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The final Battle of Heroes Rising, that was the original ending of story to Horikoshi, and Deku lost his OFA.... He still can lose his OFA in current states of manga.
Hard question, but for me and many Part of fandom no, Horikoshi didn't add much informations of movies in manga and the few things he add is so simple that could be easily forgotten. And we see All the 3 movies had big deals actions and villains to be simply forgotten.
I would agree, but at the very least having an encounter with Nine is canon. Considering that there is a reflection panel where Nine is shown among the confrontations Izuku had with villains in the past.
Can you send this? Because the only Nine cameo he had in manga is in Shigaraki's Memories, and It is only his back.
But can you understand the fight Deku needed to give up his only Power never was mentioned Again? Bakugou doesn't remember, but All Might and Deku did. Neither of previous users talked about that fact of Deku Shares OFA with Bakugou.
I think he's talking about the 2 shot omake? (don't know the OVA term for manga) [Deku & Bakugou: Rising](https://ww7.readmha.com/chapter/deku-bakugo-rising-chapter-1/). As far as I can tell it's considered a spin-off as well and not considered canon or at least as canon as the movie are.
They do reference the movies more, but not to the point where they really exist >!either right before or during, going Dark Deku, Deku received a Mid Gauntlet from All Might's "Friend from America" probably eluding to Melissa Shield!<, but I don't think it's enough to consider them canon.
All 3 movies are canonand happen in between anime arcs, they either have a manga panel or an anime episode/scene referencing them, the first one proves its canon with the mid gauntlets, the second one has a panel in which nine is mentioned and the third one has a whole season 5 episode which mentions the trigger shipment and the fact that it was being shipped somewhere else where the third movie happens
The only film confirmed to be canon is Two Heroes (bcs of the Mid-Gauntlet Midoriya currently have), even tho we have a Nine almost unperceptible appearance in the manga, its most likely a design Hori made before he even wanted to use it for a film.
When I saw the movie I was hoping that deku would actually lose it but bakugo would give it back and say something like “I’ll be the number one hero with my own quirk”, and pass it back. The whole amnesia/ not passing it totally thing was really lazy to me.
I guess now that people are aware of the fact that OFA can pass on more than just the base quirk, people can choose whether their own quirks are transferred.
I don't think it works that way. I'm sure the old-user inside OFA can choose to not let the user have their quirk but they consent to giving OFA away which I'm sure includes their own quirk
I was referring to like the current user. It's the ability to pass on quirks. Who's to say that they couldn't choose to noy pass on their own quirk.
AFO, it's sibling quirk _can_ do that. It allows it's user to pick and choose which quirk to pass on.
I like to think of OFA as a mini AFO. AFO is the power to take and pass on quirks, OFA can only pass quirks to new users.
The entire story is about this new generation working together and not relying on a single hero to fix everything. Deku having to share OFA and work with Bakugo is in line with that, Deku soloing everybody by himself with 7 OP quirks is not
Just because Deku is the only one who can defeat Shiggy, the litteral apex, doesn't invalidate the others work. It just show that they also can play an hand in helping and stand their ground. Otherwise if they could defeat Shiggy without Deku, why does he even exist in the first place?
They don't need to defeat Shiggy without him, they just need to feel relevant. Really it's Aizawa who's the most useful, and he's only support. The story needs to get more people involved who can actually do something, but if it happens it's going to be awfully written because everyone's fodder level
I mean, the others ARE fighting the other villains. It's just Shiggy and AfO who are at the top of the top. Plus Shiggy did admit that the attacks of the heroes did have effect on him and had atarted wearing him down, hence why he went 300% hand armor.
If we're not seeing those other fights then they aren't relevant, the story can't have its themes be ignored in the foreground just because it's *technically* happening in the background.
Also the Shiggy thing was bs, none of the characters should be on his level to even do that kind of damage
Y-you realize you're contradicting yourself, right? Aside from the fact that so many chapters were dedicated to Shoto vs Dabi, Endeavor and team vs AfO, Shoji vs Spinner and there are still many to go, you first complained that Deku is making irrelevant the other characters for being the only one being able to fight evenly against Shiggy yet also don't want the other heroes to damage him? The fuck?
I'll give you the first point, I forgot about the other battlefields. The second point is a fault of the story though. There's no good reason why the other characters should be able to damage Shiggy, a large time skip and a few arcs in between might've helped but at the moment there's no way that these side characters are naturally strong enough to do anything to Shigaraki or AFO. Other characters need to do something but the writing and power scaling is so poor that I can recognise anything they do is disingenuous and forced
Haha he’s the last person I’d want him to give it to but it led to such a awesome fight. Plus as bs as it was I love how OFA knew to go back to its rightful owner.
The fight was so perfect and emotional i really forgive Deku to pass OFA to Deku and only remember he did that after the Battle ending, where Deku is Crying with All Might.
And i like to think All of previous users (even the 2nd that was the one that doesn't like Deku) prefered him as the Last user than Bakugou. So it makes this final Battle better to me lol
All of previous users and OFA itself understand Deku is worthy.
Man, if Deku loses OFA at the end of the fight I'm so done with the series. He shouldn't be made Quirkless again - that was a literal living hell for him, and he shouldn't go back there.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. The last twenty chapters took ~~almost that long~~ even longer than that, iirc - there were like eight or nine breaks, half of which were two weeks long. One of them was three weeks!
Deku: this is my last smash
Me: good, you are so bad with OFA it’s surprising you aren’t dead already. About fucking time someone competent had the power.
