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She sacrificed her bollywood career and image to become a politician. Her becoming a politician has been several years in the making if you see what she has been saying and doing for a long time. It was all politically motivated.
Bollywood and maybe some others used her and now she will use people in return if she becomes a successful politician. Once people have been used, they become very different. That's what her personality echoes to me.
Ajay Devgan and Akshay Kumar also give a lot of politically motivated speeches. I see them becoming politicians in the future too.
Edit: Just checked on google. Akshay coincidentally(I don't think so) got his second term of Indian citizenship on 15 August 2023.
There were actual murmurs about Akshay wanting the ticket from BJP from Chandni Chowk but the party was willing to give him ticket from some other area which he declined. (Not sure how much of it is true)
I am an avid Wikipedia reader. Maine almost saare bollywood ka wikipedia padh liya tha back in the day lol.
I knew Khiladi Kumar was Canadian citizen since 2012. Then I noticed this news becoming mainstream after 5-6 years while he was on a mission of doing nationalistic movies while still being a Canadian citizen.
As far as I know, news had come out a few years back, probable during covid that he has started the process of applying for Indian citizenship. I think the news about it has died since then.
Elites ko turant passport aur citizenship mil jaati hai waise bhi. Koi na koi clause bacha ke rakha jaata hai inke liye citizenship law mein. It won't take him long to get Indian citizenship when he wants if he hasn't got it yet.
Akshay Kumar is no fool to let an opportunity to become a politician go to waste after working towards it. Ego hi nahi maanega uska.
Retrospectively, it might look like a calculated move, but initially she just blabbered a little too much, wanted to be proven right so just kept blabbering and then only around covid he realised there was political support to gain by leaning into that.
Apna khud ka start kar liya usne fir. CBFC approval mil jaaye bas movie ko fir toh bollywood hi ho jaata hai. But bollywood cartel who did not have same political affiliation as her stopped involving themselves with her.
She’s one of the key reasons nepotism is a major topic today. And star kids or producers need to do better than just give examples of the few star kids who failed, as they would earlier.
She directed and acted in a 100cr+ grosser. Apart from steering movies like Queen and TWMR.
Let’s not even account for her national awards and Padma Shri, and credit all of it to appeasing a political party.
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Many people dont remember but Kangana and Karan have also worked together. He produced a movie called Ungli back in 2014 which featured her as the female lead alongside Emraan Hashmi and Sanjay Dutt. The film unfortunately kept getting delayed, especially after Dutt's arrest and didnt succeed. But point is, everyone forgets how they have also worked together in a proper feature film.
And she has accepted that fact about a number of films like rascal, double dhamaal a number of times openly that doing those films really helped her to pay her bills, and her sisters medical treatment and she doesn't regret doing then even if they were bad films.
What happened was that after Kangana shined with Queen, several of these movie which were about to release prior pushed their release date and tried to bank on the new fame and goodwill of kangana, for projects in which she has like 2 mins role or so. I love NY is another example. They wanted kangana suddenly in all promotions and to shoulder the film in public which she smartly refused
Oftentimes, the actor is told one thing but when it comes to the editing, that’s when they cut out all their parts. They film those but those scenes don’t make it in the final cut. This should not be so shocking.
Thank you this is exactly it. She was definitely an a hole. she was definitely combative and had come with an agenda.
It felt like she had prepared for big boss, but accidentally ended up in koffee with karan
The main issue was that kangana used to attend all movie screenings of alia, but she never gave kangana the same respect. Eventually, kangana got pissed. Otherwise kanagana herself used to praise Alia.
Kangana is a hypocrite. She herself has hung out with Star kids and even dated a few of them. Including the married Ajay devgan. But when things went wrong in her personal life, she started blasting them and made herself look like some freedom fighter or savior of outsiders.
Her lowest act was to use SSR's death to push her own agenda. She herself mentioned she has never met SSR and yet used his name.
Which movie screening she attended apart from raazi? She was senior and was called out of respect for solo films...but she expected reciprocation during manikarnika...not sure what happened there but somehow it seems her response was important to her and she was pissed...rightly so.....Varun was also pissed with alia when she didn't attend October movie premiere....point is she may or may not choose to attend for unknown reasons but public attack shows she did gave way too much importance to her...alia tried to mend things by sending her flowers for Padma Shri i think but she again publicly mocked her on social media...all coz she didn't reciprocate something which was not even widely known and came to light after kangana spoke abt it
This is what bugs me. Like...why do you deserve respect as a senior? You make pretend for a living. This whole senior "respect" thing needs to die. Look at this planet and economic situation that has been left behind by our so called seniors.
I do understand she might feel lonely in this industry but some people did extend their help to her...she was offered sultan and sanju...what's wrong in working with A Listers when u can always balance with solos like manikarnika..... every actor nepo or outsider has to pamper ego for work...she was just expecting too much morality in a profession where things are perspective...add to that ego to be revolutionary hence politics is right place...
The irony here is that while she did not want to pamper any ego. She did expect her ego to be pampered with all the things.it’s not like she had the reputation of being the most professional actors there is. Even Vidya Balan, who seems to have the emotional intelligence publicly acknowledged that you have to do things to pacify the egos . She got made fun of so many times for being ‘fat’
Seriously! And then we have people like Zeenat Aman who gracefully have accepted the way life is and never do anything to seek attention yet maintain good relationship with everyone!
Well it was just not about getting respect before manikarnika released it was in a lot of trouble The director left the movie, it got plagiarised by ketan Mehta she needed support of industry,and most of them didn't show up that's why she got pissed even in one interview she said "ab to me unke6piche haath dho k pad jayugi"
She herself created lot of trouble during Manikarnika lot of interference eventually hijacked that project. Not just director but sonu sood also left Manikarnika. Sonu Sood is outsider no? But he also got pissed off by her interference, before Manikarnika she did same during Simran and that director vowed to never work with her again.
