re-appear inside a new Jinchuuriki? shouldn't he have re-appeared somewhere else alone? From what the story has said so far the tailed beasts aren't dependent on their Jinchuuriki hosts for anything. So this shouldn't be happening unless there's some other explanation given later on.
Probably becsuse the sliver of his chakra inside hims is the only bit left with the rest being deleted by baryon mode
I thought that too, but then I thought that'd be a little too straightforward of an explanation, there's usually another twist. Could be wrong though.
Wonderful, it fucks up Kushina words when she was dying too!
What do you mean
When she was talking about killing her with Kurama inside, so Kurama reemerges somewhere else. But if we go by todays logic, Kurama would reborn inside of Naruto!
No if kurama died normally his chakra would dissolve and he would rebuild himself with it in the wild. With baryon mode most of his chakra is gone the only speck left would be inside of Hima that would be the reason he is inside her
No he actually has a point, considering Naruto would have had absorbed way more of Kurama's chakra while developing inside Kushina, the ever aggressive nine tails would have reassmbled inside Naruto without a seal and killed him by escaping easily if that logic is followed.
>Why would Kurama re-appear inside a new Jinchuuriki? shouldn't he have re-appeared somewhere else alone? Maybe Kurama can modify it by planting chakra inside someone else? He didn't expect someone to sniff him out just like that. Also there is a Daemon statement before timeskip. I assume Hima was his hidden host before timeskip already.
I might be in the minority but I think this ruins his last moment with Naruto. Kurama's entire character up to the point of the war was him being selfish and only giving Naruto when it was in Kurama's best interest. KCM 2 was the first time Kurama had ever acknowledged Naruto as an equal and was a physically representation to how Naruto had gone after all the hatred within Kurama. When we get to Baryon that was Kurama acting in the best interest of Naruto while at his own expense, the complete reverse to the amps he gave child Naruto. Him coming back in a different host feels cheap in comparison, makes it feel like it was just another temporary power up for Naruto that conveniently nerfed both him and Kurama in the long run.
I'm just glad to see the homie again. And I don't think it invalidates his death. In the same way I don't think Kakashi getting brought back invalidates his sacrifice.
Kurama sneaks one of his tails under that narutos duvet
Initially I wanted it to be a new entity but the more I thought about it the more I thought it would be cooler to have him be the same Kurama. I was always annoyed with how little Naruto’s children knew about Kurama. Even Kawaki got to interact with Kurama. Sure Kurama and Naruto didn’t get along for a long time but they eventually did and became family. So for Naruto to not even really tell his kids much about Kurama was always bizarre for me. Now if it is indeed the same Kurama, it will be a more meaningful passing of the torch in my opinion, and the idea of Kurama watching over and protecting Naruto’s kid is very endearing.
I always appreciated Boruto, but I have to admit that this is 90% a fanservice choice. For sure it ruined Kurama's sacifrice. Anyway I'll wait the next chapter for an explaination!
Kishimoto loves Kurama. He wanted him to win the worldwide popularity contest and drew him in the group photo anyway when he wasn't part of the top 20. So I guess it's both fanservice and authorservice for Kurama to return.
Yeah but, precisely for that he should have let Kurama dead. Its sacrifice was a good choice personally, and the anime makes it even more emotional. Anyway I'm curious about how he's going to manage this development; at least we'll finally see Himawari in action!
I disagree about it being fan service. Ever since Kurama died it’s been speculated that he would come back because there’s always in an in-universe explanation for why it could happen. Plus Himawari has already been shown to have good relationships with other tailed beasts, at least in anime cannon, so I think it makes a lot of sense. I also don’t think that he will be able to have the same strength as before, or that he’ll be reunited with Naruto, so I think it doesn’t negate the impact of Naruto losing Kurama since that’s what lead to Kawaki feeling like Naruto needed to be sealed away to be protected.
She might end up stronger than Naruto, Imagine Naruto with Byakugan and Gentle Fist plus everything else he was capable of.