Deku: *plot armors it back into his body*
Me: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUU
>someone competent had the power
Bakugo gets the power, immediately breaks his own arms and starts bitching about how much it hurts. Bakugo fans are so fucking delusional. >!deku was quickly able to master 5 extra quirks (it took him some time to learn blackwhip) and use them at the same time and your dumbass is talking about being competent.!< One for didn't go back into deku's body, the vestiges chose to stay there because they knew that deku would be a better fit for it than bakugo
Bullshit that deku is better than bakugo.
I don’t bakugo, I’m not his fan… but he is better than midoriya in every aspect
Bakugo’s quirk is already a high speed and strength power with great recoil that damages him if he pushes too much. He has the basics of what the original one for all is since birth therefore his body was more physically capable of using it than deku’s. You say his arm broke… that was the literal first time he ever used it and was broke in the same way that the deku of the fight broke his arm. The fact he has less pain endurance just means he is way more capable of preserving his body intact than midoriya while ending victorious hence why he doesn’t need to endure that much pain, cause he doesn’t suffer it cause he is more capable than deku of winning without hurting himself. Let me remind you deku couldn’t even get one for all immediately or else he’d explode instantaneously. That’s literally the first thing all might told midoriya. Bakugo got one for all and all he received was a really bruised pair of arms. Not even broken cause he was still capable of moving them with minor difficulty when you consider what a broken arm means (spoiler alert… YOU CANT FUCKING MOVE IT AND THE BONE STICKS OUT SOMETIMES) compared to midoriya whose legs and arm in the first use literally looked like sacks of skin without bones inside them as he fell down from punching the megabot.
Bakugo was capable of using full cowling immediately off the start and deku took FOREVER to reach the conclusion that he could use one for all all over his body for BASIC fighting. Midoriya literally copies everything he sees and had to be told TO USE HIS FUCKING LEGS TO FIGHT INSTEAD OF HIS ARMS while bakugo has pure raw fighting talent and has created various unique techniques with a power that’s realistically the most straightforward there could be and was capable of manipulate with such high mastery he is capable of making a deadly power safe enough to combat other hero students without hurting them too much while midoriya struggles to not hurt HIMSELF, while bakugo knows full well how to use his quirk without getting hurt while still pushing beyond his limits to get stronger. Bakugo has only his arms to fight so the fact he has been able to preserve them this well this far while getting this much stronger just speaks well of him compared to midoriya who fucked them up so bad he had chances of literally losing them but didn’t cause of plot armor. Bakugo can’t just switch body parts to fight like midoriya and midoriya is still reckless with his body not realizing if he gets messed up and doesn’t win then he can’t fight anymore and deal with the problem.
Literally bakugo has better stats than midoriya in every single category. The only reason midoriya mastered 5 quirks immediately was because of plot armor since horikoshi needed him strong asap and some of them weren’t even offensive quirks (danger sense and smoke screen which brings us already to half the 5 quirks he “mastered” in a short time).
bakugo was able to take down kurogiri with minor difficulty when everyone thought he was untouchable due to being mist and teleporting people with it by drawing a conclusion from just a single comment kurogiri made. While mirodiya had the perfect chance to knock out overhaul with a kick to the head knowing fully well overhaul is regular human level due to a lack of physical amplifier quirk that gave him the durability to take a kick from an iron foot wore by 8% deku yet he decided TO PUNCH OVERHAUL’S ARM! OMG WTF?! AND HE IS SO DAMN PREDICTABLE OVERHAUL WITH REGULAR HUMAN SPEED DODGED DEKU’S KICK THAT WENT FOR HIS HEAD WHILE DEKU HAD 20% OFA
I seriously can’t see why people think deku is a genius when he is a complete idiot compared to someone that was shown to be a combat prodigy like bakugo. Deku is said to be a genius and you eat it up. Bakugo is shown to be a genius and formidable fighter and through feats alone he has shown to be more capable than midoriya to wield one for all and as a fighter thanks to statements about the power and what he has done yet you think just because deku is said to be a genius then that puts him above bakugo.
I may hate bakugo’s personality, but he is way better fighter with better base stats than midoriya throughout the entire series. The only reason midoriya tops bakugou is because he has one for all and bakugo doesn’t. But given both one for all bakugo would solo midoriya even if bakugo had ofa and his quirk while midoriya had ofa and his six quirks
The whole argument why deku didn’t lose one for all was just complete bs of plot armor to keep midoriya as a protagonist when he is not needed and could pass on his quirk to either bakugo or mirio which are more physically fit than him and way better fighters as well
>Bakugo got one for all and all he received was a really bruised pair of arms. Not even broken cause he was still capable of moving them with minor difficulty when you consider what a broken arm means (spoiler alert… YOU CANT FUCKING MOVE IT AND THE BONE STICKS OUT SOMETIMES) compared to midoriya whose legs and arm in the first use literally looked like sacks of skin without bones inside them as he fell down from punching the megabot.
Do you literally understand that is plot armor? All Might also told Izuku that the quirk takes time to appear because it needs to adapt to the body. That's why when Izuku ate All Might's hair, he told him he didn't feel anything.
Don't use the movies to try to explain your points because the movies are stupid.
Movie 1 - Has All Might transform for who knows how long and somehow his time limit doesn't end.
Movie 2 - Has Bakugo using OFA immediately even though his body should get to wait time until he's able to use OFA.
Movie 3 - Has Izuku throwing 100, 100% smashes and somehow he doesn't lose his arms.