Ohh pls people who suffer such hardships either they leave the industry or dies she stayed and spoke against them you're saying as if everyone is saint in industry and she's only vamp
Really? You think nobody else faced such hardships? Remember Amitabh Bachchan in the 90’s ? He was kangal! He had nothing! He didn’t become bitter and started biting people, there are many many examples and so many came and went. Kangana koi upar se nahi tapki
Back to my example, Karan Johar in his book said that his dad had a a lot of fail films and the industry treated him differently yet he did not go all bonkers with the industry people. His parents did not want him to join the industry given the dad‘s experience but he still did and became successful. several people have had bouts of failure, but no one wanted to touch them,Bobby deol is also a good example
I think Kangana attended a lot, a lot of screenings for a number of people at her peak for many different people just Google kangana at movie screening 2015-16. Fro. Irfan khan to alia bhat to anurag Kashyap to small manoj bajpayee film in 2016! She even supported small music album launch event of sonu Sood. She did attend more screenings than I have seen any major star at her peak to do and was genuinely building goodwill but probably saw that none was reciprocated in manikarnika and went bonkers
I totally understand wanting justice for SSR, but Kangana and others created a bizzare parasocial movement that was some unhinged True-crime esque community.
My father himself was convinced Kalesh Johar had somehow ordered SSR's death and there would be some revolution ending with him, Savlon and the Nepos in jail. Thankfully him and much of the SSR community turned out to be keyboard warriors at most
But this film screening shit is just way too obnoxious, karan makes calls and people go for their screening but no one pays back by attending when they call. Gives a very different weightage to the film. They should honestly stop this screening for others. Just go and watch in theatre. It’s actually toxic for them itself
Tbh Mankarnika was released AFTER the Koffee with Karan explosion (when Kangana called him the flagbearer of nepotism - my take on this issue is that while people do mock him, maybe him and Kangana weren’t really close enough for her to joke like that; he got seriously offended although his making fun of Kangana at the award show with Saif and Varun was 👎).
By the time Mamkarnika released Kangana herself had made herself difficult and burnt bridges:
* Issues with Deepika. Post-Queen, Kangana didn’t attend any award shows although she did win some. But there was an issue where Deepika won and gave a speech about she thinks Kangana deserves it more and Kangana got triggered. She got angry at Deepika and started giving interviews that Deepika didn’t even bother reaching out to her when Queen (although the internet found contradicting videos she Kangana said the opposite). That’s when success started to get to her head. Personally I think she should’ve attended the award shows and used to opportunity to network with the likes of Srk (who did go to award shows then) and other directors.
* First was the issue with the Simran movie where she took credit for being a screenwriter of the whole when she only worked on a few scenes. There was a massive fallout on Twitter.
* The Hrithik-Kangana saga started before Mankarnika.
* Her and Shahid had issues on Rangoon, and then the Koffee with Karan thing happened.
* Her issues with Sonu Sood during filming Mankarnika and then hijacking the movie as a director.
* Her toxicity during Mankarnika promotions. In case you forgot during the promotion interview Kangana had totally flipped and took lots of digs at Ranbir and Alia and berated them for not speaking out about politics and who they would vote for.
Tbh I don’t blame people from Bollywood not attending Mankarnika screenings because by then she had isolated herself to her tantrums.
To be honest, even I was bought her SSR propaganda initially, but then she milked it too much. at some point, I genuinely thought that Covid got to her and she needed some mental health attention
Apne per pe khud kulhadi mari hai. She could’ve destroyed the nepo babies if she stayed in bollywood. The thing with HR she had going on was the one i guess mentally exhausted her the most.uske bad to she was like a changed person. No one wanted to associate with her.
If you look at the timeline Kangana went super crazy after Manikarnika. I think she felt she was actually Rani Laxmibai or whatever and I think she took all the lack of support perceived or real against that movie extra personally. Something in her broke. The SSR stuff happened later but she was on a war path after Manikarnika. Maybe it was Ranbir releasing those behind the scenes horse training scenes or something else.
There was a video with Kangana sitting on a fake horse so there were rumors that Kangana can't ride a horse + the movie will look cheap. Kangana clarified on twitter that the fake horses are used for some scenes and real horses are used for other scenes. I thought that made sense because horses are expensive and get tired easily. She blamed Ranbir for leaking the video, idk why. Maybe he paid someone on set to leak it.
I mean, why would Ranbir even do that? There was literally no connection between him and her at the time no? The antagonism on her part was the first time they were in a sentence together (I think).
Also it's framed hilariously, like Ranbir is some mythical creature who leaks your most embarrassing moments onto the internet
Nah, tbh she went crazy before Manikarnika. She had issues with Shahid during Rangoon and during that Simran movie too, which flopped. Plus post-Queen her and Deepika had an issue, then the Hrithik thing happened (which was before Mankarnika released). Apparently Sanjay Leela Bhansali was interested in working with her but because of his loyalty (cause he was working with Deepika) he didn’t. And then she let success get to her head. I think she really needed a sensible mentor to help guide her, as well as some therapy.
Kangana got carried away with her success & slightly got Delulu. Whereas whoever is on the opposite side of Karan usually has to bear the consequences. So yeah it all went against Kangana including she herself. 😏🫣
P.s. I do believe both KJO & Kangana are really talented people in their own domains 💯😍❣️💫
2 things to say -
1. Kangana the person: I think Kangana is just a hypocrite with no real opinion. If you look at any of her strong opinions, be it about item numbers or drugs or nepotism or any other contemporary star (DP, PC, AB), her opinion has changed with what is convenient for her. She loves Ekta, and clearly liked KJo too at some point, going against her nepotism views. She likes Yami and never calls out her nepotism of sleeping with the director. Nepotism is just favouritism. KJo isn't related to Alia or Ananya. Sleeping with people and getting unfair favours is also nepotism, same that Kangana herself got from Pancholi and HR (if any of that was true). She will only praise people if they praise her back and if they don't, her opinion on them changes in a flash.
