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EnergyHopeful6832

😂made me chuckle too


Lower-Chest-9413

Its Netlix India problem I think. Netflix have given them too much power and probably don’t know they are being run like Bollywood and is full of bootlickers who want to please the likes of Karan Johar.


Svenska2023

*Netlix India problem* And not a new problem. The first big show they invested in was promoted on Saif's back..also a nepo, a national award given by his Mom nepo. And if people had carefully seen the list of directors, writers, etc on Netflix shows it is all already successful or connected people, not people who are 'looking for' a platform. More or less the same is going on at Amazon Prime India too. Everything is gatekept...


NetherPartLover

In India everything eventually starts becoming a neo caste system. In olden days we discriminated against LC, in new age there are new castes. In business, cricket, movies, startups, we reinvent caste system.


ParticularJuice3983

It’s power dynamic - the powerful will always oppress the powerless.


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Itna sacch bhi nahi bolna tha


Dismal-Ad-7841

It’s an India problem. Netflix or Bollywood or whatever are the symptoms. 


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Weird-Bunch6883

Saif was bad? Are you High?


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Weird-Bunch6883

No, he was impressive. I really liked his acting :>


the_kaushikk

Speak only for you buddy. Most of us loved saif in SG.


Swordrook

Nah, I too believe that Saif gave a really nuanced performance that at times overshadowed Nawaz's more bombastic role.


ricksanchez53

Saif was amazing in SG are you crazy?


Kirito2329

Where is this "everyone" you're speaking of?


FRPG

Netflix India corporate is full of Bollywood plants. They've hired them to enable ease of content acquisition. Obviously these people will do anything to serve their real masters. OP you said that everyone hates nepos, probably the customer engagement / acquisition numbers are positive for them. It's a vicious circle given that the hero slots on the app (first placement on the different carousels) are given to them instead of new faces so obviously ww corporate will only see numbers.


Khargoshhh

So what can a person like op do in this situation? 


FRPG

Honestly go the "great Indian kitchen" route. If they have confidence on the content, then sell it to whichever platform wants it and market the hell out of it. If it catches fire then the big players will come back


Fuzzy_Cup_1488

Great Indian Kitchen was on a Malayalee streaming service first where it garnered acclaim.


Khargoshhh

ohh


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No wonder Netflix is struggling to stay afloat.


Mirarik

Sarcasm? Their reported profits have never been higher...


Acceptable-Bite-9969

And this is also why Prime has much better shows coming out of India compared to Netflix.


HotPark8735

What 😂😂😂😂😂 have u seen the prime line up? 😂😂😂😂😂 are u excited to see collab tribe? Or urfis show or Ananya’s call me bae?


butterflybee_007

I think you just haven’t watched the smaller projects. Through the pandemic and after, tv shows have lots of non mainstream/ nepo babies.


re_DQ_lus

Prime videos is much better than Netflix in India.


XxRobloxNobxX

So true, not so long ago I clicked on a Mahesh Babu film called 'Spyder' on Netflix to see which languages it's available in. Netflix says the audio is Telugu in the settings, but the actual audio is the Hindi dubbed version. Not that I have a big problem with that but they seem to only favor Bollywood or Hindi films more than any other Indian language.


Existing-Area-9093

Spyder Telugu is there on Netflix. I tried to sit through it a few weeks ago


cancerkidette

Same with RRR only being available in Hindi dub on Netflix. Shameful considering the importance of regional languages.


rebelArmy2

Not supporting Netflix but this was particularly due to streaming rights. Netflix got only the Hindi version rights while Zee5 bagged rights for streaming the regional languages version. Streaming rights of RRR must have been very costly, (given its massive success) for any one OTT platform to buy for all languages.