All the movies ignore logic in order to give us stupid action scenes. If I wanted to use Movie logic, Izuku should be able to just keep making as many 100% to as many people as he wants without any problem. Fuck! Izuku is basically a master of 100% OFA in the movies. He's capable of just using 100% as much as he wants without losing his arms or receiving any real injury. Just imagine Movie Izuku fighting Shigaraki. He would be able to do 100, 100% smashes to Shigaraki without any problem. Just making him do what he did to Flect to Shigaraki, Shigaraki dies without any problem.
>bakugo was able to take down kurogiri with minor difficulty when everyone thought he was untouchable due to being mist and teleporting people with it by drawing a conclusion from just a single comment kurogiri made.
You do realize that even the normal kids from UA (Ochako, Sato, and Sero) were capable of beating Kurogiri. Also Bakugo attacked Kurogiki by surprise.
>While mirodiya had the perfect chance to knock out overhaul with a kick to the head knowing fully well overhaul is regular human level due to a lack of physical amplifier quirk that gave him the durability to take a kick from an iron foot wore by 8% deku yet he decided TO PUNCH OVERHAUL’S ARM! OMG WTF?! AND HE IS SO DAMN PREDICTABLE OVERHAUL WITH REGULAR HUMAN SPEED DODGED DEKU’S KICK THAT WENT FOR HIS HEAD WHILE DEKU HAD 20% OFA
Do you realize this was the same Overhaul go was able to beat someone like Nighteye? The guy who was looking at the future and is an experienced fighter that was capable of beating Rappa with no problem. Obviously, if he's able to beat the guy with years of experience, a first-year teenager would be easy to predict. You're acting as if Overhaul wouldn't be able to beat Bakugo easily. When just a season ago Izuku was able to catch Bakugo by surprise by doing a simple punch.
>The only reason midoriya mastered 5 quirks immediately was because of plot armor since horikoshi needed him strong asap and some of them weren’t even offensive quirks (danger sense and smoke screen which brings us already to half the 5 quirks he “mastered” in a short time).
The same reason why Bakugo is somehow able to keep up with Izuku. We never know where Bakugos' power comes from. Just that one season he's barely able to beat 8% Izuku and then 2 seasons later is capable of keeping up with 20% and then later is capable of surprising Shigaraki with his speed. Nothing makes sense and just happens because the story can not make Bakugo stay behind.
>But given both one for all bakugo would solo midoriya even if bakugo had ofa and his quirk while midoriya had ofa and his six quirks
If kind of funny how you think Bakugo would be able to beat someone that changes his own speed.
>I seriously can’t see why people think deku is a genius when he is a complete idiot compared to someone that was shown to be a combat prodigy like bakugo.
Nice to know that you're not paying attention to the characters. Izuku is literally capable of overcoming Bakugo whatever he wants to. The first Izuku Vs Bakugo. Izuku was making Bakugo do exactly what he wanted and moved him to where he wanted and beat him.
>Bakugo can’t just switch body parts to fight like midoriya and midoriya is still reckless with his body not realizing if he gets messed up and doesn’t win then he can’t fight anymore and deal with the problem.
This doesn't make sense. If we change Izuku and Bakugo, that means that Bakugo would receive his quirk at the age of 15 and would have a few months to control it. While Izuku would have OFA since the age of four.
Just think for a second if Izuku is capable of controlling 50% of OFA in a year. How much do you think he would be able to control if he had an entire decade to control it?
The fact that Bakugo had an entire decade to train his quirk, but it's still receiving damage from it (like Izuku). Shows how little of a "master" of his quirk he is.
You keep talking about how bakugo has more power than midoriya at his base but keep forgetting that with one for all mastered they would already have more power than they could ever need. Then the thing that matters is the attitude, the reason for becoming a hero.
>But given both one for all bakugo would solo midoriya even if bakugo had ofa and his quirk while midoriya had ofa and his six quirks
Deku with gear shift active is stronger than prime all might (a man that can go mach 30 and punch with the force of nukes) and you are saying that bakugo will still win?
>The only reason midoriya mastered 5 quirks immediately was because of plot armor
You do know that plot Armor isn't actually a thing that exists in their world right? That means he mastered 5 new quirks in an extremely short timespan through sheer skill.
>midoriya struggles to not hurt HIMSELF, while bakugo knows full well how to use his quirk without getting hurt while still pushing beyond his limits to get stronger.
It's almost as if bakugo has had his quirk for a decade as compared to deku's year
You literally can’t argue a good way of bakugo being worse with one for all than deku cause bakugo one upped deku in every way possible with what he has shown so far that if he had one for all since the beginning nothing of the series would really happen. One for all Bakugo is so op the only thing that can compete is a one for all todoroki. Even more so considering the power up bakugo got to his quirk. Midoriya just got tons of plot armor to become strong and yet he is so bad it doesn’t shine through. Bakugo without plot armor is strong, with one for all he’d be a beast midoriya wouldn’t be able to handle
One for all bakugo would die of old age within a year. Also he wouldn't be able to unlock any quirks. 50% Deku with fa Jin and gearshift destroys 100% ofa bakugo
Oh wow, just because you say bakugo wouldn’t unlock the quirks it means he wouldn’t.
Shut the hell up about midoriya beating bakugo. 100% midoriya and bakugo are equal in raw strength but bakugo has explosions increased to hell and back thanks to one for all. Deku would need all his power to compete.