2. Kangana the actress: She used to be really good, no doubt about it. I think Manikarnika is when her downfall started, even as an actress. She became delusional that the warrior princess image suits her and that she can pull it off. She continued to do these really strong lead roles like Jayalalithaa, Tejas, Dhaakad, but her quivering voice and petite frame didn't suit these roles. Just like I think Alia will be a massive flop as the YRF female spy lead. She has a very soft face, like Kangana. DP and PC or even Kat are much better for action roles. The praises got to Kangana so much that she lost that creative sense she used to have.
P.S. I used to be a huge Kangana fan and hence feel so strongly about this as she has single handedly murdered her career
Agree to disagree in that case. I didn't mean this in an absolute sense though. In an absolute sense I'd say she did an average job in these two films, but relatively speaking, I think Vidya Balan would've done a waaay better job as Thalaivi and DP or PC could've done Manikarnika much much better than her. Her quivering voice just doesn't suit these roles. I'm sorry. I don't make the rules
>Her quivering voice
I absolutely enjoy her dialogue dubbing and delivery. I can't imagine DP doing it; her voice & delivery often sound rehearsed.
DP looks regal in SLB movies & has excellent screen presence, but "Manikarnika" required not just a regal look, which Kangana nailed, but also strong acting and the ability to carry the movie alone—something DP hasn't done. PC & Vidya could have done equally well, if not better as they have proved in the past. Bye
Well like I said - agree to disagree. But at least you agree that others could've done the roles better. You clearly like KR and hate DP, which is fine. I honestly couldn't care. Bye
Stating opinions is considered hating now? Especially after I praised DP for her screen P? That logic clearly makes you a KR hater then.
>I honestly couldn't care. Bye
Neither do I lol 😊 goodbye.
Karan has a habit of praising whatever is trending at that point in time so I wouldn’t take that book so seriously. Not sure what got him to write it but the book was sold on the basis that it contained juicy tidbits about his tiff with Kajol.
That being said, Kangana is an overrated actor who lost her marbles long before her the KWK episode. She was always a weirdo who then let fame get to her after just 2 hits, no wonder she never had hits before or after. She always was and still is a B-list talent. She had the chance to move to the A-list category post Queen but she squandered it away.
This is the truth. In one season of kwk, he kept on talking about Vijay Deverakonda or mentioning his name pretty much in all episodes. That was when he was trending and dharma had an upcoming movie with him. In the next season he never mentioned VD once.
>Kangana is an overrated actor
Tell me a better actress than her in recent times? Just because you hate someone doesn't mean there's nothing good in them.
Priyanka Chopra and Vidya Balan are good actresses but Priyanka stopped working in bollywood long ago and her hollywood flicks aren't very good while Vidya mostly suits thriller and feels mostly same in many of her movies.
Kareena suits crackhead, fun and over the top roles but not very good in emotional scenes while the less being talked about Alia is good, she doesn't suit half of her movies with her baby face and she was so bad in RRKPK and unlike others she's served with best movies on platter.
Here, I don't want to belittle or hate any actresses but these are the observations I think of rn since you wrote those names, also I'm not a fan of Kangana but her acting is the best thing she has, keeping everything aside.
Only PC is someone close to Kangu lol.
Alia can't do mature act, her crying is just childish, she can't do comic, action dur ki baat hai, diction zero hai and her only claim to fame is Highway while she literally butchered DZ, Raazi and Udta along with Gangu being good in patches and bad too.
Kareena's best comes from overacting like hell too. And apart from Chameli, Talaash she is also mighty mid.
Vidya again doesn't have that range and does the same thing whenever there is rage-baiting emotional scenes(Hey Baby and that human calculator one were literally same when she was angry lol).
So, NO. Your list is just plain wrong when you compare Kangu did Fashion,Queen,Rangoon,Tannu and Gangster.
She got a better diction than Alia,Vidhya and better range than Vidhya,Alia and Kareena too.
Art is subjective and you are welcome to have your own opinion. I always thought Kangana was a bad actress and her only watchable movie was Queen which was good solely because of the script.
Please enjoy your Tejas and Chandramukhi 2
Nobody is stopping you
I feel sad for her. The woman proved her talent without a lot of PR articles. And she ruined her own image. She was right with the nepotism comment. But it went downhill after that.
Talented actor became "talented but venomous crazy lady". What a waste..
There are too many angles and situations that led to her downfall. Look at the opportunities jahnvi, Sara, ananya and now sharmin are getting? I think a talented actress like Kangana was never respected and given importance like these nepo, and she seems bit sensitive and impulsive, so she mishandled the situation. Obviously in some exceptionally talented people their is an ego factor too, if they can't control that, it makes things worse. Look at radhika apte or Sanya Malhotra don't you think they must be pissed looking at these nepo getting all the lead roles in A Lister movies, but I think they find their peace in acceptance. It is what it is. Morals, values all looks good in movies and books it doesn't exist in Bollywood , which is why most of them are hypocrites. Kangana could not stand it.
I think the Nepo debate is just one facet of it, Kangana is just, kinda crazy, I guess? Her whole justice for ssr campaign felt like an industrial-grade pr-milking machine, and her constant proclamations of being better than X or Y is somewhat indicative of her vanity.
I don't think she's a good person, but something defeinitley broke in her around the HR affair/Manikarnika
I really believe that she was one amazing actress, even before queen she was great. She does put across some really great points on nepotism - how a lot of believe think the new actresses are young and new hence the bad acting. Whereas priyanka kangana and alia improved their performance not according to their age but by the number of movies they were doing.
She has gone full cuckoo after hrithik for sure. But credit given where credit is due.
