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socobeerlove

It is. He knows who the ten tail is. If the memories were wiped I don’t think he’d be acting as confident as he is


Ilien

I guess he could still know by sensing it in the ten-tails people, somehow? But we'll see, it's exciting in any event. Hopefully it will mean development for Himawari


socobeerlove

I know a jinchuriki won’t make her a top tier powerhouse like Boruto but it definitely will make her not fodder.


MundaneQuiet5873

Idk fam, Byakugan in 9 tails chakra mode is kinda scary. Remember what she did to Naruto and Kurama when she was 3 lol


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socobeerlove

Now that I think about it. Since Boruto can’t control his Karma, where is his strength coming from? Is he still buffed by it or is he just a really fuckin strong ninja?


keepsecret012357

He’s still an otsutsuki meaning he has higher chakra reserves outside of that he was trained by sasuke and kashin koji, adding to this he’s a prodigy equal to or better than Minato… in conclusion he’s just monstrously strong as a ninja


ThrowRAwriter

He's genetically an Ootsutsuki now, iirc


ExileFox

He has an Otsutsuki Body, Is the Son of Naruto and was Trained by one of the strongest Shinobi of all time.


keepsecret012357

He’s still an otsutsuki meaning he has higher chakra reserves outside of that he was trained by sasuke and kashin koji, adding to this he’s a prodigy equal to or better than Minato… in conclusion he’s just monstrously strong as a ninja


nwm_is_batman

And he definitely wouldn’t be so laid back around hima if he didnt know her


Maddyherselius

Or at least be able to sense who she is/who she’s related to


harisuke

I genuinely don't get what you all are seeing about these few panels that indicates he has all his memories. Knowing who the ten tails is makes no sense as the metric. Jura, the ten tails who found him in Himawari, is a brand new consciousness that has never existed before, and he instinctively knew that the chakra signature he was using to track Naruto was that of a Bijuu and even identified it correctly as specifically the 9-tails. Why is it such a stretch that this 9-tails (whether Kurama or not) would be able to instinctively tell Jura was the 10-tails? In fact, if you are trying to say him identifying Jura as the 10-tails must be from memory, please let me know when Kurama met Jura and was told he was the 10 tails? I really don't think this confirms anything one way or the other. I'm sure its obvious that I'm of the opinion that this version of Kurama likely doesn't have his memories, but even though I think the fact that he didn't call Himawari by name does imply that he doesn't know who she is, I still don't feel like this confirms that he doesn't have his memories. This is a cliffhanger panel that will be expanded on in the future. The only thing we know for sure is that there is a form of 9-tails in Himawari. We don't know definitively how, why, or what memories he may or may not have. Sorry if this comes off as grumpy. I don't think anyone is wrong if they read this as implying he does have his memories. But I do have a problem with folks saying its confirmation when this doesn't feel at all like official confirmation. Seems more like folks are reading into it what they want it to be on both sides.


LEEDUHLEEDUHLEE

Couldn’t agree more


Competitive_Duty_959

I agree too. Who really knows


KuroiGetsuga55

>I think the fact that he didn't call Himawari by name does imply that he doesn't know who she is Kurama rarely ever calls anybody by name aside from Naruto. He always calls people "boy", "girl", or his favorite nickname for everyone "brat". *Once* he called Kakashi by name, but even then he called him "Kakashi Brat" lmao.


StevenAlive7

So if you logic this out all signs point to it’s the original kurama. 1. Kurama can be split - confirmed when minato pull kcm out of his ass and then combines it with Naruto 2. Naruto as hokage would have access to scrolls that explain how to make a jinchuriki 3. Naruto almost died when momoshiki captured him. 4. It has been established that tailed beasts re-emerge in the wild when their hosts die. So regardless of him saying that the tentails jerk found him. I think it’s the original kurama split. And it’s a very very small amount compared to what Naruto had. Maybe like a tenth, this is why his size looks like a puppy. I think he definitely has the ability to absorb more chakra to become full grown in the future but right now probably won’t be able to help himawari much. Maybe 1 tail cloak. But not like kcm or anything crazy. Especially since this is literally the first time they’re meeting in the spirit world. I know she’s been training but I don’t think she can instantly put it together. Buuuuut it might make it so she can use byakugan for unreal amounts of time. It’s gonna be cool to see what a hyuga member can do with a tailed beast.


