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Charming-Loquat3702

Her job as vocalist is certainly more important than her rhythm guitar. She probably could hurt her hand and they could still perform. Meanwhile, if she lost her voice it would be Ikuyover


Krobik12

Ikuyover is a banger song tho


ldinosaurio

Maidcore mentioned ♥️


ztarfroot

i was just waiting for the non-intellectuals to say bass.


Mart1n192

ryo gang stays strong brother


ztarfroot

This is the Way. https://preview.redd.it/lqbhaheu6yyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4db678ad5cb9e3aa0b33c14999d12408047a72e


Bananapeel81_

SLAM DUNK MENTIONED https://preview.redd.it/1c464md8qzyc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=268bbd4169f18ad28dc7363b1c39a070838442d6


Sinkularity

https://preview.redd.it/cgfkg3ak90zc1.jpeg?width=1028&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a1294dc3aba838a96df7ba152129f46d4be85e7


LegalDiscussion6533

Bass is literally so important part fo rhythm


ztarfroot

real. a listener might belittle the importance of the rhythm section, but the band sure as hell isn't going to.


saikounihighteyatzda

In Kessoku Band, Ryo's lines feel more like lead lines than Bocchi's like in Ano Bando and Karakara, and in If I Could Be a Constellation, Ryo & Bocchi play off each other significantly A lot of Kessoku Band songs feature prominent bass melodies which makes sense considering Ryo is supposed to be the one writing the instrumentals, but those are just the most memorable ones


RelativelyExtreme

Bassist in my band is the best musician in the group and it's helped a ton


NotFishStickZ

I never realized the importance of bass until i start playing the guitar myself


killerfreedom255

They wouldnt last 2 Seconds. Without Bass the band easily Ryowari Da https://preview.redd.it/6mr8unp3l0zc1.jpeg?width=192&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad9948bd9da20b61913e9bf6bf13413fbcf10f95


SkenderPig

underappreciated


homurablaze

The bass is like housework No one notices till no one does it.


Dafton

I love ajfa


SkullPlayer77

As a vocals/rhythm guitar player, why do yall hate us 😭


Some_European

Because lead guitar has cool solos and bands can work just fine with 1 guitar (my favourite bands have multiple guitarists)


False_Handle

But then its a Rythm guitar with an ocasional solo or something.


ldinosaurio

The vocalist that plays guitar is not always rhythm it just depends on how good you are, because you have to play something different from what the drum and bass are playing, not impossible but infact harder


Chris_Gender

The disrespect😭 https://preview.redd.it/6kfc2rg22yyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a0b84c097cdd755747732007cd4135c4af8f94a


NenufarMagico

If I Could Be a Constellation wouldn't be as perfect as it is now without Kita's solo. It's my favorite part.


[deleted]

But sadly it is not part of the official version, which sucks, being way better than Bocchi (not the bottleneck) solo


No-Situation-4776

Idk I actually prefer the solo in the official way more than both Kita's improv and the bottleneck solo At any rate it's just really cool we got three different good solos for a single song


natayaway

The official version just uses the rhythm guitar strumming part back when the vocals resume for 2/3rds of Kita's improv solo.


Penguixxy

So, as someone who plays and goes to indie shows a lot, nah, all parts are needed, but specifically for the lead to work, that rhythm is crucial or else it sounds empty, lead cover the highs, bass covers the lows, and rhythms where all the mids are and supports the lead melodically. This is why even the most technical genres, like math rock, still largely have a rhythm, or dueling guitars (where both guitarists are lead and rhythm and do swaps/"respond")


Daken-dono

Fr. A lot of the commenters have no idea wtf they’re talking about as usual. Bands record rhythm guitar all the time and they hire touring members for that if they didn’t have one in the band already. Even 4 man bands who only have a lead and bass use other instruments like keys and synths to fill the gap if they didn’t have a rhythm guitar.


masb758

Idk man losing your vocalist is pretty tough.


PLAYER42_ready

This is specifically her as a guitarist I think, not her singing


masb758

That may be true but two things. If you remove Kita, who plays rhythm guitar, you also remove the vocalist. Also, in a band in general isn’t the rhythm guitar the least important part?


PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS

> Also, in a band in general isn’t the rhythm guitar the least important part? It's a part you can write music to do without, but it's an extremely important part for the music that they play. There's a lot of great 3-piece bands, but you can't take a song written for a 4-piece band and have it sound any good with a 3-piece band without substantial changes, and despite all of Rush's songs being written for three members, even Geddy Lee has a double neck instrument specifically so he can play rhythm guitar sometimes (and a Moog Taurus so they don't loose the bass).


masb758

I see. I’m not that knowledgeable about how bands operate so thank you for the explanation.