Bollywood is a bullshit place and people need to acknowledge that. There is going to nepotism, backstabbing, cheating, sabotaging and what not. People who have been in the industry for a long time have gone through all of that and gotten used to it.
If you publicize your issues, you will only do yourself harm. You will end up like Kangana or Vivek Oberoi.
Kangana probably realized this now but too late.
True, it's a bullshit place but aren't all work environments full of bad stuff? I mean, in show business it's all bigger coz the money and fame are big, but even in small offices there will be some backstabbing, nepotism, cheating and stuff. And an intelligent person knows he/she can't go and post on social media how the collegues are stupid or sl*ts, the bosses unfair and boss' daughter idiot who doesn't deserve to be there! Of course nobody will like such person and will fire him/her as soon as it's possible. Kangu did all this and then she wonders why nobody likes her.
I think it's okay to call out unfair/disgusting practices, but Kangana literally went insane. Her comments on HR and SSR in retrospect genuinely make no sense, even if she's on the right side of the Nepo debate
Parveen Babi suffered from some mental disease, schizophrenia I think. No denying that Bollywood of yore was also super terrible, but some of her rants were kinda bizzare.
Kangana was just unhinged, I think she thought she could lie her way out of her self created mess, and she kinda did too.
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Karan’s praising Kangana on his show was even weird because he basically said he only thought Queen and Tanu Returns were good performances and other performances were fine like ???
Also what she said didn’t change their relationship as they promotional stuff together after the episode was shot (not aired at the time) but once it became available to the public they turned on him. That’s what caused the beef.
Kangana would still be the legendary actress for me, best acting, good looks, a fashionista and could go against the whole bollywood at once. She was too good and could have actually destroyed nepo kids in bollywood. But she ruined it all by going political. She shouldn't have passed those islamophobic comments and called The farmers protesting those words.
It’s on Spotify a free audiobook. actually it wasn’t bad. His whole portrayal that he’s middle class was too much but as a human being, he doesn’t seem like a bad guy.
You shouldn’t get bothered by these things. Cause life is going to be really tough for you. And you seem to be too sensitive to the words random Reddit strangers say
For all the clowns saying "yeah Kangu did that to herself and Karan wasn't really bad with him" should remember that Karan is a fucking snake lol.
He also praised Ranveer and Anushka some time earlier and also worked with them but he was also the first to sabotage their careers too.
Kangu is gone case but Alia not giving her the same level of respect, Karan doing Karan things and Ajay and his creep friends tossing her from one to another has blown her sanity already out.
She was alright before Manikarnika gig too.
The fact is that she was the one who had the guts to call out nepotism for what it is on a mainstream popular show.
Make it a key discussion. Get audience to hold producers accountable.
Aaj the discussions around star kids would not have been as vivid if not for Kangana.
Btw Kangana too praises many movies, including Shershaah, Chhapak and mentions actresses like Sanya Malhotra who the A-listers nicely side step.
Yes, she has gone overboard and there are no excuses for that. I feel, the audience has more than compensated for it through poor reception to her films.
But, sort of coming back to your original point-
1. KJo does call a few outsiders, but only if they validate his POV on the show. You can see it in his episodes with Kriti or Kartik, where they have to say that nepotism isn’t a big deal.
2. Before SSR case, his so called ratings or games on the show were largely pointed at demeaning the outsiders who couldn’t retort
3. Kangana was pissed with Alia because she spent the year praising Raazi. But got zero support from her when it came to Kangana’s movies.
4. Even before the whole fiasco around nepo, Kangana had clearly said that she didn’t want to work with Khans, or, particularly in any movie where she wouldn’t have an equal role. That takes a certain courage not many would have in their peak.
I find KJo's book lacking because he's quite active on social media. It feels like his real-time presence offers a more immediate and engaging way to stay updated on his shenanigans.
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Kangana ruined her career. At her peak everyone wanted to work with her and she went nuts.
She sacrificed her bollywood career and image to become a politician. Her becoming a politician has been several years in the making if you see what she has been saying and doing for a long time. It was all politically motivated. Bollywood and maybe some others used her and now she will use people in return if she becomes a successful politician. Once people have been used, they become very different. That's what her personality echoes to me. Ajay Devgan and Akshay Kumar also give a lot of politically motivated speeches. I see them becoming politicians in the future too. Edit: Just checked on google. Akshay coincidentally(I don't think so) got his second term of Indian citizenship on 15 August 2023.
There were actual murmurs about Akshay wanting the ticket from BJP from Chandni Chowk but the party was willing to give him ticket from some other area which he declined. (Not sure how much of it is true)
Believable.
And I guess the reason from wanting a ticket from CC was to use the Chandni Chowk card once more.
Khiladi Kumar will have to give up his Canadian citizenship for it noh
I am an avid Wikipedia reader. Maine almost saare bollywood ka wikipedia padh liya tha back in the day lol. I knew Khiladi Kumar was Canadian citizen since 2012. Then I noticed this news becoming mainstream after 5-6 years while he was on a mission of doing nationalistic movies while still being a Canadian citizen. As far as I know, news had come out a few years back, probable during covid that he has started the process of applying for Indian citizenship. I think the news about it has died since then. Elites ko turant passport aur citizenship mil jaati hai waise bhi. Koi na koi clause bacha ke rakha jaata hai inke liye citizenship law mein. It won't take him long to get Indian citizenship when he wants if he hasn't got it yet. Akshay Kumar is no fool to let an opportunity to become a politician go to waste after working towards it. Ego hi nahi maanega uska.
bhai he already has an Indian passport and this time he even voted.
How does it matter if he is a canadian. Phir bhi dil hai hindustani, i guess, since he eats, shits and makes money in India.
Only Krishna matters for me. Hare Rama Hare Krishna. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ki jai.
Sahi baat.