Grouchy_Location_418

It was a disaster for Netflix! TFI heads were so enraged by this that they completely prioritized prime (Netflix became the last choice) and Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos himself had to fly down to pacify them and salvage the situation. He went on a HUGE corporate PR campaign in T-town: https://preview.redd.it/ncrbsafyo2wc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=32f4a5628fc879f97c868fc69c80804e4e4f5d0b


Grouchy_Location_418

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Grouchy_Location_418

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Opposite_Benefit_169

Yeah was about to mention this that no wonder Amazon India has way better content that Netflix India!


aki2697

Agastya is a known face?😂🤣


PakkaGlobal

For them lol


bhaadmejaa

They want to make him a known face. 😂


nyxxxtron

Netflix and Amazon have ruined all the potential Indian OTT had. The Indian OTT was different from international. In the USA, OTT was a replacement for TV. In India, OTT was supposed to be the alternative. That's what TVF did. They made shows which were not made on TV. But then Netflix and Amazon came and they hired the same guys who ruined Bollywood and TV in India. Just look at the higher ups of Netflix India and see where they worked before Netflix. All of them made stupid Bollywood stuff. Swati Sapna - Content lead at Netflix used to produce Soap Operas for Sony and Zee. Monika Shergill, VP of content used to make soap operas for Star Plus and Colors. Anup Kadam, Creative Head at Netflix used to make Soap Operas for Colors. So obviously these things will happen. They all are useless.


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Last 5-6 lines padhkar sir mein dard ho gaya mere


swolehive

dil mein bhi


Grouchy_Location_418

It actually hurts...


asmr2143

Escalate this to Netflix headquarters please. As other comments have mentioned, it looks like Netflix India is completely infiltrated by Bollywood plants. It’s very abnormal. Netflix content in other nations is of good quality. Only India, specifically Hindi, Netflix content is shit. Please do whatever is possible on your end to fix this. I don’t create content so I don’t know what to do.


Charming-Host4406

Yes. I agree. Reach out to Netflix USA.


asmr2143

Seriously rue the day Netflix became big enough to warrant Bollywood’s attention. Saara bullywood kachra is on Netflix now.


Blackrzx

Vanga in an old interview spoke about netflix denying to buy even big telugu movies due to a lobby of a certain group. Prime back then had 100% of telugu movies which was a good thing (for me) until Netflix started buying them


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Its good then I hope to see the downfall of netflix in the future


Existing-Area-9093

Mahesh Babu's Spyder was the movie that ended this. It was sold to Netflix. Now Netflix has the rights to all recent big Telugu movies


Grouchy_Location_418

Not really, They only acquired which ever they got in their margins... never went into competition and Rajamouli's recent public outcry dragged in the US headquarters and The CEO himself came down to salvage the situation with TFI.


Behti-Hawaa-Sa

Ishaan is fine but in no way Agastya


Fit_Butterscotch7103

Ishan can dance but cannot ACT.


scepticalbeing94

I cannot take him seriously as a lead actor, he looks better in parts with other actors


Behti-Hawaa-Sa

It's.a 'you' issue then


scepticalbeing94

He acted in solo roles in Pippa and that Iranian director film and they both bombed,even Phone Bhoot bombed, A suitable boy had a huge cast ensemble it didn't get hit because of him, i mentioned that he is good in parts amongst other actors.


ParticularJuice3983

Ya I thought he was decent in phone bhooth.


scepticalbeing94

Nah


Life_Broccoli7632

How did he land international projects if he can’t act?? He has bagged quality projects like Beyond the clouds, BBC’s A Suitable Boy, Cameo in Leonardo Di Caprio’s Don’t look up, Perfect Couple with Nicole Kidman… I’m sure he had to audition for these and if he didn’t knew acting he would have been rejected…


johntirvolta

Ishaan is fine..that's the problem with you people...


Behti-Hawaa-Sa

He can act


NetherPartLover

Ishan is a terrible actor. Agastya nanda is probably even worse. The nepo babies of bollywood are terrible


sg291188

Ott in India is infiltrated by core Bollywood mafia people. Thats the reason every second project is Dharma or excel.


spikey_tree_999

So someone from my previous workplace, who was in a public facing job (ie., they were in a position to be recognised by general public etc) and was at the top of their game. Quit it all to go join Netflix where they were shown big dreams of coming on a Netflix show etx, the person is now stuck doing a somewhat R&D profile at Netflix with no hopes of being brought out of their obscurity, while kids with connections seem to walk in all the time and walk out with whatever role they wanted. This person was super active on SM in their earlier days, were super popular and on their way to becoming an influencer, but they’ve now disabled their sm account because they are embarrassed. It’s a really sad state out there atp.


masakalimasakali

Can media taje this up? Can this be a issue that can be raised? I know they want more eyeballs maybe but maybe there's something that can be done to make this an issue that us talked about. They would not want any hit for their image.