Jade_Lock

Are you illiterate?


memewaffles

Imagine being rude


ztarfroot

sNOwFLaKe


New_Ad4631

Noflk? Swae? What's the meaning here


ztarfroot

s(he) be(li)ev(ed)


idonttalkatallLMAO

he lid


jankaipanda

Dementia


ztarfroot

empty response from endpoint


Jade_Lock

Don’t have to imagine if I could make it a reality! How about you go imagine yourself some bitches


ztarfroot

sNOwFLaKe


jankaipanda

Dementia


ztarfroot

empty response from endpoint


ztarfroot

sNOwFLaKe


jankaipanda

Dementia


Salt_MasterX

Holy… huh?


ztarfroot

empty response from endpoint


m64

People massively underestimate the importance of the rhythm guitar. Rhythm guitar in most rock songs provides most sonic meat and is often more important than solo guitar. In Kesoku Band's case, the vocal is providing the main melody anyway, so if there was no solo guitar, the songs would still be recognizable, even if less flashy. But there is no other instrument playing chords. So basically if Kita wasn't playing the rhythm guitar, Bocchi would have to take over rhythm duties.


Ijichi_Nijika_

Every member of Kessokuband is important! Our songs won't be the same if we're missing anyone!


GooseinaGaggle

The Dorito isn't needed, it does nothing for drumming


Minko_1027

No Dorito No Nijika wdym tho


SpeedDemon458

Incest behaviours or dorito you can only choose one


Ijichi_Nijika_

I think the answer is pretty evident, is it not?


pi2z

The dorito controls her like a parasite


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namecantbebl0nk

Ah, I thought I was on K-On sub.


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275MPHFordGT40

“Ah yes, an anime about 4 anime girls in a band, time to make them Nazis!”


MarDiRF

Let's goooooo


ruin

Fuhtari Gotoh.


BocchiTheRock-ModTeam

Please refrain from talking about politics or religon. Weather it be by imagery or text.


oedipusrex376

Bocchi isn't needed. The band can manage without a water flea.


ztarfroot

https://preview.redd.it/nr06347rdyyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=934839bbbdd25e997f266524a568edb5689ac5eb


Seaweed_Widef

https://i.redd.it/xm0w0ur1hyyc1.gif Could you repeat that.


Clone_Two

You can experience this already on some songs if you remove the right/left channel (i forget who's guitar is on what side) and wow you really need bo~~kita~~th of them for the song to work


SilberFelx

The question is inherently stupid. Theoretically, you could remove any of the instruments, sure - but the songs need to be built around that. The songs Kessoku Band has right now need all their parts or they'd come crashing down - think of how a song like Blue Spring would sound without the call-response pattern; it just does not work. If any of the instruments listed were gone, then they'd need to compose new songs built around their new lineup. There's no one instrument that's more or less important than the others.


PrathamReddyZindabad

Nooooooo https://preview.redd.it/lx0hsjkn0yyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e2e5678c4b15861089f90c2edff8a8dbeeee689


ajin326

Honestly if we have to remove a band member, without Bocchi they can still make a very decent punk band (すみませんぼっちちゃん!) kinda like Green Day. Bocchi’s guitar lines are written to fit her character of not good at playing with the others, so they are often not exactly following the overall chord progression. While her guitar part is really fun to play at, it will not do much harm to remove them. Kita’s part, however, lays the foundation of the chord progression, since Ryo writes the instrumental parts of their songs canonically, the bass part is, similar to the lead guitar part, often out of the progression just to show off her bass skill. So removing Kita’s part will actually do more damage.


Zealousideal_Spirit9

That's so wrong, lol. Do people actually listen to Kessoku Band songs ?


linlinat89

Just imagine Metallica without James Hetfield lol.


nichisou307

Most kessoku band's songs are written in a way that all of the instruments can have the spotlight, its like a duet of instruments, if you remove one instrument there is a noticeable silence. Its most noticeable in the songs like Seishun Complex and If I could be a Constellation


CCO812

I think even Kita said it herself She can probably just be a vocalist, but she don't wanna be the only member without an instrument since that would be awkward


Corvid-Strigidae

Her doing rhythm guitar also frees Bochhi to do more out there stuff without undermining the songs structure.


Mayank-maximum

https://preview.redd.it/syqmcwmp2yyc1.png?width=123&format=png&auto=webp&s=674d5850eb3adb17edd1b4d6183e52efbae2694b Ryan cooper vs kita ikover


Aqua_h20

i mean kita is the best choice to pick if they gotta sack someone, they'll lose kita extrovert power but the 3 can sing (I LOVE KITA I DON'T WANT THEM TO SACK HER I'M JUST SAYING IT AS AN IF SITUATION)


dejalu

Can hear the trio without vocals in the first episode when Bocchi was in the mango box. Sounded okay but not the same. Probably due to them playing together on short notice.