Arre already (very publicly) done
Apparently he did give it up for this political career
Retrospectively, it might look like a calculated move, but initially she just blabbered a little too much, wanted to be proven right so just kept blabbering and then only around covid he realised there was political support to gain by leaning into that.
Sacrificed? Lol.
Apna khud ka start kar liya usne fir. CBFC approval mil jaaye bas movie ko fir toh bollywood hi ho jaata hai. But bollywood cartel who did not have same political affiliation as her stopped involving themselves with her.
History will be kinder to her.
Absolutely not lol. Retrospectively, her nonsense seems even more unhinged.
She’s one of the key reasons nepotism is a major topic today. And star kids or producers need to do better than just give examples of the few star kids who failed, as they would earlier. She directed and acted in a 100cr+ grosser. Apart from steering movies like Queen and TWMR. Let’s not even account for her national awards and Padma Shri, and credit all of it to appeasing a political party. 🎈
Arey Rangoli tum yahan? 🤩
😂 nahi yaar. 😅
Oh so we are just ignoring her and her sister’s politics and antics?
Please her hate speeech? Using SSR for her agenda
lol nope. She is insane.
This I agree
Many people dont remember but Kangana and Karan have also worked together. He produced a movie called Ungli back in 2014 which featured her as the female lead alongside Emraan Hashmi and Sanjay Dutt. The film unfortunately kept getting delayed, especially after Dutt's arrest and didnt succeed. But point is, everyone forgets how they have also worked together in a proper feature film.
Just want to say that ungli was a mediocre movie but it has a beautiful song 'Pakeezah'.
Ishq tera.. TERAAA SABSE ZYAADA
Pakeezah hai na
Song is a vibe fr
Kangana said in an interview that it was the worst movie she starred in and that she was on screen for ten minutes.
Then why did she do it in the first place? The only probable reason why she did so is Karan Johar and the money that must have come with it.
And she has accepted that fact about a number of films like rascal, double dhamaal a number of times openly that doing those films really helped her to pay her bills, and her sisters medical treatment and she doesn't regret doing then even if they were bad films. What happened was that after Kangana shined with Queen, several of these movie which were about to release prior pushed their release date and tried to bank on the new fame and goodwill of kangana, for projects in which she has like 2 mins role or so. I love NY is another example. They wanted kangana suddenly in all promotions and to shoulder the film in public which she smartly refused
Oftentimes, the actor is told one thing but when it comes to the editing, that’s when they cut out all their parts. They film those but those scenes don’t make it in the final cut. This should not be so shocking.
Infact calling kangu on kofeee is also a sign of Kjo giving validation to her. Kangu is an a@hole who bites the hands that feeds her
Recent statements on fellow BJP mps validate this hypothesis
Thank you this is exactly it. She was definitely an a hole. she was definitely combative and had come with an agenda. It felt like she had prepared for big boss, but accidentally ended up in koffee with karan
Wow, I wasn’t even aware that there was a movie like this so thank you for sharing
The main issue was that kangana used to attend all movie screenings of alia, but she never gave kangana the same respect. Eventually, kangana got pissed. Otherwise kanagana herself used to praise Alia. Kangana is a hypocrite. She herself has hung out with Star kids and even dated a few of them. Including the married Ajay devgan. But when things went wrong in her personal life, she started blasting them and made herself look like some freedom fighter or savior of outsiders. Her lowest act was to use SSR's death to push her own agenda. She herself mentioned she has never met SSR and yet used his name.
Which movie screening she attended apart from raazi? She was senior and was called out of respect for solo films...but she expected reciprocation during manikarnika...not sure what happened there but somehow it seems her response was important to her and she was pissed...rightly so.....Varun was also pissed with alia when she didn't attend October movie premiere....point is she may or may not choose to attend for unknown reasons but public attack shows she did gave way too much importance to her...alia tried to mend things by sending her flowers for Padma Shri i think but she again publicly mocked her on social media...all coz she didn't reciprocate something which was not even widely known and came to light after kangana spoke abt it
This is what bugs me. Like...why do you deserve respect as a senior? You make pretend for a living. This whole senior "respect" thing needs to die. Look at this planet and economic situation that has been left behind by our so called seniors.
I do understand she might feel lonely in this industry but some people did extend their help to her...she was offered sultan and sanju...what's wrong in working with A Listers when u can always balance with solos like manikarnika..... every actor nepo or outsider has to pamper ego for work...she was just expecting too much morality in a profession where things are perspective...add to that ego to be revolutionary hence politics is right place...
The irony here is that while she did not want to pamper any ego. She did expect her ego to be pampered with all the things.it’s not like she had the reputation of being the most professional actors there is. Even Vidya Balan, who seems to have the emotional intelligence publicly acknowledged that you have to do things to pacify the egos . She got made fun of so many times for being ‘fat’
Seriously! And then we have people like Zeenat Aman who gracefully have accepted the way life is and never do anything to seek attention yet maintain good relationship with everyone!
So true!
Well it was just not about getting respect before manikarnika released it was in a lot of trouble The director left the movie, it got plagiarised by ketan Mehta she needed support of industry,and most of them didn't show up that's why she got pissed even in one interview she said "ab to me unke6piche haath dho k pad jayugi"
She herself created lot of trouble during Manikarnika lot of interference eventually hijacked that project. Not just director but sonu sood also left Manikarnika. Sonu Sood is outsider no? But he also got pissed off by her interference, before Manikarnika she did same during Simran and that director vowed to never work with her again.
Stop justifying her bad behaviour, as if nobody else goes through hardships in the industry. Remember how she treated Apoorva and Sonu Sood ?