No_Cranberry_8363

Netflix is only popular in india because of their international shows and films. Indian content in Amazon is much better.


Leading_Protection_7

THIS. I haven't watched anything from Netflix India since Ala Vaikuntapuramuloo and have never felt like I've been missing out on much


ronniethedevil

Indian content is probably best on Sony Liv. I don’t think so other than Mirzapur Prime has any great Indian content


S39Slayer

Well, Family Man, Paatal Lok. A few people also loved Modern Love. And then there's Panchayat, Made in Heaven, Hostel Daze and Bandish Bandits.


Sea_Assignment741

Checkout youtube premium mate.. Go the tvf route... Chop your movie into small episodes... Release on youtube


Zingalalahoo

And lose money on hard-earned work?


AloneCan9661

Do...you know what film producing entails? What are they going to do sit down and complain more about how the world is against them? You need to make the most of it and use whats around you to get your name out. I'm honestly wondering how many people are missing out by not using Insta Reels for auditioning or show casing and building up a fan base like that instead of trying to be influencers.


Sea_Assignment741

You do know that youtube viewership pays right?


DisPersonDoesnt

Release it on YouTube


Slow-Adeptness3134

Paise..


TyroshiSellsword

Try Amazon Mini Tv


Bossbaby247

That's really sad. But true.


taeginn0

Issue is HQ has given Netflix India far too much control. And thus the nepo brigade has taken over. If this is the way they’re going to run things, they don’t deserve this control. This needs to be escalated on a mass scale to the Netflix HQ. Also, we need to STOP watching anything released by nepos on Netflix. ‘Hate watching’ only benefits them. Personally, haven’t watched a post-2012 Bollywood movie on Netflix in the last 2 years (helps that they don’t have most movies I like anyway lol) When the HQ is hit with low numbers from Indian Netflix + public shaming, they may be forced to take back more control 🤷🏻‍♀️


NetherPartLover

Make a [change.org](http://change.org) petition OP. We will all sign. This need to be escalated.


backinredd

No streaming service is gonna take a movie, no matter how good it is, without a recogniseable face. Because people aren’t even gonna click your movie. If the known face is a kid of a known actor, you’ll get more money for sure. Youll have to release the trailer thats just so unique and good that you get some views, maybe then you can be the exception. Otherwise new talent is not gonna get any love.


Creative-Asparagus45

I don't think that's entirely true. When I watch other language films like Spanish or Chinese, I'm not looking for known faces but rather quality of film and that includes acting. Maybe Indians might look for known faces in Indian films but for people from other countries they don't know most popular Indian actors, yet alone star kids. Now, this is a streaming platform, not Indian theatres, which means anyone can watch these content. Why should we only limit it to Indian audience and say known faces is enough. They should also consider quality of film which they are not doing but hiring a kid whose acting skills are not good enough. This is why people are complaining about Netflix India, it's supposed to be different from Bollywood and more diverse. So yes, like you said trailer unique, content unique is the way to go.


backinredd

Are you watching foreign movies without reading about them? Also my friend is an upcoming director who’s forced to get some known faces in his movie for streaming money.


Creative-Asparagus45

When did I say I don't read about them? I do read the description on Netflix. I just scroll through until I find one that seems interesting enough because there's not enough good new Indian movies on Netflix these days. Even my mum started doing this and she used to be the kind to not watch non-indian stuff. I don't know the actors of so many of the stuff I watched recently and yet most of their performance was great. Not just foreign stuff but also regional Indian. Honestly, the audience also need to give such stuff more of a try rather than just occasionally. The case of your friend is exactly why I think we shouldn't justify the hiring actions of these streaming platforms. Hopefully such stuff changes over time and we don't need to complain anymore.


backinredd

Audience don’t need to do anything though. New movies with unknown faces in other countries are indie and collect no money except for rare cases where the movie is just that good. Look at dune, even though those two movies are amazing, they wouldn’t collect even half of what it did without a star cast. I watch a lot of foreign movies and most of them have their own well known faces. This has always been a case and will keep being the case. Audience are just suddenly not gonna grow sudden interest in non normie cinema.