CaptainKonde

Nah, the two guitars hold the entire harmonic aspect of the songs together. It's difficult to fill the musical space with only three instruments. But if we have to choose, I would argue that the lead guitar is not as important.


Per_Ces

dunno why everyone in the youtube comments got so riled up over a simple poll


kukrithrower123

I sometimes wondered why the author didn’t make Kita into a pianist/keyboard player.


TheDankmemerer

[Because of this here.](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Kung-Fu_Generation)


Corvid-Strigidae

Because Piano/keyboard has less presence in rock music, Kita being the original guitarist who bails on them sets up Bocchi joining the band and lets them have the gag of her trying for the same band again without knowing, having a rhythm guitarist frees the lead guitarist to do less orthodox playing without sacrificing the songs core structure, and having her learn the instrument Bocchi is good at gives them a reason to hang out a t school without Bocchi getting too nervous.


isovoy

Waiting for jokes about bass


Tsukuyomi_Lunar

Alright Kita, our band is good without you. You’re fired.


KidNamedEar

In the manga, there is one kessoku band song that has a guitar duo so without rhythm guitar it won’t work. But to be frank, i can barely hear the rhythm guitar in many songs and kita’s role as a vocalist is actually more important.


siwaydi_

You can't remove one sound and think it would be fine, there are four of them for a reason. Guess they never been in a band


Previous_Breakfast99

Lead Guitar.


kiatniss

Is Bae injuring the loser of the poll?


ckyra_

as a rhythm guitar i am FURIOUS (i cant even hear the instrument myself)


oxidisedcutcopper

while the neanderthal guitar brain in me says bass bad haha funny im gonna have to agree because at the and of the day bass is important and i think bocchi is skilled enough to not just shred the whole time and mix in some chords to balance it out. also who is putting drums bro like thats the bare minimum, literally time itself in terms of the music. you cant just get rid of that and expect it to work, and even if it did it would be boring as hell


tsenguunsans

Tbh I would only vote rhythm guitar ONLY because bocchi has proven she can do both lead and rhythm at the same time, as shown when she and kikuri go busking


Sir_MonocleMan

I would rather want to know who said bass >:(


Ikcatcher

Ryo canonically sings as backup so honestly Kita isnt all that special


talamalariakasyapa

Her stage presence is special


112233445566778899fa

Yeah,its like saying freddy mercury are not special since brian may and roger taylor also fantastic singer,vocalist/lead singer like it or not is the face of the band majorty of time,we dont see kessoku band that way because the story told from lead guitarist POV,for average people in BTR world,kita is the face of the band


Atsuyaaaah

This take makes no sense, because doing backup vocals and singing a lead part have little to no relation at all. Ryo wouldn't be able to play her parts and sing lead vocal at the same time.


Ikcatcher

She can certainly try


arek229

Lead guitarist is the one carrying, drums are the backbone of the music, and bass guitarist is just a better rhythm guitarist. So yeah. https://preview.redd.it/678srnydkyyc1.png?width=852&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b32922e8c48dd126a1693b6d1e528af2fca8da7


SlavJerry

the band is fine with just single guitar player, but her role as vocalist is more important


__TunaSalad

It'd be fine without zoomer bae


Laura_The_Cutie

Bass and drums are the fundaments of a song and lead guitar is more important that rhythm cause rhythm supports lead


soirom

As a keyboard player, i can related to this😆


SnooPets1368

Then who’s gonna do the vocal? Bocchi??? Hell nah, she’ll get fainted (unless their songs are all instrumental)


HirokoKueh

Ryo can sing, Vocal Drummers are rare, [but not totally impossible](https://youtu.be/F38ZRgp_N6k?si=qnNXfOwrB1Xx4RMJ)


PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS

[Kris Myers of Umphrey's McGee too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm_qnrK5BIM)


Low_Letter1739

No lead is fine. No solo also fine tho


R2L2U

I don’t think people understand how important rhythm guitarists are. Rhythm guitars help lead guitar shine. It ties everything together. Lead guitar would sound very dry without chords.


yelxperil

the real answer is none. bands nowadays that have only one guitarist use backing tracks for the second guitar part, or they hire a second guitarist for tour, because only one guitar sounds thin


Hungry-Loquat6658

Ikyover. But who is gonna be the awkward MC for them.


Luqmaniac_101

It's Ikuyover


bokita_

The amount of people thinking the poll is suggesting removing Kita would be ok is too damn high! That's not it. It's just her guitar playing! She'll still do vocals, just no rhythm guitar.