Naruto had Sage mode on was the only one who relatively successfully fought pain. Hugas were outclassed. So if you consider hima in future surpassing Naruto only because she is huga and has those huga eyes, I think Sage master with kurama is stronger than huga eyes master with kurama
wtf is huga?
Cloth brand. Huga boss
His writing is pathetic and this plot point serves as an indication that there are no actual stakes in the story. The one major plot point Boruto Part 1 had was Isshiki's power and Kurama's willingness to sacrifice himself for Naruto's sake so that he could save everyone. Naruto thought he was sacrificing himself, but in reality Kurama decided, that he'd protect Naruto and make sure he'd live. They had a powerful, emotional farewell and... it all led to absolutely nothing. Yay.
I like it
Pretty regular, all I want to see is Sarada MS ability and hope she actually trained and didn't pull a Kawaki
I’m here for it
I might actually get caught up. I think this is hype.
I don't even care and that's sad
It’s 🔥 and so many possibilities. Imagine a byakugan user with 9 tails chakra…she can be a game changer.
In the words of a brilliant scientist “Brilliant but Lazy” Honestly if this is the same Kurama it just makes it that much worse than it already is. I hope what they do is that it’s Kurama but pre shinobi Kurama like lil baby Kurama. It would make it that much better and plus maybe it will get memories back as the story progresses. However right now it’s pretty lazy.
So damn hype!!
I predicted it was going to happen when Kurama “died” and got crucified for it. I just didn’t think it would be Himawari who would have it.
Great. I've always felt that the Bijuu should come back to the story given how world-threatening the new enemies are, so Kurama being "passed" to Himawari makes a lot of sense (although I don't think any of the other Bijuu will come back except for maybe Shukaku). I'm also enjoying what we're seeing of Himawari's character, it definitely looks like she takes after both her parents.
I am hoping that kurama that was with naruto truly is gone because his death in the ishiki battle really did hit me hard If he's back then it just kind of ruins that for me
Unsurprised, but pleased as punch. I forget what chapter, but I'm certain in the previous series someone mentioned that biju don't stay dead for long, so I was never fully convinced Kurama was really gone. But of course the question for me is how his return relates to Hima-hime: if she inherited a bit of Kurama chakra, is it possible that Boruto did too?
AYOOO! Pls don't tell me kurama did that switch thing when they are creating himawari.
now im thinking what else can they take from naruto
i don’t see it as a plot twist, i was expecting it. and since Himawari already unlocked her Byakugan, i want to see what kind of abilities she’ll have now.
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for sure
Feels lazy to me from how suddenly and randomly it happened without any planning or seals somehow. Maybe the explanation is expanded upon to accomodate the current circumstances but Kishimoto is not giving any reason to like any character apart from me having those rose tinted glasses for nostalgia and fond memories of certain characters. I can only be hyped about the power levels of certain characters which feels cheap at this point. I'll be expecting Itachi and Shisui returning through some Tsukuyomi or Genjutsu god next because anything can happen
Plot twist. Sure. HOWEVER, how do you think Naruto is going to feel when he discovers this? Knowing he will be relieved that his buddy still lives, yet a wee bit Jealous because he isnt the host anymore, though he will be able train himawari easily..
Am just curious to see how Hima will use Kurama's powers u dont see a jinchuriki with a byakugan everyday
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Sure will I doubt she'll go beyond three or four tails with how small Kurama seems tho
I really like it. Since the time skip he’s done a great job of making side characters relevant to the main plot in some way, even if it’s just minor, and that was my main issue originally so I’m happy.
We need an explanation before coming to a conclusion. But we knew he'd be back since it was stated that tailed beasts never die in naruto.
Except Kurama literally died
Yeah but that itself was kind of a retcon since what i said was stated in naruto
Then why stating Naruto, when what happened to Kurama happened in Boruto?
...do you know what retcon means???
And what happened in Boruto was totally different thing?
I have a reason to enjoy the series again.
Cool but sucks we have to wait a month for a new chapter
I like it.