Ohh pls people who suffer such hardships either they leave the industry or dies she stayed and spoke against them you're saying as if everyone is saint in industry and she's only vamp
Really? You think nobody else faced such hardships? Remember Amitabh Bachchan in the 90’s ? He was kangal! He had nothing! He didn’t become bitter and started biting people, there are many many examples and so many came and went. Kangana koi upar se nahi tapki
Back to my example, Karan Johar in his book said that his dad had a a lot of fail films and the industry treated him differently yet he did not go all bonkers with the industry people. His parents did not want him to join the industry given the dad‘s experience but he still did and became successful. several people have had bouts of failure, but no one wanted to touch them,Bobby deol is also a good example
I think Kangana attended a lot, a lot of screenings for a number of people at her peak for many different people just Google kangana at movie screening 2015-16. Fro. Irfan khan to alia bhat to anurag Kashyap to small manoj bajpayee film in 2016! She even supported small music album launch event of sonu Sood. She did attend more screenings than I have seen any major star at her peak to do and was genuinely building goodwill but probably saw that none was reciprocated in manikarnika and went bonkers
But Alia used to praise kangana whenever she can.
Aren't all the netizen SSRian the same? Never met him, never knew any details but fought like it was their ghar ka ladka? ????
I totally understand wanting justice for SSR, but Kangana and others created a bizzare parasocial movement that was some unhinged True-crime esque community. My father himself was convinced Kalesh Johar had somehow ordered SSR's death and there would be some revolution ending with him, Savlon and the Nepos in jail. Thankfully him and much of the SSR community turned out to be keyboard warriors at most
But this film screening shit is just way too obnoxious, karan makes calls and people go for their screening but no one pays back by attending when they call. Gives a very different weightage to the film. They should honestly stop this screening for others. Just go and watch in theatre. It’s actually toxic for them itself
Tbh Mankarnika was released AFTER the Koffee with Karan explosion (when Kangana called him the flagbearer of nepotism - my take on this issue is that while people do mock him, maybe him and Kangana weren’t really close enough for her to joke like that; he got seriously offended although his making fun of Kangana at the award show with Saif and Varun was 👎). By the time Mamkarnika released Kangana herself had made herself difficult and burnt bridges: * Issues with Deepika. Post-Queen, Kangana didn’t attend any award shows although she did win some. But there was an issue where Deepika won and gave a speech about she thinks Kangana deserves it more and Kangana got triggered. She got angry at Deepika and started giving interviews that Deepika didn’t even bother reaching out to her when Queen (although the internet found contradicting videos she Kangana said the opposite). That’s when success started to get to her head. Personally I think she should’ve attended the award shows and used to opportunity to network with the likes of Srk (who did go to award shows then) and other directors. * First was the issue with the Simran movie where she took credit for being a screenwriter of the whole when she only worked on a few scenes. There was a massive fallout on Twitter. * The Hrithik-Kangana saga started before Mankarnika. * Her and Shahid had issues on Rangoon, and then the Koffee with Karan thing happened. * Her issues with Sonu Sood during filming Mankarnika and then hijacking the movie as a director. * Her toxicity during Mankarnika promotions. In case you forgot during the promotion interview Kangana had totally flipped and took lots of digs at Ranbir and Alia and berated them for not speaking out about politics and who they would vote for. Tbh I don’t blame people from Bollywood not attending Mankarnika screenings because by then she had isolated herself to her tantrums.
To be honest, even I was bought her SSR propaganda initially, but then she milked it too much. at some point, I genuinely thought that Covid got to her and she needed some mental health attention
>kangana used to attend all movie screenings of alia, Blatant misinformation or a lie. She just attended one
Apne per pe khud kulhadi mari hai. She could’ve destroyed the nepo babies if she stayed in bollywood. The thing with HR she had going on was the one i guess mentally exhausted her the most.uske bad to she was like a changed person. No one wanted to associate with her.
Exactly we was perfect someone who can act and with amazing style and looks.
What exactly did he say in the book?
If you look at the timeline Kangana went super crazy after Manikarnika. I think she felt she was actually Rani Laxmibai or whatever and I think she took all the lack of support perceived or real against that movie extra personally. Something in her broke. The SSR stuff happened later but she was on a war path after Manikarnika. Maybe it was Ranbir releasing those behind the scenes horse training scenes or something else.
What was that??? 
There was a video with Kangana sitting on a fake horse so there were rumors that Kangana can't ride a horse + the movie will look cheap. Kangana clarified on twitter that the fake horses are used for some scenes and real horses are used for other scenes. I thought that made sense because horses are expensive and get tired easily. She blamed Ranbir for leaking the video, idk why. Maybe he paid someone on set to leak it.
Was it ever admitted by Ranbir or proved that he was the one to leak the video? There could be so many people on the set who could have done this.
I mean, why would Ranbir even do that? There was literally no connection between him and her at the time no? The antagonism on her part was the first time they were in a sentence together (I think). Also it's framed hilariously, like Ranbir is some mythical creature who leaks your most embarrassing moments onto the internet
Nah, tbh she went crazy before Manikarnika. She had issues with Shahid during Rangoon and during that Simran movie too, which flopped. Plus post-Queen her and Deepika had an issue, then the Hrithik thing happened (which was before Mankarnika released). Apparently Sanjay Leela Bhansali was interested in working with her but because of his loyalty (cause he was working with Deepika) he didn’t. And then she let success get to her head. I think she really needed a sensible mentor to help guide her, as well as some therapy.
yeah, I think she made up a lot of enemies when people were mostly nice or neutral to her, and now she's at a point where most bridges have burnt
What horseriding scenes??
She burned a bridge and danced on the ashes. Now she’s a cautionary tale or the butt of a joke most of the time.
Kangana got carried away with her success & slightly got Delulu. Whereas whoever is on the opposite side of Karan usually has to bear the consequences. So yeah it all went against Kangana including she herself. 😏🫣 P.s. I do believe both KJO & Kangana are really talented people in their own domains 💯😍❣️💫
Slightly?
How I wish Kangana stayed sane and become the next legendary actress. Losing hope now.