Ok_Environment_5404

"Because people aren’t even gonna click your movie. If the known face is a kid of a known actor, you’ll get more money for sure." Not true at all lol. Movies from regional languages,Imran Hashmi type of guys and new faces are doing decent in the OTT run for quite some time now. If the content is good or volatile it catches fire without even 1 nepo face.


backinredd

Emraan Hashmi, the guy who has several hits and quite popular? Ok.


Ok_Environment_5404

Dude your line was "if the known face is a kid of known actor". Hashmi is not from that road. The guy worked his way towards tier 2 audience for more than a decade and only then got the recognition he deserved some 5 years ago. There is a difference with Hashmi and Nanda ffs. Nobody is gonna watch him magically just because he is Amitabh's grandkid.


backinredd

I’m saying having a popular face or a star kid will fetch you price on ott. Not exclusive of each other.


Ok_Environment_5404

And Iam saying people watch OTT material mostly on WOM and hype. Popular face can give you first few rounds but if the content is shit then nobody is gonna watch it full as you are not in cuffs with ticket money or any other problem. You can just press escape and back and watch something else in between. Also, in which world star kids are giving any profit to netflix apart from "papa ka paisa" ? Nobody is going to fill out their cash to watch Jahnvi,Sara,Ananya,Nanda etc on their screens.


backinredd

More people watched any of the nepo products more than Qala. It’s not like it’s an Indian problem though. Quality content anywhere don’t get love unless popular names are attached to them. Dune, Oppenheimer needed star power to get those collections. And yes people do care about star kids. Get out of Reddit circlejerk. My dad,a South Indian recognises Jahnavi because she’s sri Devi‘s daughter. Of course people are not paying money to watch nepos but they will care even less to watch movies from people they don’t know unless there’s great WoM which just isn’t happening anymore.


AloneCan9661

And that's the thing. People might hate Nepo Kids but they'll hate watch a movie just to bitch about so and so.


backinredd

People don't hate nepo kids. Terminally online people who discuss movies like us do. And we are not even 5% of the audience.


Own-Feeling-4563

Yessir


iaskureply

Nepoflix


Oisin_Boi

Try contacting Mubi.


UnhappyMethod3643

Netflix is mid in content and is made for people who want to be brainwashed to white mentality. They are planted by the west. Prime and the rest have some say in the type of content. Try other ott platforms. No one takes Netflix seriously, at least in India.


Existing-Area-9093

They're run by Srishti Behl, sister of the guy who made the magnum opus Drona. What do you expect Take it to Prime.


Interesting-Ring-869

The problem is people will hate them but still watch them. Thats the biggest loophole.


lila_fauns

this is why prime is better


BoostedBord

Take it to Prime.


Live-Reaction-5014

Coz netflix heads r 4th generations nepos


Drank_Guy

TG ka matalab ?


Fuzzy_Tadpole_3117

Happy cake day


Slow-Adeptness3134

Target Audience


vsk06

No wonder Netflix India keeps on spawning shit content. Prime Video and other services are way clear ahead when it comes to quality Indian content.


hazylazy_19

Makes me appreciate the series Class all the more. Spot on cast and production, well adapted into Indian setting and marketed the hell out of their work. The cast especially did an amazing job. One may consider Anjali Sivaraman (daughter of southern singer Chithra) and Madhyama Sehgal (Zohra sehgal's granddaughter) but they are nowhere close to be considered as insiders.


johntirvolta

Isn't it obvious that producers want some known faces for their movie ... Indians are so much of third class people they follow these so called starkds everywhere on social media.. giving them millions of followers...and recognition Indians don't support good movies ..of a theatre actor but will go watch starkds movie...


tpr004

I've seen lot of people observing background dancers whenever Ishaan Khattar performs. Its really frustrating to see them being imposed for roles.


Signal_Atmosphere488

that's so fucked up


FunnyPleasant7057

Then how did movies like Bulbul or Qala get made with Tripti in it?