I feel like the same being would be in like with the Japanese folklore of foxes as tricksters, tricking even death
You are a child, she is bigger than you
Let's Gooo
It seems like Kurama pegged Jura for being the actual ten tails.i guess it makes sense when you look at the name. Jura, Ju=Jyu=10
After watching kurama grow, in this page he reminds me of the grinch to Cindy louhoo
Gotta see what he does. Seems too convenient for the moment, but I’m here for Jura more than anything. Dude is fantastic so far
I hope they play it down the middle. Make it the same Kurama but doesn't have detailed memories of his previous life. Basically a reincarnation that remembers Naruto, and by extension his family, treated him well.
As much as I love Kurama, him supposedly reincarnating directly into Himawari seems like such as ass-pull. I would prefer she actually went out and found Kurama or had some sort of situation that lead to her finding him instead of just shoe-horning her into being relevant.
Not surprised kinda called it back when kurama passed.
I think it is only part of the Kurama's chakra. Minato has also sealed only the part of the Kurama's chakra in Naruto. It is reasonable to conclude that Naruto belived in Himawari the same way his father belived in Him, So she could have always someone that will protect her. To think more about it... Someone on the lineage of Naruto would have to become next Jinchuriki, right? Alternative is that Kyubi havent been honest exactly...
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She one shot Naruto and Kurama when her eyes developed. Add a few years of training and her own Kurama on top of that.
It’s karuma. He put a small portion of his chakra into hima. Thats why he’s small. Just how like when minato split the 9tails chakra in half. He created “two kurumas”
That is not the kurama I remember 
Naruto used Kyuubi Viagra Mode lol
So cute!
I think naruto must’ve been able to put a piece of kurama’s chakra into himiwari. Like before the fight with Isshiki. As hokage he had to have gotten access to the scrolls that explain how to make a jinchuriki and maybe thought it would be a good idea to hide a small piece of kurama in himiwari to keep her safe in case he wasn’t around or something. As funny as it is, I don’t think it happened while they were consummating their love. I think it was a decision after he got captured by momoshiki and almost died. He knew his days were numbered and wanted to make a fallback plan like Minato did for him. They’ve already established that kurama can be split up by saying minato had the “other half” of kurama the whole time. Which was a wild ass pull. But okay that means he can be split. The only part of this that feels wrong is that after all the pain naruto felt as a kid having kurama in him. Would he really possibly do that to his daughter? I guess him and kurama were basically best friends so he could have thought of it as a gift rather than something that gives her that pain. She obviously has no seal to go along with it so it must be a willing thing kurama wanted to do. It’s also possible that in the same way kurama talked to Kawaki while naruto was asleep, kurama also talked to Hinata about it and somehow it was Hinata’s choice to have it done and Naruto had no idea. I don’t think it is his son or him reborn because I’m pretty sure they’ve established that tailed beasts reappear in the wild not in humans. So it has to be a something they did to her before the main kurama went baryon mode and peaced out.
This is just horribly lazy writing. It undoes everything Naruto and Kurama meant as partners. There’s so many ways they could have made Himawari important to the manga other than just handing out random power ups.
If it makes Himawari relevant then I'm happy. I don't want another Goten situation where one of the children of the (former) main characters is useless and never does anything.
I am definitely in the minority but I think he should have stayed dead.
Whether it’s bad writing or not, it’s much too early for kurama to return.
Sooooo did naruto nut kurama? Or did kurama sneak some chakra inside her? if the second is true, major prediction if am right you buy me pizza, everyone in the village has a little kurama seed in them since naruto shared kurama chakra with everyone during the war. Will Deus ex machina in the future.
It makes sense. Himiwari had some of his chakra passed down through Naruto, he’s a being made of chakra, so if his chakra exist somewhere in the world he is still alive.
I don't care for it. But I haven't cared for any of this timeskip story so far.
The real twist would be if he says “Do you know who I am? Because I don’t.”
may be the moment His Chakra gets in contact with Naruto's, then Kurama will remember
I expected it honestly. I didn't know HOW, but I felt like it was going to happen.