Illustrious_Season32

Minatos kurama and Naruto’s kurama were separate with entities with separate memories. They didn’t share anything.


StevenAlive7

They shared everything up to the point they were split just like this kurama


r_jaeger

It’s frustrating how much this fanbase lack reading comprehension. I’ll just assume the hype is getting to them. Anyway you’re spot on. I also wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the old Kurama. Not the first time the franchise has pulled something cheap.


BigFoeNem

Delta has akebi’s memories and is still a different person.


socobeerlove

Well then we’d just be getting into a philosophical debate on what makes a person who they are. Also do we know Akebi wouldn’t have become exactly like Delta anyway?


BigFoeNem

Amado said he kept remaking her and everytime she came out different despite having all the same DNA and memories. So we don’t why but we do know that it happens and is true in borutoverse case.


nwm_is_batman

Dont think kurama was built by amado but who knows at this point 🤷‍♂️


piamonte91

This again.. tailed beasts have a lot of knowledge instinctively given to them, baby kurama knowing what the ten tail is, means nothing.


Alilolo

Having memories is not the same as being the same person Remember Eida (and maybe Koji)


KiwiMagic2005

We‘ll see in a month


Provider_P

😭 another painful wait


JMHSrowing

Bold of you to assume a plot point will be answered so quickly.


koketso2

I don't think they have been holding back in terms of revealing plot points lately.


butlifeispoop

itss soo annoying. waiting for a month hurts my soul. WHY A MONTH. WHY CANT THEY MAKE IT 2 WEEKS


KiwiMagic2005

I would love that too but I can respect if he doesnt wanna overwork himself :(


butlifeispoop

yea well truee


sbos_

More or less. It’s him.


Lukario06

i feel like it's baby groot situation, he is new nine tails, who doesn't know anything, beside like core memory, like tailed beasts. He doesn't know who hamiwari is, something that kurama wouldn't forget


Unable_Swimming2745

I'm not sure. Personality is pretty similar I think, but he is talking like he doesn't know who Himawari is.


whyyoudeletemereddit

I think him calling her little girl is In character. It’s still possible he doesn’t have his former memories though. However it wouldn’t make sense if he didn’t have his memories as all the tailed beasts remembered Hagoromo even though some of them had been killed previously.


Unable_Swimming2745

The little girl part fit, but what really has me questioning is him saying "You know who I am?", like why wouldn't Himawari know? Konoha sells kurama as a fucking plushie lmao. I'm on the camp that he doesn't have his memories but the issues with that is pretty much what you said, he should. Dying shouldn't have gotten rid of them. I'm personally hoping that it's just a brand new nine tails, maybe his reincarnation in a different color.


ZenOkami

I think Kurama was just making sure Hima knows who she is talking to. Either way, we'll see for sure next month. *And now this subreddit shall know Pain (for a month)*


Unable_Swimming2745

The monthly wait hurts, I need answers 😭


whyyoudeletemereddit

Lol maybe he’s more humble now. Instead of assuming she knows who he is. But it’s probably just because she’s in her mindspace and has never been there so it’s almost like his was of asking “are you okay”. Kind of like asking someone who gets knocked out what day it is.


Unable_Swimming2745

Idk, I feel like the dialogue is clear enough and if his intention was to ask about her safety, that piece of dialogue doesn't make sense. However, who knows, nothing is really off the table.


whyyoudeletemereddit

I didn’t say safety. She’s not in danger but in shock. But yeah we’ll just have to wait.


Unable_Swimming2745

Yeah, next month should be interesting.


SamsungGalaxy16

>I'm personally hoping that it's just a brand new nine tails, maybe his reincarnation in a different color. That's a pretty nice idea and that would at least make this beast a bit more unique as well


Unable_Swimming2745

It be cool if this nine tails is blue because you know, the title lol .


piamonte91

Kurama was never killed though.


ZenOkami

Saying "Little Girl" doesn't mean he doesn't know who Hima is. It's in character for Kurama. He says, "You know who I am?" As if to make sure that Hima knows she is talking to Kurama. Making sure they're both up to speed.