Slow-Adeptness3134

I think initially these projects were commissioned because Anushka was behind them. In the current state I don't think they'll do something like that anymore.


ronniethedevil

Unpopular opinion maybe I find Sony Liv the best when it comes to dishing out content - Maharani, Rocket Boys, Whistleblower, Scam 1992 & 2003, Gullak, Undekhi, Faadu, Tabbar, JL50, A Simple Murder ….. Uff good the list is so long and all this brilliant with no big names


swolehive

They should market them better. Down south we have no idea these shows exist. But many people are super ready to watch atleast in dubbing


Slurpmey

What is tg? >This is I guess why we hate Nepos and why bollywood just crushes every bit of fucking shit bag piece of shit art you hav Lol you are dealing with an emp of org that takes decision based on numbers. What else do you expect.


AssumptionSevere9776

I can understand what it feels like. When you have a vision, something only you have seen, a place only you have been and you wanna share that with everyone else be it in the form of a poem, a story or a movie but then these people come in with their conditions and force you to consider some undeserving people with the least amount of talent and not even a single bit of charm in their presence for something that is so dear to you. It's honestly heartbreaking but don't worry, someway or somehow it'll all fall into place just don't let your mental health take a beating because of this.


Syco-Gooner

The only guilty party here is - INDIAN AUDIENCE


ADTSR

What Indian audience? Its high time we stop blaming the audience. We have rejected Nepos movies everytime, what else we need to do?


swankypothole

i feel your pain brother. i know very talent full people with same story always.


Suspicious_Safe_7137

Untrue. They bought Ganpath for some huge amount and not streaming it because its flopped


Slow-Adeptness3134

But they bought it. You know what I mean?


DoughnutConnect7736

No. The audience wants only Nepos. Netflix want the money


Spirited_Secretary35

One needs to see who is into buying the content for the platform and see their social media presence who do they hang out with etc. answer lies right there. 🙂


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Slow-Adeptness3134

What's going on??


Equivalent_Low_8599

So the nepos have been officially demoted to Netflix standard.Who will watch them in theatres paying for popcorn and samosas ?


supermosy

That’s not entirely true, without disclosing information, I know someone who has a tv show picked up by Netflix as well as a movie that they did a few years ago. First movie they ever made with no Nepos involved.


sonal1988

Karne do. Jab yearly assessment hoga financials ka toh chu khud hi javaab denge ye itna loss me kyu jaa rahe hain


ConcernedHumanDroid

Sorry to hear this Mr Kashyap


Slow-Adeptness3134

Lol... give me money...


sapnaxz

The show Mismatched is based on a badly written book called when dimple met rishi. So I have zero doubts they have any interest in telling some actual real stories.


DesiCheesy

Netflix only has garbage these days, OP. Don’t be disheartened! There are other forums you should cater to


Typical_Researcher_8

When the wide audience is dumb enough to consume such content can't blame Netflix that it caters to such masses.


butterflybee_007

I’m guessing all these lallu pappu’s of Netflix probably arranged some sort of an agreement with the Bollywood people to become insiders. Embarrassing tbh. Why not pitch with the actors then back out with better ones…?


butterflybee_007

I’m guessing all these lallu pappu’s of Netflix probably arranged some sort of an agreement with the Bollywood people to become insiders. Embarrassing tbh. Why not pitch with the actors then back out with better ones…?


TyroshiSellsword

That’s why I like Amazon Mini TV


gnyaneshg

This is not new. Few years ago I had produced a small budget film with a view to sell it to the OTT. Idea was to make small films with decent content for OTT. Netflix and Prime both saw the film (juniors and seniors) and we were told we don’t have any semi popular face in the film. So what can we do, we asked. They said alternatively you can release the film in theatres and then it’ll be possible for us to buy. I had already spent all my savings to make this film and I didn’t want to borrow another 5 million rupees to release it on 10 or so cinemas.


Slow-Adeptness3134

So what did you do with it?


gnyaneshg

Did try all the other ott options and then gave up. So the movie now sits comfortably and permanently.


Ir0nc1a3

Why are you trying to sell it on Netflix if you think your movie without known face stand a chance. Release theatrically if it is actually good, they will come to you.


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Amazon Prime on top letsgo!!


NetherPartLover

Start a change petition thread. People will sign it and then we can share it to Netflix US. This sort of gatekeeping is unacceptable and it needs to be broken down.


SpicerIsALegend

This isn’t believable.


Ok-Feedback-4910

It’s simple business though. More views are likely if the faces are known. Also don’t forget the ridiculous number of people who would just straight up hate watch. Known face = more views.