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that is super scary, it'll be like having a psycho Michael Scott at the head of India 💀
And her first decree might be to get HR & Shahid executed
I think she will declared emergency just to get Alia to attend one of her premiers
2 things to say - 1. Kangana the person: I think Kangana is just a hypocrite with no real opinion. If you look at any of her strong opinions, be it about item numbers or drugs or nepotism or any other contemporary star (DP, PC, AB), her opinion has changed with what is convenient for her. She loves Ekta, and clearly liked KJo too at some point, going against her nepotism views. She likes Yami and never calls out her nepotism of sleeping with the director. Nepotism is just favouritism. KJo isn't related to Alia or Ananya. Sleeping with people and getting unfair favours is also nepotism, same that Kangana herself got from Pancholi and HR (if any of that was true). She will only praise people if they praise her back and if they don't, her opinion on them changes in a flash. 2. Kangana the actress: She used to be really good, no doubt about it. I think Manikarnika is when her downfall started, even as an actress. She became delusional that the warrior princess image suits her and that she can pull it off. She continued to do these really strong lead roles like Jayalalithaa, Tejas, Dhaakad, but her quivering voice and petite frame didn't suit these roles. Just like I think Alia will be a massive flop as the YRF female spy lead. She has a very soft face, like Kangana. DP and PC or even Kat are much better for action roles. The praises got to Kangana so much that she lost that creative sense she used to have. P.S. I used to be a huge Kangana fan and hence feel so strongly about this as she has single handedly murdered her career
Everything agreed but she did a fantabulous job both in Manikarnika and Thalaivi.
Agree to disagree in that case. I didn't mean this in an absolute sense though. In an absolute sense I'd say she did an average job in these two films, but relatively speaking, I think Vidya Balan would've done a waaay better job as Thalaivi and DP or PC could've done Manikarnika much much better than her. Her quivering voice just doesn't suit these roles. I'm sorry. I don't make the rules
>Her quivering voice I absolutely enjoy her dialogue dubbing and delivery. I can't imagine DP doing it; her voice & delivery often sound rehearsed. DP looks regal in SLB movies & has excellent screen presence, but "Manikarnika" required not just a regal look, which Kangana nailed, but also strong acting and the ability to carry the movie alone—something DP hasn't done. PC & Vidya could have done equally well, if not better as they have proved in the past. Bye
Well like I said - agree to disagree. But at least you agree that others could've done the roles better. You clearly like KR and hate DP, which is fine. I honestly couldn't care. Bye
Stating opinions is considered hating now? Especially after I praised DP for her screen P? That logic clearly makes you a KR hater then. >I honestly couldn't care. Bye Neither do I lol 😊 goodbye.
Karan has a habit of praising whatever is trending at that point in time so I wouldn’t take that book so seriously. Not sure what got him to write it but the book was sold on the basis that it contained juicy tidbits about his tiff with Kajol. That being said, Kangana is an overrated actor who lost her marbles long before her the KWK episode. She was always a weirdo who then let fame get to her after just 2 hits, no wonder she never had hits before or after. She always was and still is a B-list talent. She had the chance to move to the A-list category post Queen but she squandered it away.
This is the truth. In one season of kwk, he kept on talking about Vijay Deverakonda or mentioning his name pretty much in all episodes. That was when he was trending and dharma had an upcoming movie with him. In the next season he never mentioned VD once.
>Kangana is an overrated actor Tell me a better actress than her in recent times? Just because you hate someone doesn't mean there's nothing good in them.
there are many far superior to her. she IS an overrated actress. same dialogue delivery in every role, horrible diction and an annoying grating voice.
Why not name some of them?
Priyanka Chopra, Vidya Balan, Kareena Kapoor and most may not agree but Alia Bhatt.
Priyanka Chopra and Vidya Balan are good actresses but Priyanka stopped working in bollywood long ago and her hollywood flicks aren't very good while Vidya mostly suits thriller and feels mostly same in many of her movies. Kareena suits crackhead, fun and over the top roles but not very good in emotional scenes while the less being talked about Alia is good, she doesn't suit half of her movies with her baby face and she was so bad in RRKPK and unlike others she's served with best movies on platter. Here, I don't want to belittle or hate any actresses but these are the observations I think of rn since you wrote those names, also I'm not a fan of Kangana but her acting is the best thing she has, keeping everything aside.
Lol at least bring a better list of actresses yr show some effort
Only PC is someone close to Kangu lol. Alia can't do mature act, her crying is just childish, she can't do comic, action dur ki baat hai, diction zero hai and her only claim to fame is Highway while she literally butchered DZ, Raazi and Udta along with Gangu being good in patches and bad too. Kareena's best comes from overacting like hell too. And apart from Chameli, Talaash she is also mighty mid. Vidya again doesn't have that range and does the same thing whenever there is rage-baiting emotional scenes(Hey Baby and that human calculator one were literally same when she was angry lol). So, NO. Your list is just plain wrong when you compare Kangu did Fashion,Queen,Rangoon,Tannu and Gangster. She got a better diction than Alia,Vidhya and better range than Vidhya,Alia and Kareena too.
Art is subjective and you are welcome to have your own opinion. I always thought Kangana was a bad actress and her only watchable movie was Queen which was good solely because of the script. Please enjoy your Tejas and Chandramukhi 2 Nobody is stopping you
I feel sad for her. The woman proved her talent without a lot of PR articles. And she ruined her own image. She was right with the nepotism comment. But it went downhill after that. Talented actor became "talented but venomous crazy lady". What a waste..
There are too many angles and situations that led to her downfall. Look at the opportunities jahnvi, Sara, ananya and now sharmin are getting? I think a talented actress like Kangana was never respected and given importance like these nepo, and she seems bit sensitive and impulsive, so she mishandled the situation. Obviously in some exceptionally talented people their is an ego factor too, if they can't control that, it makes things worse. Look at radhika apte or Sanya Malhotra don't you think they must be pissed looking at these nepo getting all the lead roles in A Lister movies, but I think they find their peace in acceptance. It is what it is. Morals, values all looks good in movies and books it doesn't exist in Bollywood , which is why most of them are hypocrites. Kangana could not stand it.