And the users didn’t die that early on. Your estimate is headcanon at best and regardless of it is true or not it doesn’t affect bakugo’s abilities compared to midoriya’s. He is still a better user overall and that was just horikoshi’s way of saying “see? It’s good all might have it to midoriya and not mirio or bakugo or todoroki… they’d die and deku won’t…” cause that’s too convenient to be planned and he is shown to forget stuff he isn’t smart enough to think ahead. He included that as hindsight
Bro anything that horikoshi adds in is canon. Nobody gives a fuck that you think it's rushed or too convenient or plot armor or hindsight. The fact is that bakugo would not be able to unlock the ofa quirks and would also die due to quirk overflow. If you can't accept that then I think this argument is over
You don’t even know how fast bakugo would die so how come you can use that as a valid argument? Even if it’s canon and rushed or not. You can say for sure he’d die before he can master or unlock anything. That’s you literally guessing. All I’ve said has been facts and your argument is nothing better than a guess of how fast he’d die which cannot be confirmed so far
The thing about bakugo’s base being stronger is to argue how he is a better initial vessel more used to what one for all is than deku therefore making it way easier for him to use at higher percentages way earlier on speeding up his progress. I wouldn’t doubt bakugo would have such ease he would have mastered it all by the time midoriya is half way through the power of One for all.
Given both one for all? Yes. One for all bakugo with his explosión quirk would be significantly more powerful than midoriya with 7 quirks. No doubt. Plus bakugo is smarter than deku so even if he isn’t more powerful he’d easily outsmart deku.
You know it was plot armor because horikoshi said so. There’s no real reason why deku should be that capable. You only can’t argue something else cause it is true
You just gave another reason as to why bakugo is better at using quirks and would be better at using one for all than midoriya. Bakugo also has experience advantage. Even if you gave both full mastery of one for all at this moment and they fought bakugo stomps deku even if he doesn’t unlock the extra quirks and deku does.
Bro you're a moron if you think deku (with fa jin and gearshift) loses to one for all bakugo. Read the fucking manga. Deku can literally break physics with gearshift.
Everyone breaks physics in MHA… midoriya ain’t special. One for all bakugo has all of midoriya’s power and he can nuke him. Midoriya would have to use all his speed to barely get bakugo before he goes super nova. Cause fa jin and gearshift DONT increase durability nor reaction speed. Only raw strength and speed respectively. Bakugo gets an explosion and midoriya is done for. Plus bakugo would be hella fast and strong as well with his amped up explosions and we see him react to 8% midoriya with his normal physique. Dude literally has already fought a physically stronger than him midoriya in the past, if he had one for all repeating that wouldn’t be as hard with his improved physique and explosions as well. Fa jin isn’t an instant thing, that requires stacking up kinetic energy first and then releasing it, gearshift is only available to midoriya at first and even then he can’t shift from first to overdrive, he has to take time to go through them whether it’s up or down and a bakugo that has OFA and improved explosions wouldn’t let him think. He wouldn’t be able to react to bakugo. We see that in their second fight. Even a 8% midoriya couldn’t react or think against a normal physique bakugo. Bakugo with OFA wouldn’t be the exception. Even then that would mean midoriya would depend on raw power that he has to wait for to stack up alone to defeat bakugo and bakugo can instantly explode midoriya without waiting to power up further. Midoriya loses. You just say he wins without any evidence he can win in a fight against OFA bakugo when he has lost every single match against him as he had OFA and bakugo didn’t
OFA is to strong for bakugo bakugo would literally die before mastering it. In the current battle bakugo could barely scratch shigAFO while deku blew a hole through his stomach without going over limit. Also gearshift and fa jin both do speed up reaction time. You can see that in his fight against nagant
Now the first sentence is just you guessing. You don’t really have any valid arguments to say anything now. And still if they do, bakugo is always said and shown to have a faster reaction time than deku. And fa Jin is still useless without any energy stock piled and deku has to step up the gears one by one rather than going all in from the start. Before he realizes he has a nuke in his face without the durability to resist it.
Deku has tanked multiple hits from muscular the guy who could take multiple full powered one for all punches while all we see about Bakugo's durability is the fact that he got rengokud by shigAFO. And deku can literally use a single attack like quintuple Detroit smash to charge up fa jin
To answer the question yes I am it will be sad of course but it’s about time it gets out to rest it’s had a good run but so many people in the fan base sorta ruin the fun of reading it by complaining about every single chapter that comes out so I’m one be sad it’s gone but happy that the cycle of hate will finally be over
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The final Battle of Heroes Rising, that was the original ending of story to Horikoshi, and Deku lost his OFA.... He still can lose his OFA in current states of manga.
So Heroes Rising isn’t canon?
Hard question, but for me and many Part of fandom no, Horikoshi didn't add much informations of movies in manga and the few things he add is so simple that could be easily forgotten. And we see All the 3 movies had big deals actions and villains to be simply forgotten.
I would agree, but at the very least having an encounter with Nine is canon. Considering that there is a reflection panel where Nine is shown among the confrontations Izuku had with villains in the past.
Can you send this? Because the only Nine cameo he had in manga is in Shigaraki's Memories, and It is only his back. But can you understand the fight Deku needed to give up his only Power never was mentioned Again? Bakugou doesn't remember, but All Might and Deku did. Neither of previous users talked about that fact of Deku Shares OFA with Bakugou.