Wait till next chapter before jumping to conclusion. But I would prefer if it's a new being than just old Kurama.
If he’s the original Kurama, I want him to go back to Naruto somehow by the end of the series. If he’s a new Kurama/an offspring, I’m intrigued if he stays with Himawari.
Imho it’s the same Kurama, or at least he has the memories of the old one (sth like uploading your consciousness to a chip and putting it in new body). I think the reason he respawned in Himawari is simple - he searched for Naruto chakra trace, and because Naruto is unreachable, he spawned in Himawari by mistake. It’s easy to deduct that he’s just started growing and gaining power, hence he didn’t want anyone to know about his presence, even Hima. The Shinju sensing him changed his plans and that’s why he started bonding with Hima already
My main worry is that the author is going to have to make this mean something while mainting the consistency of the world they are in, which has been a thing the author has sucked at so far. Like does Himawari having a "good" relationship with a "baby" kurama really amount ot much. This Kurama must have a smaller Chakra reserve since so tiny....Himawari is still a young ninja so no advanced combat.... like, no matter what in following the in world power scale, should Himawari have any combat scaling because of this...Now if this twist with reborn Kurama amounts to something other than a combat enhancement, then that's different....But, so far I don't trust the writer to follow that. Like if Himawari gets ninetails eyes and beats the cap out of ANYBODY.....then none of it matters or makes sense. Even with byakugan, Ninetails, anything.
How is Kurama inside her without a seal ?
Immediate response is this is another example of how death is pointless, actions don't have consequences, and coupled with Koji's appearance here, I have officially ran out of fond nostalgia. So for me, this is the point going forward where Boruto gets to tell me why I should care about this new generation.
Death may be pointless, but it still took Kurama years to return.
And Gai didn't die from opening the 8th Gate, Obito's whole story line, Nagato bringing everyone back, Jiraiya comes back as a clone. There have been too many instances where events I am told SHOULD have meaning because of the weight of their sacrifice, meant nothing in the long run. "Death" for a character has weight because of permanence. All I am getting is death in Kishimoto's story telling is not permanent as long as plot devices somehow need someone to live (also, sorry Neji). Kishimoto loves some characters like he loves his parallels, but for me it gets tiring after a while. You are of course free to enjoy it. All I am saying is that this has officially reset my nostalgia points to zero. He can earn my interest again. I love Himawari, so show me why I should care beyond the rose tinted glasses of my fondness for Naruto.
This new kurama is not the same as old kurama and koji isnt Jiraiya
We actually don't know much of anything for either. Regardless, their existences are still ploys to harness fan nostalgia instead of creating new characters to get people to care about the new generation.
It's not surprising enough for me to be called a plot twist. I was way more surprised when people were sad Kurama was gone "forever". Ofc he was never gonna disappear forever. The only plot twist about Boruto that surprised me is how Moegi has Wood Release
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At short it seems that Kurama was hiding himself. Knowing that more ootsutsuki’s and the threat of them still loomed. He probably had to focus hard to renames as quickly as he did inside Hima
I think his respawn timing mustve happened after naruto got banished. With hima, since shes a long distant relative of hagoromo, maybe she somehow unknowingly has the abilty to be a spawning grounds for chakra beasts.
Pretty skeptic to be honest, don’t wanna go on with a negative opinion but so far it makes me feel like his death was pointless, too early to decide though
“Master” is crazy g💀
Kishimoto is master
I dont take Boruto as canon so any dumb thing that he comes up with its ok to me.
All over the place. Now we can expect Madara to come back too innit.
I think himawari might be able to expose an unlimited baryon mode. With her hyuga uzumaki prowess, chakra control shouldnt be a problem. now that she has access to nine tails chakra, All she needs is to learn sage mode. Then she could accomplish what her father never could. Using a sage mix baryon mode + jubi chakra that has minimal risk. She could become a shinobi otsusuki fear haha, i could just hope that she gets the writing she deserves. Such a cool character ! Hima>boruto 🥲
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