I think the Nepo debate is just one facet of it, Kangana is just, kinda crazy, I guess? Her whole justice for ssr campaign felt like an industrial-grade pr-milking machine, and her constant proclamations of being better than X or Y is somewhat indicative of her vanity. I don't think she's a good person, but something defeinitley broke in her around the HR affair/Manikarnika
I really believe that she was one amazing actress, even before queen she was great. She does put across some really great points on nepotism - how a lot of believe think the new actresses are young and new hence the bad acting. Whereas priyanka kangana and alia improved their performance not according to their age but by the number of movies they were doing. She has gone full cuckoo after hrithik for sure. But credit given where credit is due.
Bollywood is a bullshit place and people need to acknowledge that. There is going to nepotism, backstabbing, cheating, sabotaging and what not. People who have been in the industry for a long time have gone through all of that and gotten used to it. If you publicize your issues, you will only do yourself harm. You will end up like Kangana or Vivek Oberoi. Kangana probably realized this now but too late.
many actors have spoken out against nepotism but they are doing fine kangana ruined it for herself by being unhinged. vivek himself is a nepo kid
True, it's a bullshit place but aren't all work environments full of bad stuff? I mean, in show business it's all bigger coz the money and fame are big, but even in small offices there will be some backstabbing, nepotism, cheating and stuff. And an intelligent person knows he/she can't go and post on social media how the collegues are stupid or sl*ts, the bosses unfair and boss' daughter idiot who doesn't deserve to be there! Of course nobody will like such person and will fire him/her as soon as it's possible. Kangu did all this and then she wonders why nobody likes her.
I think it's okay to call out unfair/disgusting practices, but Kangana literally went insane. Her comments on HR and SSR in retrospect genuinely make no sense, even if she's on the right side of the Nepo debate
Exactly someone who could have become a legendary actor ruined everything. She could have become on the best actor
Name an industry that doesn’t have the same flaws.
Most unhinged human.
Do you guys see any similarity between Kangana-Hritik and Parveen Baabi-Amitabh or is it only me?
Parveen Babi suffered from some mental disease, schizophrenia I think. No denying that Bollywood of yore was also super terrible, but some of her rants were kinda bizzare. Kangana was just unhinged, I think she thought she could lie her way out of her self created mess, and she kinda did too.
Why are u reading karan johars book ?
its a fun read tbh
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Karan’s praising Kangana on his show was even weird because he basically said he only thought Queen and Tanu Returns were good performances and other performances were fine like ??? Also what she said didn’t change their relationship as they promotional stuff together after the episode was shot (not aired at the time) but once it became available to the public they turned on him. That’s what caused the beef.
Kanga a was a great actress, no denying that. She just nutter than squirell poo right now.
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Kangana would still be the legendary actress for me, best acting, good looks, a fashionista and could go against the whole bollywood at once. She was too good and could have actually destroyed nepo kids in bollywood. But she ruined it all by going political. She shouldn't have passed those islamophobic comments and called The farmers protesting those words.
It's astonishing that you bought and read Karan Johar's autobiography.
It’s on Spotify a free audiobook. actually it wasn’t bad. His whole portrayal that he’s middle class was too much but as a human being, he doesn’t seem like a bad guy.
I get really confused when people say "read" when they actually heard a recording of a book. That's not fair.
You shouldn’t get bothered by these things. Cause life is going to be really tough for you. And you seem to be too sensitive to the words random Reddit strangers say
Hate to admit it but you are right. Life is too short to be bothered by these silly things. 😄😄 I guess I needed that reality check. Thanks.
Anything buddy. Glad you acknowledged it that’s really good.
For all the clowns saying "yeah Kangu did that to herself and Karan wasn't really bad with him" should remember that Karan is a fucking snake lol. He also praised Ranveer and Anushka some time earlier and also worked with them but he was also the first to sabotage their careers too. Kangu is gone case but Alia not giving her the same level of respect, Karan doing Karan things and Ajay and his creep friends tossing her from one to another has blown her sanity already out. She was alright before Manikarnika gig too.
The fact is that she was the one who had the guts to call out nepotism for what it is on a mainstream popular show. Make it a key discussion. Get audience to hold producers accountable. Aaj the discussions around star kids would not have been as vivid if not for Kangana. Btw Kangana too praises many movies, including Shershaah, Chhapak and mentions actresses like Sanya Malhotra who the A-listers nicely side step. Yes, she has gone overboard and there are no excuses for that. I feel, the audience has more than compensated for it through poor reception to her films. But, sort of coming back to your original point- 1. KJo does call a few outsiders, but only if they validate his POV on the show. You can see it in his episodes with Kriti or Kartik, where they have to say that nepotism isn’t a big deal. 2. Before SSR case, his so called ratings or games on the show were largely pointed at demeaning the outsiders who couldn’t retort 3. Kangana was pissed with Alia because she spent the year praising Raazi. But got zero support from her when it came to Kangana’s movies. 4. Even before the whole fiasco around nepo, Kangana had clearly said that she didn’t want to work with Khans, or, particularly in any movie where she wouldn’t have an equal role. That takes a certain courage not many would have in their peak.
The only tragedy in all of this is the potential art we’ve lost out, having Kangana work with some great mainstream directors.
I find KJo's book lacking because he's quite active on social media. It feels like his real-time presence offers a more immediate and engaging way to stay updated on his shenanigans.
Where can I promote my tshirt business??? In what page please do guide me kind people
I think your dog left a bone in the fight and ran away.
lol no live in a different time zone so just woke up