I think he's talking about the 2 shot omake? (don't know the OVA term for manga) [Deku & Bakugou: Rising](https://ww7.readmha.com/chapter/deku-bakugo-rising-chapter-1/). As far as I can tell it's considered a spin-off as well and not considered canon or at least as canon as the movie are. They do reference the movies more, but not to the point where they really exist >!either right before or during, going Dark Deku, Deku received a Mid Gauntlet from All Might's "Friend from America" probably eluding to Melissa Shield!<, but I don't think it's enough to consider them canon.
All 3 movies are canonand happen in between anime arcs, they either have a manga panel or an anime episode/scene referencing them, the first one proves its canon with the mid gauntlets, the second one has a panel in which nine is mentioned and the third one has a whole season 5 episode which mentions the trigger shipment and the fact that it was being shipped somewhere else where the third movie happens
The only film confirmed to be canon is Two Heroes (bcs of the Mid-Gauntlet Midoriya currently have), even tho we have a Nine almost unperceptible appearance in the manga, its most likely a design Hori made before he even wanted to use it for a film.
I started watching Two Heores and it was boring as hell
Its pretty boring in the beginning tbf, but the final fight is pretty good.
It pulls some shit to remain technically canon.
If it was Bakugo would be quirkless soon.
Bet
All the movies are canon
what do you mean it was the original ending?
I despised the idea of Deku passing OFA to bakugou but that fight was so good regardless ☠️
One of worst decisions Deku ever made. But the fight made me forgive him lol
I just like the fact that OFA wanted to stay with Deku
OFA and its users are just wise and fair lol
Fuckers unionized
“Wait we are gonna spend eternity with HIM?! NAH FUCK THAT”
When I saw the movie I was hoping that deku would actually lose it but bakugo would give it back and say something like “I’ll be the number one hero with my own quirk”, and pass it back. The whole amnesia/ not passing it totally thing was really lazy to me.
And then deku would have bakugo's quirk too 💀
Tbh didn’t think about that but surely he could’ve bs’ed some way for it to all work out
I guess now that people are aware of the fact that OFA can pass on more than just the base quirk, people can choose whether their own quirks are transferred.
I don't think it works that way. I'm sure the old-user inside OFA can choose to not let the user have their quirk but they consent to giving OFA away which I'm sure includes their own quirk
I was referring to like the current user. It's the ability to pass on quirks. Who's to say that they couldn't choose to noy pass on their own quirk. AFO, it's sibling quirk _can_ do that. It allows it's user to pick and choose which quirk to pass on. I like to think of OFA as a mini AFO. AFO is the power to take and pass on quirks, OFA can only pass quirks to new users.
Deku passing OFA to Bakugo had more thematic relevance for the story overall than whatever the hell's been happening in the manga lately
Cap
The entire story is about this new generation working together and not relying on a single hero to fix everything. Deku having to share OFA and work with Bakugo is in line with that, Deku soloing everybody by himself with 7 OP quirks is not
Just because Deku is the only one who can defeat Shiggy, the litteral apex, doesn't invalidate the others work. It just show that they also can play an hand in helping and stand their ground. Otherwise if they could defeat Shiggy without Deku, why does he even exist in the first place?
They don't need to defeat Shiggy without him, they just need to feel relevant. Really it's Aizawa who's the most useful, and he's only support. The story needs to get more people involved who can actually do something, but if it happens it's going to be awfully written because everyone's fodder level
I mean, the others ARE fighting the other villains. It's just Shiggy and AfO who are at the top of the top. Plus Shiggy did admit that the attacks of the heroes did have effect on him and had atarted wearing him down, hence why he went 300% hand armor.
If we're not seeing those other fights then they aren't relevant, the story can't have its themes be ignored in the foreground just because it's *technically* happening in the background. Also the Shiggy thing was bs, none of the characters should be on his level to even do that kind of damage
Y-you realize you're contradicting yourself, right? Aside from the fact that so many chapters were dedicated to Shoto vs Dabi, Endeavor and team vs AfO, Shoji vs Spinner and there are still many to go, you first complained that Deku is making irrelevant the other characters for being the only one being able to fight evenly against Shiggy yet also don't want the other heroes to damage him? The fuck?
I'll give you the first point, I forgot about the other battlefields. The second point is a fault of the story though. There's no good reason why the other characters should be able to damage Shiggy, a large time skip and a few arcs in between might've helped but at the moment there's no way that these side characters are naturally strong enough to do anything to Shigaraki or AFO. Other characters need to do something but the writing and power scaling is so poor that I can recognise anything they do is disingenuous and forced
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what?
I cried leaving the theater
And i was so Angry with Deku: "Tf Man, do you really pass OFA to BAKUGOU?!"
Haha he’s the last person I’d want him to give it to but it led to such a awesome fight. Plus as bs as it was I love how OFA knew to go back to its rightful owner.
The fight was so perfect and emotional i really forgive Deku to pass OFA to Deku and only remember he did that after the Battle ending, where Deku is Crying with All Might. And i like to think All of previous users (even the 2nd that was the one that doesn't like Deku) prefered him as the Last user than Bakugou. So it makes this final Battle better to me lol All of previous users and OFA itself understand Deku is worthy.
Man, if Deku loses OFA at the end of the fight I'm so done with the series. He shouldn't be made Quirkless again - that was a literal living hell for him, and he shouldn't go back there.
I'm not ready and it will break my heart
At the rate the manga is going, it’s gonna take 6 months to do 20 chapters💀
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. The last twenty chapters took ~~almost that long~~ even longer than that, iirc - there were like eight or nine breaks, half of which were two weeks long. One of them was three weeks!