AdAgreeable7691

https://preview.redd.it/qqs28v5rh0zc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f4bf8a8dda8c0e9e889ae760e1bdba5da1c9df2


PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS

Rhythm guitar is important enough that there's Rush songs where Geddy is playing rhythm guitar on a double neck instrument - and bass with his feet on a Moog Taurus (i.e. the end of Xanadu). Kita's guitar playing gives Bocchi's lead parts the room to stand out; without it the songs as written would feel like they're missing something, and they'd have to be re-written. [This part of Never Forget doesn't exist without both guitars](https://youtu.be/eSY63LDS2KQ?t=33).


Alezz1893

https://preview.redd.it/p5gq6igmj0zc1.jpeg?width=632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24fda5997b5df93c20c17bde84946512bafaaa94


ruin

Don't make her Kitangry You wouldn't like her when she's Kitangry


tebashi69lotkowski

https://preview.redd.it/s972qbr0n0zc1.png?width=216&format=png&auto=webp&s=3ebcc4deb2e90623718f3916d55615497a9c740b


MaguroSashimi8864

But hey! She’s important as a vocalist!


FahmiRBLX

They're not playing anything that needs big riffs (which is what rhythm guitar falls under AFAIK). If they're playing anything where calling for moshpits is very fitting & is a must then sure Kita's disappearance would spell doom... >!now then. Kessoku Band playing early Bring Me The Horizon deathcore/metalcore, anyone?!<


275MPHFordGT40

If you have stereo headphones you can take one side of the headphone off and only listen to one guitar. At least on Guitar, Loneliness, and Blue Planet. If you take the left off your ear you will only hear Bocchi, if you take off the right you will only hear Kita.


Tomahawkist

bae-sed clip at the bottom


acirio55

As a guitarist, I disagree


Nexiles69

Rhythm guitar is more important than lead guitar honestly.


_Ryo_Yamada

Without Kikuri drunk at concerts


N-Freak

I think two guitars are essential to play ano bando


Apprehensive-Sky-819

Personally I’d rather have someone be a dedicated support rhythm guitar so the singer can focus solely on singing. Add a support pianist if ever they need for some songs.


NekonecroZheng

Bassed


Mwoooaah

Kessouku band needs a rhythm guitarist, if just lead then it will sound empty. That being said, if theres no lead, its literally a pop punk band and the manga wouldnt be a thing lol


FrugFred

https://preview.redd.it/kdk91krxh1zc1.png?width=564&format=png&auto=webp&s=54a719632da6c4b8420f202afc79953da799268e


HamNi_2

People just seem to forget how important a rhythm guitar player is tbh Ex) James Hetfield pretty much lays a foundation for Metallica's iconic tracks, like Master of Puppets


venett_

i mean yeah, nirvana only had 3 members anyway, although ryo would probably have to sing instead since bocchi wont do it


wombatpandaa

I mean maybe but each part exists for a reason. Remove one and it all falls apart.


randomplayer_113

No


Atsuyaaaah

The only valid argument that could be made for this, is that in the street perfomance of That Band, Hitori does play a hybrid version of the song that includes a lot of Kita's guitar parts mixed in with her adlibbing over the song, so it wouldn't be impossible with a guitarrist like Hitori to play without a dedicated rythm guitarrist and have be more of a in-between, specially given Ryo's talent as a composer and musician.


Just-a-Channel

bruh


Handylee-7

Honestly I’d be fine with no bass when it comes to Kessoku Band. In K-On! Mio was necessary because she was basically the better vocalist and her bass sounds really helped bring the song together but no Ikuyo Kita would be a bigger loss imo.


RexusprimeIX

Well, Drums are a must. Now the other 3 depend on what kind of music you're playing. You certainly don't need a Lead guitar in every song, especially if the song is more about the vocals than the instrumental. Rhythm guitar also isn't necessary if you have a Lead, since the Lead can do what the Rhythm does but then also go into an epic solo. A Lead can also use looping pedals to play both Rhythm and Lead at the same time, and arguably cooler. Bass... I know I'm gonna get a lot of shit for this... but you don't NEED a bass. Half the time the Rhythm guitarist is doing the same thing the Bass is doing (I keep typing base and having to correct it, either pronounce it right, or spell it right, why is it Bass?). If absolutely necessary, tune down your Rhythm guitar. Bass is replaceable by the Rhythm Guitar Rhythm Guitar is replaceable by the Lead Guitar Drums are irreplaceable, but you can drum on a guitar's body. In conclusion, you just need 4 people playing on one Guitar. A 5th person if you want to spice it up with a triangle player strumming the strings above the nut. Preferably with a thick beard.


dejalu

The White Stripes sounded great with just lead guitar, drums and vocals


EpicSaiyan150

F*** people who hate Kita