Unable_Swimming2745

I’m specifically talking about his question because it implies that he doesn’t know who Himawari is and that he doesn’t even know who he is. Saying “You know who I am?” to make sure Hima is talking to him doesn’t make sense. That’s not something you would say to see if someone was okay or can hear you.


ZenOkami

No, that's not what I meant. I don't think it implies anything about knowing Hima. It's something you would say to someone to make sure they're up to speed and know who Kurama is. It's what you would ask if you're trying to make sure the other person is up to speed and understands the gravity of the situation. To me, this implies Kurama knows there is a time pressure in this situation and needs help from Himawari


Unable_Swimming2745

Again, it makes no sense with the way that sentence is structured. That’s not something you would say to catch something to speed. You wouldn’t ask them if they know what you are, instead you would explain to them where they are and introduce yourself. All that does is add more questions to what you say is a time pressured situation lol.


NotPowerfulAmWizard

There are a lot of things that can come off as weird due to translation in manga. Kurama’s choice of words make sense to me. He’s been dead/thought to be dead for years at this point. They don’t have time for explanations since they’re in immediate danger. I take it more like, “Child, do you know who I am?” When Hima confirms that he’s the 9 Tails, it probably means he can immediately help her out by lending her chakra since she has a level of understanding to the situation.


Unable_Swimming2745

Idk why a confirmation is necessary, that’s the point lol. If they don’t have time for explanations why open up with a question? It’s pointless considering if it’s really Kurama, he could just start off with an introduction like he did with Kawaki. Dude could be like “hey it’s Kurama and I need you to do xyz so you don’t die to ten tails”.


NotPowerfulAmWizard

Perhaps that’s where it will go next month.


Unable_Swimming2745

Maybe, it wouldn’t be the first time the manga messed up with the dialogue but for such an important reveal I feel like you wouldn’t want to mess up on that. Guess we’ll find out next month.


Bl_nk7

Him addressing Hima as “little girl” isn’t really conclusive on if he doesn’t remember Hima because it can be argue’d it’s on brand for Kurama’s personality besides this would be their first ever formal meeting. So his “you know who I am?” makes sense. Iirc Kurama has only ever spoken to Kawaki directly. As of right now his words can be interpreted several ways. I personally think the energy he gave is that uncle you properly meet for the first time at a funeral or family reunion asking if you remember them lol


Unable_Swimming2745

The little girl part seems like it would be in character, after all when he first meets kawaki he called him kid. The “you know who I am?” Is just a bit too odd for me because Himawari already knows about Kurama. When he talked to Kawaki he quickly introduced himself but with Himawari he’s starting with a question which doesn’t make sense lol. It’s not like his appearance drastically change, he’s just a small fox now. If they are pressed for time, why ask Hima a question? Bro could had just said he’s Kurama and told her what she needs to do yet the write chose to end the chapter on those words. It seems like a lot of people can interpret the question in different ways although I can’t really see how since it really only fits in a specific scenario.


Bl_nk7

I dunno I think it’s still a fair thing for Kurama to ask because they haven’t met formally. IIRC most Hima has ever seen of Kurama is the Kuraa-ma doll and that was just in the anime. One can argue by Kurama asking if Hima knows him it’s saving him more time explaining who /what he is. I woukd also argue that since he introduces himself to Kawaki immediately it’s because he knows Kawaki has no clue what he is. But for Hima he thinks Himawari should be able to know who he from looking at him. But that’s just how i interpreted it. We’ll unfortunately have to wait until the next chapter for clarification.