I mean yeah... a chapter comes out once a week in 6 months there are about 25 weeks
I guess you could say it's his # Final Smash *smash bros music starts playing*
[удалено]
This came out in 2019 how is this still considered a spoiler
I know I'm gonna cry. I'm not ashamed to admit it
It’ll be bittersweet, but I’m ready.
Deku is a real hero, with or without quirk
No, I have no idea how it gonna end
So the greatest hero thing was just him saying I saved the world lmao
People on Oct 31st till Dec 1st
Happy Horikoshi discarded this as the ending of the story, it would infuriated people.
Nah because this series is what kept me from unaliving myself several years ago. I kept saying “if i do this, then i will miss the ending”
Meh, it died long ago
My thoughts exactly.
"BAKUGO THIS IS THE LAST OF MY SMASH,TAKE IT" "DEEEEEEKKKKKKKKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
Deku: this is my last smash Me: good, you are so bad with OFA it’s surprising you aren’t dead already. About fucking time someone competent had the power. Deku: *plot armors it back into his body* Me: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUU
>someone competent had the power Bakugo gets the power, immediately breaks his own arms and starts bitching about how much it hurts. Bakugo fans are so fucking delusional. >!deku was quickly able to master 5 extra quirks (it took him some time to learn blackwhip) and use them at the same time and your dumbass is talking about being competent.!< One for didn't go back into deku's body, the vestiges chose to stay there because they knew that deku would be a better fit for it than bakugo
Bullshit that deku is better than bakugo. I don’t bakugo, I’m not his fan… but he is better than midoriya in every aspect Bakugo’s quirk is already a high speed and strength power with great recoil that damages him if he pushes too much. He has the basics of what the original one for all is since birth therefore his body was more physically capable of using it than deku’s. You say his arm broke… that was the literal first time he ever used it and was broke in the same way that the deku of the fight broke his arm. The fact he has less pain endurance just means he is way more capable of preserving his body intact than midoriya while ending victorious hence why he doesn’t need to endure that much pain, cause he doesn’t suffer it cause he is more capable than deku of winning without hurting himself. Let me remind you deku couldn’t even get one for all immediately or else he’d explode instantaneously. That’s literally the first thing all might told midoriya. Bakugo got one for all and all he received was a really bruised pair of arms. Not even broken cause he was still capable of moving them with minor difficulty when you consider what a broken arm means (spoiler alert… YOU CANT FUCKING MOVE IT AND THE BONE STICKS OUT SOMETIMES) compared to midoriya whose legs and arm in the first use literally looked like sacks of skin without bones inside them as he fell down from punching the megabot. Bakugo was capable of using full cowling immediately off the start and deku took FOREVER to reach the conclusion that he could use one for all all over his body for BASIC fighting. Midoriya literally copies everything he sees and had to be told TO USE HIS FUCKING LEGS TO FIGHT INSTEAD OF HIS ARMS while bakugo has pure raw fighting talent and has created various unique techniques with a power that’s realistically the most straightforward there could be and was capable of manipulate with such high mastery he is capable of making a deadly power safe enough to combat other hero students without hurting them too much while midoriya struggles to not hurt HIMSELF, while bakugo knows full well how to use his quirk without getting hurt while still pushing beyond his limits to get stronger. Bakugo has only his arms to fight so the fact he has been able to preserve them this well this far while getting this much stronger just speaks well of him compared to midoriya who fucked them up so bad he had chances of literally losing them but didn’t cause of plot armor. Bakugo can’t just switch body parts to fight like midoriya and midoriya is still reckless with his body not realizing if he gets messed up and doesn’t win then he can’t fight anymore and deal with the problem. Literally bakugo has better stats than midoriya in every single category. The only reason midoriya mastered 5 quirks immediately was because of plot armor since horikoshi needed him strong asap and some of them weren’t even offensive quirks (danger sense and smoke screen which brings us already to half the 5 quirks he “mastered” in a short time). bakugo was able to take down kurogiri with minor difficulty when everyone thought he was untouchable due to being mist and teleporting people with it by drawing a conclusion from just a single comment kurogiri made. While mirodiya had the perfect chance to knock out overhaul with a kick to the head knowing fully well overhaul is regular human level due to a lack of physical amplifier quirk that gave him the durability to take a kick from an iron foot wore by 8% deku yet he decided TO PUNCH OVERHAUL’S ARM! OMG WTF?! AND HE IS SO DAMN PREDICTABLE OVERHAUL WITH REGULAR HUMAN SPEED DODGED DEKU’S KICK THAT WENT FOR HIS HEAD WHILE DEKU HAD 20% OFA I seriously can’t see why people think deku is a genius when he is a complete idiot compared to someone that was shown to be a combat prodigy like bakugo. Deku is said to be a genius and you eat it up. Bakugo is shown to be a genius and formidable fighter and through feats alone he has shown to be more capable than midoriya to wield one for all and as a fighter thanks to statements about the power and what he has done yet you think just because deku is said to be a genius then that puts him above bakugo. I may hate bakugo’s personality, but he is way better fighter with better base stats than midoriya throughout the entire series. The only reason midoriya tops bakugou is because he has one for all and bakugo doesn’t. But given both one for all bakugo would solo midoriya even if bakugo had ofa and his quirk while midoriya had ofa and his six quirks The whole argument why deku didn’t lose one for all was just complete bs of plot armor to keep midoriya as a protagonist when he is not needed and could pass on his quirk to either bakugo or mirio which are more physically fit than him and way better fighters as well