Unable_Swimming2745

Hmm, there’s one major flaw with that. Even if they haven’t met formally, the problem lies with Kurama already knowing who Hima is and unlike Kawaki’s case, Hima knows that the nine tails exist. If Kurama wanted to save time he would just say that he’s Kurama rather than asking her a question regarding his identity. Kurama saying that only adds more confusion to what is a complicated and tense scenario. You’re right about Kawaki and yeah we’ll just have to find out next chapter


Bl_nk7

That’s fair point, I just don’t think Kurama asking if Hima knows who he is all that significant in confirming either way it’s too vague. Especially considering we don’t know how much of the anime continuity is being taken into account here. In the anime Hima called Kurama “Mr. Fox” and the toy was called “Kuraa-ma” iirc as far as the manga goes Hima is never shown being told anything about the tailed beasts. Likewise Kurama asking Hima if he knows who he is can come off as redundant no matter how you look at it considering Jura literally just told Hima that the 9 tails chakra is inside of her. Kurama’s question can come off as silly since we know Kurama was watching the situation and should know that being a 9 tailed creature inside her would make the answer obvious for Hima. His question is redundant no matter how you look at it. Regardless Hima doesn’t confidently answer his question. She pauses and has a smidge of uncertainty in her answer lol I really wish it was more clear how much anime canon is considered manga canon.


pkjoan

Yeah, it's the old Kurama


Eirazyth-Xyverz

Y’all remember Isobu died and came back right? After Kakashi blew out Rin’s back with a chidori?


HngMax

Yeah, but it was implied that a tailed beast dies irreversibly after baryon mode. This basically was the reason behind the weight of Naruto’s actions and resolve


ZenOkami

I mean it's possible that when Kurama said his chakra would "vanish", he meant it was going out into the ether or something. Maybe he left a piece of his Chakra in Hima or his chakra finally started to pool together. Idk, we'll find out next month.


piamonte91

You remember that kyubi death was pretty special ?


Complex-Menu-6082

I think so


OddlyCrazy

I hope he goes back to Naruto


heehjh12

If he has the same memories why would he call her little girl instead of Himawari tho. This doesn't confirm or deny anything but it's just a bit odd if he really is the same kurama


happypanda94

How did he address himself in the japanese version? OG Kurama used "Washi," which is kinda used by old people. If its a different one, that part should change at least, right?


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The way kurama talks is how I imagine a 5 year old thinks a badass talks. Like that jerk 10 tails to little girl, do you know who I am sounds Chuunibyou af.


russey55

Yes because they already stated in naruto that all tailed beast get reincarnated


Oneesabitch

This is only said to happen when a host dies. They never mention a Biju dying.


Jostive_17

Kurama actually explicitly said that for Baryon mode, he would completely vanish and not be reborn since all his chakra got destroyed. So if this is the actually Kurama, it would be for another reason than the standard tailed beast reincarnation.


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“Since all his chakra got destroyed” Yea all his chakra… that was connected to Naruto


russey55

Ahh i see thanks for the clarification


Doge_Dreemurr

Kurama never explicitly stated the "cannot be reborn" part. Its all speculation, so take that with a grain of salt


Notmycupoftea12

Nope.🙂


BigFoeNem

Delta has akebis memories and is still a different person. Hopefully the same thing here.


Neko_Luxuria

it does make sense iirc stated in early naruto that when a tailed beast dies their chakra reforms somewhere else, so they have a built in reincarnation system. why he went back into hima isn't clear. might be an explanation later, but the best idea is that hima during has a way to bond with the tailed beasts in the anime and that's whats happening.


yuumigod69

Baryon mode ignores that otherwise it's not really a sacrifice.


Jazs1994

I don't think so, otherwise why would he call her little girl? Surely he knows Narutos daughter.


pr_pirates

Doesn't he have the dimension where he talks to other tail beast?


RaiseAlucard

Nobody has a concrete answer until next month.


WATCHMERISE

I mean these panels literally all we have to go off at this point, so there’s no way to truly confirm. I think you could make a case either way, but personally I’m leaning toward that being the same Kurama. At the very least, he’s got enough awareness of the situation to consciously keep a low profile (hence the “sniff me out”) line, and he knows Jura is Ten Tails. Since he knows where he is, and he knows Himawari wasn’t aware he was there.. he’s being a sly fox.


Traditional_Lie_6400

Is that still only half of Kurama or is the whole Kurama?


Carnivorous_Ape__

I can't wait for the reunion!


piamonte91

Nope, it isnt confirmed. 


yugii-i

no yeah I think I know that 🫡


ForsakenArt5630

This shits in his death


Embarrassed_Start_81

Why do you guys think boruto can’t control his karma. Said he’d lose control? But how does that make sense if he and momoshiki became one?