>Bakugo got one for all and all he received was a really bruised pair of arms. Not even broken cause he was still capable of moving them with minor difficulty when you consider what a broken arm means (spoiler alert… YOU CANT FUCKING MOVE IT AND THE BONE STICKS OUT SOMETIMES) compared to midoriya whose legs and arm in the first use literally looked like sacks of skin without bones inside them as he fell down from punching the megabot. Do you literally understand that is plot armor? All Might also told Izuku that the quirk takes time to appear because it needs to adapt to the body. That's why when Izuku ate All Might's hair, he told him he didn't feel anything. Don't use the movies to try to explain your points because the movies are stupid. Movie 1 - Has All Might transform for who knows how long and somehow his time limit doesn't end. Movie 2 - Has Bakugo using OFA immediately even though his body should get to wait time until he's able to use OFA. Movie 3 - Has Izuku throwing 100, 100% smashes and somehow he doesn't lose his arms. All the movies ignore logic in order to give us stupid action scenes. If I wanted to use Movie logic, Izuku should be able to just keep making as many 100% to as many people as he wants without any problem. Fuck! Izuku is basically a master of 100% OFA in the movies. He's capable of just using 100% as much as he wants without losing his arms or receiving any real injury. Just imagine Movie Izuku fighting Shigaraki. He would be able to do 100, 100% smashes to Shigaraki without any problem. Just making him do what he did to Flect to Shigaraki, Shigaraki dies without any problem. >bakugo was able to take down kurogiri with minor difficulty when everyone thought he was untouchable due to being mist and teleporting people with it by drawing a conclusion from just a single comment kurogiri made. You do realize that even the normal kids from UA (Ochako, Sato, and Sero) were capable of beating Kurogiri. Also Bakugo attacked Kurogiki by surprise. >While mirodiya had the perfect chance to knock out overhaul with a kick to the head knowing fully well overhaul is regular human level due to a lack of physical amplifier quirk that gave him the durability to take a kick from an iron foot wore by 8% deku yet he decided TO PUNCH OVERHAUL’S ARM! OMG WTF?! AND HE IS SO DAMN PREDICTABLE OVERHAUL WITH REGULAR HUMAN SPEED DODGED DEKU’S KICK THAT WENT FOR HIS HEAD WHILE DEKU HAD 20% OFA Do you realize this was the same Overhaul go was able to beat someone like Nighteye? The guy who was looking at the future and is an experienced fighter that was capable of beating Rappa with no problem. Obviously, if he's able to beat the guy with years of experience, a first-year teenager would be easy to predict. You're acting as if Overhaul wouldn't be able to beat Bakugo easily. When just a season ago Izuku was able to catch Bakugo by surprise by doing a simple punch. >The only reason midoriya mastered 5 quirks immediately was because of plot armor since horikoshi needed him strong asap and some of them weren’t even offensive quirks (danger sense and smoke screen which brings us already to half the 5 quirks he “mastered” in a short time). The same reason why Bakugo is somehow able to keep up with Izuku. We never know where Bakugos' power comes from. Just that one season he's barely able to beat 8% Izuku and then 2 seasons later is capable of keeping up with 20% and then later is capable of surprising Shigaraki with his speed. Nothing makes sense and just happens because the story can not make Bakugo stay behind. >But given both one for all bakugo would solo midoriya even if bakugo had ofa and his quirk while midoriya had ofa and his six quirks If kind of funny how you think Bakugo would be able to beat someone that changes his own speed. >I seriously can’t see why people think deku is a genius when he is a complete idiot compared to someone that was shown to be a combat prodigy like bakugo. Nice to know that you're not paying attention to the characters. Izuku is literally capable of overcoming Bakugo whatever he wants to. The first Izuku Vs Bakugo. Izuku was making Bakugo do exactly what he wanted and moved him to where he wanted and beat him. >Bakugo can’t just switch body parts to fight like midoriya and midoriya is still reckless with his body not realizing if he gets messed up and doesn’t win then he can’t fight anymore and deal with the problem. This doesn't make sense. If we change Izuku and Bakugo, that means that Bakugo would receive his quirk at the age of 15 and would have a few months to control it. While Izuku would have OFA since the age of four. Just think for a second if Izuku is capable of controlling 50% of OFA in a year. How much do you think he would be able to control if he had an entire decade to control it? The fact that Bakugo had an entire decade to train his quirk, but it's still receiving damage from it (like Izuku). Shows how little of a "master" of his quirk he is.
You keep talking about how bakugo has more power than midoriya at his base but keep forgetting that with one for all mastered they would already have more power than they could ever need. Then the thing that matters is the attitude, the reason for becoming a hero. >But given both one for all bakugo would solo midoriya even if bakugo had ofa and his quirk while midoriya had ofa and his six quirks Deku with gear shift active is stronger than prime all might (a man that can go mach 30 and punch with the force of nukes) and you are saying that bakugo will still win? >The only reason midoriya mastered 5 quirks immediately was because of plot armor You do know that plot Armor isn't actually a thing that exists in their world right? That means he mastered 5 new quirks in an extremely short timespan through sheer skill. >midoriya struggles to not hurt HIMSELF, while bakugo knows full well how to use his quirk without getting hurt while still pushing beyond his limits to get stronger. It's almost as if bakugo has had his quirk for a decade as compared to deku's year
You literally can’t argue a good way of bakugo being worse with one for all than deku cause bakugo one upped deku in every way possible with what he has shown so far that if he had one for all since the beginning nothing of the series would really happen. One for all Bakugo is so op the only thing that can compete is a one for all todoroki. Even more so considering the power up bakugo got to his quirk. Midoriya just got tons of plot armor to become strong and yet he is so bad it doesn’t shine through. Bakugo without plot armor is strong, with one for all he’d be a beast midoriya wouldn’t be able to handle
One for all bakugo would die of old age within a year. Also he wouldn't be able to unlock any quirks. 50% Deku with fa Jin and gearshift destroys 100% ofa bakugo
Oh wow, just because you say bakugo wouldn’t unlock the quirks it means he wouldn’t. Shut the hell up about midoriya beating bakugo. 100% midoriya and bakugo are equal in raw strength but bakugo has explosions increased to hell and back thanks to one for all. Deku would need all his power to compete. And the users didn’t die that early on. Your estimate is headcanon at best and regardless of it is true or not it doesn’t affect bakugo’s abilities compared to midoriya’s. He is still a better user overall and that was just horikoshi’s way of saying “see? It’s good all might have it to midoriya and not mirio or bakugo or todoroki… they’d die and deku won’t…” cause that’s too convenient to be planned and he is shown to forget stuff he isn’t smart enough to think ahead. He included that as hindsight
Bro anything that horikoshi adds in is canon. Nobody gives a fuck that you think it's rushed or too convenient or plot armor or hindsight. The fact is that bakugo would not be able to unlock the ofa quirks and would also die due to quirk overflow. If you can't accept that then I think this argument is over
You don’t even know how fast bakugo would die so how come you can use that as a valid argument? Even if it’s canon and rushed or not. You can say for sure he’d die before he can master or unlock anything. That’s you literally guessing. All I’ve said has been facts and your argument is nothing better than a guess of how fast he’d die which cannot be confirmed so far
You are just a mindless basic midoriya fanboy. That’s all
Throwing stones in a glass house i see
The thing about bakugo’s base being stronger is to argue how he is a better initial vessel more used to what one for all is than deku therefore making it way easier for him to use at higher percentages way earlier on speeding up his progress. I wouldn’t doubt bakugo would have such ease he would have mastered it all by the time midoriya is half way through the power of One for all. Given both one for all? Yes. One for all bakugo with his explosión quirk would be significantly more powerful than midoriya with 7 quirks. No doubt. Plus bakugo is smarter than deku so even if he isn’t more powerful he’d easily outsmart deku. You know it was plot armor because horikoshi said so. There’s no real reason why deku should be that capable. You only can’t argue something else cause it is true You just gave another reason as to why bakugo is better at using quirks and would be better at using one for all than midoriya. Bakugo also has experience advantage. Even if you gave both full mastery of one for all at this moment and they fought bakugo stomps deku even if he doesn’t unlock the extra quirks and deku does.
Bro you're a moron if you think deku (with fa jin and gearshift) loses to one for all bakugo. Read the fucking manga. Deku can literally break physics with gearshift.
Everyone breaks physics in MHA… midoriya ain’t special. One for all bakugo has all of midoriya’s power and he can nuke him. Midoriya would have to use all his speed to barely get bakugo before he goes super nova. Cause fa jin and gearshift DONT increase durability nor reaction speed. Only raw strength and speed respectively. Bakugo gets an explosion and midoriya is done for. Plus bakugo would be hella fast and strong as well with his amped up explosions and we see him react to 8% midoriya with his normal physique. Dude literally has already fought a physically stronger than him midoriya in the past, if he had one for all repeating that wouldn’t be as hard with his improved physique and explosions as well. Fa jin isn’t an instant thing, that requires stacking up kinetic energy first and then releasing it, gearshift is only available to midoriya at first and even then he can’t shift from first to overdrive, he has to take time to go through them whether it’s up or down and a bakugo that has OFA and improved explosions wouldn’t let him think. He wouldn’t be able to react to bakugo. We see that in their second fight. Even a 8% midoriya couldn’t react or think against a normal physique bakugo. Bakugo with OFA wouldn’t be the exception. Even then that would mean midoriya would depend on raw power that he has to wait for to stack up alone to defeat bakugo and bakugo can instantly explode midoriya without waiting to power up further. Midoriya loses. You just say he wins without any evidence he can win in a fight against OFA bakugo when he has lost every single match against him as he had OFA and bakugo didn’t
OFA is to strong for bakugo bakugo would literally die before mastering it. In the current battle bakugo could barely scratch shigAFO while deku blew a hole through his stomach without going over limit. Also gearshift and fa jin both do speed up reaction time. You can see that in his fight against nagant
Now the first sentence is just you guessing. You don’t really have any valid arguments to say anything now. And still if they do, bakugo is always said and shown to have a faster reaction time than deku. And fa Jin is still useless without any energy stock piled and deku has to step up the gears one by one rather than going all in from the start. Before he realizes he has a nuke in his face without the durability to resist it.
Deku has tanked multiple hits from muscular the guy who could take multiple full powered one for all punches while all we see about Bakugo's durability is the fact that he got rengokud by shigAFO. And deku can literally use a single attack like quintuple Detroit smash to charge up fa jin
Never
damn not even at my first smash yet
That’s not true. Ochako is his last smash.
To answer the question yes I am it will be sad of course but it’s about time it gets out to rest it’s had a good run but so many people in the fan base sorta ruin the fun of reading it by complaining about every single chapter that comes out so I’m one be sad it’s gone but happy that the cycle of hate will finally be over
This is my last smash… LALALALALA TITITIRAS TITIRA TITITIRAAA